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NBC Confirms Gov. Sarah Palin As McCain VP Choice

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In May we broke the story the John McCain was seriously looking at Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as a short-list Vice President candidate. This morning it appears confirmed that Palin is the nominee - NBC is reporting that Palin is the nominee, and CBS has confirmed it as well.

One word: Awesome

Lorie adds: Last night around 3 a.m. when most everyone else was declaring Pawlenty the pick, we posted the story from Red County about the charter flight from Alaska thought to carry Palin.

I second Kevin's "awesome" assessment and everyone I am hearing from around the blogosphere is thrilled with this pick. For some background on Palin check out this post at Democracy Project.

Kim adds: This is brilliant. In one fell swoop, John McCain usurped Barack Obama's mantra of hope and change. When Obama was faced with the chance to actually practice what he preached, he balked by choosing a Washington insider, Joe Biden. It was the "cantankerous and old" John McCain who delivered what Obama couldn't: hope and real change with Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

More from Lorie: Ed Morrisey has an excellent post about what Palin brings to the ticket. Read it all. Michelle Malkin has a great roundup of reaction to Palin and a really cool video.

Best quote: From Mary Katharine Ham -- "This is how you do a VP announcement, rookie."


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Comments (138)

YES!!Ever since Wi... (Below threshold)

YES!!

Ever since Wizbang blogged about Palin as a possible VP pick back in May, I have been secretly hoping for it. I've mentioned it in several online discussions of McCain's VP pick, only to be shot down by folks who thought it would be Pawlenty or Romney.

I still think McCain is a dick, but with Palin on the ticket? Hell yes, I will vote for him.

I just said it in another t... (Below threshold)

I just said it in another thread and it bears repeating (well, I think it does)...

John effing McCain, liberal media darling, GOP-annoying John McCain, it appears, has excited the conservative base.

A great choice. Young, fema... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

A great choice. Young, female and an elected executive. Perfect. ww

This is a headache for Barr... (Below threshold)
Baron Von Ottomatic:

This is a headache for Barrack on so many levels. I'm giving money to McCain today.

I love it. Brilliant move!... (Below threshold)
COgirl:

I love it. Brilliant move!

I'm over the moon that he's... (Below threshold)
Tammy:

I'm over the moon that he's picked Palin. I immediately liked her when you did that story on her a few weeks back.

Well, things just got a WHO... (Below threshold)
Big Mo:

Well, things just got a WHOLE lot more interesting.

McCain might actually win this after all.

Does she have the experienc... (Below threshold)
PeachPit:

Does she have the experience to lead? Was she a POW? I don't think this will work...

Hey wait, didn't the 2nd co... (Below threshold)

Hey wait, didn't the 2nd coming of MLK give a speech or have a concert or something last night?

The obligatory sulk from th... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

The obligatory sulk from the Left confirms this was a solid choice.

Thank you, I agree it is so... (Below threshold)

Thank you, I agree it is so awesome. Got the bulletin in the St.Louis airport while picking up my daughter and the first thing we did was an impromtu dance right outside the arrival gate.

Excellent. Makes it easier ... (Below threshold)

Excellent. Makes it easier to vote for him ... *them.* I mean *them.*

If she speaks well, is conf... (Below threshold)

If she speaks well, is confident and in control of herself, she'll make Biden look like a prick every time he goes on the attack. She needs to give him every opportunity to be the blowhard he's known to be.

A great choice (as far as I see it with the info I have).

BTW, does anyone know, is t... (Below threshold)

BTW, does anyone know, is this the first female on a ticket for a major political party? And by "major political party" I mean Democrat or Republican.

I think the Wikipedia entry on Sarah Palin says she would be the second female VP on a major party ticket. Who was the first?

ClobberGirl: How old are yo... (Below threshold)

ClobberGirl: How old are you? :) You don't remember Geraldine Ferraro?

Terrible choice. This Woman... (Below threshold)
mike:

Terrible choice. This Woman is under investigation for an ETHICVS violation concerning ABUSE of POWER!! Is McCain for real? Did everybody else say no? We're in so much trouble because of ethics violations and he picks an inexperienced woman under investigation? Democrats are going to be dancing in the streets!

I think the Wikipedia en... (Below threshold)
Joe:

I think the Wikipedia entry on Sarah Palin says she would be the second female VP on a major party ticket. Who was the first?

Mandale and Ferraro in the 80s

She is the second female VP... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

She is the second female VP nominee, but she'll soon be the first female to be elected VPOTUS.

I'm 26 Falze, and no, I don... (Below threshold)

I'm 26 Falze, and no, I don't.

I see from Wikipedia now that she ran in 1984 with Walter Mondale. I was 2 years old.

So yeah, don't remember that. Talk of Dukakees and Bushes is the earliest election I remember. ;)

The difference between Ferr... (Below threshold)

The difference between Ferraro and Palin is that the McCain/Palin ticket actually has a shot (unlike Mondale/Ferraro).

In light of their attacks o... (Below threshold)
Rance:

In light of their attacks on Obama for having a lack of experience, it will be interesting to see the GOP strategy in justifying her qualifications to be VP when her resume is:

Two terms Wasilla City Council
Two terms Wasilla Mayor
Less than 1 term Alaska gov


Peach:You put the experienc... (Below threshold)

Peach:You put the experience at the top of the ticket.

One of the more classical uses of the VP slot used to be to boost the careers of young up-and-comers and rising stars. I would not be surprised to hear McCain call Palin the future standard bearer of the GOP or something to that effect.

Rance, they'll justify it b... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Rance, they'll justify it by saying: Well she has more experience than Obama...

Mike, the ethics complaint ... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Mike, the ethics complaint has proven to be another political ploy, nothing to it. Get real and get up to date. No, keep having your wet dreams so you have no children to polute the world with more brain dead liberals.

This is so exciting, I'm ac... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

This is so exciting, I'm actually gonna donate some cash to McCain (something I hadn't done yet).

The historic first female to be elected VP and she's NOT a lawyer! Wow!

Actually, as someone on the... (Below threshold)

Actually, as someone on the left, I have to say I'm thrilled with this pick as well. It shows just how desperate McCain is. Seriously? You pick a brand-new governor of Alaska, of all places. As we all know Alaska is the stomping ground for some of the world's most important political issues (sarcasm), so this really counts as "executive experience"? All McCain has done is pick a sorely inexperienced candidate simply to pander to hold-out Hillary supporters, hoping that he can chip a few nicks in the armada that is the Obama campaign at this point. I agree with Barack, McCain just doesn't get it. This pick shows it. And, I think the Obama campaign just moved one step close to victory because of it. Thanks McCain. Obama doesn't need your help to win, but we still appreciate it.

OK, for those that care, I ... (Below threshold)

OK, for those that care, I just spun through the major news sites and did screen caps on initial reactions:

Yahoo front page: unflattering photo (head tilted, mouth open), described as "little-known Alaska Gov..."

CNBC: nice, smily picture, "a self-styled "hockey-mom"", comment that Larry Kudlow apparently loves the pick

MSNBC: large, unflattering photo (hair kinda messy, mouth open and twisted, angle is from below looking up her nose), no details other than "first female veep nominee", just 'story inside'

CBS News: big, pretty good photo, smily white teeth - contrary to buzz around the internet, they claim: "Alaska Gov. Is McCain's VP Shocker", below that is a link for photos of Palin and right below that is a link titled: "Story: Alaskans for Obama"

ABC News: Big photos of McCain AND Palin, McCain photo is not bad, smiling, from his 'good' side. Photo of Palin is HORRIBLE, she looks like she's as old as Nancy Pelosi, caught mid-word, mouth gaping open vacantly. Here's the money shot - other than the announcement, here is the only info about Palin: photo caption: "Staunchly against abortion, Palin satisfies McCain's conservative base."

Fox News: Are you kidding? Of course there's a great picture of Palin smiling and waving to people outdoors. Info: "Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is surprise choice to be McCain's running mate; mother of 5 is considered rising star in GOP, known for pro-life stand, fiscal conservatism". If you want more proof that this has fired up the base, all of these pages I accessed loaded normally, but Fox News was noticeably slow, they must be getting hammered.

CNN: big, really good photo and very positive bio brief: "John McCain has chosen Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his vice-presidential candidate on the Republican ticket for the White House, a senior McCain campaign official has told CNN. The 44-year-old Palin, now in her first term as governor, is a pioneering figure in Alaska, the first woman and the youngest person to hold the state's top political job."


Another brilliant move. Fo... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Another brilliant move. For the first time Obama's campaign is finding itself in a medium vacuum. Don't know how long it will last, but it's something new for the Obama campaign.

Yes the left will piss and moan and cough up strawmen as usual, but they are missing the point. There's now a women in this race, and guess what, there are way more women than blacks. Shifting just a few percent of women voters away from Obama will swing the election for McCain.

At some point Palin will find an issue where Obama is off-track with women and make the charge "I know he cares, but he just doesn't get it". Turning Obama's theme against McCain into a devastating liability every time they try to use it. McCain's campaign can also take a page out of Obama's book of tricks and preemptively play the gender card to insulate Palin from many attacks.

I had my doubts about McCain, but he has run a brilliant campaign so far. If he can win against the backdrop of 2006 and the blatant medial bias he will have proven he has the right stuff to lead this nation.

PeachPit wrote: "Does she h... (Below threshold)
Maurice:

PeachPit wrote: "Does she have the experience to lead? Was she a POW? I don't think this will work..."

LOL, you O-bots are so funny when you think you're making a devestating remark. I swear, I think you have to have had an Obatamy to be a true Obama believer. For the sake of argument lets review shall we?

Sarah Palin: 8 years as Mayor of Anchorage, 2 years as Governor of Alaska. Total 10 years of executive experience and a proven record as a fiscal conservative, a campaigner against corruption, and a reformer.

Barak Obama: 8 years in Illinois State House, 143 days in the US Senate. A total of 8+ years of legislative experience, ZERO years in executive experience and no real accomplishments of any kind to speak of.

If you care to refute that please start listing, with links, anything that Obama has done that didn't involve casting a vote or attatching his name to someone elses bill. The Palin pick, and subsequent wailing and gnashing of teeth by Obama operatives on the news channels tells me this was a homerun.

The O-bots in both the campaign and the MSM, but I repeat myself, are saying that this pick takes McCain's attacks on Obama's lack of experience "off the table". LMAO, they wish! It actually serves to reinforce McCain's message. How does Barry attack Palin without exposing himself? She's too inexperienced to be Vice President - a job that basically involves attending state funerals - but he is somehow qualified to be the CiC? Yea, right. Please, PLEASE, pursue that line of attack. You O-bots are panicking because you know you're man is toast.

Mike: You mean <a href="ht... (Below threshold)

Mike: You mean this investigation?

Looks like a disgruntled fired employee case to me. Much ado about nothing.

I'm off to bed. I work nights.

Uh, Maurice, I believe she ... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Uh, Maurice, I believe she was mayor of Wasilla, not Anchorage (big, big difference), other than that, you're very right.

Count me down as awesome al... (Below threshold)
jbw:

Count me down as awesome also.

As someone who was less than thrilled with McCain, I am now ready to throwdown till November.

This really made my day! I'... (Below threshold)

This really made my day! I've been touting Palin since February.

Whoo-Hoo!

I'm a happy camper!

Sarah Palin: 8 years as ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Sarah Palin: 8 years as Mayor of Anchorage, 2 years as Governor of

Palin was mayor of Wasilla (pop. 5500), not Anchorage.

Anyway, this was a very smart choice on McCain's part. Palin is a independent-minded reformer, elected on a platform of ethics reform against the ultra-corrupt Alaska Republican party. She's smart, she's keen on energy issues, young and dynamic, and she's a looker to boot. This is a much more formidable ticket than Romney or Pawlenty could have provided.

That said, I doubt she'll pull too many women from across the aisle as she is staunchly pro-life. Plus, her stance on global warming is not going to enthuse the denialists in the Republican party.

Is there an echo in here?</... (Below threshold)

Is there an echo in here?

"John McCain doesn't know how many houses he owns."

Does Barack Obama really want to start talking about houses?

"Sarah Palin is inexperienced, merely being a mayor and Governor."

Does Barack Obama really want to start talking about executive experience?

mantis, I hope you realize ... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

mantis, I hope you realize that after the history of the last half-century or so, there is only one party which could even possibly be tapped as "ultra-corrupt".

That party has a jackass as its mascot, and for its VP pick.

Over at Hot Air, Captain Ed... (Below threshold)
Mike:

Over at Hot Air, Captain Ed pointed out that Palin rose to the governorship by challenging the power structure of her party and blowing the whistle on the "good ol' boy" crony system (think Ted Stevens) that has infected the Alaskan Republican party for decades.

On the other hand, Obama talks a lot about change, but instead chose to become an acolyte of Richard Daly and the Chicago Democratic machine, as well as aligning with the farthest of the far left on the Chicago scene (Wright, Ayers, etc.) And what did Obama really "change" in Chicago? I think the residents of Grove Parc and Englewood could privide a very interesting answer to that question.

Besides, having a MILF crus... (Below threshold)
Mike:

Besides, having a MILF crush on the Veep is a good thing ... isn't it?

I never thought I'd a Veep ... (Below threshold)
Baron Von Ottomatic:

I never thought I'd a Veep who was nearly so drop-dead sexy as Cheney.

I was wrong...

Excellent - I am one of the... (Below threshold)
Pamela:

Excellent - I am one of the former Democratic PA Hillary supporters who felt bad about voting McCain -- Not anymore!

In one fell swoop, John ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

In one fell swoop, John McCain usurped Barack Obama's mantra of hope and change.

And usurped his own mantra of experience. Biden will eat her alive at the debate.

If Obama is too in-experien... (Below threshold)
Dave:

If Obama is too in-experienced to be Commander In Chief what makes you think Palin is?

And what did Obama reall... (Below threshold)

And what did Obama really "change" in Chicago?

Well, according to Biden's speech, he got health insurance for 150 people. Something like that. Pretty impressive, huh? Pretty much right up there with gubernatorial experience.

Biden will eat her alive... (Below threshold)

Biden will eat her alive at the debate.

That'll go over well.

Sarah Palin: 2 years as ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Sarah Palin: 2 years as Governor of Alaska.

Less than 2 years.

Couldn't be happier with th... (Below threshold)
Zeno:

Couldn't be happier with the VP pick. It's a pure political appointment, using one of the only women the far right have available to them as a desperate attempt to wrest a few votes off disaffected hillary supporters ( of which there are now none ).

Good luck with an Alaskan mayor as a serious contender to take over the job of POTUS, a serious proposition as the old man may well die in office should he win.

She'll be too busy to care for her retarded baby anyway.
depp=true
notiz=You're way out of line bub.

And usurped his own mant... (Below threshold)

And usurped his own mantra of experience.

Why? Did McCain's experience go away? Come now, surely you can come up with something better than this. Suddenly you're all about the experience? Laughable.

Would one of the contributo... (Below threshold)

Would one of the contributors do us a favor and post Zeno's comment on the front page as an example of the wonderful progressiveness of the caring and compassionate lovely left?

That'll go over well.</i... (Below threshold)
Brian:

That'll go over well.

If Obama holds his own against McCain in their debates, indeed it will.

Suddenly you're all abou... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Suddenly you're all about the experience? Laughable.

And suddenly you're not. Indeed, laughable.

I would say this of a man o... (Below threshold)
kim465:

I would say this of a man or a woman, someone who has a new baby with special needs like Downs Syndrome should be committed to the care of the child. I am pro-life and that includes nurturing a baby who desperately needs your care instead of focusing on ambition. Neither a mother nor a father should strike out on such a large project at the moment their family needs them so much. It's a matter of character.

As a Clinton supporter I am... (Below threshold)
kim465:

As a Clinton supporter I am disappointed. McCain has just picked a token woman. He will put her in the back room of the White House where she will have no power or influence. How is that a change for women in America?

Wow our leftist friends are... (Below threshold)
P. Buyan:

Wow our leftist friends are so full of class and logic today!

/sarc off

I hope American women won't... (Below threshold)
kim:

I hope American women won't be tricked and just vote for a woman because she's a woman. They should vote on the issues not on the labels.

And usurped his ow... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
And usurped his own mantra of experience. Biden will eat her alive at the debate.

As has been pointed out by other above it would be great if Biden claims Palin doesn't have enough experience to be VP. She'll then point out that she has more experience than Obama.

Obama made a stupid blunder talking about change and then picking an old white man as his VP. He left the door open for McCain and McCain just went through it.

You put the experience a... (Below threshold)
Brian:

You put the experience at the top of the ticket.

Or you put the leader at the top of the ticket, and put the experience in their advisors.

Neither a mother n... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Neither a mother nor a father should strike out on such a large project at the moment their family needs them so much. It's a matter of character.

That would be a great line of attack. I sure hope Obama runs with it. Palin can then point out this wasn't an issue when Biden's wife died and left him with two young kids to raise. It's the old boy's double standard that it's ok for a man to do but not a woman. Palin can then say "I know Obama cares, but he just doesn't get it." Lights out for Obama.

She's certainly a solid con... (Below threshold)
bjd:

She's certainly a solid conservative, but is it really so hard to find one that isn't a freakin' creationist???

She'll then point out th... (Below threshold)
Brian:

She'll then point out that she has more experience than Obama.

He has 11 years of state/federal-level experience, she has less than 2. Surely your position isn't that several years on the City Council of a town with population 5,000 is presidential-level experience!

And if you ignore said City Council, they have the same number of years of experience, though with her mostly as mayor of said podunk town, and him in the Illinois state legislature and as senator.

Barrack Obama has never hel... (Below threshold)
Baron Von Ottomatic:

Barrack Obama has never held one full time job for at least four years. And he's at the top of the Dem ticket.

Presiding over the Senate and the Veep's office is better on-the-job-training than the Oval Office itself.

Was it John Adams who summed up the office of Veep - "like a bucket of warm piss"? A more suitable grooming for the Presidency than a few uninspired months in the Senate, no?

A heart beat from the presidency? Is McCain's health an issue? Sure, he's old; no health concerns in his (fully released) medical files though. Wasn't Cheney's heart an issue? He's been waterboarding the Grim Reaper for eight years, no worries...

I always use the barometer ... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

I always use the barometer of the liberal screeching to demonstrate when the republican party does a good thing. McCain did a very good thing. ww

Today on John McCain's 72nd... (Below threshold)
Diedra:

Today on John McCain's 72nd Birthday, he chose 44 year old Sarah Palin, a 1st term governor of Alaska. Sarah Palin has 5 kids; one a 4 month old infant with down syndrome. Sarah does not have much experience at all, she was just elected Governor for the 1st time in 2006 when she was 42 years old but...not much else...oh Not to mention Sarah Palin is under investigation in her own state! Good for you McCain, now you have a history making event too! LOL

With all of McCain's campaign ads against Obama, this is an interesting choice or more like a tactical move for a piece of history for McCain and some lime light. Sarah knows how to eat a moose burger, ride a snow mobile, shoot a gun and has 2 years of experience as a governor as Alaska - I would not consider her comparable to Obama or Hilary, two candidates who have a long history of bringing about change.

McCain is so unpredictable and inconsistent - McCain seems be contradicting himself a lot of lately. "REMEMBER, GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY. GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL", McCain has not grasped that concept yet.

Lets drop the "I want to bigger than you" events or "im not getting enough media" McCain and get in touch with reality and the real subject at hand, the United States People.

With the Palin pick, John M... (Below threshold)
Baron Von Ottomatic:

With the Palin pick, John McCain just transformed Barrack Obama into the "Ow, my balls!" guy from Idiocracy.

I just sent him $300.

He has 11 years of... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
He has 11 years of state/federal-level experience, she has less than 2. Surely your position isn't that several years on the City Council of a town with population 5,000 is presidential-level experience

As governor of Alaska she has nearly two years of executive experience and Obama has none. Guess what, their running for an executive position. Also, as governor Palin has more legislative achievements than Obama. She's also has an impressive record of breaking up old boy clubs.

Love the "she has no experi... (Below threshold)
Faith+1:

Love the "she has no experience" claims. In terms of executive office experience she has more than the other three people from both tickets.

OK, Brian, then where do yo... (Below threshold)

OK, Brian, then where do you put Obama?

Palin: "as Hillary Clinton ... (Below threshold)
Baron Von Ottomatic:

Palin: "as Hillary Clinton said, there are 18 million cracks in the hardest of glass ceilings... Well, the women of America aren't done yet!"

Ow, my balls!

I may send him another $300...

mantis, I hope you... (Below threshold)
mantis:
mantis, I hope you realize that after the history of the last half-century or so, there is only one party which could even possibly be tapped as "ultra-corrupt".

That party has a jackass as its mascot, and for its VP pick.

Those aren't very nice things to say about your candidates, DJ.

Palin ran a small business<... (Below threshold)

Palin ran a small business
Palin ran a city
Palin ran a state

Obama ran for office
Biden runs his mouth

Advantage: Palin!

Diedra, I know you care, bu... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Diedra, I know you care, but you just don't get it. Isn't that Obama's theme against McCain? Well, expect Palin to make that charge against Obama soon. Women will get it, and it only takes a small percentage of them to switch from Obama to give McCain the win.

Mantis: "Those aren't ve... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Mantis: "Those aren't very nice things to say about your candidates, DJ"

A weak and false response from you, mantis. Given your party's choices for idol and demigod, however, I hardly expected a more effective riposte.

I wonder if you understand yet, just how badly the Obambi campaign was hurt by the Palin pick?

Probably not, which makes it all the more delicious.

DJ,I think they kn... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

DJ,

I think they know all too well how much it hurts Obama. That explains all the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Frankly, if it's not obviou... (Below threshold)

Frankly, if it's not obvious from my other comments, I love the pick.

Still, in the back of my mind I keep hearing Chris Berman on NFL Draft day, after the Jets announce their first round pick and the fans go wild, announce "And the Jets just won the Super Bowl!"

Definitely a great pick as the trolls here have made clear with their snarks about her experience (infinitely (hard to do calculations involving zero) more than Obama who is NOT running for VEEP, but President), her kids (utterly loathesome remark), creationism for crying out loud? Now that the pick is in, just need to keep 'matriculating the ball down the field' to November and make it stick.

Kim, Palin's husband is a s... (Below threshold)
AJ:

Kim, Palin's husband is a stay at home dad. Palin has brought her baby to work with her in order to continue breastfeeding. I really don't think her baby's going to be left in the cold. Good grief. As for the "token woman" comments, give it up. If that's the case, Obama must be the "token black" of the Democratic party, right?

You can already see the Kos... (Below threshold)

You can already see the KosKids foaming at the mouth. They are getting their attacks ready. So, I borrowed one of their attacks and made my own rebuttal...enjoy!

Left: She is one heartbeat away from being the next President. Do we really want her running the country?

Right: Biden is one heartbeat away from being the next President. He's run for the office twice and the American public has already shown they don't want him running the country.

The Obama campaign has alre... (Below threshold)
John Irving:

The Obama campaign has already conceded the election.
"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency."

Since they couldn't possibly rational criticize mayoral experience as inferior to "community organizer," and she has as much or more foreign policy experience than Obama, the only remaining meat to the comment is that she's now "a heartbeat away from the presidency."

And that only describes the winning VP candidate.

In other news, the Obama campaign bus hit another self-made speedbump today.

A weak and false respons... (Below threshold)
mantis:

A weak and false response from you, mantis. Given your party's choices for idol and demigod, however, I hardly expected a more effective riposte.

Says the guy who brushes away the corruptness of the Alaska Republicans with no more than "nu-uh!" Yawn.

I wonder if you understand yet, just how badly the Obambi campaign was hurt by the Palin pick?

I think it's a smart and interesting choice on McCain's part, and said as much. It's also risky, as there are still a lot of unknowns about Palin. We'll see how much Obama was "hurt" by this in the coming weeks, but my guess is not very much. I know you think this puts it in the bag for McCain because the choice will attract a lot of women voters. I'll agree that there will probably be a decent boost in turnout among Republican women (and the PUMAs will go for McCain, but they were going to anyway), but I doubt it will go far beyond that. Btw, who do you think the Democrats are going to send after Palin? You get one guess.

I see McCain is back to his Washington reformer mode (for the moment). In that regard, the effectiveness of the Palin choice will depend on how the trooper investigation plays out, both internally and how it is covered in the national media. If that doesn't go well for her, she'll turn out to be a negative for McCain. Past that, her foreign policy chops, which are completely unknown at this point, will have a big effect, I'm guessing.

My guess is that this hasn't hurt Obama at all yet; we'll have to wait and see how it plays out. Most of the country right now is saying, "Who's Palin?" and "Alaska?". It's a risky choice, but could turn out quite well for McCain. Sorry to interrupt your imaginary victory lap.

Sorry to interrupt your... (Below threshold)
John Irving:

Sorry to interrupt your imaginary victory lap.

Funny, McCain could more accurately state that to Obama.

It's highly possible that this announcement will turn Obama's convention gains into a dead-cat bounce.

It's highly possible tha... (Below threshold)
mantis:

It's highly possible that this announcement will turn Obama's convention gains into a dead-cat bounce.

Highly doubtful, rather. Depending on how she performs in the next two weeks, maybe. The announcement itself won't help much as no one knows who she is yet.

Hillary and Pelosi are prob... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Hillary and Pelosi are probably fit to be tied right about now. Hillary is probably thinking that 2012 just went out the window and Pelosi will lose her spot as most powerful female.

kim465 - I have TWO special... (Below threshold)
Big Mo:

kim465 - I have TWO special needs children, and what you said about Palin makes me laugh. Yes, parents such as us have to do more than regular parents when it comes to our kids. But it doesn't mean life gets put on hold. Causes and careers go forward.

mantis: "Says the guy wh... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

mantis: "Says the guy who brushes away the corruptness of the Alaska Republicans with no more than "nu-uh!" Yawn."

That's what I mean, mantis, about you not really knowing what has happened here. Palin made her chops by tearing into corruption in both major parties. Part of the reason Palin has an 80 percent approval rating in her state, is because she has a very strong reputation for integrity and reform.

If you don't think McCain's people vetted her thoroughly, you are in for a world of hurt beyond anything you have seen yet.

"I know you think this puts it in the bag for McCain because the choice will attract a lot of women voters"

LOL!! That's another blunder of yours, assuming that McCain thinks the same way Obama does, with the same limits to his horizon and depth. No, I am well aware that most Hillary voters will either decide to vote for Obama or just stay home, just as a lot of Conservatives who were unhappy with McCain would still either vote for him or stay home. Certainly, the Palin pick has mollified a lot of conservatives - McCain will see a jump not so much in the polls next week, as he will see a strong jump in contributions and new support from long-time Reaganites. That's one vector where McCain has clearly gained an advantage over Obama - Obama still has to make peace with Hillary's 'PUMA's, while McCain has made a solid concession to his Conservative critics.

"Btw, who do you think the Democrats are going to send after Palin?"

Yes I know, and do you understand what kind of trap has been laid? In 2000, VP Gore badly misunderstood the stakes of the debate and the situation of them. In 1960, VP Nixon was far more substantive in the debates than Kennedy but JFK understood the context than Nixon did. One of Palin's advantages in this debate, is that most of Biden's tactics and idiosyncracies cannot help him in a debate against Palin. I don't think you really understand the tactical conditions of the VP debate, and their strategic significance.

Worse for the Left, if Palin has any weakness it would be an area where the main candidate is stronger, while most of Biden's strengths cannot be noised too loudly, or they will remind voters that the Democrats' main candidate is weak there. Also, the Democrats tried to paint Biden as an outsider, a lie which falls flat as soon as its uttered, while Palin's experience is both clearly executive and clearly non-DC. There is no question that Palin will find a way to make those facts clear in any debate.

I am not assuming anything with so much to go before the election. Obama has a lot of support and is well organized with a lot of money and energy. That said, your own comments and what I have heard so far from the Democrats, including Obama's people, show that you really do not understand how much trouble Palin will be for your campaign. And that makes her a force multiplier for McCain. I do not forget that she is just the veep pick, but wait and see, she's going to make a real difference in a way that Biden, to be blunt, does not.

To: Big Mo, you say you hav... (Below threshold)
kim465:

To: Big Mo, you say you have a special needs child and that she can still do this.

I have a special needs child myself. I can tell you that it is selfish to enter into a 24-7 presidential election with a new baby who needs your attention. The election and VP job are not like a 9 to 5 job. Either she does not intend to do this job and she is just a token for McCain or she is going to abandon her responsibilities to her new baby. This is not about her being a woman, I would say this to a father as well - its about being a morally responsible parent.

As governor of Alaska sh... (Below threshold)
Brian:

As governor of Alaska she has nearly two years of executive experience and Obama has none. Guess what, their running for an executive position.

And as Senator he has nearly three years of federal experience and Palin has none. Guess what, "they're" running for a federal position.

I hope you realize that ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

I hope you realize that after the history of the last half-century or so, there is only one party which could even possibly be tapped as "ultra-corrupt".

Once again, DJ has to go back 50 years to make a point. How about looking at the last 10?

Palin made her chops by ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Palin made her chops by tearing into corruption in both major parties. Part of the reason Palin has an 80 percent approval rating in her state, is because she has a very strong reputation for integrity and reform.

I made that point in my first comment DJ. You responding by saying about the corrupt Alaska Republicans, "Oh yeah, the Democrats are worse!", showing not only that you missed my point, but that you know nothing about Alaska politics.

If you don't think McCain's people vetted her thoroughly, you are in for a world of hurt beyond anything you have seen yet.

Wow, do you live in some kind of pro-wrestling grudge match in your little head? I'm in for a world of hurt? You are a very silly person. I'm sure they vetted her, and as I said much will depend on how the trooper investigation goes, and unless McCain's vetting included the ability to see into the future, that remains uncertain.

That's one vector where McCain has clearly gained an advantage over Obama - Obama still has to make peace with Hillary's 'PUMA's, while McCain has made a solid concession to his Conservative critics.

Obama doesn't have to make peace with the PUMAs. Most of them were Republicans anyway, and winning them over is impossible. PUMAs are a tiny, if very loud (and an easy, lazy story for the media to grasp onto), group. But you know as well as I do that turnout is key, and if you think the conservative concession of the Palin pick is enough to overcome the big gains Democrats are making this year in organization and registration, well, that's very optimistic of you.

One of Palin's advantages in this debate, is that most of Biden's tactics and idiosyncracies cannot help him in a debate against Palin. I don't think you really understand the tactical conditions of the VP debate, and their strategic significance.

We'll see. I don't think Nixon/Kennedy is good parallel to Biden/Palin, but we shall see.

There is no question that Palin will find a way to make those facts clear in any debate.

I'm sure she will, but you seem blind to the drawbacks that I'm certain Biden will make clear (and Hillary Clinton will make clear, with probably even greater impact. She will be Palin's problem in all but the debate(s)).

I am not assuming anything with so much to go before the election.

Could have fooled me.

I also have a special needs... (Below threshold)

I also have a special needs child. In the past my husband was a stay-at-home dad and I worked full time to support our family. Now we have switched and I am the full-time stay-at-home partner while he works to support us.

As I understand it, Palin's husband is a full-time stay-at-home dad so that Palin can have her political career, although Palin has still taken measures such as taking the baby to the governor's office so she can continue breast-feeding. I see nothing wrong with two parents working together to support both a career and a special needs child, in fact I'm energized by it.

Brian, the last 10 are p... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Brian, the last 10 are part of the last 50. It's not as if your team has been clean in any particular set of years. I used 50 to remind, as you tried to evade, that while there have been dirty individuals in both parties at various times and places, when the whole is examined only the Left has a pattern of corruption. Even there, I stop short of claiming a conspiracy or that the Democrats in general are corrupt, for a number of reasons including the fact that there are good honest people who should be praised rather than focusing on the relative few who are bad.

I always use the baromet... (Below threshold)
Brian:

I always use the barometer of the liberal screeching to demonstrate when the republican party does a good thing.

And I always use the barometer of the conservative crowing to demonstrate when they need to convince each other to actually believe what they're saying.

So there.

And as Senator he ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
And as Senator he has nearly three years of federal experience and Palin has none. Guess what, "they're" running for a federal position.

Hope you're not hanging your hat on the "federal" experience hook as four out of the last five Presidents have been Governors.

But this one won't.... (Below threshold)
Brian:

But this one won't.

mantis: "Obama doesn't h... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

mantis: "Obama doesn't have to make peace with the PUMAs. Most of them were Republicans anyway"

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

I'm sorry, please continue ...

"but you seem blind to the drawbacks that I'm certain Biden will make clear (and Hillary Clinton will make clear, with probably even greater impact. She will be Palin's problem in all but the debate(s))."

As to Hillary, I think Obama had better start keeping his promises to her, or you may be surprised at how limited her participation will be this fall. As to Biden, for you to talk about 'drawbacks' and assume he will come out on top, well, I find that enormously ironic and funny, and suspect I will enjoy the debates far more than you do.

"Could have fooled me."

Please forgive me for the lack of tact, but where an Obama supporter is concerned, that is not very difficult.


This woman is under investi... (Below threshold)
Ted:

This woman is under investigation for corruption for trying to have her ex-brother-in-law fired. This is a woman who did indeed give birth to a mentally disabled child and then abandoned that child at 3DAYS OLD to go back to a job that I am sure could have waited at least 6 weeks minimum. I am sure that the Governors office gives an extended paid maternity leave sounds to me as if she was forced to be pro-life when she would have preferred the later leaving that poor TINY BABY to fend without his mother after only three days god help that child and us if this is the best that McCain can do.
Democrats- feel free to run with this:
PALIN:
10)Palin who? Soccer mom that loves fishing..lol.
9) NO Experiene what-so- ever
8) Under investigation for corruption
7) She just had a disable kid in April 08 that
she totally neglected
6) Mayor of a town with 7348 people...lol. Sorry I live in New York.
5) Gas and Big Oil company lover
4) She's crazy enough to let her son sign-up to fight a misguided war in Iraq
3) She makes McCain look even older than he is
2) Joe Biden is going to eat her alive in the VP debate on foreign policies
1) God forbid McCain wins and something happend to him (72yrs)...OMG
depp=true
notiz=You just made my short list with your bigotry.

Clobbergirl:Her hu... (Below threshold)
kim465:

Clobbergirl:

Her husband is not a stay at home dad. He is a fisherman who is out at sea while the special needs baby is with a nanny. She sits comfortably in the governors office hoping for a VP tap. Its okay to have a career, I have one, but it should be tailored to the needs of your children. Like I said, as the mother of a special needs child myself. I can tell you that it is selfish to enter into a 24-7 presidential election with a new baby who needs your attention. The election and VP job are not like a 9 to 5 job. Either she does not intend to do this job and she is just a token for McCain or she is going to abandon her responsibilities to her new baby. This is not about her being a woman, I would say this to a father as well - its about being a morally responsible parent.

Good point Mantis, the Alas... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Good point Mantis, the Alaska Republicans were known for some corruption, of couse is was orders of magnitude less than the Chicago Democrats.

Now Palin has a record of fighting corruption in Alaska while Obama has a record of joining the club in Chicago. Yup you make a good argument for Palin.

Keep it up you lefties, I'm lovin' it.

Obama got an <a href="http:... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Obama got an 8-point bounce. Let's see what McCain gets.

"Stay-at-home dad" may have... (Below threshold)

"Stay-at-home dad" may have been a bit of a stretch, but it sounds like Todd Palin is very involved in the family's home life:

At home, (Todd) Palin takes care of the cooking, the bills and other domestic paperwork, in addition to driving the kids to extracurricular activities like basketball and soccer, according to his wife. He divides much of his time between Wasilla, where Track is recovering from shoulder surgery, and the capital in Juneau, where the Palin girls are in school.

"He can go on just an hour or two of sleep a night. He says, 'I can sleep when I die,' " said Sarah Palin. "There is no way I could have done this job without his tremendous contributions to the home life. He's able to keep it organized, like a well-oiled machine."

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So they are tailoring their lifestyles to meet their children's needs. If I'm understanding you right though Kim, you're arguing that no parent of a special needs child (male or female) can run for President or VP without being "selfish" whether they have a stay-at-home parent involved or not, and as a fellow parent of a special needs child I simply have to disagree. It's entirely possible, especially with a strong family to help.

This is sweet...if Ted is a... (Below threshold)

This is sweet...if Ted is any indication of the kind of attacks the Dems are going to roll out against Palin we can all take a nap.

Clobbergril:I am n... (Below threshold)
kim465:

Clobbergril:

I am not saying that no parent of a special needs child can run for VP. I am saying that having a new special needs baby and 4 other children requires a significant time commitment. When the child is older and they have figured out how to better manage the baby's care then it is an issue of time management. But are you saying that this taxing, incredibly overpowering job, where she will be constantly on the road, on the bus with McCain, with screaming crowds and nervous advisors, lends itself to her spending anytime with the child? Her husband is not staying at home and to say that this was not a selfish choice on her part so early in her baby's life is to ignore the needs of the child. Like I said, pro-life also means you protect and care for the babies once they get here as well. Let's be serious here, with all due respect she did not even take a maternity leave.

By the way I respect you point of view, I just think she is not showing good judgment.

if Ted is any indication... (Below threshold)
Brian:

if Ted is any indication of the kind of attacks the Dems are going to roll out against Palin we can all take a nap.

At 72, McCain probably needs several.

And as Senator he ... (Below threshold)
And as Senator he has nearly three years of federal experience

you mean "nearly three years of voting 'present'"...

kim465 - I said I had TWO s... (Below threshold)
Big Mo:

kim465 - I said I had TWO special needs kids, but that's beside the point.

Palin is already a governor, a 24/7 job. Shouldn't you, who is also a parent of a special needs child, give her the benefit of the doubt that she **knows what she's doing** re: her own family?

I don't know about you, but my wife and I (she loves the Palin pick, BTW) get a LOT of "I don't know how you do it" comments from friends, family and strangers. The simple thing is, we just do it, as most likely you do too.

If she believes that she can balance this position with caring for her special needs child, then more power to her. It's not up to you or me to judge that she's making a choice that's not "morally responsible."

Good point Mantis, the A... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Good point Mantis, the Alaska Republicans were known for some corruption, of couse is was orders of magnitude less than the Chicago Democrats.

If you say so, then it must be true.

Now Palin has a record of fighting corruption in Alaska while Obama has a record of joining the club in Chicago.

Obama stayed notoriously distant from Chicago machine politics, ran as a reformer in Hyde Park (just like Palin did for governor), and pissed off more than a few in Springfield by pushing campaign finance reform through the state senate in his first year there, and then making the laws even tougher in 2003 after the Democrats took over.

Yup you make a good argument for Palin.

There are good arguments for Palin, but "Obama's corrupt" ain't one of them. It'll be interesting to see if McCain tries it, though (I doubt it; they're smarter than you are). The Obama campaign can just run the ad with Kirk Dillard, Republican and McCain delegate, touting Obama's bipartisan outreach on ethics reform and cleaning up Illinois politics.

Kim, I respect your point o... (Below threshold)

Kim, I respect your point of view as well for sure. I think it's worth bearing in mind that her eldest son is 18 and eldest daughter is 16. Between support from her husband and eldest children, I think it's possible for her to do the job and find a good balance.

Best wishes to you and your little one for sure.

At 72, McCain probably n... (Below threshold)

At 72, McCain probably needs several.

Thanks for that. The best part of your trollage is that a reader can really, really tell that you think you're doing well, making clever points. Insert your own favorite memory of Cary Elwes fighting Andre the Giant and "I just want you to feel you're doing well..."

Too bad Obama just chose TO BE A HEARTBEAT FROM THE PRESIDENCY!!!! a guy that's pretty much as old as McCain whose been a Senator longer than I've been alive (and I ain't that young anymore).

Amazing. One swell foop and there isn't a single argument about darned near anything that Dems can make that can't instantly and effortlessly be turned against them to make them look worse. Unless, I guess, they start bragging that no one on their ticket will ever go through menopause or something. That'll probably be a big vote grabber.

How silly of me to think th... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

How silly of me to think the Chicago Democrat machine is currupt. (lol) And I'm sure that Obama rose to prominence so quickly by "staying outside"- that makes sense, not.

Well anyway my point was that I haven't yet seen an argument against Palin put up by a leftist where Obama was better than Palin on that issue.

But that's just my opinion. Too bad for your side that people tend to vote based on their opinions--not of the leftist version of the "facts".

Thanks for that. The bes... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Thanks for that. The best part of your trollage is that a reader can really, really tell that you think you're doing well, making clever points.

And I can tell we're doing well when one of you posts snark, someone responds with snark, and then you attack the RESPONSE for being snarky.

Too bad Obama just chose TO BE A HEARTBEAT FROM THE PRESIDENCY!!!! a guy that's pretty much as old as McCain

And too bad McCain just chose TO BE A HEARTBEAT FROM THE PRESIDENCY!!!! a woman that's less experienced in state and federal-level government than Obama.

a guy that's pretty much as old as McCain

Six years younger is "pretty much as old". Got it.

whose been a Senator longer than I've been alive (and I ain't that young anymore).

And longer than McCain has.

there isn't a single argument about darned near anything that Dems can make that can't instantly and effortlessly be turned against them to make them look worse.

Same to you.

little-boy Brian: "McCai... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

little-boy Brian: "McCain just chose ... a woman that's less experienced in state and federal-level government than Obama."

I doubt that claim in terms of genuine applicable experience. But anyway, it's not relevant because the race is for an executive position, something Ms. Palin has done briefly but well, while Obama has not even a day in such roles, and Biden - for all his years as a professional blowhard and rhetorical thug - has not a day in such roles himself.

Small wonder you are so emotionally overwrought.

To quote myself from anothe... (Below threshold)
Brian:

To quote myself from another thread...

Funny how the right shouted "no foreign policy experience" until Obama picked Biden and McCain picked Palin. Now suddenly it's "executive experience" (although Palin has a mere 18 months). If all candidates had the same exact experience, you'd be looking to see if Palin had a paper route longer.

Small wonder you resort to insults to try to make yourself feel better.

"Executive Experience"...Le... (Below threshold)
Sven:

"Executive Experience"...Let's see:

Palin has 18 months in a state with a population about the size of a University of Michigan home game.
Obama has none.
Biden has none.
McCain has none.

Sorry, the election is not about "executive experience".

So Sven, just ignore the in... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

So Sven, just ignore the inconvenient?

I could tell you where that gets you, but I don't think you'd listen.

And Brian, just sit and rest awhile. You'll feel better sooner and sound far less foolish than you are just now.

Has she been to Iraq? I kno... (Below threshold)
Hannah Stevens:

Has she been to Iraq? I know McCain made a big deal Of Obama not having gone to Iraq lately. What does she know about the ME, Russia, Georgia the Balkins. She's a journalism major, does she know world history? Does she understand constitutional law? What about economics at the macro level? I think this woman was merely chosen to pick up Hillary votes, but that is not a reason to select a vice president. I think McCain just put more votes in the Obama bucket, which is good. McCain is old and could very well croak while he is in office and to have a journalism major as pres... well bush was pres w/o much experience, but then look what he did to the country.

THE DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING S... (Below threshold)
Gina:

THE DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING SCARED ...
Sarah Palin having been a mayor, and a governor with an 80% approval rating, while raising 5 children, is more experienced and more qualified to manage this country than Barack Obama ... who was a community organizer, and spent half of his short time in the senate campaigning for President. Democrats brag about the success of their convention, when the only thing notable about it was the size of the crowd, and the fireworks. Obama's speech was the same old platitudes and grand promises, with broad generalities on how how he would deliver. Elect McCain/Palin in November !!!

So Sven, just ignore the... (Below threshold)
Brian:

So Sven, just ignore the inconvenient?

As you switch focus exclusively to the convenient?

And Brian, just sit and rest awhile. You'll feel better sooner and sound far less foolish than you are just now.

And you lay off the angry juice. Though I feel just fine with Obama's 8 point jump today, thank you very much.

Funny how the righ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Funny how the right shouted "no foreign policy experience" until Obama picked Biden

It was a trick to get Obama to pick an old white guy. Once Obama did, McCain sprung the trap. You got to remember that, as a military officer, McCain studied strategy and tactics.

Well that certainly explain... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Well that certainly explains it.

There are some who post her... (Below threshold)
Maggie:

There are some who post here, as Hannah Stevens,
who have a death wish for Mr.McCain.

You might do better in life if you were to get
some of these oldsters to share some knowledge
and wisdom with you. Otherwise you'll certainly
continue to look foolish in ridiculing them.

Just consider this a heads up.

edit:
Correcting my own bad grammar.

What does she know... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
What does she know about the ME, Russia, Georgia the Balkins.

Probably as much as Obama.

does she know world history?

How much does she need to know when Obama thinks there are 58 states?

Does she understand constitutional law?

You mean like Obama thinking the second ammendment didn't apply to individuals. Of course he changed his mind when the Supreme court ruled that it does apply to individuals. Palin knew that all along and is a life time member of the NRA.

I think this woman was merely chosen to pick up Hillary votes, but that is not a reason to select a vice president.

After Obama's failed pick of an old white guy for his VP, McCain wanted to show that he's the true agent of change in Washington. Yes, many women are frustrated that no woman has ever been President or Vice-President. They had their hopes up with Hillary and while Obama cares, he just doesn't get it. McCain cares, gets it, and did something about it. Now will see if women get it.

Hanna...How many of ... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Hanna...
How many of the 50 govs have been to Iraq in the last 18 months?
Does Obama "know world history"? Given some of his gaffes on things like the Cuban missle crisis, one can argue his knowledge is shakey.

Brian: "I feel just fine... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Brian: "I feel just fine with Obama's 8 point jump today, thank you very much."

Fair enough. You get the lead now, the one I care about is the one McCain will have November 4.

Brian,"And I can t... (Below threshold)
Kenny:

Brian,

"And I can tell we're doing well when one of you posts snark, someone responds with snark, and then you attack the RESPONSE for being snarky."

Too bad that all we get from you is snark, cherry-picked random facts and projection:

"Small wonder you resort to insults to try to make yourself feel better."


John McCain is a competitiv... (Below threshold)
Herman:

John McCain is a competitive man. He knew that it would take a lot to beat Chimpy's pick of a horse-show lawyer to run the Federal Emergency Management Agency as the dumbest pick in recent memory. I don't quite think he's surpassed Bush here, but his choice of Palin does manage to beat out Miers-for-the-Supreme-Court in the stupidity department.

One would have to go back nearly four decades to find a major-party candidate as unqualified as Palin, and I'm not even sure that she in fact beats out the Republican crook Spiro Agnew in this department. This Alaskan governor, WITH LESS THAN TWO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS GOVERNOR, IS THE PERSON YOU REPUBLICANS ARE CHOOSING TO BE IMMEDIATELY READY TO ASSUME THE DUTIES OF THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES SHOULD AN ELECTED McCAIN (72 YEARS OLD) SUDDENLY BECOME UNABLE TO DO SO. But hey, as we know from the 2004 elections, you Republicans have no qualms about choosing the incompetent and the unqualified to be your leaders.

"As governor of Alaska she has nearly two years of executive experience and Obama has none." -- Mac Lorry

Please spare us from this kind of stupid logic, conservatives. Mac and DJ, how many years of "executive" experience did JFK have when he ran against the Republican crook Nixon??? Did his lack of "executive" experience prevent him from eventually having his portrait placed on American currency???? Or how much "executive" experience did Abraham Lincoln have upon becoming president?

If you value this "executive" experience so much, then of course you'll be pleading with your fellow Republicans to place Palin on TOP of the Republican ticket when they meet in Minneapolis, for how many years of "executive" experience does McCain himself have, DJ and Mac???? Is it less than that for Governor Palin? Give us a nice round number. Hint: very round.

The Republicans could have tried for a part of the Hillary vote with someone like Senator Kay Hutchison, with plenty of years of experience. Instead, they chose a pretty cheerleader. While I don't have much confidence in the American electorate, I do think that such superficiality will be a turn-off.

Herman,"One would ... (Below threshold)
Kenny:

Herman,

"One would have to go back nearly four decades to find a major-party candidate as unqualified as Palin"

Bzzzzzzzt. You're wrong.

We only need to look at Barack Obama to find someone less qualified.

Herman I could go back as f... (Below threshold)
Rich:

Herman I could go back as far as last night to find a major party nominating someone more unqualified than Palin. Barak Strike-a-Pose Obama is not qualified. Palin would be in office working for the country. Obama's cardboard cut out and a sign proclaiming him present doesn't do much for the country.

John McCain chose this fema... (Below threshold)
P:

John McCain chose this female who broke the law by using the influence that her office has to pressure her brother in-law boss into firing him for divorcing her sister, and challenging her in court to gain custody of his children. What kind of person would force someone to fire their brother in-law she that her sister can gain custody, so he would not be able to take care of his kids, and we all know the courts will not give anyone custody if they can not financially take care of their kids, all women should be seriously mad! Republicans always talk about families but they never live up to them, she is as bad as the adulterer John McCain!

[Biden's] run for the of... (Below threshold)
Brian:

[Biden's] run for the office ... and the American public has already shown they don't want him running the country.

Kind of like when Reagan chose Bush Sr., eh?

I love all this talk from t... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

I love all this talk from the left about experience.

Lemme see, we've got a warrior turned politician running with a business woman turned community leader turned Mayor turned Governor, verses 2 lawyers.

Yes, lefties, lets have this discussion on life experience.

Or is it political experien... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Or is it political experience you'd like to talk about.

Obama won his state office by using legal technicalities to eliminate his competition, then won his senate seat due in large part to the unsubstanciated testimony of Jeri Ryan.

On the other hand, while Palin failed in her first attempt at statewide office, she then went on to beat a not so popular, but nonetheless a sitting Governor in the primary and then a popular former Governor in the general.

Obama supporters are always... (Below threshold)
Gina:

Obama supporters are always trying to give the false impression that Obama has soooo many people who want him ... but, in reality, in both the primaries, and in this general election, Obama cannot get more than half of the voters. Actually, Palin has more experience and qualifications than Obama. Obama was a community organizer, with no executive experience, who has spent most of his short term as a senator, running for President. Palin, a mayor, and a governor, has already stood up to special interests and big oil companies, while Obama has not shown any kahonies yet, except for when he threw his friend, advisor and mentor of 20 years, under the bus. If Palin could get 90% of the women's vote, because she is a woman ... just like Obama gets 90% of the black vote, because he is black ... it would be good for our country.

I have a special needs c... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

I have a special needs child myself. I can tell you that it is selfish to enter into a 24-7 presidential election with a new baby who needs your attention. The election and VP job are not like a 9 to 5 job.

Well, I'm sorry, but this paragraph is a whole mess of stupid.

1) You know, the benefits of being VP is having a house staff...it's not like she MUST BE AT THE CHILD SIDE every single moment of the day.

2) Being a governor of a state isn't exactly a 9-5 job either, but it hasn't seem to slow her down, has it?

3) There are plenty of women who can and are able to balance the needs of these children and still have a career.

"Obama doesn't have to m... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

"Obama doesn't have to make peace with the PUMAs. Most of them were Republicans anyway"

Oh, Mantis! I didn't know you could be this funny! And, besides, what sort of proof that these women are Republicans anyway?

The head honcho, "riverdaughter" happens to be a frequent DKos writer! Sure, I bet lots of Republican women write for Daily Kos...

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/about-me/

The trolls are out en masse... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

The trolls are out en masse tonight, I see:

Has she been to Iraq?
Has Obama? Has John Edwards? Would you have asked this quesetion if Edwards had made the ticket?

She has, however, been to Kuwait.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_2.jpg

http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=510&type=1

I know McCain made a big deal Of Obama not having gone to Iraq lately. What does she know about the ME, Russia, Georgia the Balkins.

What does Obama know? Probably a bit more now that he is the nominee (because nominees will get intelligence briefings)

Frankly, what do most people know about Georgia and the Balkins (the Balkins? ) Like ALL the candidates, she will get daily intelligence updates as well...she will likely know more than you.

She's a journalism major, does she know world history?

Obama is a lawyer, does he know world history?
Biden is a lawyer, does he know world history?

What kind of dumb-arsed question is that?


Does she understand constitutional law?

I imagine if she can govern a state, she can probably read a statute book just as well as anyone else with more than two firing neurons.


What about economics at the macro level?

What kind of gobbley-gook question is that? "At the macro level." Do you mean, can she do more than balance the family chequebook?

"In June 2007, Palin signed into law a $6.6 billion operating budget--the largest in Alaska's history.[42] At the same time, she used her veto power to make the second-largest cuts of the construction budget in state history. The $237 million in cuts represented over 300 local projects, and reduced the construction budget to nearly $1.6 billion.[43]"

(Wiki)

I think this woman was merely chosen to pick up Hillary votes, but that is not a reason to select a vice president.

Nor is it a reason to elect a president, nor is race a reason to elect a president, frankly.
She is going to pick up few Hillarity! voters...what she WILL do, though, is get a number of unenthused Republican/Conservatives to actually go out and vote, as well as pull in some more Independants and Libertarians.


I think McCain just put more votes in the Obama bucket, which is good.

There's a hole in that bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza...

McCain is old and could very well croak while he is in office and to have a journalism major as pres...

Hey, guess who was originally going to go into journalism before running for political office?

Give you three guesses:

1. J
2. F
3. K.

"After World War II, Kennedy had considered the option of becoming a journalist before deciding to run for political office." (Wiki, again)

As far as the croaking? Well, death is a calculated risk in the Presidency. Whether by health, or a shot in the head.


Stop digging that hole.

Now, as a personal aside...... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Now, as a personal aside...my thoughts. I have been very unenthusiastic about McCain, and was not very sanguine about having to pull a lever for McMaverick. But, this surprise addition has caused me to give the man another look. I've liked Palin for the past few years, especially when she decided to sue the federal government over the right to drill in her own state. She can talk coherently without a teleprompter (something Obama, and even Bush have a hard time doing).

So...she not only smart, and tough, she (ahem) clean and articulate too! Even Biden would have to agree! :)

ohn McCain chose this fe... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

ohn McCain chose this female who broke the law by using the influence that her office has to pressure her brother in-law boss into firing him for divorcing her sister, and challenging her in court to gain custody of his children. What kind of person would force someone to fire their brother in-law she that her sister can gain custody, so he would not be able to take care of his kids, and we all know the courts will not give anyone custody if they can not financially take care of their kids, all women should be seriously mad! Republicans always talk about families but they never live up to them, she is as bad as the adulterer John McCain!

1. She is under "investigation" for firing the Commissioner of Public Safety, who refused to fire her State trouper husband of her sister, who admitted to spousal abuse and child abuse. The people who commissioned the "investigation" have acknowledged that she had a perfect right to fire him, as it is an Executive position, appointed by the Governor.

She is not only cooperating, she is actively assisting the investigators.

2. "she is as bad as the adulterer John McCain!"...

Kicking to the curb a wife and childbeater is just as bad as cheating on your (first) wife. Which he had admitted, and felt bad about. Oh, yeah, I can see the connection...?

And really, considering the last Democrat president's marital fidelities, do you really want to go there?


If you value this "executive" experience so much, then of course you'll be pleading with your fellow Republicans to place Palin on TOP of the Republican ticket when they meet in Minneapolis, for how many years of "executive" experience does McCain himself have, DJ and Mac?

If only she WAS on the top of the ticket! Nevertheless, it's the OBAMA camp that is whinging about her "lack of experience" (the pot calling the kettle black...ooh! Racist!)

McCain's wife said Palin ha... (Below threshold)

McCain's wife said Palin has foreign policy experience because Alaska is close to Russia.

WHAT?!

Stupid move. This isn't giving Obama any headaches at all. Guarantee it.

Does McCain really think th... (Below threshold)
Amie:

Does McCain really think that women who supported Hillary are such mindless idiots that they will vote for Palin just because she's a woman? It is very insulting and I'm surprised more women don't feel this way. Secondly, Palin was a horrible choice. For someone who is so "family oriented" she needs to stop looking for attention and spend some time managing her own family and pursue her political career down the road. As a mother, I would never leave my sick child in the hands of anyone else. I would WANT to be there for him/her. Yes, this sounds a bit sexist but COME ON! A new baby is a big responsibility, especially a sick one who is the youngest child of FIVE children. Thirdly, her own teenage daughter is pregnant??? Do I really need to get into that one? Next, we need someone in the white house who is going to look after our climate and environment. For someone who has supported ariel shooting of wolves and wants to drill in Alaska, I don't think she intends on helping in that department. For all of you who think she is "amazing" (as one of you wrote), WAKE UP and get a brain. I think this mistake for the Republicans is fantastic because I don't think the majority of Americans are that stupid to actually vote for disaster of a team.

"Does McCain really think t... (Below threshold)
Isaac Showalter:

"Does McCain really think that women WHO SUPPORTED HILLARY ARE SUCH MINDLESS IDIOTS THAT THEY WOULD VOTE FOR PALIN JUST BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN?.........." The answer to that resides in the question and is as obvious as gorilla in a parakeet cage.

Is the person who wrote thi... (Below threshold)

Is the person who wrote this tiny article for real? She is the worst VP choice--for either party--in modern US political history.

Picture this: JM dying 3 1/2 yrs into his 1st term--can you actually picture this hick running the world's most powerful nation? If you can, you have a genetic defect, and don't know it yet, until modern medicine makes more advances. She is not even close to being presidential-material. Again, don't fool yourself--just because she believes (w/ great public conviction) in religious fairy-tales, and is a staunch pro-lifer, does not even make her REMOTELY close to being qualified.

She is a hick, a horrendous public speaker, and has only travelled to the following countries:

Canada
Iraq (you know why)
Kuwait (you know why--see above)

Wake-up and choose a qualified and experienced team to take you out of the black hole you find yourself in...




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