My life span was projected at 2.3 years...and loving it!!!

I guess the elephant-in-the-room has to stick its trunk further up your neverparts. Iceberg Scott McClellan must be cold distress.

The fall of Bush republicanism has a certain grandeur remaniscent of the fall of the Soviet Union or the sinking of the Titanic.

btw, Whatever happened to funny fave commenters like Jo or Kim...

And, yes, I meant netherparts above.

Well, I for one would like to hear more off-topic BDS rants. Tell us more, Donnie!

First I did the test with my actual answers and it said I should have died at 5.2 years old.

Then I started playing with it to see how they weighted things. It appears that it's more about the typical Marxist ideals than "environmental" concerns. Then again, Marxism and leftist "environmentalism" are one in the same so that wasn't really surprising.

Well actually they are not exactly one in the same, but rather the leftists use pseudo-environmentalism as a means to achieve their ultimate goal of Marxist socialism. I guess if you believe in leftist ideals it's o.k. to lie to people and play on their fears.

OK, w.i.t.c.l.h.

Scott McClellan's admissions contain nuggets that are...Criminal. Crimes committed against the Constitution and the People it purports to represent.

The fall of Bush republicanism has a certain grandeur remaniscent(sic) of the fall of the Soviet Union or the sinking of the Titanic.

Scott McClellan's admissions contain nuggets that are...Criminal.

Just more datapoints in my theory that lefties have a predilection for Attention Deficit. Or Tourette Syndrome.

Now, back to the topic: The basic premise behind all altruistic doctrines is that my injury is required in order to ensure the welfare of the collective. Not only is my suffering acceptable, it is necessary. And the level of my suffering for the good of the collective is found on a sliding scale that leads me to my ultimate sacrifice.

Yep. Sounds like a cult to me.

Clay-

Some more "datapoints for your eledictionz" Filled my tank today...Nearly seventy bucks...asshole.

That is truly f**ked up. But, by all means, use this obscure piece of crap from the other side of the world to "broad-brush" all "liberals" everywhere. A liberal being defined as anyone having differing political views from you.

The 'kill all the green pigs' idea won't work in the U.S. First to die would be Algorabge and all of the Holy-wood wonks along with their offspring. Actually everyone in Holy-wood and the surrounding area would have to die within 12 hours. The members of the U.S. congress would be next in line.
Funny what ideas about life come out of the mental facilities around the world. This idea is a prime example and millions of democrats will jump on the bandwagon, none will jump off the cliff to do their part.

Filled my tank today...Nearly seventy bucks.

Hey putz. Back on topic. Good job.

You can blame environmentalists like Prof. Schpinkee for the price of gas.

Are you twelve?

Hey Donnie the dense. I put $80.50 worth of gas in my F-150 4 x 4 yesterday and will do it again next week. Funny thing is that gas has went up 67% since the democrats took control of congress a short 16 months ago. Before the democrats 'leadership' the cost would have been around $35. I just look at it as the cost of electing the appeasers in 06 and it will get worse in 09. The liberals leadership want it all and don't want the average worker (that's you Donnie) to have anything. We used to call it Nazism or Communism, now we call it leadership by democrats. Is that democratism?

First to die would be Algorabge and all of the Holy-wood wonks along with their offspring.

The concept doesn't apply to them. They're exempt. That's the whole beauty of collectivism. The elite need not change their lifestyles. Cool, huh?

The face of seventy dollar fill-ups is poltroonish George WTF Bush. Care to elaborate?

Donnie,

Bowing to environmentalist demands since the 1970s, Congress has blocked oil and gas drilling from areas like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (10.4 billion barrels of oil, according to the U.S. Geological Service) and the Outer Continental Shelf (86 billion barrels of oil, according to the Minerals Management Service).

As Cuba works out deals with Canadian, Spanish and Chinese companies to explore for oil as close as 50 miles to Key West, Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., - apparently trying to appease the League of Conservation Voters which has given him a 10 percent rating - dubbed a proposal by Rep. John Peterson, R-Pa., to allow drilling 20 miles off the Florida coast as "crazy."

Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., and Rep. Connie Mack, R-Fla., also oppose OCS drilling thanks to oil spill hysteria whipped up by the Sierra Club.

You're up.

Clay-

The eggs you place in ANWR and Florida are shells. Nearly empty shells. Peak oil ist Peak Oil.

Your turn to elaborate. And cite sources, please, as did I.

Clay -

How DARE you actually bring stats to something like this! Don't you realize that you're supposed to look at Donnie's handwaving statements, nod sagely and go "You're right! How could I have been so blind!" instead of arguing on a fact-based level?

:-)

Just call me wacky that way.

I needed a car for a weekend so I rented a Prius. Gas isn't expensive if you don't need it. You know what I would've done, Clay, if I were as concerned as you about the lack of exploration/drilling? Adjusted my behaviour. You maybe could have started with asking a European how they have coped with gas prices historically far higher than ours. Personally, I got rid of my car and moved within walking distance of my office. That's not possible for everyone, but people seem far more likely to start demanding solutions to expensive commodities, rather than coping with the price of said commodities.

Blaming an impotent Democratic congress and/or an incompetent Republican administration for the cost of gas and oil is a bit ridiculous.

Okay. I'm patient. Go get your Ritalin and then read my comment...r-e-a-l slow.

You said that ANWR and the OCS were 'empty shells'. Please elaborate and cite sources. Unless, of course, you're purposefully being evasive.

You know what I would've done, Clay, if I were as concerned as you about the lack of exploration/drilling?

Can none of you follow conversations? I'm not complaining about the price of gas, Donnie is. I only offered explanations that perhaps he hadn't considered. The price of gas has given me an excuse to make my 4-cyl Scout a daily driver. I'm having a blast. But, you're not projecting, are you? I mean, you don't think that you're the only one smart enough to make adjustments, do you?

Clay- real slow-

How much do you pay for a gallon of gas?

Get it?

As the Instapundit said, "I'll believe it's a crisis when the people who keep telling me it's a crisis act like it's a crisis."

In that context, if this was truly a cult, then Vice President Al Gore would drink the cool-aid and kill himself immediately. No amount of preaching can ever atone for his wasteful life as a greenhouse pig. Al, please, save the planet!

Donnie,

You said that ANWR and the OCS were 'empty shells'. Please elaborate and cite sources. Let's start there. If not, then I get your game.

if this was truly a cult, then Vice President Al Gore would drink the cool-aid

I respectfully disagree. The leaders of cults always place themselves above the masses.

I still say it's a cult.

Feh -

For 30 years Congress has proven its impotence - we WOULD be energy-independent through expansion of drilling locations, refineries, and nuke plants. Problem is, our favorite Congresswhores have sold us all out.

I noticed that the socialist Tool slams all the ills of financial success - no surprise. For the Gaia-worshipping yahoos, let it stand that my death age *should* have been negative - they never gave me the option of selecting my 7.4 liter gas-burner as a mode of transport.

Chevy 3500 - the anti-Prius.

Clay- Do you really think ANWR is an endless reserve? Do you really think Florida is the answer?

They are the epitome of empty souless shells.

Remember the go-to guestion--How much are you paying for a galllon of gas?

Donnie says-

"Some more "datapoints for your eledictionz" Filled my tank today...Nearly seventy bucks...asshole."

What kind of car do you drive? Can't be one of those "eco-friendly" hybrids.

"They are the epitome of empty souless shells."

Talk to your friend min about "broad brushing".

Dummie,

No, no, no.

HOW MUCH is only relevant if you are prepared to ask WHY you are paying that much...and prepared to deal with the answer.

You don't seem to have the, ahhhh, faculties necessary for the WHY.

Donnie,

You should really supply some stats instead of one liners. Yes, we get gas is expensive, Clay explained why with good stats. He's asked for yours. You've supplied nothing. You are unlikely to win any favor. Not being mean, just trying to be helpful. Also a spel chekker is helpful good grammer use to good.

Do you really think ANWR is an endless reserve? Do you really think Florida is the answer?

You don't have stats, do you? Typical leftie. Turns evasive when the talk turns to reality.

Remember the go-to guestion--How much are you paying for a galllon of gas?

That wasn't the question, and you know it. You are being evasive. You keep saying that ANWR & OCS are 'empty shells', but you refuse to back it up. Produce the stats or shut up.

Awwww, poor Donnie's just mad that Cassie referred to this calculator as "the perfect liberal tool" when Donnie knows that he is the perfect liberal tool!

Stats are here: http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/infosheets/petroleumproductsconsumption.html

US oil consumption in 2005 was 20.8MM barrels per day, 60% imported. That means we need 12.5MM barrels of additional domestic production to wean us off foreign oil.

Let's see: 96.4 billion barrrels from ANWR and OCS (Clay - 15 above) divided by 12.5MM barrels per day = 21.13 years. Finite shells yes, but hardly empty.

Worth hundreds of billions in new refineries, Joel? Um, no. Howzabout huge tax breaks for people who buy hybrids? Howzabout massive investment in public transportation? Seriously, subways and streetcars are fun to ride to work (read the paper, play with the 'Pod), but if you need to commute, the Prius was totally sweet, give it a try. It's like driving... in the future.

The problem is that liberals simply don't think. They make proclamations that are not founded in fact. Donnie says that George Bush is the villain behind the price of gas, yet it can be so easily demonstrated that this problem is 30 years in the making. The source of the problem can be traced back to the environmentalists (who are collectivists) making the claim that we must go back to the stone age or risk extinction. All the while the leaders of this collective make no concessions in their own lives and are perfectly willing for this problem to rest on the shoulders of the masses. I tell you that the collectivists are absolutely gleeful that the price of gas is rising. It forces us to make the concessions they desire. This is the culmination of 30+ years of work. Donnie is just an unwitting instrument. Emphasize the unwitting.

BTW, keep in mind that as the gas prices rise, so does their tax windfall. In the meantime, they march the oil execs into session and portray solidarity with the masses they victimize. Now ask yourselves who the real culprits are.

How're ya doing on those stats, Donnie?