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Before Liberals Dismiss Governor Palin's Experience as Commander in Chief of Alaska's National Guard

They need to read this from Jimbo at Blackfive who published a note from Tom W that explains that Governor Sarah Palin most certainly has experience with national defense issues:

Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It's on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.

As governor of Alaska, Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden's.

She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counterterrorism plans.

Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska's proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we don't even know about.

According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets.

She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.

This is so interesting. I had no idea Alaska's National Guard was so vital to our national security. You can read more about the Alaska National Guard and its role in our Missile Defense System here and here. This again shows that Governor Palin has more experience and is more prepared for the job than Barack Obama.

Hat tip: Jonah Goldberg and Jonathan Adler at The Corner.


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Geezer/Gidget '08!!<p... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

Geezer/Gidget '08!!

What a joke. The McCain camp can immediately and forever cram their "inexperience" card where the sun doesn't shine.

Tell me, is the "executive experience" of being mayor of Wasilla, AK, (Pop. 5500) much better than my aunt's chairmanship of the Logan School District PTA, (members 2500)?

This is a desperate pick, trying to peel off women and Hillary Clinton supporters. Women who identify with Palin were already voting GOP. Clinton supporters won't back someone who is personally against the use of birth control between married couples.

For a 72 year old man who's battled cancer 4 times to pick Gidget to be one failing heartbeat away from the leader of the free world is a joke Americans aren't laughing at.

Tell me, is the "executi... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Tell me, is the "executive experience" of being mayor of Wasilla, AK, (Pop. 5500) much better than my aunt's chairmanship of the Logan School District PTA, (members 2500)

Actually, the Republicans are counting Palin's PTA experience.

unbelievable. is this comme... (Below threshold)
billy:

unbelievable. is this commentaruy satire or are you really that much of a dunce. i shutter at the thought of this liar being president. first she abuses power to gfet her brother in law fired, now she flip[ flops on the bridge to nowhere and has lied about her teenage daughters kid pretending it is hers. she is too old to have a child and wasnt preganat. i would have voted for mccain but this is simply bizzare. now he is canceling the convention. i cannot envision this soccer mom being president and if she was al qaeda would be real happy so i will; vote for obama.

barack obama has been vette... (Below threshold)
tom delay:

barack obama has been vetted for the job by the american people. no one did or ever would vote for palin to be president. hockey moms are demographics you try to get to vote for you, not someone you appoint to vp. mcain lacks the judgment to be commander of the us.

Wow, four comments and not ... (Below threshold)

Wow, four comments and not one of them actually addresses Kim's article. Any one of them could be cut and pasted and stuck on to any thread about Palin -- and, I suspect, probably are.

I'm kind of curious how long it will take a commenter to actually discuss Kim's point as to Palin's experiences as Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard. So far, we're up to four (and I won't count mine). I'm betting it'll hit double digits before someone even attempts to rebut what Kim (and Blackfive) said.

J.

Oh, good! The mysogynists ... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:

Oh, good! The mysogynists are out tonight.

Ryan, if you really don't know the difference between what a small town mayor does and the head of the PTA, I suggest that you turn on ANY television station and watch the news about Gustav.

Small town mayors do pretty much the same thing that big town mayors do - they just do it on a smaller scale. Except, when their communities are in trouble - be it economic or the result of a national disaster - there is less margin for making a mistake. The loss of one major industry can doom a small town. As is the case multiple times a year, a single tornado can wipe out an entire community.

In those cases, those small town mayors - who you so enjoy making fun of - really do things above their pay grade. Suddenly, they have to be grief counselors, disaster specialists, urban planners, etc., etc, etc. They may not longer have a home or job, but they have to keep going for the community. And generally, no one (state or federal) is rushing to give them millions of dollars.

Oh, when you get a chance, make sure you tell your aunt that you were talking down her community contribution. She can kick your ass for the rest of us.

I might have to revise my c... (Below threshold)

I might have to revise my count. "billy" and "tom delay" posted from the same Comcast IP in Washington two minutes apart.

A third identity will get that IP banned.

J.

Jay, there's not much in re... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Jay, there's not much in response one can say to "Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska's proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we don't even know about."

The absurdity is too overwhelming.

Ummm, Brian, if you thin... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter (still amused after all):

Ummm, Brian, if you think the claim is "absurd", then you can say "The claim is absurd ..." and provide us with a link to factual information that proves your claim is true.

Since you haven't, we have to assume that you can't.

Kim:I think you hit ... (Below threshold)
engineer:

Kim:
I think you hit a nerve.
I guess name calling and outright lies are what goes for discussion from our troll friends.

This is so funny. We see O... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

This is so funny. We see Obama's familiars posting nothing but rubish and nonsense against Palin. They know they can't touch her on the issues and their gender biased attacks only server to drive more and more women to McCain. Palin was a brilliant pick because it strips Obama of his novelty and that was the last thing he had going for him. Now that the race is about issues, the left is running scared. This is so funny.

Do any of you even know wha... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Do any of you even know what the military does in Alaska? Yeah didn't think so.

As for tom/ Billy gee if you are going to use 2 ids at least use one that can have proper English. Please. You are killing my eyes.

So tell me Brian what experience does Obama have again? 147 days in the Senate? reading bills and making what executive decisions again?

Again, Palin is running for VP. Someone said cancer 4 times but they are obviously using those "scare tactics" to just gloss over the type, severity of the cancer. Hell, Ruth Bader Ginsberg had cancer what? 20 years ago?

You guys are grasping at straws and it is showing quite badly. Governor's have security clearances as they are briefed on military facilities in their states, homeland security matters, etc. Are you trying to imply that Governors don't have the qualifications to become President, as many of the past 10-20 President have been in that job.

How about Governor of a state with 1.5 million population? Are they qualified to become President? After all that is about what Arkansas had when Bill Clinton was elected.

Lets do some more comparisions


Area
Arkansas - 53,000 square miles
Alaska - 656,000 square miles
Vermont ( Howard Dean was a democratic front 9615 square miles
Deleware (Biden's stomping grounds) - 1954 square miles

Population
Arkansas population - 2.5 million (now)
Alaska - 750 thousand
Vermont - 639 thousand
Delaware - 543 thousand

GDP

Arkansas - $97 B
Alaska - $44 b
New Hampshire - $57 b
Vermont - $24 B


Major Military bases

Arkansas - zero (that I can thin of)
Deleware - zero (that I can think of)
Vermont - zero (that I can think of)
Alaska - at least 2 that I can think of off the top of my head.

Shall we go on with the comparisions. Howard Dean didnt run a state nearly as diverse population wise and he was contendor for the top spot not too long ago. In addition, BIden comes from a state which is smaller, has less people, and a smaller GDP with not nearly the economic potential Alaska has.


The first rule of holes, in case you liberals didn't know it, is to stop digging.

Here....now we know what he... (Below threshold)
PeachPit:

Here....now we know what her "experience" really is (Huffington Post)

Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, considers Palin "extremely responsive and smart" and says she is in charge when it comes to in-state services, such as emergencies and natural disasters where the National Guard is the first responder.

But, in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday, he said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.

Ryan - "Tell me, is the... (Below threshold)
marc:

Ryan - "Tell me, is the "executive experience" of being mayor of Wasilla, AK, (Pop. 5500) much better than my aunt's chairmanship of the Logan School District PTA, (members 2500)?"

I have to ask, because I honestly don't know, were you as concerned about Slick Willy that came out of Hope Arkansas (pop. as of 2005 10,467) that elicited The Slickster to end his convention with: "I still believe in a place called Hope"

I really got a kick out of ... (Below threshold)
jpe:

I really got a kick out of that post. Looks like even Palin's staunch supporters know what a terrible pick she was. I mean, if you're resorting to the deep national security cred that goes with being the governor of Alaska.....I'll be surprised if she's still the nominee by November.

tom delay - "barack oba... (Below threshold)
marc:

tom delay - "barack obama has been vetted for the job by the american people. no one did or ever would vote for palin to be president."

Did the "American people" vet Biden for the VP slot?

To this point I've resisted saying the dems are scared of the VP choice, I'm seriously reconsidering given the amount of "trollage" that it has produced.

Dear trolls, if she's so insignificant on the national level why all the smears and troll droppings?

Holy mother of God you folk... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Holy mother of God you folks have lost your mind - the size of the Alaska National Guard is roughly the size ( maybe a little larger) of ONE BATALLION.

Now lets give some credit to this lady - but being the commander f of a battalion is the job of a a Lt. Colonel.

You make a mockery of your vp candidate and yourself when you talk about her "experience" as Commander of the Alaska National Guard.

Those who want to dismiss P... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Those who want to dismiss Palin's experience forget that four out of the last five Presidents were Governors. The President is the chief decision maker and the only similar position is that of Governor. The left says that Palin is not qualified to be President, yet she's more qualified than Obama, so by extension the left is finally admitting that Obama is not qualified to be President.

I just hope the country see... (Below threshold)
PeachPit:

I just hope the country sees how shallow this pick was....

Palin was picked to pick up the evangelical vote and that was the only reason. It wasn't to get Hillary voters...

If you look at all the other contenders, each one had a problem with the religous right

Lieberman - jewish
romney - mormon
ridge - pro choice
rudy - pro choice and a crossdresser

He had to pick her. It was so Mavericky.

Mac.....that would be true ... (Below threshold)
PeachPit:

Mac.....that would be true if the GOP wouldn't of slammed lack of experience down our throats..now it can be a part of the discussion on both sides. Makes the argument a push.

But, in an intervi... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:
But, in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday, he said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.

Since you didn't include your source, I can't check this for myself.

Are you seriously suggesting that the federal government would activate a unit as the first line of defense against an attack from Russia and wouldn't brief the governor of the state to be attacked?

Hopefully, the source explained it better than the snippet you posted does.

Yes, we all know from the description that the projects are federal. That doesn't answer "what she knew and when she knew it though". What the commander knows (or doesn't know) doesn't explain what the governor knows either.

I think that the level of her involvement has been overstated, but saying she has no involvement makes no sense either.

PeachPit - "He had to p... (Below threshold)
marc:

PeachPit - "He had to pick her. It was so Mavericky."

Glad to see a troll, oops sorry... someone on the left figured it out.

By perchance in your all-knowing wisdom can you point to where you predicted this outcome? Prior to 5 minutes after is was announced I mean.

And BTW, the Biden pick was oh so... ole school politician as opposed to all hopey and changefullness.

Mac.....that would... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:
Mac.....that would be true if the GOP wouldn't of slammed lack of experience down our throats..now it can be a part of the discussion on both sides. Makes the argument a push.

No, I'm pretty sure your candidate still loses in the experience argument.

On another topic, but appro... (Below threshold)
marc:

On another topic, but appropriate I believe, if your going to whine and cry about Palin not being vetted for the VP slot by the "American people" can we asssume you're not in favor of Biden as the VP slot?

After all, he was "vetted" for the Presidential spot TWICE and got thoroughly trounced for that position.

PeachptLieberman J... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Peachpt

Lieberman Jewish and that is why he wasnt chosen?

How about the fact that he is a democrat, (okay was till they kicked him out), pro choice, and cauceses with the democrats.

And you say he wasn't chosen because he is JEWISH??

Are you that freaking clueless?

As for experience. Even if Palins was as thin as the left tries to make out you keep glossing over the fact that your thinness (shall we say transparency ? ) is that the TOP of the ticket.

Also as I pointed out above.

Dean from Vermont was a serious contender for the Dem ticket before for President, comes from a much smaller state, with less population, and a smaller GDP. I wonder what the National Guard Contigent of Vermont is.

Biden comes from Deleware, very comparable to ALaska in population, and GPD, and he didnt even run anything in the state.

Mac.....that would... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Mac.....that would be true if the GOP wouldn't of slammed lack of experience down our throats..now it can be a part of the discussion on both sides. Makes the argument a push.

Go ahead and push the experience thing. Obama is running for President, so if elected he has to be ready day one. Palin is running for VP, so it's unlikely she'll be president day one. Obama's experience is minimal and only as a legislator. Palin's experience is minimal, but has a governor. Recent history shows that voter prefer Governors 4 to 1 over legislators. If Palin is not qualified to be VP then Obama is certainly not qualified to be President.

Oh, and it's great to see the left making baseless gender biased attacks. Obama is being burred alive by his own familiars. Just get out of the hole Obama is going to have to apologize for everyone of these attacks and disown the people who are making them.

You're really a Republican trying to make the left look like sexist bigots, right?

Ummm, Brian, if you thin... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Ummm, Brian, if you think the claim is "absurd", then you can say "The claim is absurd ..." and provide us with a link to factual information that proves your claim is true.

Well, for as much as can be proven, here.

I can't disprove "she may have security clearances we don't even know about" any more than you can disprove that her actions are controlled by magical unicorns in space.

Since you haven't, we have to assume that you can't.

Oh, so sorry! You lose!

Mac, Palin is not running f... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

Mac, Palin is not running for president, we get that. She is running for VP behind a guy with one foot and half the toes on the other foot in the grave.

So, yes, she may not have to be president on day 1, but day 30, 40, or 100 are plausable

Stop calling us "misogynists". I don't hate women, I married one and voted for one for president of the United States in the primary.

I hate Republicans and what they have done to my country.

I have to ask, because I... (Below threshold)
Brian:

I have to ask, because I honestly don't know, were you as concerned about Slick Willy that came out of Hope Arkansas (pop. as of 2005 10,467) that elicited The Slickster to end his convention with: "I still believe in a place called Hope"

Perhaps you should instead ask, did "Slick Willy" claim to have been mayor of Hope, and that it provided valuable experience for being president?

Those who want to dismis... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Those who want to dismiss Palin's experience forget that four out of the last five Presidents were Governors.

Were they governors of states with a population that's 25% of Brooklyn's? Were they governors for less than two years?

Oh, you must be "forgetting" that.

What was Obama governor of ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

What was Obama governor of again?
(answer - none)

And how long was he in the senate prior to starting his run for President? (answer - 147 days)

And who is at the TOP of the Dem ticket?
(answer Obama)

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You know if you folks think that Palin is such a BAD PICK why not use the first rule of warfare? When your opponent is about to make a mistake then be quiet and let them.

Instead you are screaming bloody murder.

I wonder why?

"She is running for VP behind a guy with one foot and half the toes on the other foot in the grave. "

Gee. umm McCain's mother is umm 95 or 96. McCain's father was 70 when he died. Average age for men today is what 77?
Aren't you being a tad disengenous and exaggerating just a bit about McCain being ready to croak?

If you are SO SURE that McCain and Palin won't get elected why bother to come here at all. I mean you KNOW that your side are going to win don't you. By posting here it shows that you have extreme doubts about your candidate's ability.

"If you are SO SURE that... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

"If you are SO SURE that McCain and Palin won't get elected why bother to come here at all. I mean you KNOW that your side are going to win don't you. By posting here it shows that you have extreme doubts about your candidate's ability."

Because it's fun, RM.

If the average man lives to 77, than McCain at 72, after 4 bouts of cancer and being tortured in Vietnam, you can't deny that he is pushing it.

You and I are partisan hacks. There's no doubt about that. But the independants in the country are the voters who decide elections. Listen to me and take what I say to heart. Your side can bitch and moan to high heaven about the credentials of Sen. Obama, but the fact is that he's been running in the public eye for 18 months with the same shit being thrown at him, and he still leads McCain in the polls. The American people have vetted him.

You're fooling yourselves if you don't think the voters who will decide this election look at the half-dead McCain and say Sarah WHO???
depp=true
notiz=Stow it with the incivility. Short List

Shit, I didn't even mention... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

Shit, I didn't even mention her ethics trouble. I should have said "Sarah WHO's under investigation by the Republican-controlled Alaskan legislature?"

" Your side can bitch and m... (Below threshold)
retired military:

" Your side can bitch and moan to high heaven about the credentials of Sen. Obama, but the fact is that he's been running in the public eye for 18 months with the same shit being thrown at him, and he still leads McCain in the polls. The American people have vetted him.
"

Funny last poll I saw said that McCain was up by 2. And the only real poll that matters is the one on election day.

Also he has been running and getting whose votes? Democrats. That's it. And his main opponent was HILLARY!!!! Come on. THat is like saying my Pit Bull won a beauty contest against an alligator. Do you actually think that crap that you wrote means something?

Tell you what Ryan. Put your money where your mouth is and lets see just sure you are of Obama winning.

If Obama wins I never post on this site again.

If OBama loses you never post on this site again.

Moderators can ban our IP address.

Are you man enough to take a simple bet? Are you that confident in Obama winning. I am not that confident in McCain winning but in Obama losing.

BTW I take umbredge at being called a partisian hack. I detest some of the things that McCain has said and done. Can you say the same about Obama?

The only reason I am voting for McCain is that he is slightly less of a disaster for the country than Obama would be and if you look at my posts from a few months ago McCain should be glad the is getting my vote at all.

Let me know about the bet okay.

I'm going to step in here a... (Below threshold)

I'm going to step in here and squash retired military's proposed bet. "Getting banned by the moderators" is NOT on the table for two commenters engaging in a dick-waving contest.

I take the responsibility for banning very seriously, carefully weigh the offense given, and only ban someone when -- in my judgment -- they have both grossly violated the general rules of decorum AND are unlikely to repent and not offend again.

We do NOT offer it up as the forfeit in some ridiculous wager.

You wanna make your bet, retired military? Fine. We can't stop you. But you will NOT get anyone in a position of authority to enforce the terms of your bet.

That ain't yours to offer, and I find myself resenting you offering that up as if it is.

J.

Jay TeaI apologize... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Jay Tea

I apologize.

I merely mentioned it as a way of enforcement. Of course people who take bets (and their word) seriously dont need to have 3rd party enforcement but then again we are talking about liberals here.

I also didnt mean it is as a d*ck waving contest but as a measure of commitment to belief in what you are saying.

Sorry if I overstepped what you consider bounds of acceptable behavior and this incident wont be repeated.

Brian - "Perhaps you sh... (Below threshold)
marc:

Brian - "Perhaps you should instead ask, did "Slick Willy" claim to have been mayor of Hope, and that it provided valuable experience for being president?"

Forget? No, and I never claimed Slick Willy was the mayor of Hope Arkansas but I did imply both he and Palin come from very small towns.

And BTW her "foreign policy" experience pretty much matches that of Slick Willy prior to his taking office.

Wizbang Moderators: I'm... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

Wizbang Moderators: I'm not sure what about my post warranted the disemvoling. I used no profanity, and was no less civil than any of the other posters on here.

RM, I really don't care if I do get banned from posting on this site, if I'm going to be censored for my last post. As long as I can come back to visit and view (if not post) on Wednesday, November 5, and revel in the lamenting.

Now if you want to me to really lay it on the line, I'll put a couple hundred bucks on it.

Here is the source of someo... (Below threshold)
Calvin:

Here is the source of someone's earlier comment regarding Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell's clarification on Palin's National Guard experience:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hpxv9PHwtrYyiK-btXIRE8AepmiwD92TGCQ01

By the way, the average life span of a male in the U.S. is 74.

Coming from a small town (population 9000), I personally would be terrified if someone from my city council or the mayor's office (both part time jobs by the way -- same in Palin's case) could potentially be the president.

A clarification to my previ... (Below threshold)
Calvin:

A clarification to my previous comment: I'm a registered republican, who voted for Bush twice, and I realize that Palin does have 20 months experience in the state capital (all be it from a small state), but I'm just saying that I'm not sure we should really be so keen on counting the local office experience.

Sorry, reading previous com... (Below threshold)
Calvin:

Sorry, reading previous comments again.

Someone says Obama's experience is in reading bills. Abraham Lincoln was in the state senate for 8 years and house of reps for 2. That's it, but I think he was a fairly successful president. So let's not get so ridiculous about Obama's lack of experience. From a fair-minded position, Obama does have more important political experience than Palin. However, I see these comparisons as quite ridiculous. Looking over the experience of previous administrations, there is absolutely no correlation between level of experience and success of the president. James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson has the most experience of any president, and yet they are thought of as some of the worst. Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Chester Arthur had almost no political experience and are thought of as some of the more successful presidents. Would it really matter to us if Obama had 30 years of the best kind of experience? No, because he would still have the same liberal ideas. Would it matter to us if McCain had absolutely no experience? No, because we believe what he has to say. So lets let the dems win this battle, Palin has less experience, but what difference does it make (I don't see why we're comparing a VP to a P anyways). Democrats are democrats, and their ideals are garbage, so lets attack those instead. Who's with me?

Calvin, I'm going ... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:

Calvin,

I'm going to find it difficult to believe that you are actually from a small town ;-) if you continue to make claims like this:

So let's not get so ridiculous about Obama's lack of experience. From a fair-minded position, Obama does have more important political experience than Palin.

I am from a small town of just over 9000. Being mayor is a full-time job, but the state legisltor's job is very part-time one. (Given that, as I recall, Obama also practiced law during this period, apparently he was a part-time legislator as well.)

What did my small town mayor do last year - between hiring and supervising city employees, smoozing higher government officials to get grant money for infrastructure repairs and seeking new business to increase available jobs? He dealt with the aftermath of a flood that cost the city its city hall, police department, the last two downtown anchor businesses and dozens of homes.

Ironically, Kevin, in another post, talks about the small towns near New Orleans who quite literally might be wiped off the map tomorrow.

From a fair minded person's perspective, Obama's "political" experience may be more "prestiguous" - to those who think anything big city is automatically "important" while small towns are just full of hicks - but his executive experience is virtually non-existent. Given that he is applying for an executive position, it is relevent that he has next to none. Palin has executive experience. Without analyzing her actual responsibilities in her community and the decisions she made (which I doubt anyone actually has done), no one can determine if they were relevent experiences.

Meanwhile calling her a small town mayor - instead of Governor which she is (as the Obama campaign did do) is condescending and not playing well with women voters. Being condescending about ALL small town mayors is costing votes from other groups of people.

Not a sign of a smart campaign strategy.


Ummm, Brian, if... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:
Ummm, Brian, if you think the claim is "absurd", then you can say "The claim is absurd ..." and provide us with a link to factual information that proves your claim is true.

Well, for as much as can be proven, here.

I can't disprove "she may have security clearances we don't even know about" any more than you can disprove that her actions are controlled by magical unicorns in space.

Since you haven't, we have to assume that you can't.

Oh, so sorry! You lose!

See, Brian, it isn't that hard to find "a" link to use in a discussion. You don't have to always depend on your winning personality.

Of course, most of the link had nothing whatsoever to do with the subject my post referred to and the small part that did has already been discussed.

You are right to say that we don't know what security clearances Palin may have.

Therefore, when you claimed that it was absurd to suggest she had them, you had to either be guessing, suggesting that it was because she was a woman that you doubted she had them, or were just trying to divert the topic.


We are neighbors it seems. ... (Below threshold)
Calvin:

We are neighbors it seems. I am from Greenville, Pa in Mercer County (next to Trumbull County in your state). I was speaking about my hometown city council and my hometown mayor. They approve yard sale applications and punish those who do not have them! In my town, both are part time jobs (much more so for the city council who meet weekly for a couple hours and maintain other full-time jobs). I wish I could have experienced living in a town where infrastructure improvements are made and new jobs are made. However, in my town businesses only leave (Bessemer railroad and Werner Ladder Co. for example). It may very well be that Palin had lots of relevant experience in her small town. I'm just saying that in mine, I would find it hard to believe that anyone would gain enough experience to make me feel comfortable with them as vice president. And in a town even smaller than mine, I don't see how anyone could gain a significant amount of the type of experience that I would desire to see in a vice presidential candidate. (Although I did just watch Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, so who knows?) I don't believe I referred to her as only a small time mayor if that is the insinuation. I stated that she has been governor for 20 months and that I feel is very relevant experience. My point is, is that experience shouldn't be an issue. Issues should be the issue ;)

I don't know why we're so d... (Below threshold)
Calvin:

I don't know why we're so dismissive of the experience of senators and congressmen. In recent years, it seems that the legislative branch hasn't done much to help us, but historically some very good presidents have been senators or congressman. Lately we've been on this kick of electing presidents who have been governors (3 out of the last 4 I believe), but before the 1980's, this was hardly the trend. Most of the presidents before 1980 were from the legislative branch. And I think that if you asked most people to list the 5 best presidents, most responses would be from before the 1980's (with the exception of Reagan of course). So I think that a congressman or senator can be a very good president and we shouldn't be so obsessed with executive experience. What matters is whether or not you think the person can make good decisions. Clearly democrats are unable to do this, so that's what we should be focusing on.

Mac, Palin is not ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Mac, Palin is not running for president, we get that. She is running for VP behind a guy with one foot and half the toes on the other foot in the grave.

Good point and I'm sure that's why many women will vote for McCain. It's simple, Palin is more qualified than Obama, and it's funny how McCain's has the left making the argument that Obama is not qualified to be President.

Were they governor... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Were they governors of states with a population that's 25% of Brooklyn's? Were they governors for less than two years?

Oh, you must be "forgetting" that.

The exception was Bush Sr. Are you really comparing Obama's paper thin federal experience to Bush Sr. It doesn't matter how you cut it, Palin is more qualified to be President than Obama. I can only hope the left keeps pointing that out the voters.

Yeah, I guess the fact that... (Below threshold)
Calvin:

Yeah, I guess the fact that the dems have to defend their presidential candidate against someone with 2 real years of experience is pretty funny.

When did this site turn int... (Below threshold)
reasonblecitizen:

When did this site turn into a humor site?

You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Or as we sometimes say: "this dog won't hunt"

Palin is a nice person that McCain chose because he was afraid he might actually win the Presidency.

He alone, by himself, has insulted the office of the Vice President, others in his selection process, and you... but you don't believe it.

It took Barack Obama to convince 1/2 of the Democrat Party, 8 months of competition, and numerous debates to defeat the most powerful woman in the political history of the United States.

And you think Palin is more qualified?

Stop drinking the Kool Aid.

I'm a major critic of the m... (Below threshold)

I'm a major critic of the missile Interceptor system for these reasons. After more than $100 billion dollars spent on mostly failed tests of missile interception devices since the Reagan "Star Wars" programs began in the early 1980's just 10 operational missile Interceptors will hardly stop at least 5518 known Russian nuclear warheads.

In addition, since these Russian nuclear missiles are largely on mobile launchers of some sort, on ground based Scud missile type launchers, submarines or strategic bombers, they are difficult to target to stop a launch unlike many of our American missiles in known fixed silos to the Russian military. The Russian military can target the launches of American ground based missiles in their silos before they can even launch, only leaving the American force of submarine and strategic bomber based missiles.

Another problem is that Russia uses most reliable solid fuel missiles which are very difficult to target with Interceptor missiles. It takes at least two Interceptors to have a reasonable chance to destroy just one solid rocket fuel missile compared to just one Interceptor required to reasonably target and destroy a liquid fuel based missile. So the U.S. at best has the potential capability to successfully destroy just five of 5518 Russian nuclear warheads if such a serious situation should arise.

In reality the U.S. would need 11,000 space based antimissile platforms orbiting over the Earth to stop most damage from any Russian solid liquid fuel based missile attack on the U.S., so just 10 ground based Interceptors are next to useless to prevent the U.S. from near total destruction as a nation if a real war existed. At best 10 ground based Interceptors would only be adequate if North Korea had five or less operational missiles headed towards the U.S. It certainly would be no protection against a larger force of Chinese or Russian missiles by any means.

So far the technology and the money required to adequately defend the U.S. from a widespread missile attack does not exist. The U.S. has enough difficulty making the liquid fuel based Space Shuttle program fly let alone being able to put 11,000 space based missile Interceptor platforms into orbit. Think about it.

JFO-- Now lets give some cr... (Below threshold)
Rich:

JFO-- Now lets give some credit to this lady - but being the commander f of a battalion is the job of a a Lt. Colonel.

You make a mockery of your vp candidate and yourself when you talk about her "experience" as Commander of the Alaska National Guard.


Heh....if Palin is just a Lt.Colonel....isn't she already way ahead of Obama/Biden in paygrade? Guess she can make the decisions Obama can not.

Rich

Calvin,By... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Calvin,

By the way, the average life span of a male in the U.S. is 74.

You are using the wrong actuarial table or you don't know how to read it. Here's the table used by the government. Look down the Exact age column for Male. McCain turned 72 Friday. Now follow the row over to the Life Expectancy column and you'll see the number 12.01. That means a 72 year-old male in good health can expect to live 12 more years, not 2 as you posted. The older you are the longer your total expected life span. That's because someone who's 72, for example, missed dying young from many causes such as being shot down in war, or having your ship blow up at sea.

Coming from a small town (population 9000), I personally would be terrified if someone from my city council or the mayor's office (both part time jobs by the way -- same in Palin's case) could potentially be the president.

Every President has to start out somewhere. Obama started as a community organizer. Palin is a Governor and Obama is a senator. That's the level to compare at. Palin was the chief decision maker in her positions and that's the President's most important role. Neither Obama nor Biden have any comparable experience.

First, I want to know who g... (Below threshold)

First, I want to know who gave comment #3 a positive vote.
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"Actually, the Republicans are counting Palin's PTA experience."

Brian, that was desperate, especially given the way it was mentioned in your link.
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Calvin said:
"I'm just saying that in mine, I would find it hard to believe that anyone would gain enough experience to make me feel comfortable with them as vice president. And in a town even smaller than mine, I don't see how anyone could gain a significant amount of the type of experience that I would desire to see in a vice presidential candidate."

Followed by:
"My point is, is that experience shouldn't be an issue."

RichI'd say it's t... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Rich

I'd say it's the equivalent of saying to a Captain of an Infantry Company, the Chief of Staff of the Infantry Division is dead, we know you have the experience to fill the slot.

I.m not saying she doesn't have "some" experience but to tout it in the manner in which some from the right do is absurd. And those of you who use the Alaska is close to Russia meme sound sillier.

By the way with regard to this "experience" argument I wasn't aware that it is the only qualification the electorate is looking for. If I remember correctly Hillary used the same one and finished second.

"This again shows that Gove... (Below threshold)
Eneils Bailey:

"This again shows that Governor Palin has more experience and is more prepared for the job than Barack Obama."

So what, if she was in command of some vital military Units and Installations.

Obama got military experience riding around with Bill Ayers checking security at military bases and Federal facilities in Illinois.

Just kiiding...I'm sorry...Too rich to pass up.

Calvin, Y... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Calvin,

Yeah, I guess the fact that the dems have to defend their presidential candidate against someone with 2 real years of experience is pretty funny.

The thing is that McCain took the experience issue off the table with Palin, who's only a bit more qualified to be President than Obama, yet the left is making it an issue. They are saying, by extension, that Obama is not qualified to be President and that's the funny part. If they were smart they would drop the experience line of attack.

Calvin,My first ca... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:

Calvin,

My first career was in city planning with part of the time in Ohio and part of the time in Wyoming. Part-time hours doesn't mean part-time responsibility in my experience.

The mayor (when they were part-time or now as full-time) of my own small town has always been responsible for making sure city services (electricy, water, sewer) were running regardless of the number of hours they were paid for working.

It took Barack Oba... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:
It took Barack Obama to convince 1/2 of the Democrat Party, 8 months of competition, and numerous debates to defeat the most powerful woman in the political history of the United States.

Don't let Nancy Pelosi hear you saying that. She thinks she is the most powerful woman politician in the country.

Paul,just... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Paul,

just 10 operational missile Interceptors will hardly stop at least 5518 known Russian nuclear warheads.

The program to stop Russian nuclear warheads was dropped a long time ago. The current program is only designed to stop lunatics like those in NK and Iran from being able to hit the U.S. with their limited low tech missiles. Russia is deterred through M.A.D.

The Russian military can target the launches of American ground based missiles in their silos before they can even launch,

That's only true because of the current U.S. policy (and a wise one at that) is not to launch on warning. The U.S. will wait unit the first Russian missiles are confirmed to hit their targets. However, the President can change that policy at will and launch on warning.

Another problem is that Russia uses most reliable solid fuel missiles which are very difficult to target with Interceptor missiles.

The fuel has nothing to do with it. Our interceptor is designed to kill the incoming missile in it's "ballistic" phase. The laws of orbital mechanics dictate the exact speed the incoming missile must be traveling in order to hit it's target. Too fast and the warhead goes into orbit.

Once again, the current missile interceptor program is not intended to work against Russia, and thus, it should not pose a threat to them. That's why their overreaction to deployment in Europe is puzzling.

Mac, I lost both of my pare... (Below threshold)

Mac, I lost both of my parents who never made it out of their late 70's last year. My dad seemed healthy enough, but developed a couple of sudden strokes within a month and died. My mother had lung problems for some years, but died within about 90 days of my dad.

In addition, a big band musician friend of mine up the street passed away at 76. And another friend died last month at 78. A minister friend of mine did make it to 82 when he died last year.

My own tragic personal experience is for persons I know and love to pass away at between 76-82 years of age, sometimes from sudden health issues.

I know that everyone thinks that they will live forever, my dad used to go on long walks right before his health turned. But in reality many persons just don't make it to be even 80 years old except for many Mormons or Adventists because of their diet. I know this to be the sad and heartbreaking truth. Look at even Ted Kennedy, in his late 70's and with a sudden terminal brain cancer analysis. He won't make it to 80 either.

It took Barack Oba... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
It took Barack Obama to convince 1/2 of the Democrat Party, 8 months of competition, and numerous debates to defeat the most powerful woman in the political history of the United States.

It was only a tactical victory, not one of substance. Had Hillary ran McCain's Paris Hilton and Moses ads she would now be the Democratic candidate.

With voters preferring Govenor's 4 to 1 over senators in prior Presidential elections it's clear that experience as a Governor is considered far more relevant than that of being a senator or first lady. Palin is more qualified than Obama, so if Palin is not qualified to be president then neither is Obama. Thanks for making McCain's point.

Paul,Sorry to hear... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Paul,

Sorry to hear you lost both your parents so close together. However, I'm sure you agree that the actuarial table I linked is correct, but it's just an average, not a guarantee. The biggest risk to the President is generally an accident or assassination and age is irrelevant in those cases.

One thing I wish this elect... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

One thing I wish this election cycle: That all the liberals keep on saying McCain is old and about to die and that he has cancer so he really shouldn't be considered to lead. Please, please, please keep saying it.

What is absurd is Obama saying he is tired of the same ole, same ole then picks a washington insider Biden for his VP. There is the hypocrisy that makes the left stand out. ww

Oh c'mon JFO...you know tha... (Below threshold)
rich:

Oh c'mon JFO...you know that was funny.

At least Palin would have an officers rank like Mccain. Obama and Biden wouldn't even be recruits. Thats who you want in charge?

Hillary came in second,but then again she doesn't have the experience either does she?

Ryan'Now if you wa... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Ryan

'Now if you want to me to really lay it on the line, I'll put a couple hundred bucks on it."

And how do you propose we pay the bet since I dont give my personal info to folks on the internet I dont know.

How about this.

IF JAY TEA IS WILLING. $100 bet. Loser sends check (money order, Pay pal) to Jay Tea at Wizbang and he donates to his favorite charity and confirms that the bet is paid. Again if Jay Tea is willing, I dont know if he is.

According to the Con... (Below threshold)
Larry:


According to the Constitution, both Obama and Palin are qualified to be President. The US has had its share of lightweights as President, who then went on to be great. We have also had our share of heavyweights who were a disaster. Look at JFK and LBJ as examples of both.


Speculating on Obama or Palin as President is an exercise in stupid unless you use an evaluation of their various prior actual votes or executive actions as a measure. Going by what they say is another exercise in stupid since all politicians lie by omission among other techniques.

For the trolls who want to discuss "Troopergate," please do your research before you expose your ignorance. Take a look at:

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/29/palins-troopergate-beating-msm-distortions-to-the-truth/

...for as near to the complete story as I have been able to find, so far. Regurgitating the talking points of a less than educated Liberal doesn't cut it.

The fact is that Obama HAS run a very large business and ran it well; his nomination process.

The fact is that Palin has run a very large business and ran it well; the State of Alaska's governor's job.

Obama says he wants change and people get all excited because they can then insert whatever they think he said they want and they love it. This is called Demigod tactics and it works especially amongst the young, who lack the worldly experience dealing with deceit.

When asked to detail what he stands for, Obama upchucks Liberal position statements, some of which go all the way back to FDR days. We don't have a clue whether he believes or not other than by his votes in the Illinois Legislature and the US Senate, which more or less reveal that he is a true believer. The bottom line is "Back to the Future."

Palin regurgitates all of the Conservative positions with one exception; she has ethics aplenty and no hesitation to fire someone who is doing a lousy job. While she does a few things from political expediency, mostly she acts from a defined point of honor, ethics and character. In other words, she is no Tom Delay, arguably the one man sleaze who destroyed the Republican party, or at least started the process.

Obama is the product of the Chicago political machine, which is the same as saying corrupt. If elected, he, Nancy Pelosi and Dirty Harry Reid will conspire to destroy the Democratic Party and I predict a mid-term election that will throw the rascals out. After a year or so for blaming Bush for everything, the Dems will have to eat their stupid.

OTOH, if McCain wins, you have a couple of forces working in the background that are more or less completely unknown in one case and sorta know in the other. By that I mean Cindy McCain and Sarah "Barraccuda" Palin. It is going to be interesting to watch the direction of government if McCain wins. Cindy McCain is very, very smart and very, very dominant. Just watch her body language and micro-expressions. Sarah Palin is the type who will run over you if you get between her and where she is going. Palin is VERY goal oriented.

John McCain is VERY decision oriented and he listens to Cindy; again just watch the two of them when they are together.

For those who want to make Obama look like Dracula (which he does), forgetabout it. He is an old style Chicago machine sleaze and his bark is worse than his bite unless you are running against him or hurting his image, in which case, he will throw you under the bus and this includes his wife who obviously was sent home to get a make over before she was allowed to play with the adults, again.

Given that the two leaders of Congress are old style sleazeballs, I think that Obama would be held hostage to the Libs. This may or may not be a good thing. There has been some speculation that electing Obama would bring on a depression. If true, I say bring it on, then kick the rascals out.

OTOH, if McCain/Palin gets elected, I think the head butting between Congress and the Presidentcy would be so bad that nothing would get done. Now why is that not a good thing? Imagine Congress not passing more bad laws :-)

Larry

After more than $1... (Below threshold)
After more than $100 billion dollars spent on mostly failed tests of missile interception devices since the Reagan "Star Wars" programs began in the early 1980's just 10 operational missile Interceptors will hardly stop at least 5518 known Russian nuclear warheads.

Yeah, but the Russians didn't know that at the time. In fact, former Soviet officials have pretty much admitted that Reagan's announcement that the United States was going to fund and pursue a missile shield research project scared them shitless. It caused them to dump even more money into their bloated military, and probably accelerated the USSR's collapse.

So, all in all, Reagan's SDI was money well spent.

At least Sarah Palin doesn'... (Below threshold)
nokarmahere:

At least Sarah Palin doesn't need a Weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

See, Brian, it isn't tha... (Below threshold)
Brian:

See, Brian, it isn't that hard to find "a" link to use in a discussion. You don't have to always depend on your winning personality.

Yeah, I keep overestimating the awareness of the Wizbang right, and their ability to locate actual truthful information.

Brian, I know you meant tha... (Below threshold)
Rich:

Brian, I know you meant that as sarcasm,but you have never said anything more true here.

See, Brian, it ... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:
See, Brian, it isn't that hard to find "a" link to use in a discussion. You don't have to always depend on your winning personality.

Yeah, I keep overestimating the awareness of the Wizbang right, and their ability to locate actual truthful information.

He doesn't even know when people are making fun of him. LOL!


Mac,I said the ave... (Below threshold)
Calvin:

Mac,

I said the average life expectancy of an American male is 74 years, which is supported by your table, since someone who is just born is expected to live 74 years. That's the definition of average life expectancy. This was in clarification to someone's earlier post, not a comment on McCain. If you haven't noticed, I support the man.

Your table says that if someone is in good health at 72, they can expect to live 12 more years on average. This is not saying that the average life expectancy of a U.S. male is 84. Of course, these statistics should be taken with a grain of salt. Things like family history are much more relevant in determining approximately how long someone should live. If McCain takes from his father's side, he may be in trouble, since his father lived to be 70 and his grandfather lived to be 61. However, if he takes after his mother's side, his maternal grandfather lived to be 96.

I think people are misunder... (Below threshold)
Calvin:

I think people are misunderstanding my comments, or at least not reading them all. I say so what if Obama does have more experience than Palin (not quality of experience per se, but let's just say more)(and again, regardless of how inane it is to compare a VP choice with a presidential nomination)? Why is experience an issue when it has never had any correlation with the perceived success of a president? We will trust Palin to make decisions over Obama any day, even if she had absolutely no experience and Obama had 30 years of being the governor of any state in the U.S. That's because we know conservatives will make the correct decisions, and liberals won't.

That's because we know c... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

That's because we know conservatives will make the correct decisions, and liberals won't.

At least, not until they've thrown billions of dollars at every other possible option and watched them fail... at which point they'll do a 180, do the thing that works and applaud their own willingness to think outside the box.

Ryan, It doesn't m... (Below threshold)
maggie:

Ryan,

It doesn't much matter how you feel about being
disemvoweled, you can accept it or leave.
The height of rudeness in the comments involving
Gov.Palen have been beyond the pale. That puts
you and a few others on the short list.

Just to direct this back to... (Below threshold)
Calvin:

Just to direct this back to the original topic, what are some opinions on what Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell says regarding Palin's National Guard experience?

Why is experience ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Why is experience an issue when it has never had any correlation with the perceived success of a president?

It's important because campaigns are about issues like experience, character, judgement, ethics, and bipartisanship as much as they are about specific issues. Your advise from several posts ago to concede the experience issue to the Democrats would not only be untruthful, it would be a disaster to McCain's campaign.

As for life expectancy, the formal definition includes the age or that they were just born as you said. With regard to McCain it's irrelevant to quote 74 years as if he was just born yesterday. It only fuels nutcases to give the 74 value, so it's best to quote 84, which is the correct value for McCain. And yes, it's an average, not a guarantee.

RM, I would be down with th... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

RM, I would be down with that except for the whole "Jay Tea's favorite charity" stipulation. What you're saying is win or lose, either your money or mine goes to some right-wing sympathizing organization. I don't think that's too fair when I win the bet. How about the organization of the winner's choice?

As an aside, seriously, can we stop, for once and all and for eternity, slapping the word "gate" on every scandal?

Ryan,It doe... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

Ryan,

It doesn't much matter how you feel about being
disemvoweled, you can accept it or leave.
The height of rudeness in the comments involving
Gov.Palen have been beyond the pale. That puts
you and a few others on the short list.

You know what that's fine. It's your site, not mine. If you think my comments constitute the "height of rudeness" or "beyond the pale", I guess you don't come here often and read about Sens. Obama or Biden, or their wives, or their children, or Sen. Clinton, or Speaker Pelosi et al. But, I digress.

RyanHow about an o... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Ryan

How about an organization that we can both mutually agree on (if that is possible). As I wont my have my money donated to NOW, NARAL, etc (BTW Jay Tea posted before that he is somewhat prochoice (correct me if I am wrong Jay Tea)).

So if you agree to that and Jay Tea agrees to act as intermediatary then we can consider it a bet.

What do you say Jay Tea? If Ryan and I can agree on a charity for our bet would you agree to ensure that the check gets to it?


That is I wont have my mone... (Below threshold)
retired military:

That is I wont have my money donated to NOW, NARAL on the off chance that the earth opens up and swallows McCain whole the day before the election.

The obvious neutral route w... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

The obvious neutral route would be to go with the Red Cross or the Salvation Army, but to honor the political nature of the bet, how about $100 to the RNC or the DNC, depending on how it turns out?

But, Idigress.</... (Below threshold)
Maggie:
But, I digress.

That, or egress will work.

Mac,I don't unders... (Below threshold)
Calvin:

Mac,

I don't understand why conceding that Palin has less experience than Obama would be a disaster for the McCain campaign. Obama isn't running against Palin. The fact that democrats even have to make the comparison indicates that they doubt Obama's experience level in itself.

However it seems that many of the opinions in this thread are that executive experience trumps legislative experience in every way. By this argument, one could say that Palin even has more experience than McCain, which is something I don't think we should be doing. I think McCain is even more qualified to be president than Bush, and I think he will end up being every bit as good of a president as Bush. Ergo, I think legislative experience is equally valuable, as I have justified by saying that most of the best presidents from history have been from the legislative branch.

Ryan and retired military, enough with this ridiculous bet. And is anyone ever going to start commenting again on what this thread is about? Kim has given evidence that Palin's National Guard experience is very relevant, PeachPit and others have given evidence that this National Guard experience is overstated and false, now it seems like its our turn again. Or at least to comment about what is contained in those articles.

I don't understand... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
I don't understand why conceding that Palin has less experience than Obama would be a disaster for the McCain campaign.

Besides being untrue, the democrats would use it to attack McCain's judgement, as they have already tried. All you need to do is read some of the threads from Friday and Saturday to figure that out.

As for the national guard, the Governor of each state is the sole commander in chief of their state's Air and Army National Guard units. The exception is that the President can take command under the Insurrection Act, which was expanded in 2007 to include natural disasters and other public emergencies. Like the President, Govenor's exercise the commander in chief role, but only on a state level. Nevertheless, it's a role Palin has experience with and Obama does not. How important is it. Probably not any more important than other roles taken in isolation. Any competent person could do the President's job 90% of the time, but it's that other 10% that separates the great Presidents from the poor one.

This race should have been a slam dunk for the Democrates given their built-in advantage with the MSM and given the unpopularity of Bush. The fact that McCain has pulled to within the margin of error of Obama demonstrates he's running a far more effective campaign than Obama. I predict McCain will take the lead next weak and the democrats will blame it on Gustav giving McCain a backdrop Obama didn't have. But remember, just two days ago the left was thinking Gustav was a gift from God to them. Well, McCain turned Gustav to his advantage, which is typical of great leaders.

I have issue with saying th... (Below threshold)
Calvin:

I have issue with saying that Palin has more experience than Obama. I think Obama has a LOT of experience. However, it is experience being a radical leftist. That's how we know we dislike him, not because of his lack of experience. Palin on the other hand, has less experience (as I've stated before, I can't really assign a lot of relevant experience to those in local office, except those who are forced to become great leaders by certain situations (e.g. a hurricane), and I've seen nothing to indicate Palin has become a great leader in her small town), but it is a better quality conservative experience that we would like in a potential leader of our county. So from my point of view, I think the statement that "Palin has more experience than Obama" is less than truthful. However, the case that "Palin is more qualified than Obama to lead" certainly can be made.

RyanRed cross or s... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Ryan

Red cross or salvation army is 100% acceptable to me.

If that is agreeable than say which one and consider it so. (I prefer red cross).

I veto the DNC and RNC because I dont believe in giving politicians any more of my money than they take by force (so call me a typical republican :) )

If so, then we just work out verification.

Do we go with Jay Tea (he hasnt responded) if he is willing or do we just have to trust each other?

Your call.
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Calvin let us be please.

As for National Guard exp I wonder what those willing to dismiss Palin's experience with it would be so quick to dismiss it with say Dean or Landreau?

So, is it now the presumpti... (Below threshold)
El Cid:

So, is it now the presumption that Democratic governors, who are of course the Commanders of their states' National Guarads, also get to vaguely claim to be "in on" all sorts of classified information "we don't know about" any freaking time there's a military base in their state?

Excuse me, you've confused ... (Below threshold)
shades:

Excuse me, you've confused Alaskan governor "commander and chief" with the real commander of the Alaskan National Guard. Here's his bio:
http://www.ak-prepared.com/dmva/biographies/campbell.htm

Nice try but you're an idiot.

Excuse me, you've ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Excuse me, you've confused Alaskan governor "commander and chief" with the real commander of the Alaskan National Guard.

What a dimwit. If you're past 4th grade you would know the military is lead by a "civilian" commander in chief. The Governor is the sole commander in chief (not and chief) of their state's Air and Army national guard. The President holds the same exact position, but on the federal level. Only an idiot would link to the military head, who's under the civilian commander in chief, as a rebuttal.

Kim, every gov needs to be ... (Below threshold)
Ralph S:

Kim, every gov needs to be briefed, that's normal. I vet candidates the way I am vetted when applying for a job. They want to know my education. Sarah seems qualified in that respect. Then they want to know my work experience mostly within the last five years and for how long. And that's where the big ???s are with Sarah. Where was Sarah five years ago? fishing? We know that she was a mayor of a small town of about 6,500 and governor for a state of 700,000 for the past year and a half. Despite the spins, I'm still uncomfortable with this.

Excuse me, you've confu... (Below threshold)
mgear:

Excuse me, you've confused Alaskan governor "commander and chief" with the real commander of the Alaskan National Guard.

What a dimwit. If you're past 4th grade you would know the military is lead by a "civilian" commander in chief. The Governor is the sole commander in chief (not and chief) of their state's Air and Army national guard. The President holds the same exact position, but on the federal level. Only an idiot would link to the military head, who's under the civilian commander in chief, as a rebuttal.

90. Posted by Mac Lorry | September 2, 2008 11:46 AM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 3 (3 votes cast)

Actually, no... In this case it appears that this particular unit reports to someone in

Excuse me, you've confused Alaskan governor "commander and chief" with the real commander of the Alaskan National Guard.

What a dimwit. If you're past 4th grade you would know the military is lead by a "civilian" commander in chief. The Governor is the sole commander in chief (not and chief) of their state's Air and Army national guard. The President holds the same exact position, but on the federal level. Only an idiot would link to the military head, who's under the civilian commander in chief, as a rebuttal.

Um... no. This particular unit in not a standard unit of the Alaska National Guard. According to a December 10th, 2006 article in the Herald Tribune:

"While the 49th is an Alaska National Guard unit, Hildreth reports to Colonel Michael Yowell, commander of the 100th Missile Defense Brigade, based in Colorado."

Palin does NOT appear to be the commander of this unit.

Excuse me, you've ... (Below threshold)
mgear:
Excuse me, you've confused Alaskan governor "commander and chief" with the real commander of the Alaskan National Guard.
What a dimwit. If you're past 4th grade you would know the military is lead by a "civilian" commander in chief. The Governor is the sole commander in chief (not and chief) of their state's Air and Army national guard. The President holds the same exact position, but on the federal level. Only an idiot would link to the military head, who's under the civilian commander in chief, as a rebuttal.

90. Posted by Mac Lorry | September 2, 2008 11:46 AM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 3 (3 votes cast)

Um... no. This particular unit in not a standard unit of the Alaska National Guard. According to a December 10th, 2006 article in the Herald Tribune:

"While the 49th is an Alaska National Guard unit, Hildreth reports to Colonel Michael Yowell, commander of the 100th Missile Defense Brigade, based in Colorado."

Palin is NOT Commander in Chief of this unit. She is Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard members that make up most of the unit, which means she has an administrative role with respect to those service members. Tactical control of the unit is federal, however, out of Colorado. She does NOT has the same position with respect to the 49th that the U.S. president has with respect to U.S. military units.

If you want to keep calling people dimwits from behind the safety of your computer keyboard, though, please feel free.

What's the difference betwe... (Below threshold)
Futura:

What's the difference between Palin and a pig? -----
(excuse me while I think about that for awhile)

I find it so demeaning that... (Below threshold)
sandyshores:

I find it so demeaning that this woman with all of her great accomplishments is being underscored, if she was a man she would be a hero. Get over it Sarah is a hero and she's a woman. You sound like a bunch of womanizers discounting saran and all that she has achieved. SHE IS! The most qualified of all the candidates.

Stop calling us "misogynist... (Below threshold)

Stop calling us "misogynists". I don't hate women, I married one and voted for one for president of the United States in the primary.

I hate Republicans and what they have done to my country.


I feel what the democrats are afraid of is Sarah and her record to break down corruption.
We need Sarah to come in and barracuda the corruption in Washington, lets fact it we can't afford the corruption anymore.
I hate democrats and how they have utterly destroyed our country.

<a href="http://www.... (Below threshold)
sandyshores:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o do we really need more of this or do we need sarah who will cleam up this kind of corruption.




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