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Not only are there two Americas, but there seem to be two John Edwards, too

Remember the John Edwards/Rielle Hunter love child scandal that the National Enquirer reported last year? Edwards dismissed the accusation he was cheating as, "...false. It's completely untrue, ridiculous... Anyone who knows me knows that I have been in love with the same woman for 30 plus years."

Well, fast forward several months. Today the National Enquirer reports that their reporters actually witnessed former Senator John Edwards entering the Beverly Hilton at 9:45pm to visit Rielle Hunter and her new baby. Then at 2:40am, several National Enquirer reporters caught him sneaking out of the hotel and approached him to ask why he was visiting Hunter:

Edwards went out of the hotel briefly with Rielle, they were observed by the NATIONAL ENQUIRER and then went back to her room, where he stayed until attempting to sneak out of the hotel unseen at 2:40 a.m. (PST). But when he emerged alone from an elevator into the hotel basement he was greeted by several reporters from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

Senior NATIONAL ENQUIRER Reporter Alexander Hitchen asked Edwards why he was visiting Rielle and whether he was ready to confirm that he was the father of her baby.

Shocked to see a reporter, and without saying anything, Edwards ran up the stairs leading from the hotel basement to the lobby. But, spotting a photographer, he doubled back into the basement. As he emerged from the stairwell, reporter Butterfield questioned him about his hookup with Rielle.

Edwards did not answer and then ran into a nearby restroom. He stayed inside for about 15 minutes, refusing to answer questions from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER about what he was doing in the hotel. A group of hotel security men eventually escorted him from the men's room, while preventing the NATIONAL ENQUIRER reporters from following him out of the hotel.

Noting that the MSM had no problem reporting on the Rush Limbaugh/Oxycotin story that the National Enquirer also broke, Byron York questions whether the MSM outlets will even touch this one.


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"Noting that the MSM had no... (Below threshold)

"Noting that the MSM had no problem reporting on the Rush Limbaugh/Oxycotin story that the National Enquirer also broke, Byron York questions whether the MSM outlets will even touch this one."

Not.. a... chance....

Rush was a drug addict who ... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

Rush was a drug addict who advocates for strict punishment for narcotics offenders. Using several doctors to get overlapping prescriptions? Yeah, pretty sure there's laws against that, White Conservative Male Oprah! Whether selling crack on the street or doctor shopping for hillbilly heroin in Palm Beach, oughtn't he have done some time by his own reckoning?

Man, John Edwards has an expensive haircut! Would you be satisfied with one woman if you paid $500/month for a slick 'do?

Rush is an entertainment pe... (Below threshold)
Faith+1:

Rush is an entertainment personality and what he does or doesn't do is of no consequence. He is also a bad analogy to use for this discussion.

John Edwards, on the other hand, was the Democratic VP candidate and recent running candidate for the Presidential election.

The story is not whether he has a honey on the side. No one really cares.

The story is if John Edwards had an (R) after his name rather than (D) this would be front page news in every major PR Firm for the Democratic Party---oh wait, I meant to say "newspapers".

Their bias and lack of objectivity is so ridiculous as to be laughable. They are rapidly turning the profession of journalism into a disgraceful occupation. I'd place them somewhere on the respectability scale slightly higher than child molesters, but beneath con artists.

Sad when the shock rags hav... (Below threshold)
epador:

Sad when the shock rags have better investigative reporting than such icons as the LA or NY Time...

"Man, John Edwards has an e... (Below threshold)

"Man, John Edwards has an expensive haircut! Would you be satisfied with one woman if you paid $500/month for a slick 'do?"

Depends on the woman. But then again, if you're the sort of guy who would PAY $500 a month for a haircut, you'd likely see women as being disposable as kleenex... only noiser.

Man, it was bad enough when... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Man, it was bad enough when you were running with fake Drudge stories. Now your best source is the National Enquirer?

Would anyone care to explain how a "months-long NATIONAL ENQUIRER investigation" yielded the time and location of a secret rendezvous, "several reporters from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER" were on the scene (including a photographer), they observed Edwards in plain view multiple times, were able to approach him and ask him questions, had him cornered in a bathroom, witnessed him being escorted out... and they have not a single photograph to show for it?

Ah, never mind. Just keep citing the National Enquirer as your trusted source.

The MSM doesn't even try to... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

The MSM doesn't even try to say, 'look at the VRWC trying to tarnish poor Johnny'. They won't touch this one.

Their complete absence is telling.

Brian's point bothered me, ... (Below threshold)
jim2:

Brian's point bothered me, also.

No photograph? Was Edwards THAT quick so that there were no photographs?

Good pix of Edwards there would have been "blue dress" material. And the Enquirer would have known it.

Still, there are so MANY specifics to the printed story. Edwards is a lawyer. If the Enquirer has printed falsehoods, I would expect huge libel suits from Edwards. Soon.

I await how this will develop with great interest.

I think the Enquirer's MO i... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

I think the Enquirer's MO is to start the story then milk it. It is a filthy rag, but they do produce what they say most of the time, at least what I understand.

So, Edwards is schlepping some young thing while his wife is battling cancer. Only in the left side of the political arena. ww

The story is if John Edw... (Below threshold)
tas:

The story is if John Edwards had an (R) after his name rather than (D) this would be front page news in every major PR Firm for the Democratic Party---oh wait, I meant to say "newspapers".

Their bias and lack of objectivity is so ridiculous as to be laughable

Not to be rude, but I have to call bullshit on this one. Bill Clinton has a (D) after his name and the media had absolutely no problem whatsoever making his marriage infidelities arguably the biggest story of the 1990s. While Edwards doesn't carry that kind of star power, this story if true would sell papers and the MSM wouldn't have any qualms placing it above the fold.

If. It's. True.

The Limbaugh/Oxycotin story is a different case. While it was first reported by the National Enquirer, it was easily traceable -- there was an actual investigation into Limbaugh's drug habits that the MSM could confirm. Once it was confirmed, they ran with the story. If it wasn't confirmed, however, then printing the story invited libel lawsuits.

With Edwards, the National Enquirer only says that their reporters can confirm Edwards's behavior. Additionally, the web link to the article does not have any incriminating photos of Edwards. It's the Enquirers' word against Edwards -- and the Enquirer has been wrong quite a number of times. So who do you believe?

Brian, Kim's point was the ... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

Brian, Kim's point was the MSM's reliance on a National Enquirer story, giving it enough merit to investigate themselves, when the subject was Limbaugh and her expectancy that the Edwards' story will simply be brushed off as "coming from the National Enquirer". But you go ahead and pretend differently. It's what we expect from you.

Wow! A radio talk show host... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Wow! A radio talk show host gets MSM attention over his addiction to pain killers (ala every leftist star you can think of) constantly. Edwards high and mighty "two americas" do what I say not what I do attitude and you here crickets from the MSM. Before the leftists go nuts with the "everybody does it" routine, remember, the conservative point out the huge hypocrisy he presents. ww

Exactly, Oyster. Thank you... (Below threshold)
AJ:

Exactly, Oyster. Thank you, Brian, for demonstrating Kim's point to this post perfectly!

"So, Edwards is schlepping ... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

"So, Edwards is schlepping some young thing while his wife is battling cancer. Only in the left side of the political arena. ww

9. Posted by WildWillie | July 23, 2008 8:27 AM"

Well, no! Sounds an awful lot like Newt and one of his wives.

But, Newt wasn't allowed to pretend it didn't happen or subsequently make it all disappear. I'm not going to hold my breath to see if the Silky Pony is treated the same way.

Just to refresh some memori... (Below threshold)
glenn:

Just to refresh some memories the MSM had a great deal of trouble summoning up coverage of Bill Clintons many "indescretions" Reporters and staffers routinely witnessed and covered up incidents of "Big Bill" cozying up to some camp follower. When the Monica Lewinsky story broke the media already had Kathleen Willey as an example of BCs treatment of women. They (the media) chose to ignore the stories because Bill is a Democrat. They just couldn't ignore the Lewinsky story after it broke on Drudge. Too many "regular people" found out.

Wizbang and the Enquirer. W... (Below threshold)
jp2:

Wizbang and the Enquirer. What a combination!

I'll give Oyster the benefi... (Below threshold)
Brian:

I'll give Oyster the benefit of the doubt, as post #11 was just 7 minutes after #10's explanation for why the situations are different, and therefore why Kim's post, and Oyster's defense of it, are totally off the mark. However, AJ has no such excuse.

Oh please, Brian, don't giv... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

Oh please, Brian, don't give me the benefit of anything at all. I don't need your help or your pitiful adjournment for anything.

What I said was quite clear and concise AFTER reading comment #10. The fact is the MSM was quick to investigate the Limbaugh story; whether or not it was easily traceable (per Taz's remarks.) But I don't think anyone here would argue that even if it was hard to confirm, they would have pulled out all the stops to get to the bottom of it. Any "investigation" they did in the past about such an alleged Edwards affair resulted in mostly quoting Edwards.

Seconding #14, Willie, do y... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

Seconding #14, Willie, do you know who Newt Gingrich is? If so, what was his job when he definitely committed the same moral transgression that the Enquirer alleges former Senator John Edwards to have committed? Your selective outrage in this instance makes you look like a moron, as it were.

Hyper, #19, and the press r... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Hyper, #19, and the press raked Newt over the coals for it, and still do.
Gary Studds (D) can sodomize page, a minor, and get a pass.
Mark Foley (R) sends flirty (and pretty creepy) IMs to a page, and he is demonized.

Also, you do realize that #14 isn't making your argument? He points out WW is wrong about it only being on the left, but then makes the point that the press won't hold Edward's feet to even a heating pad unless they are forced to.

The fact is the MSM was ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

The fact is the MSM was quick to investigate the Limbaugh story; whether or not it was easily traceable

When there's an official criminal investigation in progress, it's pretty easy to confirm, regardless of who told you about it first.

I don't think anyone here would argue that even if it was hard to confirm...

OK, so the basis of your argument is supposition and hypothesis. Thanks for sharing.

Any "investigation" they did in the past about such an alleged Edwards affair resulted in mostly quoting Edwards.

How do you know? More supposition? Perhaps they also staked out Edwards' house and hotel transition route, and came away with the same hard evidence (zero photos, zero quotes from hotel guests) that the Enquirer did.

"When there's an officia... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

"When there's an official criminal investigation in progress, it's pretty easy to confirm,"

Oddly enough, I didn't deny this in any fashion.

"Perhaps they also staked out Edwards' house and hotel transition route, and came away with the same hard evidence (zero photos, zero quotes from hotel guests) that the Enquirer did."

Supposition and hypothesis to frame your argument? Say it ain't so.

SCSI, Willie said Only i... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

SCSI, Willie said Only in the left side of the political arena. That was false, and obviously so. His moral outrage was selective. My point stands, but it's nice of you to stick up for someone who has no idea what a cogent argument looks like.

Oddly enough, I didn't d... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Oddly enough, I didn't deny this in any fashion.

In a way, you did. You said "The fact is the MSM was quick to investigate the Limbaugh story", a fact you conclude because they reported on it. And the implication is that you conclude the MSM was not quick to investigate Edwards because they haven't reported on it. So it did seem necessary to point out to you that another explanation is that one was confirmed and one wasn't.

Supposition and hypothesis to frame your argument? Say it ain't so.

It ain't. That was sarcasm. I'll try to keep my rhetorical devices simpler for you.




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