Obama was all over the television today in a speech telling his audience that John McCain was guilty of what he accused Obama of doing.
Jamie Rubin referenced an old McCain interview he claimed showed that McCain would be softer on Hamas than Obama would be and Obama ran with it.
Surprise, surprise -- not true. Rubin left out a bit of the interview in his account. Here is the video of the exchange:
I thought it was clear enough from the edited portion Rubin did quote that McCain was not talking about taking the kind of stance on Iran that Obama did. McCain's statement, "They're the government and sooner or later we're going to have to deal with them in one way or another," is not the same as what Obama has said and even posted on his own website about talking to Iran "without preconditions." The full excerpt makes it absolutely clear that McCain would only do so after Hamas had met certain conditions.
Jamie Rubin: "Do you think that American diplomats should be operating the way they have been in the past, in working with the Palestinian government if Hamas is in now charge?"Sen. John McCain: "They're the government and sooner or later we're going to have to deal with them in one way or another, and I understand why this administration and previous administrations had such antipathy towards Hamas is because of their dedication to violence and the things they not only espouse but practice, so, but it's a new reality in the Middle East. And I think the lesson is people want security and a decent life and a decent future then they want democracy. Fatah was not giving them that."
Rubin: "So should the United States be dealing with that new reality through normal diplomatic contacts to get the job done for the United States?"
Sen. McCain: "I think the United States should take a step back, see what they do when they form their government, see what their policies are, and see the ways that we can engage with them, and if there aren't any, there may be a hiatus. But I think part of the relationship is going to be dictated by how Hamas acts, not how the United States acts."
If there is any doubt that what Obama said about dealing with Iran, refer also to his answer in a debate in July:
In Monday's debate from Charleston, S.C., Obama was asked by a questioner via YouTube if he would be willing to meet--without precondition--in the first year of his presidency with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea.Sister Toldjah has the video. Many Obama supporters seem to think this is a good issue for him because he can talk about how McCain's policy would be the same as Bush's and they can make this bogus claim that Obama would actually be tougher. If this issue helps Obama it will only be because the media continues to allow people like Rubin to spin them about what Obama and McCain have actually said when there are transcripts and even video available to the media that shows otherwise. It's gonna be a long six months."I would," he responded.
Update: Redstate is asking readers to contact the Washington Post to demand a retraction of Rubin's story. They provide contact info and more specifics in this post.
Update II: Rubin spins the part of the interview he had left out and complains that McCain and Bush are questioning Democrats' patriotism. We all know what it means when they trot out that line. Seriously, this is going to be a very long six months.




Comments (7)
Obamaliah and company.... (Below threshold)1. Posted by GM CASSEL AMH1(AW) USN RET | May 16, 2008 8:33 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Obamaliah and company.
1. Posted by GM CASSEL AMH1(AW) USN RET | May 16, 2008 8:33 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on May 16, 2008 20:33
2. Posted by SPQR | May 16, 2008 9:39 PM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Brian already tried Rubin's line of bunk in earlier thread.
2. Posted by SPQR | May 16, 2008 9:39 PM |
Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Posted on May 16, 2008 21:39
3. Posted by SPQR | May 16, 2008 10:47 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
As dishonest as Obama and his defenders are, scrapiron, your comment is inappropriate.
3. Posted by SPQR | May 16, 2008 10:47 PM |
Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Posted on May 16, 2008 22:47
4. Posted by hcddbz | May 17, 2008 12:12 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Animal Farm
1984
The guide books of the Progressives.
Double speak and editing of history.
4. Posted by hcddbz | May 17, 2008 12:12 AM |
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Posted on May 17, 2008 00:12
5. Posted by Adrian Browne | May 17, 2008 12:52 AM | Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
Very wise of you to so quickly concede that round to Obama.
5. Posted by Adrian Browne | May 17, 2008 12:52 AM |
Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on May 17, 2008 00:52
6. Posted by David M | May 17, 2008 9:26 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - Web Reconnaissance for 05/17/2008 A short recon of what's out there that might draw your attention updated throughout the day...so check back often.
6. Posted by David M | May 17, 2008 9:26 AM |
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Posted on May 17, 2008 09:26
7. Posted by SPQR | May 18, 2008 12:04 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
No, Adrian, it is not conceded even though Obama so quickly using Rubin's lies shows the coordinated nature of Rubin's fraudulent story.
7. Posted by SPQR | May 18, 2008 12:04 AM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on May 18, 2008 00:04