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This is why Michael Savage is the most hated conservative in America.

I'm embarassed that this guy is on our side. He's got more in common with the Krazy Kos Kids than conservatives. Things like this are why I'm ashamed of him.

For whatever reason, Michael Savage decided that he needed to attack the autism epidemic, saying some pretty inflammatory, insulting, and just plain wrong things. Check it out:

My first thought was, I wonder if Melissa has heard about this.

While I do agree with Savage that kids are often overdiagnosed and overtreated by idiot parents these days (hello, ADD), I don't know that autism necessarily fits into that same category. And to say that children who have autism are kids whose dads just need to tell them to "wake up and be a man" is outrageous, insulting, and just plain idiotic. What makes Michael Savage, a political commentator, some kind of expert on autism? Probably nothing except that he wanted to say something inflammatory enough that he'd get people talking. I mean, this does not equal "spoiled brat":

Autism is a severe disorder that first appears in infancy. Individuals with autism are characterized by problems with language, social bonding and imagination. All suffer from serious communication deficits, and some are mute. They do not establish close relationships with others, preferring to remain in their own mental worlds.

They engage in highly stereotyped and repetitive activities, exhibiting a marked aversion to change. About two thirds of autistic individuals are mentally retarded. For reasons that are unknown, most are male.

The causes of autism remain enigmatic, although studies of twins suggest that genetic ­factors play a prominent role. Still, genetic in­fluences alone cannot account for such a rapid and astronomical rise in a disorder's prevalence over a matter of just a few years. As a consequence, investigators have turned to environmental factors for potential explanations. The causal agents proposed include antibiotics, ­viruses, allergies, enhanced opportunities for parents with mild autistic traits to meet and mate, and, in one recent study conducted by Cornell University ­researchers, elevated rates of television viewing in infants. Few of these explanations have been investigated systematically, and all remain speculative.


But of course, to Michael Savage, this just means the kid is a spoiled brat whose parents need to stop being such pansies and hammer down the discipline. Real intelligent. I'd hate to hear what his thoughts on Down Syndrome are. The backlash is already building, but Savage is refusing to back down. Meanwhile, Autism United is hopping mad:
Michael Savage, the incendiary radio host who last week characterized nearly every child with autism as "a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out," said in a telephone interview on Monday that he stood by his remarks and had no intention of apologizing to those advocates and parents who have called for his firing over the matter.

"My main point remains true," Mr. Savage, whose radio audience ranks in size behind only those of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, said in the interview. "It is an overdiagnosed medical condition. In my readings, there is no definitive medical diagnosis for autism."

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"He characterizes children with autism who are very, very ill -- disabled children -- as essentially bad kids; the only thing wrong with them is they have parents who don't discipline them," said John Gilmore, executive director of Autism United and the father of an 8-year-old with a diagnosis of autism. "That completely misrepresents what is going on with children with autism."

"Basically, what he's doing is parroting what used to be said about autism 40 years ago, back in the heyday of Freudian analysis," Mr. Gilmore added. "It was blamed on bad parenting. There wasn't a shred of evidence to support that."


I'm not a big fan of the new style of parenting, which usually involves giving your child anything they want if they just cry and scream enough. I'm not going to argue that there are a lot of parents who need to take more of a tough love approach with their bratty kids. But to say that an autistic child is just a brat whose parents need to tell the idiot to straighten up is ignorant and idiotic. I mean, honestly -- where does this guy get this stuff? It's crazy and moronic and hateful, and it makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.

And this is exactly why Michael Savage is the most hated conservative in America.

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Comments (89)

I understand even more why ... (Below threshold)

I understand even more why Mark Levin refers to him as "weiner nation".

cant believe no one believe... (Below threshold)
JMG:

cant believe no one believes in free speech anymore... all of you so called conservatives have played directly into "Media Matters" trap! ...good job

o yea and if you actually l... (Below threshold)
JMG:

o yea and if you actually listened to his show ever, and not just the clips recorded by liberals, you would see that he is a little bit more qualified in the medical field than you think

At least he's not a racist ... (Below threshold)
Dave:

At least he's not a racist like Rush Limbaugh.

From the unhinged comments ... (Below threshold)
Master Shake:

From the unhinged comments so far, are you sure Savage isn't Ron Paul in disguise?

I'll play apologist for a s... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

I'll play apologist for a second here.

The definition of autism has been expanded to basically include a much larger array of people such as those who have OCD or Social Awkwardness but otherwise normal or even above normal IQs. Just about anything that is onset at birth that can be attributed to a medical factor instead of an environmental factor is called autism.

In that sense, I agree the term autism has been overused because much of the general public still perceive autism is as only applied to the intellectually impaired. They don't think of the straight A nerd with the bug collection and no friends as being 'autistic' which is how he might be described today. The sympathy for the former garners more interest and dollars than the latter.

My guess that is what Savage was ranting about. Although his style eclipses his point often.

I love how people like dave... (Below threshold)

I love how people like dave throw stuff out like that and never back it up.

o yea and if you actuall... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

o yea and if you actually listened to his show ever, and not just the clips recorded by liberals, you would see that he is a little bit more qualified in the medical field than you think

Oh, please. Dr. Weiner (his real name) has degrees in medical biology, medical anthropology, and nutritional ethnomedicine (WTF is that?). So, if you need a go-to guy to figure out what herbs to take to get rid of your gout, that would be him.

But for autism, I want someone more qualified. Like a neurosurgeon.

cant believe no one beli... (Below threshold)
Dave:

cant believe no one believes in free speech anymore... all of you so called conservatives have played directly into "Media Matters" trap! ...good job

jmg,

You're the one sounding like an anti-free speech advocate. I beleive free speech gives everyone the right criticize those we disagree with, even conservatives such as Michael Savage. No one said Savage should not be allowed to act like an idiot on the radio.

I love how people like d... (Below threshold)
Dave:

I love how people like dave throw stuff out like that and never back it up.

For one he plays KKK type songs about Obama. You happy now.

Ok as the father of a sever... (Below threshold)
MunDane:

Ok as the father of a severely autistic child, I have to say...

Nah. This is stupid. This is akin to Coulter's "camel jockeys" reference. And his masters is Medical Botany, not biology.

His audience will be all over this like white on rice. Good luck to them.

"KKK type song"...well it w... (Below threshold)

"KKK type song"...well it was the LA Times that called him the "magic negro" nitwit. It's called satire...look it up.

Autism is the most extreme ... (Below threshold)
SarahConnor2:

Autism is the most extreme form of the pervasive developmental disorder (PDD) spectrum and the problem is that nowadays the term autism is used to describe people with varying severities of PDD. If Savage has spent any time with a child with an accurate diagnosis of autism, he should realize how ignorant his comments were. There are also extremely clear behavioral criteria for diagnosing autism; while blood or other lab tests are not used to diagnose it, that does not mean "There is no definitive medical diagnosis for autism".

I thought Ann Coulter was t... (Below threshold)
Abigail:

I thought Ann Coulter was the most hated conservative. Or are these two having a competition to see who can win that coveted position?

Sorry, but autism is ADD of... (Below threshold)

Sorry, but autism is ADD of the 2000s.

A guy who I used to work with had a daughter who held coversations, had friends in school, but the doctor worried was "austistic". The guy was a basket case, sending her to all sorts of tests (by definition if she was talking and had friends, then she didn't have this).

A friend's boy didn't talk to after he was two. Autism was thrown around. At eight today he is a bright, articulate kid. Worried the parents for nothing (he talked late - like Einstein)

And then you have all the moonbats who won't vaccinate their kids because of the so-called "autism-vaccination" link.

I'm sorry, but this is one "disease" that is thrown around like ADD - something to scare parents and then get their kids into treatment. This is a serious and debilitating problem, but I don't believe that it has grown by some 1000% in the last decade as some would have you believe.

What it does is belittle the poor people who do have the condition.

StevefromMKE,Rush ... (Below threshold)
Dave:

StevefromMKE,

Rush Limbaugh is undeniably a racist. If you support Rush, then you support racism. Here are some more racist comments from Rush Limbaugh.

"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back"

"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

"The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."

When the Carol Moseley-Braun was the first black woman ever elected to the US Senate Limbaugh kept playing the "Movin' On Up" theme song from TV's "Jeffersons".

Song on his web site about Reverand Al Sharpton:
"R-E-S-P-E-C-K. Wha-choo mean it ain't spelt that way? R-E-S-P-E-K-T? I need a dictionary!"

And don't forget Rush resigning from his ESPN post for making racially charged comments.

"KKK type song"...well i... (Below threshold)
Dave:

"KKK type song"...well it was the LA Times that called him the "magic negro" nitwit. It's called satire...look it up.

OK, I will look it up.

Racist - a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

Satire - the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.

Rush Limbough is definitely a racist satirist. He's using satire to make fun of black people. Simply saying it's a joke does not make it not racist. Where are your values man.

"Rush Limbaugh is undeni... (Below threshold)

"Rush Limbaugh is undeniably a racist."

That would be a surprise to "Mr. Snerdley". If you actually knew what you were talking about, you'd know who I'm referring to.

It would also be a shock to Walter E. Williams, a frequent guest host for Rush Limbaugh when Limbaugh is on vacation.

He also quotes Thomas Sowell quite frequently.

Would a racist work daily with a black person? Would a racist ask a black person to fill in for him at his job? Would a racist quote from and speak respectfully and reverently of a black person's work, regardless of whether he agrees with his opinions or not?

Most importantly, would these guys tolerate Limbaugh if Limbaugh really was a racist?

I don't think so.

Our first two children were... (Below threshold)
Alan Orfi:

Our first two children were diagosed as autistic. After much consultation with various experts, we adopted a "tough love" regimen not all that far from what Dr. Savage discussed. We also refused all medications related to the "autism". Two years later, both of our children are being homeschooled at home and testing above average. We spent virtually every waking hour with them and were "in their face" about every little detail at first, but were able to slowly ebb this micromanagment of their every action. This worked for us. I'm not saying there is no such thing as autism as Dr. Savage suggested, but we had our first two children labelled as such and they are now perfectly normal, interactive little kids.

I used to listen to him on ... (Below threshold)
BlueNight:

I used to listen to him on a fairly regular basis, but around 2004 or so, he turned into some bitter, broken old man.

In this case, he's wrong, but the people calling him on it are wrong too. Thomas Jefferson, who has been posthumously diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (like myself) turned out okay, but that doesn't mean he didn't have his difficulties.

Unfortunately, I was misdiagnosed with ADD/ADHD, and I was treated as a regular kid with behavioral issues, not a neurally-different kid with learning issues. I can "get" almost any theory you can throw at me, but I have no instincts for social appropriateness or social insight.

If I had been correctly diagnosed, I might have been a PhD by now, instead of working at a copy shop. Of course, that would have required our school district to have a FUNCTIONAL autism program.

CORRECT diagnosis is the first step toward an educational plan that results in a Jefferson.

C'mon Tom. Be serious. You ... (Below threshold)
Clay:

C'mon Tom. Be serious. You know that Mr. Snerdley, Walter E. Williams, and Thomas Sowell aren't really black men. They can't be.

Sheesh. Even Clarence Thomas is whiter than Edgar Winter.

Ask Sharpton. He'll tell you that no black man can be successful on his own merit. And these guys are successful...on their own. Impossible!

/sarc off/

If you support Rush, the... (Below threshold)
Clay:

If you support Rush, then you support racism.

What if you support Robert Byrd? How about Al Gore, Sr.?

Oh, and Cleavon Little in t... (Below threshold)
Clay:

Oh, and Cleavon Little in that satirical film Blazing Saddles. I think he thought he was funny.

Bart: Are we awake?
Jim: We're not sure. Are we... black?
Bart: Yes, we are.
Jim: Then we're awake... but we're very puzzled.

[Bart returns unexpectedly after being sentenced to death]
Charlie: They said you was hung.
Bart: And they was right.

Simply saying it's a joke does not make it not racist.

Preach it, brother.

Where are your values man.

Out with your humor? And they've been gone an awful long time.

"R-E-S-P-E-C-K. Wha-choo... (Below threshold)
Clay:

"R-E-S-P-E-C-K. Wha-choo mean it ain't spelt that way? R-E-S-P-E-K-T? I need a dictionary!"

That reminds me of Eddie Murphy's satirical character, Tyrone Greene:

"Images by Tyrone Greene"

Dark and lonely on a summer's night.
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking. Do he bite?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Slip in his window. Break his neck.
Then his house I start to wreck.
Got no reason. What the heck?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L my land lord!

Seriously, what were Little... (Below threshold)
Clay:

Seriously, what were Little and Murphy saying? Were they making fun of black people? Or is it that they were making fun of what people think of black people?

How about Limbaugh? Can you use your pea-brain and think of something else besides "he's making fun of black people"? Could he be saying that Jesse Jackson is more of a criminal than an advocate, because he's robbing young black men of a future while enslaving them to a life of victimhood? Could he simply be saying that Sharpton is an idiot who can't spell? Could he be saying that the NAACP's continued power base depends on the angst of young black men?

Who's the racist? Thomas Sowell or Jesse Jackson? Juan Williams calls out the so-called leaders of black activism for not challenging young black men to reach for their potential - and he's called Uncle Tom?

What a friggin' world.

Sorry, Cassy. I keep messin... (Below threshold)
Clay:

Sorry, Cassy. I keep messing up your comment threads.

Alright then. Carry on.

I have to conclude that ver... (Below threshold)

I have to conclude that very few of Wizbang's commenters have ever seen a kid diagnosed with autism.

"Mr. Savage, whose radio au... (Below threshold)
groucho:

"Mr. Savage, whose radio audience ranks in size behind only those of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity"

That's the scariest sentence in the whole piece.

"Mr. Savage, whose radio... (Below threshold)
Dave:

"Mr. Savage, whose radio audience ranks in size behind only those of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity"

Savage, Rush, Hannity they are all part of the looney right.

"I have to conclude that... (Below threshold)

"I have to conclude that very few of Wizbang's commenters have ever seen a kid diagnosed with autism."

Careful with that broad brush. One of my neighbor's kids has autism; he delivers the local newspaper. My wife is also an Occupational Therapist and has treated her fair share of autistic patients.

Perhaps I'm one of the "very few", but what makes the difference?

As far as Cassie's post goes, I've never been a Savage fan and this is a good example as to why.

"I have to conclude that... (Below threshold)
Dave:

"I have to conclude that very few of Wizbang's commenters have ever seen a kid diagnosed with autism."

You just now came to the conclusion that very few Wizbang commenters no what there talking about. Jeez, I've known that for months. Well, better late then never.

"You just now came to th... (Below threshold)

"You just now came to the conclusion that very few Wizbang commenters no what there (sic) talking about. Jeez, I've known that for months. Well, better late then never."

You're a glutton for punishment. First, I'll get the minor issue out of the way. Your usage of the word "there" is incorrect; you should've used the word "they're". Second, you attempted to label Limbaugh as a racist, but some irritating facts got in your way, and ironically, shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. Third, you resort to insults when you've lost the argument and have nothing better to say.

How embarrassing for you.

I forgot one thing Dave. Y... (Below threshold)

I forgot one thing Dave. Your use of the word "then" in the sentence above is incorrect as well. The correct usage is "than".

You sure are representing well.

The more I read posts like ... (Below threshold)
Baggi:

The more I read posts like this by "conservative" women, the more I lament at how weak and pacified we've become in the United States. All sorts of talk/dialoge is ruled out of bounds because of the sensitivity of women.

When will it stop?

How embarrassing for you... (Below threshold)
Clay:

How embarrassing for you.

He should be embarrassed, but I doubt he possesses the cognitive skills required to get there.

Tom,Nobody has pos... (Below threshold)
Dave:

Tom,

Nobody has posted anything that disputes that people who make racists comments are not racists. Hiring a handful of black employees does not change the fact that Rush Limbaugh regurely makes racists comments. And that my friend makes him a racist.