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Powerful Ad Hits Obama Hard

On August 21st in post about the Obama Campaign's using McCain's wealth against him, I referenced Barack Obama's brother, George, who is living in a hut in Kenya and contrasted his treatment of his own flesh and blood with the McCains' treatment of two sick baby girls from Bangladesh who were not their flesh and blood. The McCains adopted one and one of McCain's aids adopted the other.

In an ad running today the Texas Republican Party is referencing George Obama as well, and it hits hard:

Hat tip: Hot Air.


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But but but but, there's h... (Below threshold)
epador:

But but but but, there's hope and change and all that!

Wow! It took all of 7 secon... (Below threshold)
Rance:

Wow! It took all of 7 seconds before the obligitory "John McCain was a POW" appeared.

Hit, that's a hit ... and I... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Hit, that's a hit ... and I see secondary explosions. BDA should confirm a lot of damage from that one ...

" Hello. My name is John Ke... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

" Hello. My name is John Kerry and I am reporting for duty." "I served proudly in Vietnam". "Did you hear I served in Vietnam?"

Rance, your people perfected the Vietnam saga. Now there is actually a hero using it.

Obama is an empty, unprincipled man. ww

Like Al Gore, Obama believe... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Like Al Gore, Obama believes in "Do as I say, not as I do."

WildWillie,Have yo... (Below threshold)
Rance:

WildWillie,

Have you seen the Katie Couric interview?

She asked him to explain why he was at a loss when asked about the number of houses he owned. I thought he gave a pretty good answer, except that he prefaced the whole thing with "I was a POW and my father-in-law was a war hero".

As the old saying goes, "What does that have do do with the price of tea in China?"

Is his POW history going to be the basis for his whole administration?

As far as "My people" and Vietnam, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Rance is unhappy because th... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Rance is unhappy because there really is no way for Obama to get around the 'service' and 'sacrifice' qualifications - McCain clearly served and sacrificed, Obama clearly has done neither.

I recognize that McCain "se... (Below threshold)
Rance:

I recognize that McCain "served and sacrificed" but explain what that has to do with Obama's half-brother's finances, or the number of houses he owns. It's a non sequitur.

It's highlighting what McCa... (Below threshold)
D-Hoggs:

It's highlighting what McCain has given to his family and country, and the fact that Obama is trying to attack McCain for living the American dream, a dream that he earned. Hardly a non sequitur, just over your head apparently.

Rance:It has about... (Below threshold)
epador:

Rance:

It has about as much to do as any of the other tripe either candidate is trotting out for themselves and against their opponent. What does sex have to do with selling anything but Viagra? It used from Coke to cars to insurance ads. What do cavemen have to do with car insurance? But they appear in ads. This was a political ad, its going to use whatever hooks it can to promote the candidate its for and denigrate the opponent. BFD, a distraction from any response to the main message of the ad, and a typical whiny holier/smarter/wittier than thou attitude.

BTW, what has the OB said about the promise to help a school in Africa, or his brother, which are both topics that have been repeatedly brought up? THAT would be an appropriate response for you to plug in response to this posting.

D-Hoggs,I believe ... (Below threshold)
Rance:

D-Hoggs,

I believe that the sub-text of the "how many houses" flap, is not that McCain is rich, but that he is out of touch. A response to the same accusation being leveled at Obama for eating arugula. It my opinion, both are irrelevant.

The arguments in the campaign should be "I will give you a stronger economy because [ put economic program here]", or "I will be a better Commander in Chief because [put defense policy here]", not "I served and suffered, so America owes me".

Having served an suffered is an honorable thing, but it doesn't balance the budget, reduce unemployment, end the mortgage crisis, etc. It's in the past, tell us about the future.

The arguments in t... (Below threshold)
Chip:
The arguments in the campaign should be "I will give you a stronger economy because [ put economic program here]", or "I will be a better Commander in Chief because [put defense policy here]

Rance,

When Obama says he'll help out a school in Africa and then doesn't tells me he won't stand by anything he says, not that that's the only thing I've seen him renig on. When John McCain says he'll do anything for this country, from his service and sacrifice I know I can believe him.

This is really downright ev... (Below threshold)

This is really downright evil for this ghoulish ad to take advantage of a tragic childhood for Barack Obama. Obama's father divorced his White mother when was just two years old and Obama only saw his father once after moved to Kenya and remarried a Black woman from Kenya before he was killed in a 1982 automobile accident.

Barack Obama was largely raised by his maternal grandparents. Obama had no knowledge of any relatives in Kenya until only very recently when he became aware of some offspring by way of a stepmother whom he never met until only very recently and her stepson, George, whom he had never met before either.

It's pretty difficult to do anything to help some relatives living in a distant land if you don't even know that they exist. This ad is just plain wrong and deserves to backfire on McCain. No right thinking person should ever run campaign ads taking advantage of someone's tragic childhood. This is just plain wrong.

Ads like this have nothing to do with political issues and are just plain demon inspired to say the very least, displaying character attack politics at it's most base level. If McCain wants to win so bad that his supporters have to run ads like this, then God save their souls. Certainly John McCain's wife has a very charitable streak, and that is to be greatly admired. But that has absolutely no comparison to Obama's tragic childhood and his own struggle to attend law school, teach law, run for president. If anything that is a story about overcoming a disadvantaged past to be admired.

Obama offended Jesse Jackson who fathered a child out of wedlock when he called on men to step up and take some responsibility. Divorce and a broken family caused Barack Obama a great deal of pain while growing up as a child. He had every right to condemn such conduct.

It's in the past, ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
It's in the past, tell us about the future.

It's the past that tells us about the future. With McCain we know from his past that he's willing to sacrifice for the nation. With McCain we know from his past that he puts his money where his mouth is when it comes to taking care of the poor. That's why McCain's past is something to bring up in this campaign.

Unlike Obama who needs to hide his past because it doesn't match with his campaign slogans nor his polished image.

Give me a break Hooson, tra... (Below threshold)
Chip:

Give me a break Hooson, tragic childhood my tail feather. I've heard worse stories and seen people better themselves from worse situations. Hell Hooson the entire history of America is built on stories worse than Obama's. Please give us all a freakin break.
And Rance, when the hell does Amrica owe one of it's own if not for their service. I'm so sick and tired of hearing people saying America owes us Healthcare, Welfare, Foodstamps, Housing. Oh woe is me I lived in a bowl surrounded by water and a hurricane flooded me out of my home, America owes me. Oh boo freaking hoo.

Um Paul ... Senator Obama k... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Um Paul ... Senator Obama knew about his brother in Kenya in between the time he made millions off his books, and the time he started running for President. So, just answer the question, why didn't he do anything to help his brother at that time? Why hasn't Barack Obama paid any of the money he promised for the school named after him?

These are not "ghoulish" questions, they are relevant and significant indicators about what sort of character lives inside Barack Obama's expensive suits. And Obama is failing badly in his answers.

Paul,Obam... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Paul,

Obama had no knowledge of any relatives in Kenya until only very recently when he became aware of some offspring by way of a stepmother whom he never met until only very recently and her stepson, George, whom he had never met before either.

That's not what George says in this interview.

He has only met his famous older brother twice - once when he was just five and the last time in 2006 when Senator Obama was on a tour of East Africa and visited Nairobi.

The Illinois senator mentions his brother in his autobiography, describing him in just one passing paragraph as a "beautiful boy with a rounded head".

Of their second meeting, George Obama said: "It was very brief, we spoke for just a few minutes. It was like meeting a complete stranger."

"Divorce and a broken famil... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

"Divorce and a broken family caused Barack Obama a great deal of pain while growing up as a child. He had every right to condemn such conduct." And at the same time he was still confused as to who contributed more to his life: his white grandmother or reverend Wright. That's all I needed to know.

Why hasn't Barack Obama ... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Why hasn't Barack Obama paid any of the money he promised for the school named after him?

A person's past is a predictor of what they'll do in the future - unless they decide to do something else. Right now, Barak's promising everything to everyone - it would be smart to see how well he kept a much smaller promise.

Again, Rance, I have to lis... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Again, Rance, I have to list the liberal left in qualifications for being Commander and Chief. How many times have we heard Bush didn't serve in the military so he has no business overseeing a war, etc. Over and over again. Now the left is saying loudly, it doesn't have anything to do with it. You guys are just crazy. McCain sacrificed in ways I can never do. I have said before, I disagree with him on some issues, but I have always respected him. He is a cut above the average American. ww

Chip,If you reread... (Below threshold)
Rance:

Chip,

If you reread my post, you will see that I think that McCain's service was admirable and the country owes him a debt of gratitude.

It just doesn't owe him the presidency based with him making a solid case for it. "Elect John McCain, he was a POW and the other guy wasn't" is not a solid platform.

Rance, You mean li... (Below threshold)
Chip:

Rance,

You mean like Obama is entitled to the Presidency because of his race, or Hillary because of her gender or John Kerry was in Viet Nam, (John Kerry Reporting for duty) and George Bush didn't serve?

You mean those kinds of solid platforms.

"Elect John McCain... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
"Elect John McCain, he was a POW and the other guy wasn't"

It's not so much that McCain was a POW, but that he willing put himself in harms way to serve this nation. It's also about how McCain acted honorably as a POW in spite of his injuries, torture and an easy way out he refused to take. That's what's being compared to the empty suit known as Obama.

You're still ducking it, Ra... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

You're still ducking it, Rance. It's an annoying fact of political life, that to be effective something has to be said over and over again. After all, that's why Obama tries so hard to work "hope" and "change" into almost everything he says - it's his spiel. Well, one of the big differences between Obama and McCain, is not only that McCain served in the military during the ugliest war in contemporary memory, but he was an icon of honor and sacrifice during the five-plus years he was a POW. Even people who cannot stand his politics have admitted the singular courage and patriotism of the man, and what his leadership meant in that time and place.

It's relevant to the question, because Obama falsely tried to paint McCain as a dishonorable man just for being financially successful. The POW story refutes that, in a way Obama cannot answer, so of course McCain will bring it up. It's a legitimate and effective tool for Senator McCain, and everyone knows it.

Chip,No, I don't. ... (Below threshold)
Rance:

Chip,

No, I don't. I don't think that either arguement is worth a bucket of warm spit.

Mac Lorry,

So we know how President McCain would act if imprisoned and tortured. I hope we never have to face that possibility, it doesn't bode well for the country.

What does a high tolerance of pain say about taxation, foreign policy, or trade negotiations?

D J,

I won't bite on that whole "Class Warfare" pile of crap. Again, being rich, it's whether or not he's in touch with the situation of the common man.

As for being successful, I believe it was his father-in-law who was successful. Like Kerry, he just married into it.


Now you're showing your pis... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Now you're showing your piss-side, Rance. You say you won't place 'class war', then imply that McCain is less "in touch" with regular people than Obama?

Really now, you are letting yourself get flustered. I'd suggest you just let go and move on, because your arguments are just getting pissier and pissier.

What we know, is that John McCain's values are something he cared enough about, that he endured torture and captivity rather than break his oath. We know Obama made a number of promises which sounded good (like helping the Obama school) but which he never bothered to keep.

Honor counts, sir, and only one of the two nominees has shown it clearly.

"Elect Barrack Obama becaus... (Below threshold)
Baron Von Ottomatic:

"Elect Barrack Obama because he's a hip black man who speaks vaguely with the most liberal voting record in the Senate plus rolling paper-thin experience and the other guy isn't." doesn't strike me as a solid platform either...

So, just answer the ques... (Below threshold)
Brian:

So, just answer the question, why didn't he do anything to help his brother at that time?

Just answer these questions... is his brother worthy of helping? Is he a hard working man trying to create a better life for his family? Is he a bum expecting his rich brother to give him handouts?

Of their second meeting, George Obama said: "It was very brief, we spoke for just a few minutes. It was like meeting a complete stranger."

This ad obviously works, as... (Below threshold)

This ad obviously works, as demonstrated by the response in this thread. Hopefully the Texas Republicans will recycle it through the campaign.

epador, your right on in #10!


That McCain was a POW is an inherently aggravating fact to libs, hence it is reason enough to bring it up in any venue, on any topic.

These are not "ghoulish"... (Below threshold)
Brian:

These are not "ghoulish" questions, they are relevant and significant indicators about what sort of character lives inside Barack Obama's expensive suits. And Obama is failing badly in his answers.

What answers does McCain have about the treatment of Cindy's sisters? Is that not an indicator of his character?

At least Obama acknowledges his brother exists. The McCains don't even do that much.

Indeed Brian, why does Bara... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Indeed Brian, why does Barack consider his brother to be "like ... a complete stranger"?

Is he a hard working ... (Below threshold)

Is he a hard working man trying to create a better life for his family? Is he a bum expecting his rich brother to give him handouts?

Sounds like an indictment of the entire US entitlement budget.

Wow Brian, why don't you just tell the guy to get a job.

Hilarious.

... and Brian, one would ho... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

... and Brian, one would hope that you could grasp the difefrence between a nominee's wife, and the nominee himself. Perhaps that is too much for you, hmm, although I expect you would (and perhaps already have?) said that criticism of Michelle Obama was out of line.

But again, perhaps concepts like reciprocity and consistency are, hmm, above your pay grade?

Just answer these questi... (Below threshold)
cirby:

Just answer these questions... is his brother worthy of helping? Is he a hard working man trying to create a better life for his family? Is he a bum expecting his rich brother to give him handouts?

The entire platform of the American Left is based on "we're going to make you help a bunch of useless people you've never met and aren't even related to."

So when Obama personally PROMISED to help build that school in his brother's home town (and never did a thing), that really does matter.

I'm actually surprised that he didn't arrange for US government money to pay for that school instead.

After all, that's why O... (Below threshold)
Brian:

After all, that's why Obama tries so hard to work "hope" and "change" into almost everything he says - it's his spiel.

Yes, just like McCain and being a POW 35 years ago.

Well, one of the big differences between Obama and McCain, is not only that McCain served in the military during the ugliest war in contemporary memory, but he was an icon of honor and sacrifice during the five-plus years he was a POW.

Ah, banging the POW drum yourself, eh?

Even people who cannot stand his politics have admitted the singular courage and patriotism of the man, and what his leadership meant in that time and place.

Few deny that. They just wonder what being a POW 35 years ago has to do with qualifications for being president. Has he done anything since then, or is that all he has to run on?

It's relevant to the question, because Obama falsely tried to paint McCain as a dishonorable man just for being financially successful.

Uh, first of all, the rich/elitist meme has nothing to do with being "dishonorable". Where the heck are you even getting that from? And secondly, it was McCain who drew the first sword in that battle. Don't get all crybaby on Obama for responding.

The POW story refutes that

Refutes that he's rich? Refutes that he's out of touch? Actually, it's the opposite. Anytime McCain brings up being a POW, it's because he has no other answer.

So we know how Pre... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
So we know how President McCain would act if imprisoned and tortured. I hope we never have to face that possibility, it doesn't bode well for the country.

What does a high tolerance of pain say about taxation, foreign policy, or trade negotiations?

I hope you're only pretending to be that stupid. McCain's character has been proven under extreme conditions, that even under such temptation to benefit himself, he put other's first. If you don't understand why that's such an important quality for being President than perhaps you're not pretending being stupid after all.

Brian, You just bl... (Below threshold)
Chip:

Brian,

You just blew that whole windfall profits tax idea out the window for the left.

Those secondary explosions ... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Those secondary explosions I mentioned? Seems Brian and Rance count for two of 'em.

heh.

Indeed Brian, why does B... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Indeed Brian, why does Barack consider his brother to be "like ... a complete stranger"?

Umm, because his father left when he was two, moved to Kenya, fathered another child, and then died, and Obama's had no meaningful contact with him since then. Were you not aware of all that?

one would hope that you could grasp the difefrence between a nominee's wife, and the nominee himself.

Of course I do. What's your point? It's OK to pretend Cindy's sisters don't exist because she says so?

But again, perhaps concepts like reciprocity and consistency are, hmm, above your pay grade?

No, although by your own comments, you appear to not know what those words mean.

What answers does McCain... (Below threshold)
Stormin:

What answers does McCain have about the treatment of Cindy's sisters? Is that not an indicator of his character?

At least Obama acknowledges his brother exists. The McCains don't even do that much.

Obviously, Brian isn't married or deal with step brother/sister relationship, or this question wouldn't come up. If your wife isn't getting along with a brother/sister, if you want to sleep in the same room as your wife and not have to worry about how deep you sleep, you do not get involved in your spouse's family squabbles!

And as far as Obama's brother is concerned, you don't make a promise and then renig on it (at least as far as family is concerned) if you expect people to trust you to follow through on your campaign promises. If you promise to help your brother and then blow off your promise, why should I believe you when you offer to help me and my family?

I LOVE THAT AD - I LOVE ... (Below threshold)

I LOVE THAT AD - I LOVE THAT AS - I LOVE THAT AD!!!

How soon til McCain condemns it for being -INSERT WHINY OBAMA LINE HER-?

If McCain doesn't do that, I might actually start thinking about voting for him.

DJ,Any explosion y... (Below threshold)
Rance:

DJ,

Any explosion you hear from me, is only an explosion of laughter. It has been predicted in the MSM that if McCain is not careful, POW will become a punchline.

If you don't believe that it is overused, during the Edwards/affair/baby debates, Sean Hannity tried to argue that McCain cheating on his wife was different from Edwards cheating on his wife because "McCain was a POW".

You don't have to believe me on that one, you can find it on-line.

Your protest lacks convicti... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Your protest lacks conviction, Rance.

heh.

"So, just answer the que... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

"So, just answer the question, why didn't he do anything to help his brother at that time?

Just answer these questions... is his brother worthy of helping? Is he a hard working man trying to create a better life for his family? Is he a bum expecting his rich brother to give him handouts?


28. Posted by Brian | August 25, 2008 4:24 PM "

(looong whistle) Wow. Save that quote for the archives, Wizbangers. A Leftie troll asking if some human beings are worthy of helping? And calling him names?

What a racist. What an unfeeling prick. What an out of touch greedhead. (Did I miss any of the insults Brocko and his ilk aim at non-Democrats who say less severe things?)

DJ and Mac, let's be real c... (Below threshold)

DJ and Mac, let's be real clear here. George is a half-brother, not a full blood brother, the offspring of a father Barack Obama hadn't seen but once more since he was just two years old and his father started a whole new life with a woman from Kenya far from the United States before he was killed in a 1982 auto accident. Expecting Obama to responsible for every relative living in a distant foreign land that is the offspring of a mother he never even knew while growing up is an absurd standard.

Obama's half-brother has probably never written Barack Obama ever asking for anything, yet if the Texas Republicans who are paying for this ad are so darn concerned about some poor guy living in Kenya, them why don't they send him some money themselves instead of spending several hundred thousand dollars to produce this ad and air it on TV. This ad is simply an embarrassment for those who chose to run it and no one else, certainly not Barack Obama.

And Chip, Obama has gone from a tragic childhood of divorce at age two and being raised by his White mother's parents to attending law school, teaching law and running for president. What have you done with your life recently?

Real small time personal attack ad crap like this ad against Obama is just pure trash of the worst type. It is not a legitimate political issue except in the minds of a few persons with some mental health issues. Bloggers and others who write crazy conspiracy stuff bring up wacky issues like this, but not legitimate campaigns. I can't imagine that John McCain would ever approve of this ad done in his behalf. He's too decent for low brow stuff like this.

I'm not going to spend all day here debating such crap personal destruction ads like this. This ad isn't worth debating. A person should just be smart enough to know when some things are crazy without having to be told it is.

Les,I agree, Got ... (Below threshold)
Kenny:

Les,

I agree, Got to save Brian at his stupidest. I'd add don't forget heartless bastard.

Just answer these questions... is his brother worthy of helping? Is he a hard working man trying to create a better life for his family? Is he a bum expecting his rich brother to give him handouts?


28. Posted by Brian | August 25, 2008 4:24 PM "

(looong whistle) Wow. Save that quote for the archives, Wizbangers. A Leftie troll asking if some human beings are worthy of helping? And calling him names?

What a racist. What an unfeeling prick. What an out of touch greedhead. (Did I miss any of the insults Brocko and his ilk aim at non-Democrats who say less severe things?)


Mr. Nessman,What a... (Below threshold)

Mr. Nessman,

What about "Hitler"? No sir, you could not possibly imagine half of the epithets being hurled at you right now for deigning to point out the uaual lib hypocrisy.

I see that Mr.Hoosans racis... (Below threshold)
Maggie:

I see that Mr.Hoosans racist bigoted tongue
has grown and is ever more firmly esconsed in
his cheek.
Tragic, indeed.

Paul,Expe... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Paul,

Expecting Obama to responsible for every relative living in a distant foreign land that is the offspring of a mother he never even knew while growing up is an absurd standard.

No one is talking about every relative, just close relatives. Did you know that a half brother/sister is genetically more closely related than a grandparent? George Obama says he lives on less that a dollar a month. How much of a burden would it be to send him $20 a month? You know lots of people less well off than B.O. send $20 a month overseas to help care for children they have no relationship to. Heck, you've even done a lot more for some of your renters than Obama has done for his half brother.

Obama's half-brother has probably never written Barack Obama ever asking for anything, yet if the Texas Republicans who are paying for this ad are so darn concerned about some poor guy living in Kenya, them why don't they send him some money themselves instead of spending several hundred thousand dollars to produce this ad and air it on TV.

It wouldn't be an issue if Obama wasn't trying to come off as someone who cares about poor people. Given his personal disregard for his half brother's welfare, Obama can't be trusted to keep any promises he makes to poor people. Voters need to know that and that's why the Texas Republicans are running the ad.

Paul, if you repeat 'his Wh... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:

Paul, if you repeat 'his White mother's parents' one more time, you are going to convince me that you are a closet racist.

As for the ad .... it's human nature. For months Obama has been lecturing all of us on how we should behave on virtually every topic. In nearly every case, when his own life is examined, it is seen that he rarely practices as he preaches.

Yes, the ad is stupid .... as was Obama's ad (which I do believe he approved) about the number of McCain's houses.

If we believed half of what you have told us about your own investments, I suspect that you would have said "check with my staff" when someone asked you such a blatant "gotcha" question.

What is truly hysterical is that McCain's wealth is suddenly a problem. It wasn't an issue when wealthier Democrats were still in the race.

A person should just be smart enough to know when some things are crazy without having to be told it is.

Are you referring to the left-wing bloggers who are questioning if McCain was really tortured all that bad 30 years ago? There does seem to be a lot of them out there beating that dead horse.

"The arguments in the campa... (Below threshold)
retired military:

"The arguments in the campaign should be "I will give you a stronger economy because [ put economic program here]", or "I will be a better Commander in Chief because [put defense policy here]", not "I served and suffered, so America owes me". "

Okay good point. The thing is Kerry beat us to death with it and now you are saying it si out of bounds.

Also what does the number of McCain's houses have to do with "I will give you a stronger economy " or "I will be a better Commander in Chief"? Answer nothing.

Again the left started the diatribe about McCain's houses. Now you are whining when he responds.


"McCain's sister in law"

Again what does this have to do with "I will give you a stronger economy " or "I will be a better Commander in Chief"? Answer nothing.

Now maybe Rance if you were running the campaign for the left these issues wouldnt come up and we could stick to I will give you a stronger economy " or "I will be a better Commander in Chief" but you aren't so there fore expect this from both sides and stop whining about it.


Maggie, I have a number of ... (Below threshold)

Maggie, I have a number of relatives who live in Brazil as well as Canada and Europe, and I have no idea what they're up to because they so seldom write me, and I'm looking at buying a $1million dollar piece of commercial real estate to purchase for earning potential. Maybe you should spend a few run hundred thousand dollars to produce attack ads claiming that I neglect my relatives as well just looking out for myself and not them. You just can't see how stupid this is as an issue.

I suppose talking about real issues like economics, energy, foreign policy might involve some sort of an education or knowledge, so it's just so much easier to talk about some half brother of Barack Obama living overseas that he hardly even knows instead because it doesn't involve much effort and think that this is an issue. Okay. I know where you're coming from.

As far as racism goes, I at least have a large number of Hispanic relatives living in Brazil in my family, Maggie. All of the relatives I've met have very decent folks and most don't need any financial help because of so many millionaires on my mother's side of the family. One even has his jet plane and an ex-Air Force pilot all to himself to commute between the U.S. offices and his business in Brazil.

Okay, I'm busy now and not going to waste any more time here today. If you think stuff like this half-brother crap is an issue fine, but I'm sure at the convention today they'll be talking about real issues like economics and foreign policy goals by comparison while you mutter on about some nonsense about some half brother. Fine.

Mr.Hoosan, Not only ... (Below threshold)
maggie:

Mr.Hoosan,
Not only does your tongue continue to
expand, so does your nose. All with a
patronizing twist.
Be careful where you land your plane after
buying your million dollar piece of real
estate. You might fluff it.
Tall tale telling usually ends in a
very hard and sudden fall.
And that would be very tragic indeed.

(looong whistle) Wow. Sa... (Below threshold)
Brian:

(looong whistle) Wow. Save that quote for the archives, Wizbangers. A Leftie troll asking if some human beings are worthy of helping? And calling him names?
What a racist. What an unfeeling prick.

Huh? What the hell are you talking about? I didn't say anything about "if some human beings are worthy of helping", nor did I call anyone names. I asked about Obama's personal responsibility to help him someone he doesn't know. You know, "personal responsibility", that thing you right-wingers are always talking about? You're so quick to insist that Obama pay for his brother to move out of his hut, but you have no knowledge of the circumstances. In other words, just talking out your asses. Another right-wing trait.

Is there ANY topic Mr. Hoos... (Below threshold)

Is there ANY topic Mr. Hooson can not twist to talk about himself and his fabulous wealth? I'm starting to wonder.

J.

No one is talking about ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

No one is talking about every relative, just close relatives.

Agreed. But this is a guy he met twice, who lives halfway around the world, and who describes him as a "stranger". He's not a close relative.

How much of a burden would it be to send him $20 a month?

So YOU do it!

By the way, how much did the RNC pay him to use his photo in their ad?

Maggie, I don't own a jet l... (Below threshold)

Maggie, I don't own a jet like my relative who owns a shipping company close to the rain-forests in Brazil, Bernard. I simply own real estate properties and stay close to Portland to manage them and because I don't like to travel anymore due to arthritis and dietary restrictions and stopped vacations about 10 years ago. But I did like Canada, Hawaii and Nevada a lot at one time, while my family preferred Paris and London.

Incidentally, Bernard was very concerned because logging companies used to operate nearly 100 chainsaws almost 24 hours a day cutting down the Brazilian rain-forests for lumber which turned him into a pretty good environmentalist.

Incidentally, the main home I own is featured in Wikipedia under architect Francis Marion Stokes if you wish to see it with two lovely pictures. Not many homes are good enough to be featured in Wikipedia. I was sure honored to find a home of mine included.

Is there ANY topic Mr. H... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Is there ANY topic Mr. Hooson can not twist to talk about himself and his fabulous wealth?

That's pretty funny coming from someone who finds any opportunity to relate some story to his lack of wealth.

Mr.Hoosan, How sad... (Below threshold)
Maggie:

Mr.Hoosan,

How sad,no plane. And it must be an
endurance for you to operate your
motor scooter ailing with arthritis.
Sad, sad, sad.
It's too bad your wealth hasn't abled you
to buy good health.
The only time I've seen my home in
photos is when it was for sale before
purchasing it. But I did get the mineral
rights with the 30 acres that came with it.

And Chip, Obama ha... (Below threshold)
Chip:
And Chip, Obama has gone from a tragic childhood of divorce at age two and being raised by his White mother's parents to attending law school, teaching law and running for president. What have you done with your life recently?
Hooson, really, "white mother's parents"? You couldn't just say grandparents, you had to specify a race? Racist much? And thanks for your concern, feigned though it is, about what I've done with my life, but Hooson, since you asked what I've done. I was born poor and have stayed that way most of my life, as an infant I was struck deaf by a high fever, I've gone to school, struggled through much of it. Started my own computer repair and internet provider business. I've donated computers to people that couldn't afford them, I've donated computers to churches, donated my time and energy to helping elderly people that want to, learn about computers. I also taught kids at a school about computers. I haven't ran for President...Yet. but hey who knows. Now for your Mr. Obama to say that as Americans we need to be more charitable, I think that the issue of "some half brother" living in squalor is relevant.

Brian...

Just answer these questions... is his brother worthy of helping? Is he a hard working man trying to create a better life for his family? Is he a bum expecting his rich brother to give him handouts?

Isn't that what the democratic stance is, take from those that have, to give to those that don't, whether the person of lesser means is deserving or not? Isn't that the whole point of doing away with those evil republican tax cuts and raising taxes on wealthy Americans? Are we now supposed to be asking people on welfare if they are looking for work? Aren't we supposed to handing out cash without such questionnaires? And again Brian if you didn't get my point the whole issue is that Obama says we as Americans should be more charitable, but for the least of his own family....well you can fill in the blanks I think you're smart eno...oh well.

Maggie, at 53 I'm not ever ... (Below threshold)

Maggie, at 53 I'm not ever looking forward to another motorcycle crash ever in my lifetime. Getting thrown about 20 feet on hard pavement and covered with gas from the busted fuel tank in the last crash left me not as good as before the crash for sure. But I still love all types of bikes. But fortunately crashes are rare, but still bad enough when they happen even with full body armor.

Good deal if you have mineral rights on your property. Maybe that might be worthwhile sometime for you. The best to you.

Chip, Barack Obama was a mi... (Below threshold)

Chip, Barack Obama was a mixed race child, and an American citizen born in Hawaii, compared to all of his relatives living in Kenya such as his half-brother George who is completely African. The only connection between Obama and a number of his relatives living in Kenya was his father who divorced Barack Obama's mother at the age of two. That's pretty far fetched to say that he owes his relatives money for living, especially when his half-brother George has even denied living in poverty to CNN and even works for community groups helping others. The ad is filled with so many half-truths and falsehoods.

Wow, Paul, if you have a "m... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:

Wow, Paul, if you have a "main" home, then you must have multiple homes.

Clearly your are an elitist who cares nothing for the common person.

LoL!

What I don't understand is why you haven't told us about your best known accomplishment - being one of Thor's puppeteers.

I would stay for more of the discussion, but I just Googled my name and discovered I was an extremely successfully writer of romance novels. I've got some shirt ripping to do for cover art.

As to the ad, I stick with my original reaction. It is tacky - mostly because Obama's brother doesn't deserve to be treated like that.

I still have no sympathy for Obama however - when you set yourself up as the judger of all that is right and good, people will inevitably look to see if you live up to your own expectations.

Chip, you are talking about... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Chip, you are talking about one person giving to another person. We are not talking about domestic policy, or (perhaps more appropriate) foreign policy.

You claim "he's family", but when it's pointed out that he's a virtual stranger, you then switch to "isn't that the Democratic policy"? You can't have it both ways.

When you give to charity (assuming you do), you make individual and personal decisions about which are most meaningful to you and get your money. Should you be criticized for giving to one charity and not another? When you give or don't give a homeless guy a dollar, you make a personal decision. Should you be criticized for giving to one but not another? When you decline your second-cousin-twice-removed's request for a loan, should you be criticized for abandoning your family?

Are we now supposed to be asking people on welfare if they are looking for work?

Actually, we already do. For unemployment insurance.

Aren't we supposed to handing out cash without such questionnaires?

Umm, no. Is that your fake distortion of Democratic policies to make it easier for you to dismiss them?

And again Brian if you didn't get my point the whole issue is that Obama says we as Americans should be more charitable

OK, great. Then since you believe that applies in every instance without any kind of personal decision allowed, then you give me your money.

but for the least of his own family

Except for Cindy's sisters, eh? Oh, I get it. If you insist they're not family, then you don't have to take any responsibility!

Agreed. But this i... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Agreed. But this is a guy he met twice, who lives halfway around the world, and who describes him as a "stranger". He's not a close relative.

You must have skipped the part where I said "Did you know that a half brother/sister is genetically more closely related than a grandparent?"

The word relative denotes some degree of common ancestry, and thus the additive "close" is always in reference to genetic makeup when talking about a relative. Even a long lost brother or half-brother is a close relative and no spin will change that.

How much of a burden would it be to send him $20 a month?

So YOU do it!

He's not my half-brother and I have done that and more for people I have no relation to and don't even know other than they needed help. What this shows is that Obama's words about taking care of the poor are just words and he can't be trusted to follow through once he gets the votes from the poor.

By the way, how much did the RNC pay him to use his photo in their ad?

That photo is by Guy Calaf, Vanity Fair. Read the article and then tell my how good George Obama has it.

HOOSON!It was a bloo... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

HOOSON!
It was a bloody scooter. Not a motorcycle. Stop embellishing the story.

He's not my half-brother... (Below threshold)
Brian:

He's not my half-brother and I have done that and more for people I have no relation to and don't even know other than they needed help.

And so has Obama. You chose who to give to, and so did he. He chose to not have a relationship with his father's other family, and so did Cindy McCain.

What this shows is that Obama's words about taking care of the poor are just words and he can't be trusted to follow through once he gets the votes from the poor.

No, all this shows is that you think that identifying a stranger in another country that Obama hasn't given money to and ignoring all of his other charitable giving means "he doesn't care about taking care of the poor".

How cute. Brian still thin... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

How cute. Brian still thinks the adults take him seriously.

Brian,Please list ... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:

Brian,

Please list Obama's charitable giving with sources so we can see for ourselves.

Note: Anything that involves using anyone's money but his own and his wife's doesn't count. Only what came from his (or his wife's) personal fortune counts.

And so has Obama. ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
And so has Obama. You chose who to give to, and so did he. He chose to not have a relationship with his father's other family, and so did Cindy McCain.

Cindy McCain is not running for President and making promises about taking care of the poor. Barack is.

No, all this shows is that you think that identifying a stranger in another country that Obama hasn't given money to and ignoring all of his other charitable giving means "he doesn't care about taking care of the poor".

George is his half-brother and even if Barack didn't want to know much about him, he should have at least helped him. Charity starts with your own family and someone with ample resources who would leaves his half-brother suffer in poverty isn't going to care about the generic poor. Barack is a phony and the way George lives proves it.




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