Remember how many years the trolls here boasted how a balanced budget was so important and how great things were with Clinton because he 'balanced' the budget? (Not really of course, these were always PROJECTED budgets.)

Now every Dem candidate must follow the Obamamessiah and claim that the budget doesn't have to be balanced. Every GOP candidate MUST press the Dems having to agree to this 180 degree change from their leader.

Pot, kettle is bad enough.

Republican, Democrat is a cautionary tale.

Yes, but McCain first tells the public that he's no economic details guy, and then unveils some budget that real economists blast. The Truth Express has really run off the tracks on this issue.

At least Obama is leveling with voters, what can and cannot be done in just four years and with the economic uncertainty of a recession lingering around it is impossible to predict the overall economic health right now. No one can look four years into the future, except John McCain now that there is an election looming.

In a upwardly growing economy, it is far easier to make economic projections than in what's going on right now. The government has no idea how many will become unemployed and will require government benefits such as food stamps, public health care or unemployment insurance, rather than provide taxable income.

But what should I know about business and economics? I only ran seven businesses in my lifetime including a real estate property rental business that I run now. I've witnessed many business cycles since the 1970's when I started my first business at age 23.

The next Democrat elected president (whether McCain or Obama) will have no prayer of balancing the budget. Given the economic disaster now unfolding, the next president will give us the first trillion dollar deficit. If Obama manages to socialize our healthcare system, you could see a $3 trillion annual deficit by 2012. (Imagine going to the doctor but instead finding those clueless idiots that search your suitcase at the airport!)

Socialized healthcare will have all the compassion and tenderness of the IRS coupled with the competency and professional politeness of the TSA.

If we're lucky, that is. It could be much worse...

On the other hand, at least Obama's being forthright and honest about his economic intentions. Rather like a rapist describing in detail what he intends to do to his victim, isn't it?

I am afraid if Obama gets in as President, we will a depression that will make the Depression of 1929-1941 seem like a boom economy. That is what Democrats want for us and of course they will blame George Bush for the mess that they created, as they did Herbert Hoover.

The solution is to not vote for Obama. Those who think government is the solution should pack up and move to China.

This website is absolutely infested with parody trolls.

Yes, but McCain first tells the public that he's no economic details guy, and then unveils some budget that real economists blast. The Truth Express has really run off the tracks on this issue.

At least Obama is leveling with voters, what can and cannot be done in just four years and with the economic uncertainty of a recession lingering around it is impossible to predict the overall economic health right now. No one can look four years into the future, except John McCain now that there is an election looming.

Well, you are half right. ;-)

Agreed about John McCain. The only thing that he has promised of worth is that he promised to try and, in this day and age, it is a promise that isn't worth much. In addition to not knowing what ecomonic/natural disaster is looming in the future, he would still have to deal with Congress and their (Democrat AND Republican)tendency to add "pork" to every bill.

However, Obama isn't leveling with the people either. If you have run as many businesses as you claim - and I have no reason to doubt that you have - you cannot claim a one-year savings on one item, and then translate into a new multi-year entitlement on something else. Every year after the first, the program will run in a defecit and you don't need to be economic prophet to know that.

The Democratic alternative national anthem, "Big Rock Candy Mountain".

A gold star to anyone who can give a basic outline of the McCain plan to balance the budget in 4 years. Bonus points for details. With his wealth of experience, John McCain must have a detailed plan available somewhere.

How in the world is McCain going to the balance the budget if we keep the war going?

Currently to pay for the war we are borrowing 2 billion dollars a week from other countries such as China.

That is what Democrats want for us and of course they will blame George Bush for the mess that they created, as they did Herbert Hoover.

And if Kerry had won the last election republicans would be blaming the democrats for the Iraq mess. After all, didn't Cheney say, just before the last election that the insurgency was in its last throws.

If Kerry had won I can just imagine all the posts on this site blaming Kerry for the Iraq mess.

I am afraid if Obama gets in as President, we will a depression that will make the Depression of 1929-1941 seem like a boom economy. That is what Democrats want for us and of course they will blame George Bush for the mess that they created, as they did Herbert Hoover.

Bush already created a mess of the economy. It sounds like your preparing to blame it on the democratics should they win in November.

Furthermore to your comment, Dave: the 25 percenters are apparently ridiculous enough to believe that a Democratic government would run the United States (even further) into the ground just to stick it to George W. Bush.

George W. Bush doesn't need anybody else's help making himself look completely incompetent. His lack of stewardship and leadership on the economy are now as obvious as his failure to properly plan and execute a sensible strategy in the Middle East. The guy will never, ever realize his ultimate career ambition of being the Commissioner of Major League Baseball.

George W. Bush doesn't need anybody else's help making himself look completely incompetent. His lack of stewardship and leadership on the economy are now as obvious as his failure to properly plan and execute a sensible strategy in the Middle East. The guy will never, ever realize his ultimate career ambition of being the Commissioner of Major League Baseball.

Hyperbolist,

Don't forget Bush could not have done it himself. The republican controlled House & Senate share just as much blame.

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2008 outlay for the DOD 583,058
2008 outlay for the DHHS 707,785
2008 outlay for the SSA 658,408

Dave, I could just as easily claim that your 104 billion dollars of loans is covering the crippling social programs...

Dave, I could just as easily claim that your 104 billion dollars of loans is covering the crippling social programs

MonkeyB,

The primary point I was making is that it is totally unrealistic to claim to be able to balance the budget, due to the high cost of the war. If you can dispute that please due so.

Obama wants to keep the big money for his Gub'mint people, and we "Makers" get to keep the "change."

"The Obamamessiah can't be bothered with balancing the budget" -- Cassy

Hilarious, absolutely hilarious. SINCE WHEN HAS A CONSERVATIVE BEEN TRULY INTERESTED IN BALANCING THE BUDGET????

It took Bill Clinton nearly eight years to get rid of the Reagan deficit. You really can't be expecting Obama to now be making pie-in-the-sky promises for his first term regarding the elimination of Chimpy's deficit.

This is a relatively new Foundation refreshingly straight-forward about the country's current fiscal situation.

http://www.pgpf.org/

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It took Bill Clinton nearly eight years to get rid of the Reagan deficit.

And, as those who were really paying attention know, his claim to a balanced budget was also smoke and mirrors and no different than what McClain is pretending he will do.

The difference is that McClain thinks he will make the cuts in entitlement programs while Clinton's attempts were virtually all at the expense of the military and its preparedness.

This is a nation of 300 million people. It is a sad day when this is the best we can come up with in leadership.

Ohio Voter -

I'm thinking that if the bureaucrats behind the entitlement programs were suddenly forced to 'show' what they do toward producing an end result - IE getting needed funds to a recipient - we'd find two thirds were excess, put in to fulfill some imaginary need by a mid-level manager more concerned with increasing the number of people he supervises than with actually being effective.

I am afraid if Obama gets in as President, we will a depression that will make the Depression of 1929-1941 seem like a boom economy. That is what Democrats want for us and of course they will blame George Bush for the mess that they created, as they did Herbert Hoover.

But your willing to pin your hopes with a man who has admitted economics is not his strong point.

Part of the reason I support Obama has to do with the way he handled the tax holiday that McCain proposed first. Hillary in voicing her support for the tax holiday said,

"I'm not going to put in my lot with economists"

So to Stan25 and all like minded thinkers out there, if your concerned about the economy, put your lot with the economists and vote for Obama.

Dave,

It takes a little more than rejecting a gas tax holiday to prove that you understand the economy. Given that you "proof" of your belief comes from Hillary Clinton - and not John McClain - tells us little about McClain.

As I have already stated, I believe McClain's promise, like many of Obama's, are nothing but politics as usual, but that particular example was a poor one to demonstrate that Obama knows what he is talking about.

And since I do speak Spanish, I must know what I am talking about .... (J/K)