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Hey, another "boys are stupid" post!

There was a shooting at a school in Tennessee, where a 15-year-old freshman walked calmly up to another student, and shot him in the chest. He then walked away. This is a horrible tragedy, obviously, but a blogger, Katie Allison Granju (never heard of her until now) has figured out why this happened. It's because teenage boys are stupid!

Teenage boys are idiots. And today's American teenage boys - whom our culture holds in a sort of manchild limbo long past the age they need to be doing some sort of hard work and earning their keep - are even bigger idiots.

By the time a male is about 16 years old, he has the body of an adult male, an adult male with a brain under assault by a dramatic rush of hormones the likes of which he'll never again see during any other period of his lifetime. Teenage boys are more impulsive and aggressive than any other group. WItness their penchant for crashing cars, diving headfirst into rock quarries, experimenting with drugs, and deciding to "play chicken" by draping themselves across dark country roads in an attempt to prove something to their similarly stupid peers.They are driven by sexual curiosity to the point of insanity, and they hold a misguided sense of immortality.

Yes, I'm generalizing. Many teenage boys are polite, respectful, accomplished individuals, but those of them who are are pulling this off are doing so by fighting the natural impulses to be idiots that threaten to overtake them every day.

There is, perhaps, no other single group in American life less suited to have access to handguns than teenage boys. Which leads me to the primary question I have yet to see answered regarding yesterday's tragic shooting at Central High School. Where did the boy get that gun? I want to know the provenance of that gun, and if evidence is found that any adult knowingly or very negligently allowed that kid to get his hands on that gun, that adult deserves to be sitting behind bars this morning along with the boy who fired the shot.

Teenage boys are stupid.

So are the adults who allow them to get their hands on guns.


I'll admit it, I pretty much wanted to smack this blogger. Hard.

These kinds of people -- mostly women -- bother the hell out of me. OMIGOD! Teenage boys are, like, SO stupid! They're irresponsible! They're reckless! YEARRGHH!

Can the people who come up with this crap, just once, come up with an original thought? Please?

Yes, teenage boys tend to be more of the daredevil type. Yes, they do stupid things sometimes and take stupid risks. They also tend to be exceedingly loyal and I've found them to be rather considerate and great friends. Unlike teenage girls, may I point out.

I had many more guy friends in high school than girl friends. Part of this was because I participated in a male-dominated sport (crew), but another part of it was that I wasn't interested in having a lot of girlfriends. I had a few, but by and large I didn't get along with a lot of girls. Why? Because girls are vicious, jealous, backstabbing bitches in high school. They're two-faced and evil and mean. Hell hath no fury like a teenage girl. Teenage boys, at least, stick with their friends through and through. Even when they get into a fight, they'll duke it out and then ten minutes later, be best friends again. So simple. So uncomplicated. No three hour conversations about who screwed who over first or why such-and-such's boyfriend was MY boyfriend first and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Piss off a teenage girl and it's never a ten minute fight. She won't try to kick your ass, but she will try to ruin your life. She will poison every well, spread as many rumors as possible, and in general try to make your life as miserable as possible. I don't care if saying this pisses people off, because it's the truth. Sure, there are exceptions, but teenage girls simply tend to be not very nice people.

Let me give you an example of how vicious girls can be. I was going to play in my high school's annual Powderpuff football game. Every year, it's the junior girls vs. the senior girls, and every year the seniors win. Well, my senior year rolled around and the junior girls were making a lot of noise about how the game had been fixed all this time, and this year they were finally going to win. It got the entire school talking. So, in our next senior girls planning meeting, what was decided? That the juniors needed to be taught a lesson. A pot was passed around, and everyone was asked to throw in money. The senior girl who drew the most blood from the juniors would win the entire pot.

I promptly quit.

Teenage guys, while reckless and daring, are by far less cruel than girls are.

My brother is a good example for this. He was definitely one of the stupider kids on the block when it came to doing dumb shit. You could dare him to do anything, and he would. He had scars all over his body from getting hurt, but usually after he got hurt he'd just pop back up and do it again. He did a lot of BMX in high school, was pretty good at it, and even built his own ramps in a sandlot behind a church for him and his friends. They were constantly falling down, breaking bones, bleeding, bruising, and in general hurting themselves. But they were boys. And that's how boys are.

Although, I will say, I didn't know of a whole lot of diving headfirst into rock quarries. That one, I think, must be some kind of phenomenon that only happens to teenage boys the author knows, because I sure as hell have never heard of it.

Anyway, my brother was also one of the sweetest, kindest people you ever could meet. He treated his girlfriend, Becky, like a princess. He was one of the most loyal people I ever knew. And he volunteered every summer at Camp I Am Special, a summer camp for disabled children, even taking a lifeguard position there so he could spend more time with the kids there. He had a big heart. And he wasn't an anomaly.

Of course, according to Ms. Boys Are Stupid over there, that meant he was fighting the natural impulse all boys have to be stupid tooth and nail. I guess according to her, teenager boys are idiotic creatures with very few things running through their pathetic little minds (sex, drugs, and do dumb shit). I really, really hope this woman doesn't have any male offspring. How would she explain this to them when they become teenagers?

And of course, there's the whole "access to guns" schtick thrown in there, too. Because, you know, once the gun was put into this reckless and stupid boy's hands, he suddenly was a man possessed and completely not in control of his actions. If only he hadn't have had access to a gun, he never would've had the will to murder.

Christ almighty. Why is it that liberals are so anxious to blame the gun? Or society? Or anything beyond the sick individual who pulled the trigger? That gun did not cause the murder of an innocent teenger, a sick twisted screw-up of a human being did. But oh, no. Teenage boys must never, EVER have access to guns because if they did, they'd all go on murderous rampages!

Of course, I guess giving them access to guns in a safe environment, under strict supervision, where they can learn to use them properly and respect the danger of weapons would just be terrible. TERRIBLE. It's far better to just keep them away from them altogether.

I mean, seriously -- no one wants teenagers to have unlimited access to guns. That's why you have to be over a certain age to buy a gun. That's why there are regulations as to who can own a gun. I don't disagree with that. But, you know, it's pretty ridiculous to say that parents shouldn't allow their kids to touch a gun with a ten-foot-pole is a good idea.

Let's just call this tragedy what it really is. Some asshole had problems with an innocent kid, and because he's twisted in the head, he murdered him. It's not the gun's fault. And it isn't yet another example of how stupid teenage boys are. Sure, teenage boys act like idiots sometimes, but everyone does. It doesn't mean they are idiots. Saying that teenage boys who are polite, decent, courteous, kind, and caring people are abnormal and weird is rude and wrong. Very, very wrong.

But this kind of hyperbole from women is accepted now, isn't it? It's OK for women to bash men left and right. It's OK for women to talk about how horrible the male gender is. Not enough women stand up and say how wrong it is, and not enough men defend themselves. Too many of us, male and female, let this kind of thing just happen without complaint. Well, not me. I won't just sit there and let these women think they're speaking in my name.

Yes, there are some teenage boys who do awful things like this. There are also some teenage girls who do terrible things (remember the YouTube fighting incident?). And hey, guess what? There are adult men and women who do terrible things. Whaddya know? There are crappy people in the world. Saying it's normal for a certain demographic is wrong and offensive. These kinds of people are in the minority, regardless of their age or gender. To say otherwise, as this idiot blogger did, is wrong and irresponsible at the absolute least. But of course, you're allowed to put down boys and men. Substitute "teenage boys" with "girls", "blacks", "gays", "muslims", or any other minority, and the backlash would be unbelievable. She'd be fired, no doubt about it. And it'd be just as wrong as her thesis that all teenage boys are stupid is.

How much longer will we tolerate hateful women like this one putting down boys and men? It isn't OK. It has an impact. And it needs to stop. We should be just as offended. We should be just as outraged. There's no place for this kind of thing in our society today, and we shouldn't let this happen anymore. Unfortunately, we just sit there and meekly take it. Ladies, these are your husbands, sons, fathers, and brothers that are being slandered. We need to let our voices be louder than those of the screeching hate harpies.

But hey, this author need not fear. If Maureen Dowd ever retires, there's surely a position open for her at the New York Times.

Hat Tip: InstaPundit


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Comments (21)

To the usual plethora (I th... (Below threshold)
retired military:

To the usual plethora (I think that is spelled right) of antigun nuts who will post about gun control laws, answer this question.

If he had walked up to the kid and stabbed him in the heart with a knife, pencil, sharp piece of metal, etc and killed him would you be in favor of making knives, pencils, sharp pieces of metal illegal?

By the time a male... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
By the time a male is about 16 years old, he has the body of an adult male... Teenage boys are more impulsive and aggressive than any other group. WItness their penchant for crashing cars, diving headfirst into rock quarries, experimenting with drugs,... in an attempt to prove something to their similarly stupid peers. They... hold a misguided sense of immortality.

Exactly the group of people you want to give guns to when the survival of your nation is under threat. You know, so that some spoiled sexist brat has the freedom to denigrate those who purchased her freedom with their blood.

Jay,I think you mi... (Below threshold)
Vanessa:

Jay,

I think you misunderstood teenage girls. When I was in school there were plenty of us who stuck together. There was also sexism. I also remember that girls were treated like pieces of meat. Girls were "sluts."

Perhaps your relationship with other teenage boys was so simple and uncomplicated because your life, your existence, was simple and uncomplicated. In order to understand where the author is coming from, you may consider being slightly more reflective and open-minded. It wouldn't hurt her to take the same advice.

Cassie: You are a goddess. ... (Below threshold)
Paden Cash:

Cassie: You are a goddess. The only place I have a slight disagreement with you is about the need to keep weapons away from teenage boys. In todays culture you are absolutely correct. I'm 60 and I got my first gun when I was about 8. A .22 single shot that I kept in my closet, with a big bag of ammo. My parents didn't particularly train me on the proper use of firearms. I was trained (at some pain to myself) on decent behavior in general. It is not that I never wanted to shoot anyone, I just knew better. Through hunting and target practice with my father, I learned proper firearm safety. With children being not being taught, with the credible threat of force as 1 means of correction, to be decent human beings, I wouldn't let them have firearms either. These kids killing each other happens as a result of poor parenting. Period

Vanessa, I think y... (Below threshold)
Chip:

Vanessa,

I think you misunderstood exactly who wrote this post.

Cassy,Amen to everyt... (Below threshold)
SarahConnor2:

Cassy,
Amen to everything you said. Most of my friends in high school were guys because they were more honest and less manipulative in friendships. No one taught me this-I learned it through experience as a girl in middle school and high school. Most of my good female friendships developed once we were all older.

I have two sons. They know better than to use guns to solve a problem because (gasp!), we've taught them that and devoted our parental lives to making sure we spend time with them and raise them well. It's not boys, it's their parents that are the problem.

If he had walked up to t... (Below threshold)
Brian:

If he had walked up to the kid and stabbed him in the heart with a knife, pencil, sharp piece of metal, etc and killed him would you be in favor of making knives, pencils, sharp pieces of metal illegal?

That's not the measure, and it's dishonest to suggest it is.

What if he wanted to walk up to him and shoot him with a shoulder-launched missile, but damn it, shoulder-launched missiles are illegal for him to have! Would you be in favor of making shoulder-launched missiles legal for 15 year olds?

Excellent post. You describ... (Below threshold)

Excellent post. You described the boys pretty well. Granju claims to have a teenage son, poor boy. She thinks gives her some sort of authority. What it really means is that another boy is probably being raised with the lesson being beat into his head that boys are bad.

Brian,Wha... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Brian,

What if he wanted to walk up to him and shoot him with a shoulder-launched missile, but damn it, shoulder-launched missiles are illegal for him to have! Would you be in favor of making shoulder-launched missiles legal for 15 year olds?

It's obvious RM (retired military) wasn't talking about making handguns illegal for 15 year-olds as they already are. He's argument seems to be that it's pointless to make things illegal in our society just because some foolish kids find ways to kill themselves or others with it. Look at the extend prisons must go to in order to keep weapons out of the hands of inmates. They can't even serve T-bone or Porterhouse steaks because some inmates will smuggle the bones out of the cafeteria and make shanks out of them.

Liberals talk a lot about civil rights, yet they seem to be first in line to outlaw objects, or in this case, punish others for owning objects that someone else uses in a crime. If some foreign power tried to impose such rules on our society we would send off thousands of teenage boys to die on distant battlefields to protect our freedoms and we would consider their shed blood the cost of freedom. Yet some among us are ready to self-impose tyranny a little at a time to save far less blood.

There was a report in today... (Below threshold)

There was a report in today's albany area paper of a another teenaged girl stabbing someone in the street. Seems to happen a lot around here. No marches in the streets or constitutional lawsuits to ban knives, yet. Just a matter of time, I'm sure.

"Would you be in favor of m... (Below threshold)
retired military:

"Would you be in favor of making shoulder-launched missiles legal for 15 year olds?
"

Brian (or is it Dick), I get the 2 of mixed up since I think it was you two that posted the same thing under names, watch this.

The answer is NO. (Hyperboli please take note. Question asked, question answered).

Shoulder launched missiles are something for wartime and as such should remain in the purview of the military.

Now I answered YOUR YES OR NO QUESTION. SO PLEASE ANSWER MINE.


MacLorry said"He's... (Below threshold)
retired military:

MacLorry said

"He's argument seems to be that it's pointless to make things illegal in our society just because some foolish kids find ways to kill themselves or others with it."

Close MacLorry. My point actually is that people will break the law if they have a mind to. It doesnt matter what it takes to do it as long as they have the will. Destroy every gun on the face of the earth and people will still murder with swords, knives, axes, etc. 15 year olds can own guns (I believe) legally. But a murderer will kill with whatever they have at hand at the time.

Punishing everyone for the lawlessness of a few is wrong.

He's argument seems to b... (Below threshold)
Brian:

He's argument seems to be that it's pointless to make things illegal in our society just because some foolish kids find ways to kill themselves or others with it.

Yes, that was exactly his argument. I was just showing how silly it was, since no one has ever made the argument that he seems to be trying to counter. Shoulder-launched missiles are illegal for private ownership for reasons other than "just because some foolish kids find ways to kill themselves or others with it".

Now I answered YOUR YES ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Now I answered YOUR YES OR NO QUESTION. SO PLEASE ANSWER MINE.

OK, the answer is NO. Though your question was preposterous, based on a position never espoused by anyone. But if you actually took yourself seriously and expected an answer, there you go.

My wife and I raised two gi... (Below threshold)
tyree:

My wife and I raised two girls and three boys. The girls were subjected to the more abuse, from girls and women than the boys were from boys and men.
The one bullying incident my oldest boy ran into stopped when he demonstrated the willingness to fight back. He grew 5 inches the next year and no more problems. A boy with two brothers becomes sort of bully proof once the the bad guys they can, and will fight back.

The youngest girl, on the other hand was bullied by other girls and teachers for years. After she switched schools the girls called her new friends to tell them the "truth" about her. Teachers treated her like she was too pretty to be smart and wrote her up for infractions even when they couldn't decide if she had done anything wrong.

Ms. Granju should have stuck with issues in her pay grade.

The youngest girl, on th... (Below threshold)
RFA:

The youngest girl, on the other hand was bullied by other girls and teachers for years.15.
Posted by tyree | August 23, 2008 5:47 PM

Same story at my house. We had one teacher who was so ugly with a child we had a conference with the Principal and the beeeotch and received an apology from both.

The rumor leaked around and the teacher had plenty of `splainin to do about the way she had treated other girls in her classes. To be fair tho I think she was a frustrated old witch and treated everybody with the same sort of meanness.

Brian"Yes, that wa... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Brian

"Yes, that was exactly his argument. I was just showing how silly it was, since no one has ever made the argument that he seems to be trying to counter. Shoulder-launched missiles are illegal for private ownership for reasons other than "just because some foolish kids find ways to kill themselves or others with it"."

Actually as I said. That wasnt my argument. The reason I asked it was that it seems most of the times when an incident happens some liberal will get up and shoot his or her mouth off about stronger gun control laws and totally ignoring the fact that the person doing the shooting had already broken one or more laws. Therefore my question was not silly but only served to show how silly the thinking process is of people whose answer to gun violence is making more laws. Making knives, pencils, and sharp pieces of metal illegal would be about as effective at stopping a future incident as those new laws and would inconvenience more people instead of helping them.

Bravo for answering a yes or no question. At least you seem to realize that throwing more laws at a problem will generally not solve the problem. Now if other liberals would apply that logic towards throwing more money at problems to feel good instead of actually trying what works to solve a problem then maybe we could get somewhere.

Excellent post Cassy!... (Below threshold)
epador:

Excellent post Cassy!

Cassy,You rock!</p... (Below threshold)
Imhotep:

Cassy,

You rock!

4H and my dead Uncle Bob taught me more about fire arms and gun safety than boot camp.

Actually, People kill people, not guns!

A person has serious sociopathy to cold bloodedly shoot someone in the chest and walk away passively.

RM, your argument might be ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

RM, your argument might be effective if it was addressing anything anyone anywhere might have ever suggested was their rationale for proposing stronger gun control. But since no one has, you're just arguing a strawman.

BrianIn case you d... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Brian

In case you didnt notice my post was a preemptive strike. I guess you either missed that part or else didnt understand the concept.

" if it was addressing anything anyone anywhere might have ever suggested was their rationale for proposing stronger gun control


Since you said "anyone, anywhere" then I can point you to the thousands of quotations from various liberals who in response to someone dying after being shot, proposing more gun control laws to prevent future incidents. Do you really want to go there and looking REALLY REALLY STUPID?

Now if you had said in this thread you may have had a point except, for the fact that as I said above, my post was a preemptive strike to stop the usual hogwash of antigun comments. And hey so far it has worked just fine.





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