I agree that Bill and Hill are "not motivated by lofty principles, but pure, base self-interest. That they will say and do anything, abandon any principle, jettison any person, repudiate any action, that furthers their ends -- and those ends are acquiring and keeping political power." On the other hand, I don't see them as essentially any different from BHO, a ward-heeling Chicago politician, who toes the same liberal line and courts the same liberal voting blocks (unions, teachers, minorities, pro-abortion women, etc.), as nearly every other Democrat politician in recent memory. Just because, as Joe Biden said, he's "clean" (meaning, I think, good looking), articulate, and is able to spin platitudes ("the audacity of hope") into gold, doesn't make him any more honest or otherwise superior to the Hill-Billy duo.

Criticism of China isn't an awakening against Communism.

Actually China is on the outs with some Leftists for embracing capitalism. They are also on the outs with other Liberals because Bush is pro-China relations.

What freedom of choice do we have left when corporations are leading the rest of us to the meat grinder? Your right wing only serve one purpose, and that is not a reasonable or ethic way of distribution of wealthness,the purpose of maintaining themselves richer than when they came to this world and to do that they already bought enough to keep brainwashing voters.

" . . and that is not a reasonable or ethic way of distribution of wealthness.

Brought to you by your local Communist party - the party without a clue but who are more than willing to steal to get one!

JP said:

"Your right wing only serve one purpose, and that is not a reasonable or ethic way of distribution of wealthness,the purpose of maintaining themselves richer than when they came to this world and to do that they already bought enough to keep brainwashing voters."

Us "right-wingers" are so often characterized as either cold-hearted capitalists, or knuckle-dragging fundamenlists. It saddens me that so many on the liberal side of the aisle don't seem to understand that conservativism is a highly developed and profoundly thoughtful ideology that champions individual liberty coupled with personal responsibility. The ideals of the left, if not checked, will ultimately lead only to tyranny and oppression as our "Big Brother" federal government takes over more and more aspects of our personal lives and individual decisions.

Most left-wing ideologues could not debate their way out of a wet paper bag.

JPS, you asked, "What freedom of choice do we have left when corporations are leading the rest of us to the meat grinder?"

Take a long look in the mirror, and ask yourself what you, yes YOU, can do to improve your life. What freedom of choice do I have when the gov't taxes me, and then gives that money to some lazy ass, on welfare, that keeps turning out kids, and each kid has a different father?

The small (mom & pop) industries have more people working for them than the corporations do.While both political parties have some good ideas, they both have some bad ideas. But the US has always had people who know what personal responsibility is, and a lot of left wingers just don't understand that.And if I manage to have a couple of extra dollars in my pocket, why should you, or anyone else, who is too damn lazy to improve yourself, feel you deserve some of my extra money?

Answer that one in a intelligent way if you can.Also, JPS, I'm not a right winger or left winger, just an average white American who is getting more pissed off every day.

What choice do I have when my tax money is spent giving illegals benefits?

Did Bill Gates have a choice when he came up with Microsoft? What about Steve Jobs with Apple computer? They did do something to better themselves, and the list can go on.

"Only this time, please don't punish us for being right too soon about these things?"

So brave and wise Jay... but who "punished" you? I have a feeling that this is more fake oppression. Sort of like the time you claimed people plagiarized your work and then provided no links or evidence of the said crime.

Also, classy comparison of fascists, communists and Clintons. I think you have read too much Goldberg.

"I think You have raed to much Goldberg."

And I think You are full of shit.

Seeing the coming threat of Hitler is equivalent to seeing the "truth" about the Clintons? Once again, Jay, you Godwin'd your own thread before it even got started.

By the way, Bush just admitted that in 2006 we were failing in Iraq, but he lied to the American people about that fact to keep spirits up. So look around and you'll see so many conservatives suddenly coming to the shocking realization that several of the things liberals have been saying for years just might have been true.

Well, better late than never, and "welcome to the club, folks." Only this time, please don't punish us for being right too soon about these things?

that is not a reasonable or ethic way of distribution of wealthness

Please prove, making sure to take into account the last 100 years of American and world history, especially including the massive economic gains in Africa thanks to legislation that Clinton signed and Bush expanded, that there is a limited supply of "wealthness." Next, prove that someone is forcibly preventing you from accessing it.

Good luck.

"the massive economic gains in Africa"

...from AGOA III and IV, mostly, since the first version of the bill would never have made it past Clinton unless you gave him a couple of interns to distract him first...

since the first version of the bill would never have made it past Clinton

True, but I give him at least a little credit for it. He could have vetoed it and didn't. :-)

jp2, two points:

1) I didn't say I had been "punished," but that the premature fascists were.

2) OF COURSE I can't point to sites that plagiarized me. The three or four times I've caught them, I've managed to either get the thief to take it down, or the host to shut it down. That last one took a little more effort, so I still had the bookmark handy -- even though it was no longer valid.

I only mentioned it to show a bit of sympathy with Pilgrim -- who now also can't show any proof that he was plagiarized from, either, because he succeeded in getting it taken down. Because that's how it works, you moron.

J.

Your right wing only serve one purpose, and that is not a reasonable or ethic way of distribution of wealthness,the purpose of maintaining themselves richer than when they came to this world and to do that they already bought enough to keep brainwashing voters.

I'm thinking public schools.

Or maybe Engrish is your second language?