Yeah that's great. Bin Laden said 10 years ago he wanted to peel away Americas allies, bankrupt America, destroy the value of the dollar, get oil to 100 dollars a barrel and divide the American people.

With the help of Bush and Cheney he has pretty much succeeded so far. In the 5 hour documentary on Frontline last week "Bush's War" you see the actual players describe in detail how special forces and CIA plans for the destruction of that filthy son of a bitch Bin Laden were passed over because Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld thought that they were the smartest guys with the plan and to hell with what career intelligence officers said.

If America puts McCain in the Whitehouse to continue on the Bush path we are never going to get America back and destroy these bastards.

Read the correct plan : " Marching Toward Hell: America and Islam After Iraq by Michael Scheuer"

If you don't know who Scheuer is you know nothing of this topic.

I also have a copy available here:

http://nomayo.mu.nu/fitna_downladable_here

That's brilliant lava: five paragraphs of your usual personal venting, five paragraphs that are wrong, sometimes several times within the same sentence.

I suggest YOU read this:

http://www.amazon.com/Cheney-Americas-Powerful-Controversial-President/dp/0060723467/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206795857&sr=8-1

If you don't know who Steven Hayes is you nothing of this topic or its key players.

But that's expecting too much from a clueless liberal that runs with his herd...straight off the national security cliff, every four years, like clockwork.

lava

After you become informed on the who and what of Cheney , swallow this medicine:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060746734/ref=sib_rdr_dp/002-2763605-5074400?%5Fencoding=UTF8&no=283155&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER&st=books

Michael Scheuer is not interested in real national security interests, he is interested in his anti semitic self. He's a coward for publishing under the name anonymous before he retired.. Even Jamie Gorelick had this to say after she offered up the obligatory faint praise:

But much of what he had to say was not borne out by our investigation.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/Intelligence-11111?search=1

You may hear the splat all over the country. That splat will be Lava's brain matter (or in his case maybe BS) hitting the wall when BDS is complete and he sticks a shotgun in his ear. Liberals have been doing that since the days of LBJ, shooting themselves in the back of the head, 6 times. Takes a lot of shots to hit a BB rolling around in a watermellon.

Oh yes, the Frontline expose about Bush's
war. I watched it, Bush did have a couple
of cameos in it
As to Bin Laden, how about the head on a
silver platter deal President Clinton
turned down. 9/11 would have just been another
day if he had accepted it.

"others proclaim Islam as a religion of peace and believe there is just no way a Muslim would get violent."

Who says that?

I've been wondering about this film. Thanks for the post.

Not hard to see why Islam and liberals are tweaked out of sorts. Obviously cherry-picked video, and I can also see where US imperialism drove them to these extremes. Especially liked the mutilating of women and the "Freedom go to Hell" sign (sarc off).

Scheuer delivered the information to Clinton and he failed to act. If anyone had watched the Frontline documentary you would see about 15 CIA and 15 State Department and 15 former Bush administration people back up every word of my statement.

It's so typical of a "conservative" when faced with facts to shoot the messenger. What are you guys like 11?

It's so typical of a "conservative" when faced with facts to shoot the messenger. What are you guys like 11?

No lava, the point is what you said said in comment #1:

If you don't know who Scheuer is you know nothing of this topic.

We know who he is. He has little credibility. You said so yourself....you would see about 15 CIA and 15 State Department and 15 former Bush administration people back up every word of my statement. According to you, lava, 45 people ( a bi partisan group, according to you) ignored Scheuer. That's not shooting the messenger. That looks like a lot of people avoiding a known quantity....Scheuer.

You adjectives for the terrorist type is a bit lacking, Jim. I'd throw in a few others like, "self-hating, misogynist, flat-earther, Down's Syndrome bomber, paranoid Arab, etc type."

Just trying to get this right.