I was reading a post today at Moonbattery about Amnesty International that included this picture:

It also linked to this story from CNS News about yet another ridiculous Gitmo protest:
Amnesty International USA brought a life-sized replica of a Guantanamo Bay prison cell to Washington on Wednesday. But amenities provided to prisoners -- bedding, toiletries, a copy of the Koran and three meals a day -- were nowhere mentioned.AIUSA says it timed its Washington, D.C., stop -- part of a national tour -- to coincide with a House Judiciary subcommittee's hearing on harsh interrogation techniques.
Dressed in orange jump suits, "chained" together and holding placards that spelled out "Stop Torture," AIUSA members and other activists staged a rally at the foot of the Washington Monument.
"The purpose is to try to bring to the American people a little bit of the reality of what the United States government is doing to human beings in Guantanamo," Larry Cox, executive director of AIUSA, told Cybercast News Service.
"We want people to actually see what's being done in their name, to get a sense of what it means to be held for not just one year or two years, but as many as six years in a box," he said, "where you can't move around, where you're almost totally isolated, where you're put in stress positions that are extremely painful, when you're humiliated like that, when you haven't been charged or tried for any crime."
Cox's description of Guantanamo, however, contrasts with other reports of the facilities where individuals suspected of terrorist training and activities have been held since it opened in 2002.
According to Globalsecurity.org, an online security and military database, detainees at Guantanamo are given basic supplies, such as clothing, towels, sheets, blankets, soap, shampoo, toothbrush and toothpaste.
They also are given a copy of the Koran and three "culturally appropriate" meals. Prayer rugs also are distributed, and a recorded call to prayer is broadcast five times a day.
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The cell on display on the Mall is 10 feet long, 7 feet wide and 8 feet tall. It has a toilet, a sleeping bunk and a small window. The AIUSA says it is an example of a Camp 5 cell.
According to Globalsecurity.org, however, Camp 5 is a permanent two-story maximum security complex with cells that measure 10 feet by 20 feet and have a toilet, bed and a sink.
"Those that are considered the most dangerous and those deemed to have the most valuable security are housed there," the Web site reports.
The Web site also reports that there are a variety of other quarters. Detainees who cooperate with staff and help to develop intelligence are relocated to less restrictive quarters, the Web site reports.
In Camp 1, detainees wear tan uniforms instead of orange ones, and social interaction is allowed, including pairs who can kick soccer balls around. Thirty one percent of detainees at Guantanamo are in Camp 1.
Camp 4 has dormitories that hold up to 20 detainees and detainees are allowed to eat, sleep and pray together. They wear white uniforms, have lockers for personal belongings and common recreation areas for games and team sports. Chess, checkers and cards, the Web site says, are the most requested games.
The "GITMO = TORTURE!!!" meme is old and tired. I think I've stayed in motels crappier than Gitmo. What I really wondered about this story, though, had not a whole lot to do with yet another dumb protest of Guantanamo Bay. Yeah, yeah, we get it. We're not treating the terrorist murderers nicely enough for you liberals. We should be welcoming them into the United States with open arms and absolve them of their crimes, no matter how horrible. Understood.
I saw the picture Van Helsing posted though, and the text gave me a thought. In case it's tough for anyone to read, here's what it says on the signs in the picture:
THE WORLD CAN'T WAIT! DRIVE OUT THE BUSH REGIME!
I couldn't help but read that and wonder... what are these people going to do after Bush? I mean, he's got less than a year left as President. He'll step down. A new President will step up. America will still be in tact. There will be no massive takeover, no shredding of the Constitution, no last-ditch effort to hold on. The "Bush regime" will come to an end.
How are these people going to handle that??
There are so many lefties who are absolutely consumed with hatred of W. Once he's out of office and there's no one left to hate, what are they going to do with themselves? There'll be no more need for protesting the "Bush regime". There'll be no more reason to carry on with BDS. It'll be over. And I can't help but think that these lefties who hate W will be massively disappointed that their conspiracy theories weren't true. It seems to me like these people were enjoying their misery these past eight years thoroughly. It probably makes them feel so important to carry on with all of these protests, so sophisticated to deny America and align themselves with terrorists and their appeasers. They get attention for their stunts. And with Bush out of office, all of that will go away.
I can only imagine the emptiness these people will feel, especially if Obama gets the Presidency... because with McCain they can continue on with their merry charade, bleating feebly about how this is really Bush's third term, and Karl Rove is behind the whole thing anyways, and by the way, have they told you about Halliburton conspiring with the Jews to take out Palestine?
These are the type of people who absolutely thrive on bad news. They want everything to be going to hell, because then they get to protest and perform. When things aren't going badly, they have to create an alternate reality where everything is horrible and it's up to them and their humanitarian, leftist goodness to come in and save the day. Aw.
So, I'd imagine that they'd be terribly disappointed if their guy wins, because then, their entire existence will be erased. They'll have their Marxist President, and everything they've been working towards will likely happen.
The question is, what then? After the "Bush regime" has been driven out, what are these idiots going to do? My guess is, they'll probably do one of two things. They'll either keep protesting about nothing the way they have been for the past eight years, claiming that McCain's presidency is really just a shadow presidency and that Bush is still in charge. OR, they'll sit around, soaking in their nostalgia, wishing for the good 'ole days when they had a reason to feel important.
Kind of sad either way.
Comments (39)
You hit the nail right on t... (Below threshold)1. Posted by glenn | June 28, 2008 11:32 AM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
You hit the nail right on the head with "It made them feel important" Like the young college freshman who made the news falsely claiming the FBI had come to his dorm room to question him because he checked out Mao's red book from the local library these losers need to feel they are inportant enough to warrant the attention of some unnamed secret gov't agency, or maybe the Pres himself. And on a more practical note in some cases it helps get 'em l**d.
1. Posted by glenn | June 28, 2008 11:32 AM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 11:32
2. Posted by macofromoc | June 28, 2008 12:17 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
You've underestimated the ability of these morons to spin conspiracy fables out of nothing.
2. Posted by macofromoc | June 28, 2008 12:17 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 12:17
3. Posted by Doc | June 28, 2008 12:23 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Me thinks they'll be be in high gear pushing congress for hearings into Bush administration activities hoping to bring Bushitlerwarforoil to justice for crimes against nature, blah, blah, blah.
3. Posted by Doc | June 28, 2008 12:23 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 12:23
4. Posted by tyree | June 28, 2008 12:25 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
"How are these people going to handle that??"
Poorly. Heck, they didn't cover themselves in glory attacking the President during his Presidency, much of what they did provided support for the terrorists.
On day listening to the radio I heard Tammy Bruce, former NOW chapter president, relating the event that turned her away from the left wing. She was talking to some leftist friends and one of them stated with glee that he had a bottle of champagne chilling, ready to uncork when Ronald Reagan died. It was at that moment that she realized that she did not belong in that group. There are wonderful Democrats in the US, and there are the troofers, moonbats, socialists, communists and cop killers. The Big Tent is moth eaten and torn.
4. Posted by tyree | June 28, 2008 12:25 PM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 12:25
5. Posted by Mac Lorry | June 28, 2008 12:30 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
OR, they'll get to experience reality when terrorists discover America has lost it's mind and elected a leftist extremist as president. You know, kind of like how the reality of $4 plus gas has shocked some liberals out of their no drill, no nuke, carbon credit delusions. Will Obama still opposes drilling when gas hits $5 a gallon before election day? We can only hope he's that stupid.
5. Posted by Mac Lorry | June 28, 2008 12:30 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 12:30
6. Posted by max | June 28, 2008 12:41 PM | Score: -18 (18 votes cast)
You gotta look on the bright side, Cassy. Your Obama Derangement Syndrome is already fully manifested so when he takes office you can hit the ground running. Anyways, we'll totally be at war with Iran by then, so the eeeevil left will have plenty to protest.
And considering that Clinton Derangement Syndrome is still going strong 8 years after he left office I'm sure it'll take a while for the libruls to let go of Chimpy McHitler. Totally. Anyways, it'll take Obama a while to totally destroy the nation, so you'll have time to go back and finish the 8th grade.
6. Posted by max | June 28, 2008 12:41 PM |
Score: -18 (18 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 12:41
7. Posted by irongrampa | June 28, 2008 12:53 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Not much concern on this end. I suspect they'll continue the tantrums while the adults go about administering the country.
Having been unsuccessful for nearly 8 years to topple Bush, it's not likely that he's going to be affected in civilian life.
7. Posted by irongrampa | June 28, 2008 12:53 PM |
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Posted on June 28, 2008 12:53
8. Posted by Bullwinkle | June 28, 2008 1:10 PM | Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
A better question might have been: Will Jon Stewart and Bill Maher be out work if Obama wins? Will they turn on the Dems if they control the White House and both houses of congress?
8. Posted by Bullwinkle | June 28, 2008 1:10 PM |
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Posted on June 28, 2008 13:10
9. Posted by Stan25 | June 28, 2008 1:16 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
They will still say that Dick Cheney is in charge. The BDS crowd have believed that Bush was too stupid to do anything without the guidance of Dick Cheney. They will also say that Dick Cheney--him and Karl Rove-- will be driving the McCain presidency too.
9. Posted by Stan25 | June 28, 2008 1:16 PM |
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Posted on June 28, 2008 13:16
10. Posted by jp2 | June 28, 2008 1:33 PM | Score: -17 (21 votes cast)
"The "GITMO = TORTURE!!!" meme is old and tired. I think I've stayed in motels crappier than Gitmo."
Really...you got waterboard service and free starvation?
10. Posted by jp2 | June 28, 2008 1:33 PM |
Score: -17 (21 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 13:33
11. Posted by Mike G in Corvallis | June 28, 2008 2:14 PM | Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
It bothers me that Amnesty International now sucks so badly -- they used to do good work. Now they aim their protests against the only people who would ever pay any attention to them, and they ignore the perpetrators of true human rights outrages -- praising them by faint damns, as it were.
I am not advocating this, but I had a sudden mental image of a few dozen mock-jihadists, in appropriate costume and toting AK-47s, crashing this event ... and then suddenly pulling out very real knives and beheading a few of these moral imbeciles to demonstrate what real human-rights abuses are.
11. Posted by Mike G in Corvallis | June 28, 2008 2:14 PM |
Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 14:14
12. Posted by Tom Blogical | June 28, 2008 3:50 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Nick Berg would be jealous of Gitmo's conditions. God rest his soul.
12. Posted by Tom Blogical | June 28, 2008 3:50 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 15:50
13. Posted by hyperbolist | June 28, 2008 4:18 PM | Score: -13 (15 votes cast)
Cassy, if you have stayed in motels worse than Gitmo, maybe you should do something about how poor you are. Like, spend less time posting bilious drivel on the intertubes, and more time upgrading your career skills.
13. Posted by hyperbolist | June 28, 2008 4:18 PM |
Score: -13 (15 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 16:18
14. Posted by Poole | June 28, 2008 5:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Cassy
I have stayed in a motel that was worse than GITMO. It was in a small town (population 5,000) during a hurricane evacuation. The town had a total of two motels with a total of about 36 rooms.
The furnishings and bedding would have been quaint in a family member's small farm house, but was dreary in a rental unit.
14. Posted by Poole | June 28, 2008 5:54 PM |
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Posted on June 28, 2008 17:54
15. Posted by rethug | June 28, 2008 6:15 PM | Score: -15 (15 votes cast)
Well thank god as a victim of torture McCain plans on shutting down gutananomo (he's not as evil as Bush) of course we can all still hate how Bush basically abused signing statements wiretapped without warrents outed a cia agent ruined the economy got us in an endless war bungled Afghanistan bungled katrina, politcized the justice department turned record surpluses into record deficits ruined our economic future by cutting taxes in time of war and causing major debt to the chinese for funding his stupid war which has created a terroist recruiting wonderland got WMD wrong ruined our reputation in the world
Allowed Korea to increase nuke program significantly, ignored the threat of global warming silenced scientist.
yep that idiot you loved fucked up enough for us and all that are not insane in this country to hate him forever. Luckily for him he has his fellow stupid people. who desipte all that still love him. maybe you can invest in his next company, he has such a good track record with those.
15. Posted by rethug | June 28, 2008 6:15 PM |
Score: -15 (15 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 18:15
16. Posted by Clay | June 28, 2008 6:20 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Like, spend less time posting bilious drivel on the intertubes,
Like, the irony is astounding.
16. Posted by Clay | June 28, 2008 6:20 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 18:20
17. Posted by Clay | June 28, 2008 6:31 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
all that are not insane in this country to hate him forever.
Hey bud, not to make you more paranoid that you are, but they guy in the top bunk is staring at you.
17. Posted by Clay | June 28, 2008 6:31 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 18:31
18. Posted by Mac Lorry | June 28, 2008 6:34 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
rethug,
Too bad your rant has little basis in reality.
18. Posted by Mac Lorry | June 28, 2008 6:34 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 18:34
19. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | June 28, 2008 7:09 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
If I had my wish, all those pictured and some of the posters here would be immediately turned over to the Taliban, or maybe their friends in Darfur for interrogation. I'll bet anything given the choice they would prefer waterboarding. I simply hate traitors. Those pictured need a drive by.
19. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | June 28, 2008 7:09 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 19:09
20. Posted by GarandFan | June 28, 2008 7:18 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
I vote we capture, interrogate and then kill the fuckers. Then 'no problem'. But I guess that's not "PC".
Same shitheads tell cops "you can reason with a drunk".
20. Posted by GarandFan | June 28, 2008 7:18 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 19:18
21. Posted by Clay | June 28, 2008 7:50 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Too bad your rant has little basis in reality.
But, the fact that he could hit all the conspiracies without taking a breath was impressive. It's like he can spew all that without even thinking. Oh wait...
21. Posted by Clay | June 28, 2008 7:50 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 19:50
22. Posted by John F Not Kerry | June 28, 2008 8:37 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Actually, Clay, it looked more like cutting and pasting, considering the lack of proper punctuation and capitalization.
22. Posted by John F Not Kerry | June 28, 2008 8:37 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 20:37
23. Posted by Clay | June 28, 2008 10:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
considering the lack of proper punctuation and capitalization.
I don't think they'll cover that until 1st grade. So, I wouldn't expect better results from him until next year.
23. Posted by Clay | June 28, 2008 10:50 PM |
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Posted on June 28, 2008 22:50
24. Posted by Scrapiron | June 28, 2008 11:28 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
They will require some intensive Mental Health care and that won't work. BDS is incurable. Thousands will comitt suicide (someone make them some Jim Jones Koolaide) and the rest will be locked away.
24. Posted by Scrapiron | June 28, 2008 11:28 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on June 28, 2008 23:28
25. Posted by James Cloninger | June 29, 2008 2:18 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
I'm tired of this GITMO=TORTURE shit. You want these scum out of Gitmo? Fine, put them in the Florence ADMAX. 23 hours a day in a very small cell, with almost nothing but yourself, a concrete molded bed, no contact with other prisoners, and one hour supervised excercise. They'll be begging to go back to the Cuban sun.
25. Posted by James Cloninger | June 29, 2008 2:18 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on June 29, 2008 02:18
26. Posted by James Cloninger | June 29, 2008 2:19 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Really...you got waterboard service and free starvation?
You know, you are a fucking idiot, jp, has anyone told you this lately?
26. Posted by James Cloninger | June 29, 2008 2:19 AM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on June 29, 2008 02:19
27. Posted by OhioVoter | June 29, 2008 8:11 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
I'd take Gitmo anyday over being a resident of Waco with Janet Reno in charge.
27. Posted by OhioVoter | June 29, 2008 8:11 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on June 29, 2008 08:11
28. Posted by OhioVoter | June 29, 2008 8:17 AM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
And, by Waco, I mean the Branch Davidian complex. Horrible things happen there? There were certainly serious allegations made that should have been checked out.
Had they gotten a trial we would have descovered if the allegations were true or not.
28. Posted by OhioVoter | June 29, 2008 8:17 AM |
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Posted on June 29, 2008 08:17
29. Posted by Ran56 | June 29, 2008 11:14 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ohio.. Wasn't reno in charge during Ruby Ridge too?
29. Posted by Ran56 | June 29, 2008 11:14 AM |
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Posted on June 29, 2008 11:14
30. Posted by Clay | June 29, 2008 2:45 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
jp, has anyone told you this lately?
I doubt that he's a stranger to the term.
30. Posted by Clay | June 29, 2008 2:45 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on June 29, 2008 14:45
31. Posted by bryanD | June 29, 2008 8:53 PM | Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
"The "GITMO = TORTURE!!!" meme is old and tired."- cassy
The service of Gitmo(and elsewhere in the GWOT Gulag) as a state-sanctioned torture chamber at the behest of a neoconservative cabal in the White House, and in reversal of 800 years of Anglo-Saxon consensus against such, will be the subject of historians (and polemicists) for decades to come. 2012-2108 is when the scholar-reporters can be expected to begin turning in their work. The more inclusive outlines and surveys might run into many volumes, like Gibbon's Decline and Fall Of the Roman Empire, considering the modern requirement for copious footnotes.
Bush: the Elagabalus who stayed too long thanks to the stability of US laws of which he himself is so dismissive.
31. Posted by bryanD | June 29, 2008 8:53 PM |
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Posted on June 29, 2008 20:53
32. Posted by Sheik Yur Bouty | June 30, 2008 3:34 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bryanD,
If Bush were really 'so dismissive' of US laws, you and most of your ilk would be, let's put this delicately, disappeared.
32. Posted by Sheik Yur Bouty | June 30, 2008 3:34 PM |
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Posted on June 30, 2008 15:34
33. Posted by hyperbolist | June 30, 2008 6:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yeah, Sheik, he would round up the 70% of the population that doesn't like him or approve of his job performance and toss them all out of helicopters, a la Pinochet.
I wonder what is the percentage of Americans who feel pity for their President right now. Probably more than approve of him, anyway.
33. Posted by hyperbolist | June 30, 2008 6:27 PM |
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Posted on June 30, 2008 18:27
34. Posted by OregonMuse | June 30, 2008 7:56 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Actually, I think that episode was during George H.W. Bush's presidency.
34. Posted by OregonMuse | June 30, 2008 7:56 PM |
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Posted on June 30, 2008 19:56
35. Posted by OregonMuse | June 30, 2008 8:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And actually, Chile could have had it a lot worse than Pinochet.
Like Allende, for instance.
35. Posted by OregonMuse | June 30, 2008 8:00 PM |
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Posted on June 30, 2008 20:00
36. Posted by HughS | June 30, 2008 8:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I wonder what is the percentage of Americans who feel pity for their President right now. Probably more than approve of him, anyway.
I haven't a clue how many pity him (but not many I wouls guess...he's either admired/respected or hated), but if the election were held today I think Bush would win by margins greater than he did when he defeated Kerry. His campaign would be simple: national security and taxes. Bush is far more popular with the base than McCain.
36. Posted by HughS | June 30, 2008 8:10 PM |
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Posted on June 30, 2008 20:10
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