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Obama Is Stuck On Stupid

As Jay Tea noted earlier, Barack Obama was interviewed by Bill O'Reilly this evening on Fox News. He's position on the surge (he said it would never work and we should have cut and run instead) has now got him triangulating ways to avoid admitting he was wrong. From the transcript:

MR. O'REILLY: I think you were desperately wrong on the surge. And I think you should admit it to the nation that now we have defeated the terrorists in Iraq. And the al Qaeda came there after we invaded, as you know. Okay, we've defeated them. If we didn't, they would have used it as a staging ground.

We've also inhibited Iran from controlling the southern part of Iraq by the surge which you did not support. So why won't you say, I was right in the beginning, I was wrong about that?

SEN. OBAMA: You know, if you've listened to what I've said, and I'll repeat it right here on this show, I think that there's no doubt that the violence in down. I believe that that is a testimony to the troops that were sent and General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker. I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated, by the way, including President Bush and the other supporters.

It has gone very well, partly because of the Anbar situation and the Sunni --

MR. O'REILLY: The awakening, right.

SEN. OBAMA: -- awakening, partly because the Shi'a --

MR. O'REILLY: But if it were up to you, there wouldn't have been a surge.

SEN. OBAMA: Well, look --

MR. O'REILLY: No, no, no, no.

SEN. OBAMA: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

MR. O'REILLY: If it were up to you, there wouldn't have been a surge.

SEN. OBAMA: No, no, no, no. Hold on.

MR. O'REILLY: You and Joe Biden -- no surge.

SEN. OBAMA: No. Hold on a second, Bill. If you look at the debate that was taking place, we had gone through five years of mismanagement of this war that I thought was disastrous. And the president wanted to double-down and continue on open-ended policy that did not create the kinds of pressure in the Iraqis to take responsibility and reconcile --

MR. O'REILLY: It worked. Come on.

SEN. OBAMA: Bill, what I've said is -- I've already said it succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.

MR. O'REILLY: Right! So why can't you just say, I was right in the beginning, and I was wrong about the surge?

SEN. OBAMA: Because there is an underlying problem with what we've done. We have reduced the violence --

MR. O'REILLY: Yeah?

SEN. OBAMA: -- but the Iraqis still haven't taken a responsibility. And we still don't have the kind of political reconciliation. We are still spending, Bill, 10 (billion dollars) to $12 billion a month.

Peter Wehner in The Weekly Standard notes that the undeniable success of the surge has come back to haunt Sen. Obama (and other Democrats) who favored a hasty retreat instead of a new offensive strategy:

The trap was set when Obama repeatedly insisted that his superior "judgment" on Iraq is more important than experience in national security affairs. Judgment, according to Obama, is what qualifies him to be commander in chief. So what can we discern about Obama's judgment on the surge, easily the most important national security decision since the Iraq war began in March 2003?

To answer that question, we need to revisit what Obama said about the surge around the time it was announced. In October 2006--three months before the president's new strategy was unveiled--Obama said, "It is clear at this point that we cannot, through putting in more troops or maintaining the presence that we have, expect that somehow the situation is going to improve, and we have to do something significant to break the pattern that we've been in right now."

On January 10, 2007, the night the surge was announced, Obama declared, "I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq are going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse." A week later, he insisted the surge strategy would "not prove to be one that changes the dynamics significantly." And in reaction to the president's January 23 State of the Union address, Obama said, "I don't think the president's strategy is going to work. We went through two weeks of hearings on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee; experts from across the spectrum--military and civilian, conservative and liberal--expressed great skepticism about it. My suggestion to the president has been that the only way we're going to change the dynamic in Iraq and start seeing political commendation is actually if we create a system of phased redeployment. And, frankly, the president, I think, has not been willing to consider that option, not because it's not militarily sound but because he continues to cling to the belief that somehow military solutions are going to lead to victory in Iraq."

In July, after evidence was amassing that the surge was working, Obama said, "My assessment is that the surge has not worked."

Obama, then, was not only wrong about the surge; he was spectacularly wrong. And he continued to remain wrong even as mounting evidence of its success gave way to overwhelming evidence of its success.

The difference between Obama and McCain could not be any clearer. Obama would rather lose a war than lose an election.

Lorie adds: Tom McGuire has a great post at Just One Minute which chronicles Obama's shifting positions on the war in Iraq and the surge.


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Comments (12)

The purpose of the surge wa... (Below threshold)
jp2:

The purpose of the surge was to halt violence so political progress could begin.

Political progress has not begun.

Fail.

Political progress... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
Political progress has not begun. Fail.

No one can hear you with your head stuck in the sand.

Obama is also stuck on numbers. Maybe he feels it's dipping into his "pay grade".

Political progress has n... (Below threshold)

Political progress has not begun.

Pay attention, troll. This is opinion, not fact. As of April '08, 15 of 18 benchmarks had been met--many of them political benchmarks.

Get bent with your worthless spin, jp2.D'oh.

Not that this matters or an... (Below threshold)

Not that this matters or anything, but:

WHEN SITTING U.S. SENATORS/CONGRESSPERSONS ETC., MAKE CONSERTED -AND ULTRA PUBLIC- EFFORTS TO CAUSE THERE OWN NATION (you know, us, the ones who started the war?) TO LOSE A WAR BY AFFECTING PUBLIC OPINION WITH- NOT SUPPORTED BY ANY FACTS- OPINIONS, THAT MEANS THE ENEMY IS ENERGIZED TO MASS MURDER COUNTLESS MORE INNOCENTS AND KEEP THE PROPAGANDA TAPES COMING IN TO cnn SO AS TO ASSIST THEIR ALLIES IN CONGRESS TO CAUSE SAID DEFEAT.

Those are the facts. It is unprecedented on this scale in America (j kerry did the same during the VN war. If he had been shot after a summary courts martial for his treason, untold millions would have been saved from real gulags, not the ones dink turbin says our uniformed service personel run.)

My #1 prayer is that the American people, as a whole, someday soon learn the truth of our nations' real shame: Dozens, if not hundreds, of public officials/celebuturds have the blood of millions of innocents and thousands of Americans in uniform on their hands. It's not enough for me that they'll burn for it in the here after, for theirs is the shame of a thousand slave owners, each.

I'm not dyin' until that is in all of our, public school, history texts.
depp=true
notiz=off-topic rants from all sides are fair game for the new experiment in comment moderation. --J.

The thing that caught me th... (Below threshold)
Glenn M. Cassel AMH1(AW) USN RET:

The thing that caught me the most? His superior judgement. Ladies and Gentlemen, what in blazes gives him superior judgement over the Soldiers, Marines, Sailors and Airmen that are actually there doing the job. HMMMMMMMM. Remember when LBJ made out the target lists and set the rules of engagement? I may have only been in grade school, but I remember.
Judgement? More like elitest opinion.
I believe the kids that carry rifles, operate the tanks, helicopters and airplanes. And those who haul the fuel, food and bombs, and turn the wrenches to keep things going.
To the not so dinstiguished senator from Illinois: Golf-Foxtrot-Yankee.
The Old Retired Petty Officer is venting his spleen here, alright.

Obama is also arrogant to t... (Below threshold)
just me:

Obama is also arrogant to the point that he can't admit when he is wrong.

All he really needs to say is "hey I was wrong, but based on the facts I was looking at then, I thought my position was the correct one."

That is much better than trying to say somehow he was right then and we just got lucky=or shoot I am not really sure what he is trying to say.

But the one thing I notice over and over again is just how unwilling Obama is to admit he was wrong about anything.

Obama's interview last nigh... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Obama's interview last night reminded me of the Fonz from Happy Days - he couldn't admit he was wr- wro - w- (goes over and hits jukebox, which starts playing "Ain't That a Shame"...)

He ain't mayoral quality yet, much less Presidential.

"Obama is also arrogant ... (Below threshold)
John S:

"Obama is also arrogant to the point that he can't admit when he is wrong... "

Just like the #%@&* Clintons. We really need four more years of that?

CHAGNE WE CANT BELIVE IN th... (Below threshold)
Wildbird:

CHAGNE WE CANT BELIVE IN this OBAMA is a fruad his ideas of change will take america from a sovrein nation to part of the NORTH AMERICAN UNION under the control of evil liberls

"...but the Iraqis still... (Below threshold)

"...but the Iraqis still haven't taken a responsibility."

In the meantime, ANOTHER province, specifically Anbar province, has been turned over to the Iraqis.

I suspect he doesn't know that because the NYT didn't feel it warranted anything close to front page.

topic: Obama is/was wrong</... (Below threshold)

topic: Obama is/was wrong

my post: The affect his very public degradations (as in, his wrongness. see above) of A CURRENT AMERICAN WAR EFFORT has on the success of that effort, ie; Sen. Obama and others in congress have been offering up a very calculated (to be self fullfiling) lie designed to damage America. You know, help the enemy win by killing more of ours so they can say, "See, I told you we should surrender!"

Off topic my arse. What, was the censorship to appease the whiny libs? (time it will take to delete this post: 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3...)

In his new book, "... (Below threshold)
Neo:
In his new book, "The War Within," Woodward now pretends the U.S. troop "surge" that President Bush ordered in Iraq was not the primary reason for the dramatic reduction of violence in that country over the last year, that it was the pre-surge troops and the Iraqis acting on their own.

Unfortunately for Woodward, his book comes out exactly as Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama broke from the Democratic orthodoxy and conceded that the "surge" worked.




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