I think there's an Echo in here :)

Terrified of all the money she's driving their way? Terrified with the way she doesn't seem to be appealing to moderates or independents? Or terrified with the way his lead in the polls has been solid since the Palin announcement?

I think McCain made a mistake. By picking a fresh-faced far right conservative to energize the base, he's given up on the rest of the electorate. The base ain't gonna do it for Republicans this year. Smart Democrats aren't scared, they're laughing.

I was not impressed at all. It seemed like a boilerplate attack speech that someone wrote for her. I give it to her that she didnt fall flat on her face but I think many were watching like they watch a car wreck.

She seemed shrill, snide, and a snob. My wife who is a working mom watched for 10 seconds, commented "that is a real bitch" and walked away.

The GOP may feel good about this but I dont think anyone else does. She basically did a full on assault on any undecided Hillary voter and we should see them flocking to Obama now.

She is better than I expected in the speech on style and I think she is even better than Mccain. What does that say about Mccain?

Oh, Mantis. His lead in the polls is his convention bounce. Let's look at the polls this Sunday and then you can talk.

The only question left after Palin's speech: Will she decide to keep McCain on the ticket or not?

She seemed shrill, snide, and a snob. My wife who is a working mom watched for 10 seconds, commented "that is a real bitch" and walked away.

Funny. My wife says the same thing whenever she sees Barack Obama on tv.

Wonder how many folks were watching over the internet like I was?

His lead in the polls is his convention bounce. Let's look at the polls this Sunday and then you can talk.

True enough.

The only question left after Palin's speech: Will she decide to keep McCain on the ticket or not?

I thought that myself. What does it say when your party likes the VP nominee way more than than the guy at the top of the ticket?

"I thought that myself. What does it say when your party likes the VP nominee way more than than the guy at the top of the ticket?"

It says the party is a helluva lot more likely to hold their nose and vote for their ticket now, instead of writing it in or staying home.

I'm sure many people watched her for the same reason I did: for a laugh. I anticipated a hollow, jingoistic, polyester, American Guns and Jesus Land speech. I watched to see if she would live down to my expectations and can happiy say in that regard, she did not disappoint!

I saw an interview with Rasmussen today and he shows Obama down 1 point from his peak after his convention. However, the first comprehensive pole after Palin's speech won't be out until Tuesday (9/9). Obama's convention bounce took longer to show up than expected, so smart people are waiting until next week to make a judgement about what effect Palin has had.

One thing we don't have to wait for is the viewer ratings, which if nothing else, indicate there's a lot of interest in Palin. In politics, that's always the first sign of voter support.

I keep reading chatter about polls from both the authors and commenters. Didn't anybody learn anything after 2004? Polls don't mean squat. Especially exit polls. The only poll that matters and can be trusted (OK - besides dead voters) is the poll on election day.

jim - "I was not impressed at all. It seemed like a boilerplate attack speech that someone wrote for her. I give it to her that she didnt fall flat on her face but I think many were watching like they watch a car wreck."

What a *shock* you're not impressed. Pray tell, how was her speech any different than Biden's. His was the same a "boilerplate attack speech."

If you hadn't noticed that is generally the position a VP candidate to place in on most elections regardless of party.

Guss you missed the bit of political history.

What you didn't miss was the "shrill" line of attack (not to mention the she didn't write it tripe) that has been seen and heard since seconds after the speech's completion and predominately on left leaning blogs and the lame-stream media.

Gee.... there musta been a memo or somethin'. Can you confirm the jim?

It says the party is a helluva lot more likely to hold their nose and vote for their ticket now, instead of writing it in or staying home.

What an endorsement. I can see the ads now: "Vote John McCain: Not quite as bad a choice as before."

mantis: "Terrified with the way she doesn't seem to be appealing to moderates or independents?"

Hmmm, what evidence do you have that this statement is true?

If you are using the ABC "independent forum" as your guide (which you probably are), then you should know that at least 3 of the 5 "independent" participants were lefties including a code pink anti-war protester, and a public advocate for socialized medicine!

That would be the same ABC that sought out impressions of Palins speech from Code Pink types outside the arena as well as a "Republican" Obama supporter who just happens to have a dem party background.

If you listen to Rasmussens' Independent snapshot reaction, he showed a 9% switch among independents from Obama and undecided to McCain-Palin.

I wonder which result is more accurate?

mike doyle - "I'm sure many people watched her for the same reason I did: for a laugh. I anticipated a hollow, jingoistic, polyester, American Guns and Jesus Land speech."

Wow, you speak for 37 million people?! How presumptuous.

If the looney left is posting like they are, that means they are frightened.

Does Biden still prefer McCain over the token turkey?

What an endorsement. I can see the ads now: "Vote John McCain: Not quite as bad a choice as before."

Yep. I'm gonna be honest with you, mantis. That's pretty much the way I feel about it.

by the way ... the detail on that CBS poll says it was taken over a 3-day period from September 1 through September 3. That means MOST of the respondents to that poll HAD NOT YET SEEN PALIN's ACCEPTANCE SPEECH.

The stuff the left is throwing at her is much the same as what one would expect from 10 year olds at a slumber party making prank calls at 3:00 AM.

What the media and the left are most frustrated about is that, to them, Sarah Palin should not even exist. Does this mean a woman from a normal run of the mill family can rise to the top without government assistance, without the need for 'special protected status', without affirmative action entrance to an Ivy League school? She did it based upon her own abilities utilizing the help of family and friends, just like folks have been doing for many decades prior to big government. The REAL idea she conveys is that since she could do it, so can many others if they have a little talent and a big desire. We don't need advocacy groups, human rights commissions, or big government.
Democrats who are laughing are fools.

Mike Doyle: "I watched to see if she would live down to my expectations and can happiy say in that regard, she did not disappoint!"

Presidents Gore and Kerry agree with you Mike!

Well played. Well played.

Hey mantis, here's a much better ad:

"John MCcain: Not quite as bad a choice as before, but still one helluva lot better than Barack Obama."

DJ: "That means MOST of the respondents to that poll HAD NOT YET SEEN PALIN's ACCEPTANCE SPEECH."

Correct.

We won't know the true effect of Palin's speech (and that of McCain's tonight) until at least 4 more days.

Then we'll do a quick tally up of electorate movement.

Of course, McCain and Palin will be unable to sway the "independent" Code Pink and former Weather Underground terrorist murderers to the Republican cause, which will cause MSM sheep like mantis et al to pronounce the Republican efforts "failed!!!!".

Yep. I'm gonna be honest with you, mantis. That's pretty much the way I feel about it.

Hey, as long as we're being honest, Obama was my fourth choice. ;)

which will cause MSM sheep like mantis et al to pronounce the Republican efforts "failed!!!!".

I won't pronounce them failed until November 5, but I am optimistic. Baaaaaa.

"Hey, as long as we're being honest, Obama was my fourth choice. ;)"

Holy smokes! :-)

"Obama was my fourth choice."

He's only supporting Obama because Marx, Che, and Stalin are all dead...

Let's not forget:
Obama has campaigned for 2 years
Palin had been introduced a week ago
Obama has spend over a half billion dollars to get known
Palin has spent some petty cash to get known

I guess the Democrats will get what they pay for.

mantis,

Shouldn't that be Baaaaaarak?

Terrified with the way she doesn't seem to be appealing to moderates or independents?

Excuse me? Maybe you should take a look at this and then come back here and say what you said again.

He's only supporting Obama because Marx, Che, and Stalin are all dead...

Ha ha, but not quite fair. Mantis isn't a deranged lefty loon. In fact, he was actually banned from Wizbang Blue for, presumably, voicing a number of opinions contrary to the lefty party line. He must have gotten one of the moderators over there real irritated at him.

Sarah Palin took a town with $0 debt in 1996 and left it $22 million in the hole in 2002, mostly from the hockey rink/sports complex she shoved down their throats which never became the money generator she promised it would. Another white elephant from another white elephant.

Even with the stable Clinton economy during most of her mayoral tenure and Jack Abramoff's crony she hired to lobby Washington to help her now indicted buddy Ted Stevens ring up $27 million in federal pork for tiny Wasilla (pop. 5000 when she entered office) she still managed to leave the town swimming in debt. Three of her pork projects even made McCain's own wasteful spending list.

The following organization is the offshoot of President Reagan's Private Sector Survey on Cost Control started in 1984, also known as the Grace Commission. Definitely not a Dem friendly group but even these guys apparently think Alaska is America's welfare queen state.

Citizens Against Government Waste
http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=homePage

Rank State Pork Population Pork/Capita
2000 1 Alaska $394,514,000 619,500 $636.83
2001 1 Alaska $480,297,000 626,932 $766.11
2002 1 Alaska $451,334,278 634,892 $710.88
2003 1 Alaska $393,346,750 643,786 $610.99
2004 1 Alaska $524,329,000 648,818 $808.13
2005 1 Alaska $645,502,000 655,435 $984.85
2006 1 Alaska $325,106,000 663,661 $489.87
2007 not listed
2008 1 Alaska $379,699,715 683,478 $555.54

As governor she is borrowing from Alaska's future while she wants to blow today's Alaskan windfall oil tax bonanza and the huge surpluses they've generated on bread and circuses tax giveaways.

Alaska gets 89% of it's operating budget from taxing oil coming out of the ground just like Arab kingdoms and Hugo Chavez's Venezuela. They have no state income or sales tax up there. Instead of using that windfall to pay for all the profligate spending her Republican legislature keeps sending her she's issuing bonds to pay for it which Alaskans and US taxpayers will have to pay off in future years while she takes credit for tax "rebates" while she's governor.

Her fiscal policy is a disaster in the making which won't hit til she's left the governor's office. She'd be a disaster as Vice President especially to a President who despite his grevious wounds and type A personality is already past the age his father and grandfather died of sudden heart attacks.

She can put on all the lipstick she wants but her political record is for the dogs.

of mantis banning at "blue" - "He must have gotten one of the moderators over there real irritated at him."

Like that takes a lot of effort!

Interesting, although far from surprising.

The asswipes have hit Palin's wikipedia page. It has the following warning: "This page is currently protected from editing because of repeated violations of Wikipedia's Biographies of living persons policy."

True that Muse. I think Mantis appears pretty far left sometimes, perhaps due to being in denial about those he supports, but in the long run he thinks and uses reason a lot more than a typical leftist.

(Getting banned from Wizblue isn't saying much though...)

And wow at your link. At first I thought it was a parody or scam, but then I started to browse around and... wow.

Oregonmuse: "In fact, he was actually banned from Wizbang Blue for, presumably, voicing a number of opinions contrary to the lefty party line. He must have gotten one of the moderators over there real irritated at him."

Hmmmm, methinks mantis has thusly earned at least a week long reprieve from snark (from my direction).

I watched, probably like so many, to learn about who Sarah is and what does she bring to the ticket. That is what Obama was referring to.

I was terribly disappointed! It is embarrassing -- now I know what Michelle Obama meant when she referred to her 'pride' in America for supporting her husband.

If I may copy myself from a different forum when a troll said they weren't impressed by her speech:

You're so full of it. She could have balanced the budget, cleansed lepers, cast out demons, beat Putin over the head with his own ripped off arm, brought peace to the middle east, demonstrated cold fusion, unveiled a working teleporter, performed brain surgery with her feet, done the Mashed Potato, explained string theory in Chinese, scored a ten on the balance beam, and produced an engine that runs on air from her purse and you would have been "kinda disappointed".

I think she was great. I think Her and macain are the only ones to clean up Washington. If we go the other way, we all will pay more taxes and give it to the ones that don't want to work anyway. It has been proven socialist policies that OBAMA will bring does not work. I have never voted republican before, but this time it is not the oil hungry bush's and Chaney's with all of his rip off partners stealing from the American people and yes we let them do it and did nothing about it. Its time to take on the oil companies, OPEC and all of this pork spending corruption in Washington. Lets take the government back and make it work for us.

It was an impressive speach given by a very talented speaker. So this proves and only proves that her years in college for communications and her experience as a TV SPORTSCASTER have given her much education and experience to speak well in front of a crowd. Congrats to her.

yeah, daisy, cuz city councilmen, mayors, and governors are total strangers to public speaking. just keep on tellin' yerself that.

how great is this? first the left ignore that she's a sitting governor to focus on her mayoral experience. when that didn't fly they started saying she was just on the pta and, hey, what kind of experience is THAT? I guess that still didn't fly, so now they're basically reducing her to a sportscaster chick.

nice try, you know who's buying it? you. that's it.

Sarah Palin took a town with $0 debt in 1996 and left it $22 million in the hole in 2002, mostly from the hockey rink/sports complex she shoved down their throats

The hockey rink/sports complex was not unpopular at all and it only went over budget AFTER Palin left office due to a law suit from the former owner of the land. While in office, Palin spurred growth while reducing property taxes by 40%.

Even with the stable Clinton economy during most of her mayoral tenure and Jack Abramoff's crony she hired to lobby Washington to help her now indicted buddy Ted Stevens ring up $27 million in federal pork for tiny Wasilla

Palin disagrees with McCain on the issue of earmarks. In that regard she is in line with the position of the majority of senators and congressmen. I haven't heard anything from Obama against pork, so what's your point?

As governor she is borrowing from Alaska's future while she wants to blow today's Alaskan windfall oil tax bonanza and the huge surpluses they've generated on bread and circuses tax giveaways.

That's only your myopic view. Palin has instituted the largest private energy project in history. A 40 billion dollar NG pipeline that will bring in far more money to the state of Alaska than she's giving in tax cuts. What, you think government shouldn't give it's citizens back their own money.

Alaska gets 89% of it's operating budget from taxing oil coming out of the ground just like Arab kingdoms and Hugo Chavez's Venezuela.

Texas and other states do the same. What state doesn't get taxes from exploitation of their natural resources?

Her fiscal policy is a disaster in the making which won't hit til she's left the governor's office.

Nonsense. The energy infrastructure she is putting in place will bless Alaska with surplus after surplus for decades to come.

She'd be a disaster as Vice President especially to a President who despite his grevious wounds and type A personality is already past the age his father and grandfather died of sudden heart attacks.

Not to worry, Palin is far more qualified to be President than Obama.

i don't understand why everyone is talking about how impressed they are with Palin based on her speech when it wasn't even written by her. She woke up, put on some makeup, teased her hair into that horrific bouffant, and was given a speech to read that was written by one of Bush's speechwriters. shouldn't we be looking at her actual experience and all that she's done in government? oh wait...

i watched.....the joke.....the lies.....one thing that got me was when McCain said he belonged to his country after being pow for 5 yrs....i am so sick of him playing on that BS. Where was he along with the other 12 republicans when it came time to vote for the GI Bill...which passed and Obama voted yes too? HE WAS AWOL from the vote...a great disrespect for the veterans in Iraq and everyone who came before them...oh...but they are so IMPORTANT to him....oh he has a great love in his heart for them....lying, disrespectful hypocrite...and she is no better...alaska is in the hole as deep per capita as the republicans have take the people of the USA...as a former republican...gone democrat...i have as much on my resume as her...but in no way am i able to run this country and neither is she and ya all know it hands down...just not ready to give it up.

oh..i forgot...this anti-abortion thing that the Rep. are so noted for...what a joke....they have borrowed and spent so much of other countries money and not one dime was spent here on getting rid of abortion. It is merely a stance they take...HOWEVER...they bottom line is the Rep. have handed down that choice to the individual state. Obama said it best when he said we need to take time and money to help educate to prevent unwanted pregnancies...and how about the money the researchers were denied for more aides funding> BUT>..bush borrowed several million YES I SAY BORROWED from another country and donated it to africa for their aides....how nice are these rep....oh well ...stupid is as stupid does

Is it just a coincidence Osama Binladen, Obama-Biden(laden)

Where was he along with the other 12 republicans when it came time to vote for the GI Bill...which passed and Obama voted yes too?

You mean the GI Bill that was so over the top that it would deplete the ranks? It was just another liberal attempt to disarm the U.S. by paying people to get out of the military. Looks like you fell for it hook line and sinker.

alaska is in the hole as deep per capita as the republicans have take the people of the USA..

Alaska is undeveloped. Developing the infrastructure is needed to utilize it's vast resources. Too bad you're so uninformed about basic economics.

i have as much on my resume as her...but in no way am i able to run this country and neither is she and ya all know it hands down...just not ready to give it up.

An yet she is far more qualified than Obama, and you know it but you're not ready to admit it.

not one dime was spent here on getting rid of abortion.

Such ignorance. It's not just a matter of money.

Obama said it best when he said we need to take time and money to help educate to prevent unwanted pregnancies...

Trying to change basic human nature with "education" is both naive and the biggest waste of time and money government can engage in.

bush borrowed several million YES I SAY BORROWED from another country and donated it to africa for their aides....how nice are these rep....oh well ...stupid is as stupid does

Yea it's stupid trying to help others, at least to the liberal mind, yet they believe nonsense like "change you can believe in". Now that's stupid to the max.

i don't understand why everyone is talking about how impressed they are with Palin based on her speech when it wasn't even written by her.

I don't understand why the anti-Palins are so caught up in something that has been done for those in public office for years. If we were only impressed by speeches, we'd have been suckered by Obama hms and haws a well into the campaign.

*well into his campaign.

I can't say enough about Sarah Palin. I compare her detractors to skaters who go down hard; legs akimbo, that look of disbelief. We're seeing them fold like lawn chairs. It's long overdue. Anyway, here's a clip from Jan & Dean. I found it apropos. Bet you can't watch just once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX7X4FovYRA&NR=1 And how 'bout them Dems, they done yet: http://theseedsof9-11.com

Watch the left panic.

Heheheheheheh

After Gov Palin's speech, now, every time I hear BO speak, the phrase,
"panties in a twist" comes to mind.
He is like a little kid that has been promised he can be the star of the
team and another kid comes along that plays better and that the others
prefer to hang out with. This happens, the kid throws a temper tantrum,
as in she didn't talk about all of my accomplishments while giving her
speech. Yeah right. How many times has he listed any of McCain's
accomplishments unless he is deriding them.

JUST SAY "NO BAMA"

how about that snl skit. tina nailed the look, i just wonder if the father of hills baby is bill's or did she team up with "no bama"

I feel sorry for all you "bama" hang on's. You have to know that he won't last long.