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Gibson v. Palin

The first aired part of ABC's Charles Gibson interview with Sarah Palin had the air of an interrogation, taking aim at her experience and foreign policy knowledge.

For Palin's part, as Politico also opines, she "appears to have held her own" and got through an aggressive line of questioning without any gaffes, stayed on message, and was able to articulate on her weaker points and put them under a positive light. To some very specific questions she was general in response, which avoids impressing as it avoids failing. In this respect, the times she gave generalized answers are no different than responses given by any candidate on various issues in any campaign.

For Gibson's part, his aggressive tone and mannerisms likely were to the delight of Obama supporters looking for blood in the water and angering to McCain supporters who may see blood on Gibson's hands. The questions asked, and the often smug expressions and mannerisms accompanying them, were at times unprofessional and condescending. Had Bill O'Reilly conducted his interview with Barack Obama in the same manner, Obama supporters would have been rightly upset. At several points, it seemed the only aspect that separated Gibson's journalistic conduct from an outright shout-down were decibel levels.

The interview seems heavily and roughly edited in many places, with Palin's responses either cut into or cut away from, leaving the viewer to wonder if they had heard the entire response.

Early in the interview, Gibson asked Palin if she could "look the country in the eye and say, 'I have the experience, I have the ability, to be not just Vice President, but perhaps President'?" It's a fair one to ask of any Vice Presidential candidate, if only it were. Palin handled the question well, but what followed was little short of a verbal assault.

After she answered that she was confident and ready, the next question seemed to be one to challenge the integrity of her answer. Gibson asked if Palin paused when John McCain asked her to take the number two spot on the ticket, and "for a moment, did you think 'No'?" She did not, she said and then elaborated. Gibson jumped in, "And you didn't say to yourself, 'Am I experienced enough? Am I ready?" Again, she said she did not hesitate. And that's when Gibson interrupted her mid-sentence and opined in the form of a question, "Doesn't that take some hubris?"

Gibson seemed never satisfied with her answers that she did not hesitate to say yes and that she feels she is ready and confident. The tone did not change throughout the interview and carried with it an overriding tone of guilty until proven innocent.

It is impossible to watch the interview without coming away with an undeniable impression that the interviewer is opposed to the interviewee. A similar tack taken by Gibson in an interview with the other candidates would perhaps dampen that impression. But it's not to be found. Such is the state of 'hard' news and journalism in America today.

Update: May also like to see:
Power Line: On Paper, An Excellent Performance
Commentary (Jennifer Rubin): Her First Interview
(H/T Again: Bookworm Room)


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"It is impossible to watch ... (Below threshold)
jp2:

"It is impossible to watch the interview without coming away with an undeniable impression that the interviewer is opposed to the interviewee."

Ummm, I shouldn't having to be telling you this, but you don't understand the basic point of journalism.

Not everything can be creamy like a Hume interview. Either way, failed tonight.

Oh, but read some of the po... (Below threshold)
dooz:

Oh, but read some of the posts in this and other conservative blogs, and you'll "see" that the MSM are puppets of the Right, and always looking for dirt on the Democrats.

I'd say this interview proves that, right? And George Stephanopoulos pounded away at Obama recently, never being satisfied his answers, right? He really pinned him to the wall on Bill Ayers, didn't he!

Oh, puh-leeze!

HOWEVER, the real point of the story here is that "novice candidate" Palin handled it, and handled it well. Other than her posture (bent back), she showed not a hint of intimidation or lack of cogent response. She gave good answers to the Inquisitor--AND she held off from just decking the jerk.

Set and match Palin.

Not looking for creamy. I w... (Below threshold)
Steve Schippert:

Not looking for creamy. I would settle for something this side of an oppositional interrogation.

The mannerisms combined with the interruption challenging about "hubris" alone put it on the far side of that line.

Suffice to say, if you are ... (Below threshold)

Suffice to say, if you are inspired by Sarah Palin, "chuckles jips'em" and the rest of the lamestreamers think you are a pinhead.

I can't wait until their "barack o'prompter" is crushed by McCain/Palin.

Prediction: When riots result from obambis' utter failure at the polls, the drive-bys will live up to their name by sympathizing with the street thugs pulling single white women out of their cars and pummeling them visciously. Course, it'll be all the fault of "racist America".

Steve,After viewing ... (Below threshold)

Steve,
After viewing this interview, I came away with two observations:

Sarah Palin is cool under pressure and qualified and competent for the post. Her answers were simple, forthright and direct, and will resonate with sensible Americans, despite Gibson's attempts to cast her in a bad light ("a blizzard of words"?!?!?).

Charlie Gibson has shown himself to be a biased, pompous ass. The only way he could change my impression of him is if he grilled Obama the same way. In fact, if Gibson handled ALL his interviews this way, I'd be inclined to believe he was doing his job as a member of the fourth estate should be. But he doesn't.

Yet one more execreble example of the mainstream media's left bias and all out crusade to delegitimize Palin. They're out to destroy her. They have to. She's THAT good.

Andrea Shea King
The Radio Patriot

I ask this with all deferen... (Below threshold)
BobO:

I ask this with all deference and respect, but ARE YOU ON CRACK?

Did you actually see the Palin interview? Did you see O'Reilly grill Obama?

C-

jp2 - "Not everything c... (Below threshold)
marc:

jp2 - "Not everything can be creamy like a Hume interview. Either way, failed tonight."

You've well established your attitude here that makes it easy to surmise anything short of complete capitulation and admission to every crappy false rumor thrown her way is the ONLY thing that would have you grade her performance higher than "failed."

In that light, bugger off!

One point, while Gov Palin gave a general answer to Gibson on the Bush doctrine she should have tagged on the end of it a question to him:

"Why are you asking me about the Bush doctrine? When and if we are elected it would no longer would apply. Are you attempting to link the two as the majority of the MSM and the Obama camp are doing?"

The man I suspect would have been flummoxed to the core and stumbled thru the remainder of the interview, AND she would have won over more than a few more votes.

The interview seems heav... (Below threshold)
Brian:

The interview seems heavily and roughly edited in many places, with Palin's responses either cut into or cut away from, leaving the viewer to wonder if they had heard the entire response.

This was a condition imposed by the McCain camp. They refused to allow her to do a live or uncut interview, and required that it be taped over two days. Why do you think that was? Compare with Obama on O'Reilly.

This was great. A perfect c... (Below threshold)

This was great. A perfect contrast between a vertebrate and an egg sucker. America has seen the future in Sarah, and we are laughing at our pathetic in gibson.

a blizzard of words

Yeah, and we all know you would condescend to obambi about his pathetic stuttering and uh, er, um, uh, uh, uh, stammering. Oh, that's right, with him you will both be reading from the same script so, I guess he'd get by on one "Uh" per sentence.

Um, did everybody just happ... (Below threshold)
Jesus Christ:

Um, did everybody just happen to miss the part where she needed Charlie Gibson to tell her the definition of the Bush Doctrine?

Jesus, this chick is scary.

Brian - "This was a con... (Below threshold)
marc:

Brian - "This was a condition imposed by the McCain camp. They refused to allow her to do a live or uncut interview, and required that it be taped over two days. Why do you think that was? Compare with Obama on O'Reilly.

You may be right, there may have been "conditions," forgive me for not taking what you say at face value. Or at any value.

Citation please, with linked source so we can all judge what they were rather than take your implied meaning.

That said why do you think ABC edited Gibson "exact words" comment out of the west coast version Brian?

On a related topic, considering a comparison should be made between the two VP candidates, you know, one of those apples to apples kind of things. Something Obama has cast aside as he's spent more time running against the VP slot than the top spot the last week or so.

ObamaMessiah's VP/gaff machine has had a couple muzzles placed in his entourage.

Aides to Obama said that Biden's propensity to misspeak could pose problems, particularly in the vice-presidential debate on Oct. 2. They are watching his performance on the trail warily, but so far have not tried to rein him in.

But they have assigned a couple of veteran minders to travel with him - David Wilhelm, the former Democratic National Committee chairman, and David Wade, former spokesman for Senator John Kerry. Wade said that Biden's occasional stumbles prove to voters that he is human and that they help them relate to the candidate.
Go ahead, leave your "spokesman for Kerry jokes" below. Kerry is and was running a close second to Biden in the gaff department so yes he needed a spokesman.

I don't know if ive seen th... (Below threshold)
Baggi:

I don't know if ive seen the right video or not but what I have seen ive found unwatchable.

The way its edited just seems very strange to me and is off putting.

Maybe i'm watching an edited version or something to cut down on time. Wish I would have seen it on tv, the edited version ive seen is just horrible.

jc - "Um, did everybody... (Below threshold)
marc:

jc - "Um, did everybody just happen to miss the part where she needed Charlie Gibson to tell her the definition of the Bush Doctrine?

Did you miss the part where the Bush doctrine no longer applies after Jan. 2009? Obviously you and Gibson failed in that department.

This gets funny ,she has in... (Below threshold)
Sam:

This gets funny ,she has insights in Russia as she can see Russia from an Island in Alaska.

jp2 - "Not everyth... (Below threshold)
jp2 - "Not everything can be creamy like a Hume interview. Either way, failed tonight."
I wonder if jp2 has anything to say that he hadn't already written in his mind before the interview was made?
"Um, did everybody just hap... (Below threshold)
cirby:

"Um, did everybody just happen to miss the part where she needed Charlie Gibson to tell her the definition of the Bush Doctrine?"

...and the part where no two people seem to have the same definition of "the Bush Doctrine," so it's a good idea to get the interviewer's definition first? Gibson didn't mention that, did he?

"Um, did everybody just hap... (Below threshold)
Steve Schippert:

"Um, did everybody just happen to miss the part where she needed Charlie Gibson to tell her the definition of the Bush Doctrine?"

No, he asked her if she agreed with it. And she asked him which part.

The Bush Doctrine is not "Go there, Kill babies." It's a rather large body of foreign policy and national security policy directions based on principles held.

When asked if one agrees or disagrees with 'it,' only an idiot says flatly 'yes' or 'no,' with or without further articulation.

In the manner it was asked, it was a loaded question meant to generate a usable soundbite to please those who say flatly 'no.' She de-fanged the question.

I wasn't jumping up and down with excitement at some of her answers last night, but that by her I thought was masterful.

It doesn't matter what whit... (Below threshold)
Larry:

It doesn't matter what white males think except maybe a little bit. It doesn't matter what the true believer obamanuts think except to the extent they try to trash Palin. All the pundits and all the the Messiah's men can't put humpty together again. Obama is facing a new and different challenge in his quest to get elected.

What matters is what white, middle class women and those from the lower socio-economic strata think. More correctly, how those groups react EMOTIONALLY!

If they think she did WELL = vote for Sarah.

If they think Gibson tried to make her look bad UNFAIRLY = vote for SaraH.

If they think Gibson looked DOWN on Sarah = vote for Sarah.

This is all about communicating choice to women.

There is a likeability index between women, which is different than the one used for men. See, it works like this; women have a different standard when it comes to liking other women than do men. It is more emotional based than with men. I don't claim to understand it. I just know it exists. Women take one look at another woman and either like her or think she is a pretentious bitch, or whatever. Those who like pretentious bitches are of that type.

From there, they either defend her or slam her.

There are probably just a handfull of pundits who could have interviewed Palin and done a credible job without evoking emotions either positive or negative in the demographic target that is Sarah's to win or lose and thereby win or lose the election; Susan Estrich and Greta come to mind and few else.

Certainly NOT Campbell Brown or a host of others.

In my opinion, once again, the MSM blew it. So far, the MSM is PUSHING voters away from Obama into the arms of the Republicans. And that isn't only in the Presidential race, it translates to Congress as well.

Larry

Everyone,The left ... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

Everyone,

The left is making a big deal of "the Bush doctrine". Remember, President Bush never used the term the "Bush Doctrine" -- he never said, this is my doctrine. This is important -- the description was made up by the left and up to this point have used it with a negative connotation. For example, we at Wizbang hardly ever use that description. So if someone asks what is the "Bush Doctrine" -- we have every right to ask what the person means by that, because for conservatives, pre-emptive strikes or whatever defense against whoever our enemies is what is called, "national defense".

We learned that Gov Palin i... (Below threshold)
moseby:

We learned that Gov Palin is cool and collected and that gibby-boy is an msm liberal hack. Oh yeah...we also confirmed again that ABC News management stinks!!

Gibson not only ask if acce... (Below threshold)
C. Bensing:

Gibson not only ask if accepting the nomination for VP was hubris and described one of her answers as a blizzard of words but yes some of her answers were cut. I watched the interview and then went in and saw a transcript of the interview and was amazed to see some of her answers were cut. I emailed ABC and I hope they get a (blizzard) of emails decrying this obvious attempt to make her look bad (also the camera angle and close up every time she answered while sitting back when he questioned)these people in the MSM are parasites on our society if they can't do their jobs with some degree of truth they should be replaced with someone who can. I intend to let their sponsors know just how unacceptable this one sided coverage is.
C. Bensing

The detractors here are lau... (Below threshold)

The detractors here are laughable. Their opinion was already formed. Then they pull one soundbite from an interview overflowing with condescension and an underlying hostility by an interviewer who clearly disbelieves hers answers, asking again the same thing in disbelief and in essence they conclude, "She sucks." I'm shocked.

"Not everything can be creamy like a Hume interview. Either way, failed tonight."

Nobody's looking for a creamy interview. Using hyperbole to demonstrate that opinion is silly. But we ARE looking for someone who can take an answer and not imply that it's a lie, or at the very least, disbelievable. We're looking for someone who will not ask a question 3 times by finally verbally redefining the word "confidence" as "hubris". Talk about hubris....

The whole thing was difficult to watch after that.

Gibson ain't no Russert. People are treating him as the quintessential journalist. Not by a long shot.

He was hoping for, nay expecting, an answer about her self-confidence that he or the Obamabots could capitalize on later:

"Palin had ask herself if she was ready - displays lack of confidence!"

Obama, who has less executive experience declares "he's ready" and it's accepted as gospel. He's confident!

...this chick is scary.<... (Below threshold)
Clay:

...this chick is scary.

I know Jesus Christ; Jesus Christ is a friend of mine. Sir, you're no Jesus Christ.

I hate typos.... (Below threshold)

I hate typos.

Sara should have grabbed Gi... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Sara should have grabbed Gibson by the balls and asked him "And what makes you think you're qualified to interview me?"

BARACK OBAMA: In a conferen... (Below threshold)

BARACK OBAMA: In a conference call with reporters, Obama said Clinton would continue the "Bush doctrine" of only speaking to leaders of rogue nations if they first meet conditions laid out by the United States.

Looks like Obama doesn't know what the Bush Doctrine is!

http://cesspoolofhumanity.blogspot.com/

As a great philosopher once... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

As a great philosopher once said;

"See you at the debates, bitches."
~Paris Hilton

"See you at the debates,... (Below threshold)
Clay:

"See you at the debates, bitches."

Oh yeah. Oct. 2 will find me in Gunma, Japan, so I'll be watching Biden get trounced on my slingbox. I watched the Super Bowl in Tel Aviv the same way.

Biden's best strategy: Don't show.

GIBSON: But this is not jus... (Below threshold)
Rance:

GIBSON: But this is not just reforming a government. This is also running a government on the huge international stage, in a very dangerous world. When I asked John McCain about your national security credentials, he cited the fact you have command of the Alaskan National Guard and Alaska is close to Russia. Are those sufficient credentials?

PALIN: But it is about reform of government. And it's about putting government back on the side of the people. And that has much to do with foreign policy and national security issues.

Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie. And that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years, as the governor of this state, that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy. That I worked on as chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conversation Commission, overseeing the oil and gas developments in our state, to produce more for the United States.

So the strongest point on her national security resume is that she was on the Oil and Gas commission. To me that sounds pretty weak, but then:

"She knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America" - John McCain

Maybe we ought to appoint her and T. Boone Pickens directly to the Joint Chiefs.

Hey Rance.What's o... (Below threshold)
ed davis:

Hey Rance.

What's on Obama's "national security resume"?


Ed,She wasn't aske... (Below threshold)
Rance:

Ed,

She wasn't asked about Obama's resume, she was asked about hers, and that was her answer. That's what she put forth as her best response.

If I had my druthers for someone with a national security background, I would be voting for Colin Powell, but he's not interested in running.

Rance - "So the stronge... (Below threshold)
marc:

Rance - "So the strongest point on her national security resume is that she was on the Oil and Gas commission. To me that sounds pretty weak, but then:"

What was on B.Clinton's national security resume?
Carter's?
Truman's?
The shyster Edwards if you want to compare even job for both applicants?

And yes as E. Davis noted, One of Obama's minions was on a morning show and answered, he was chairman of a foreign relations sub-committee.

Funny when asked why he never called a meeting of that sub-committee the hack changed the subject.

Hi Rance.You are r... (Below threshold)
ed davis:

Hi Rance.

You are right. She wasn't asked about Obama's qualifications. Seems like no one wants to ask anyone about Obama's resume, let alone Obama himself.

That is why I asked you.

I submit that what you entered in comment #29 as evidence against Palin's readiness is better than Obama's entire life experience as preparation to be Commander in Chief. If you say Sarah is ill prepared, how is it Obama is better prepared than her? How can anyone put him on a pedestal of valuable experience in one half of a sentence while belittling Palin's experience in the other half?

So, what's on Obama's "national security resume"?

Ok, this was a partisan sta... (Below threshold)

Ok, this was a partisan stalemate; libs will think she blew it and the Repub base will stand by her.
Gibson did seem a bit smug. And I have NO problem with him giving a tough interview, I just doubt he would conduct a quiz like this with the graying messiah. And although Gibson is a natural at reading a teleprompter, no one ever accused him of being that bright.
Bill Sammon reminded us, BTW, that the Bush Doctrine means about 4 different things depending on who you ask.

I guess I misedd the interv... (Below threshold)

I guess I misedd the interview where the press asked Obama if his running for President after 100 odd days in the Senate displayed 'hubris'.

Did she laugh in his face? I would have.

"I submit that what you ent... (Below threshold)
Rance:

"I submit that what you entered in comment #29 as evidence against Palin's readiness is better than Obama's entire life experience as preparation to be Commander in Chief."

What I entered in Comment #29 is evidence of a non sequitur. When asked about national security experience, you cite experience that relates to national security. The Oil and Gas experience would be great if she were being asked for her qualifications to be Secretary of Commerce.

No, she doesn't know... (Below threshold)
Larry:


No, she doesn't know more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States.

She DOES know more about energy than Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Biden, which is what the election is partially all about.

And she probably does know more than Gibson.

How does this relate to foreign affairs?

The world runs on oil. Don't believe that? You have only to look at Russia's invasion of Georgia if you are willing to understand as an Obama clone. And to be cynical, the Gulf Wars and Iraq and Iran.

We are currently headed toward a recession and that is the fault of Congress and Bush for failing to exercise regulatory oversight on the home loan industry and that the administration alowed west texas sweet to be listed where speculators could do their thing. BP and Goldman Saches are considered two of the prime movers in oil speculation that drove the price of gas to $4 bucks or higher.

In addition, Sarah Palin operates on pragmatic principal. This is a ton better than, for example, Carter operating on "Moral" grounds, which got us into stagflation and cost us Iran.

Both McCain and Palin remind me of Truman and Obama of Carter.

Which one would you rather be in office during these troubled times?

"Yet one more exec... (Below threshold)
"Yet one more execreble example of the mainstream media's left bias and all out crusade to delegitimize Palin. They're out to destroy her. They have to. She's THAT good."

Hubris, thy name is any media journalist. Alessandra Stanley, (in an article published in the International Harold Tribune), sets the perfect example of hubris in an industry so arrogant that they truly believe the sun rises and sets at their beckoning call. It is scary to think that the media believes that with a few strokes of the keyboard, they can shape the worlds view into their petty bubble of a perceived agenda. The elite media actually believe they are all "Woodwards and Bernsteins"----their anointed "Prophets of Journalism"----writing and broadcasting like they were parting the Red Sea or etching the Commandments in stone.

Example:

"Gibson, who sat back in his chair and wriggled his foot impatiently, had the skeptical, annoyed tone of a university president who agrees to interview the daughter of a trustee, but doesn't believe she merits admission."

Here, Mz. Stanley frames Charlie Gibson as the scholarly professor whose journalistic skills and wisdom rises above the PTA mom that conquered Alaska while the rest of the world waits for its turn.

Governor Sarah Palin would be well advised to use caution when doing these interviews with our esteemed media that will pick apart and parse any portion of her statements to fit their misanthropic solipsism. The ethics and integrity of the profession has slithered into the gutter of liberal socialism, and by the "Prophets", they will shape the world into their own image-----one conservative hockey mom at a time.


Oh, and Rance, one o... (Below threshold)
Larry:


Oh, and Rance, one other thing; Colin Powell is probably a good choice for Secretary of State. Oh, he had the job already. *grin*

I, for one, might even have considered voting for him for President. I don't know enough about his views past what he did as Secretary of State and in the military to make an informed decision.

A numer of my friends and I started off this election cycle wondering where to go. Most of us are not bound by party so much as who can do the job. I voted for Clinton in 1994. I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 as a choice between dumb and dumber. Or should I say real person instead of plastic and opportunist.

I would throw this question down as a challenge to anyone who really wants to vote for Obama; have you read David Freddoso's book? If you haven't, you don't know Obama. And before you get red in the face at me, keep in mind that Truman was a product of the Pendergast machine and he did a fine job, correcting his mistakes as he went along. But Obama is no Truman. Obama's self view won't allow him to stoop to that level.

Pity.

Rovin:"Governor Sa... (Below threshold)
Larry:

Rovin:

"Governor Sarah Palin would be well advised to use caution when doing these interviews with our esteemed media that will pick apart and parse any portion of her statements to fit their misanthropic solipsism. The ethics and integrity of the profession has slithered into the gutter of liberal socialism, and by the "Prophets", they will shape the world into their own image-----one conservative hockey mom at a time."

Home run. Can I quote you?

Which is STILL more than Ob... (Below threshold)
ed davis:

Which is STILL more than Obama's relevant experience.

Non sequitur? Hardly. As the producer of nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy", Alsaka has a giant bullseye on it regarding a terroist attack.

An asset that important has to be protected. Which implies security. And that responsibility, as first line of defense, rests sqarely on the shoulders of Governor Palin.

What responsibilities of that magintude rest or have ever rested squarely on Obama?

Home run. Can I quote you?<... (Below threshold)

Home run. Can I quote you?

Thanks.....by all means help yourself.

What responsibilit... (Below threshold)
What responsibilities of that magintude rest or have ever rested squarely on Obama?

Would monitoring his "pay-grade" qualify?


Just to make sure I ... (Below threshold)
Larry:


Just to make sure I understood what Rance said, I looked it up:

While misanthropes express a general dislike for humanity on the whole, they generally have normal relationships with specific individuals. Misanthropy may be motivated by feelings of isolation or social alienation, or simply contempt for the prevailing characteristics of humanity.

For the solipsist, it is not merely the case that they believe that their thoughts, experiences, and emotions are, as a matter of contingent fact, the only thoughts, experiences, and emotions that can be. Rather, the solipsist can attach no meaning to the supposition that there could be thoughts, experiences, and emotions other than their own -- that events may occur or objects or people exist independently of the solipsist's own experiences.

I would thus conclude that Rance is saying that selected parts of the media hold those who do not share their world view in contempt and cannot conceive of another other thought as worthy.

Did I get that right rance. Also note you posted the same statement on aces.

Oops sorry, I mean... (Below threshold)
Larry:

Oops sorry, I meant to say rovin.

Slim pickins, for sure Rovi... (Below threshold)
ed davis:

Slim pickins, for sure Rovin. Otherwise the question would have been answered by now.

But we all know that creating laws and tax codes that mandate Americans be neighborly is the most important platform in this election, not national security!

Telling a generous people that they don't give enough. Blech. I recall Obama speaking while Gustav was enroute to New Orleans. He pandered to the laziest of the lazy and the people who thrive on feeling like they love people more than conservatives. He was talking about how horrible Americans have it and how so many have no money because of "this administration's" failed economy (???). And then he asks his "suffering" supporters to give money? What money? Which is it? Americans are suffering or Americans have enough money to donate to people in need? All in the same damned speech.

So, let's see. He evaluates his own pay grade and has an exceptional ability to bullshit and get away with it. Old school polititian? Check. National security experience? Nope. Maybe if you stretch the bullshitting ability. But that is really stretching it.

Regardless of Charlie's ind... (Below threshold)
Lew Elion:

Regardless of Charlie's indignant sniffing, SHE IS THE VP nominee. He should direct the questions about opinion of qualifications to either Biden or never-done-nuthin.

Larry,Actually, I ... (Below threshold)

Larry,

Actually, I wrote this sometime in the early hours and posted it to my own site that usually reflects the previous days political news. It's much easier to copy and paste my own work, (if I think it's worth repeating), than to ad-lib the same thoughts.

I always loved the word solipsism to describe the state of mind of a liberal with blinders firmly placed where no other view is allowed into their pre-programed pea brains.

"Rather, the solipsist can attach no meaning to the supposition that there could be thoughts, experiences, and emotions other than their own -- that events may occur or objects or people exist independently of the solipsist's own experiences."

Thus, the "hubris of the solipsist" begats the liberal mentality we see today in our run-away media.


What was on B.Clinton's ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

What was on B.Clinton's national security resume?
Carter's?
Truman's?
The shyster Edwards if you want to compare even job for both applicants?

Reagan's?
W's?

Which just goes to show that "X experience is crucial" is just posturing, and enters the meme only when one side believes they have it over the other.

Though if you want to "compare even job for both applicants", Biden crushes Palin on that.

No he doesn't. Which is why... (Below threshold)
ed davis:

No he doesn't. Which is why he is should be and probably will be removed from the ticket.

OK, finally watched it. Tho... (Below threshold)

OK, finally watched it. Thought she did well, particularly the way she was easily able to detect his 'gotcha's and not go for them. Impressed that, for a change, a Republican kept answering badgering questions (Israel) the same way, each time the jerk interviewing them asked it.

The editing made me think of SNL or something where they chop up different interviews and 'create' one with the over the shoulder shots and cuts in mid sentence/mid thought. Really bad. They should have tried to make themselves look less obvious. People will question that and think 'wait, I want to hear more from her!' I think, which IS NOT what they want.

Has anyone confirmed if Obama was asked if he was full of exagerrated pride or self-confidence for wanting to be President on the back of less than 200 days in the Senate?

Has anyone confirmed how many foreign leaders Al Gore had met...or Bill Clinton...or (keep going back - you get the point). This WAS like the Biden 'Who is the Prime Minister of Zimbabwe' grilling, it would be foolish and dangerous to have filled out the GOP ticket with another foreign policy/national defense-centric candidate, McCain already fills that. It's like asking why Biden was chosen instead of another slick talking "idea man"...he was chosen because he had credentials Obama lacks. Gov. Palin was chosen because she possesses credentials McCain lacks, particularly on energy. I LOVED the fact that she refused to be baited by the question and instead gave a passable answer that brought in the talking points about HER strengths which Gibson would otherwise not have touched with a 20' statue of Obama. And she did it unashamedly, if it's ok for him to ask dumb questions, then she has every right to give answers that she wants to give. B+, could have been higher but they kept cutting her off, so I don't know what she actually said most of the time.

Brian - "Which just goe... (Below threshold)
marc:

Brian - "Which just goes to show that "X experience is crucial" is just posturing, and enters the meme only when one side believes they have it over the other."

You assume too much. But I see you agree, national security "chops" ain't what it's cracked up to be. At least not what Obama's minions and Palin haters (or do I repeat myself) are trying to make it seem.

Furthermore to think or imply even a presidential candidate should have intimate knowledge of every policy or possible contingency during his/her term is nonsense.

Sam wrote: "This gets funn... (Below threshold)
rkb:

Sam wrote: "This gets funny ,she has insights in Russia as she can see Russia from an Island in Alaska."

Apparently Sam is one of those complacent people who, looking down on the military, is pretty ignorant of the fact that Alaska has and still does bear the brunt of Russian threats. It's Alaskan military airfields that scramble interceptor jets whenever Russian fighters and bombers test our airspce -- as they have done over a dozen times in the last year alone.

It is Alaska that hosts key missile defense systems.

I could go on, but I fear Sam is so ill-informed that that is probably all he can absorb at one sitting - if he even can do that.

Falze - "Has anyone con... (Below threshold)
marc:

Falze - "Has anyone confirmed how many foreign leaders Al Gore had met...or Bill Clinton...or (keep going back - you get the point).

Not sure if anyone has but the point is well taken. But we do know Clinton was in the U.K. and "didn't inhale."

And we know Kerry met "many foreign leaders" during his campaign but couldn't/wouldn't (or imagined in a Cambodian Christmas way?) name them.

No he doesn't.... (Below threshold)
Brian:

No he doesn't.

Care to back that up with anything? Biden has 35 years on the Foreign Relations Committee, and is a former and current chair of it. He's been to Russia (and Georgia) in an official government capacity, and has met with multiple foreign leaders. Please explain how that is less experience than being able to see Russian land from your beach with a pair of binoculars.

Which is why he is should be and probably will be removed from the ticket.

About as likely as Palin being removed from the ticket. Enjoy your fantasy.

BTW Brian where's he link t... (Below threshold)
marc:

BTW Brian where's he link that proves your assertion that certain conditions were set for this interview by McCain? ("This was a condition imposed by the McCain camp.)

national security "chops... (Below threshold)
Brian:

national security "chops" ain't what it's cracked up to be. At least not what Obama's minions and Palin haters (or do I repeat myself) are trying to make it seem.

Nor is "executive experience" what McCain's minions and Palin lovers are trying to make it seem.

"Care to back that up with ... (Below threshold)

"Care to back that up with anything? Biden has 35 years on the Foreign Relations Committee, and is a former and current chair of it. He's been to Russia (and Georgia) in an official government capacity, and has met with multiple foreign leaders. Please explain how that is less experience than being able to see Russian land from your beach with a pair of binoculars."

I'm sorry, was Biden running for President?

BTW Brian where's he lin... (Below threshold)
Brian:

BTW Brian where's he link that proves your assertion that certain conditions were set for this interview by McCain?

Yeah, can't find it right now. The Google is too polluted with stories about the aftermath. Though it's documented that McCain's camp first approached ABC/Gibson with the interview offer, and it's hard to believe ABC would be the one to suggest such an uncommon and interviewee-favoring format.

I'm sorry, was Biden run... (Below threshold)
Brian:

I'm sorry, was Biden running for President?

No, vice president. And although the post to which I responded tried to compare Palin's experience with past presidents, I was bringing it back to "compare even job for both applicants" as vice presidents.

If you need help keeping up, just ask.

Brian - "Yeah, can't fi... (Below threshold)
marc:

Brian - "Yeah, can't find it right now."

"The check is in the mail."

"We're from the government, we're here to help you."

"4 inches added 4 applications."

Whatever.

I'm a Republican and I'm vo... (Below threshold)
Smith:

I'm a Republican and I'm voting for McCain. God Speed.

However, all of this talk that this interview had a left leaning agenda is ridiculous. The questions Gibson threw at Palin were completely appropriate and expected for someone running for one of the highest positions in America.

Brian:Preco... (Below threshold)
Larry:


Brian:

Precondition = leave Palin's kids out of it. ABC readily agreed as they didn't want to look like dailykos or the National Inquisition, whose sole claim to fame is they did expose Edwards, after Edwards was no longer a player who mattered.

Joe Biden has a ton of experience, all seen through his worldview. Jimmy Carter was President and he has subsequently traveled the world meeting with the likes of Hamas, among others. The terror states have used Carter as a useful dupe and poked him where he sits and he still doesn't get it.

Experience means nothing compared to being far enough out of the bubble that you can think clearly and what bubble influences how you think and react. The problem with Biden is that he lives in the bubble and the problem with Carter is that he is and was a lightweight elected because Nixon lost control.

I still haven't figured out who/what Obama is or will be if he gets elected. Yea, I see all the predictions. I have found that predictions of what a Supreme Court Judge will do prior to being on the bench and what Presidents will do are usually not very accurate. I am reading Freddoso's book to help me understand.

Oh, please. Your standard M... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Oh, please. Your standard M.O. is to demand proof of any fact that counters what you want to believe. And when consistently provided in the past, you then just slink off silently to lick your wounds. OK, fine, one time I can't find the link to what I read days ago. You got me, big man.

Larry, I'm not sure why you... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Larry, I'm not sure why you directed that post at me. Your argument is that experience means nothing, which is a different argument from "experience means everything and Palin has it".

That's not to say that I wouldn't agree with you on some points, but it's curious how the "experience means nothing" argument only seems to make an appearance regarding the Democratic candidates, and not the Republican ones.

jp2~Not e... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

jp2~

Not everything can be creamy like a Hume interview. Either way, failed tonight.

You like the word "failed", don't you, jp2? Well, all you have to do is compare the other interviews with Palin's, and you will see that some are "creamier" than others. I would love to hear you detail how you feel she failed with all the obstacles put in front of her, but I know it's futile to expect something of substance when you are asked for it.

Curious. Do you feel like a failure and that is why you project it on her so much? I hope you realize by just saying the word, you exacerbate your own situation.

Anyway, I think Sarah is holding up just fine and women should be proud of the courage she is showing. The American public in general should be intrigued by her ability to take on the smarmiest media devices.

brian - "Oh, please. Yo... (Below threshold)
marc:

brian - "Oh, please. Your standard M.O. is to demand proof of any fact that counters what you want to believe. And when consistently provided in the past, you then just slink off silently to lick your wounds."

It's my standard MO because the majority of time I make a point that requires it I provide them, something you rarely do and on occasion are disingenuous enough to overlook your own linked source disprove part or all of your assertions.

Additionally this point was apparently important to you as you noted in two different threads, but not important enough to remember (why, there's a thing called bookmarks in browsers?).

Oh, and feel free to find any "slink off" thread.

You know, one that actually proves your contention. One that shows without doubt there couldn't possibly be ANY other reason but what your feeble mind conjures up.

Brian,Nope. I don'... (Below threshold)
ed davis:

Brian,

Nope. I don't care to back it up with anything. You said he CRUSHES her. Fine. If you believe that, it won't do any good to "back that up". Opening your mind to any other train of thought would require LSD, MDMA and unlimited access to everything in the Playboy Mansion.

DRUDGE: Brian says that "if you want to 'compare even job for both applicants', Biden crushes Palin on that".

Applicants for what? I must be confused. Are McCain & Obama campaigning for President? Or is it Palin & Biden?

I didn't say one crushed the other. You did. A point that is being made here in this thread is that puts Obama is LAST in the line of Presidential/Vice Presidential nominees' ranking of experience necessary to be Commander in Chief. If Biden "crushes" Palin, just where in the hell does that leave Obama?

Face it. The Democratic ticket is backwards. The guy with more experience is the VP nominee. And he was handily rejected in primary elections a couple of times. I say that is weak. What a crappy ticket. No way I could ever pull that lever.

Now, as far as a "fantasy" (more like a fucking nightmare) goes, the point is that Biden was a weak pick for VP. Obama should have shown his "neighborliness" and ability to rise above old school politics and tapped Hillary. Biden agrees!

Wow. A few days of pressure from plummeting poll numbers and this Crusher of Palin says weak ass shit like that? Yeah, well, you can see him as Commander in Chief. Fine. While you are FANTASIZING about that, consider the possibility that any power hungry tyrant in the world would see him as a dumb ass and a big fucking PUSSY.

Hillary being the VP under Obama is no fantasy of mine, believe me. I was stunned that he didn't pick her. The election would be a simple formality. I would think that Obama's camp knows this and has a lot of buyer's anxiety right now. Switching to Hillary shouldn't be that tough and it would really rock the polls in Obama's favor for a decent amount of time following any press release.

Say, maybe in October?

Oh, the question remains un... (Below threshold)
ed davis:

Oh, the question remains unanswered:

What's on Obama's "national security resume"?

Nope. I don't care to ba... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Nope. I don't care to back it up with anything.

Thought not.

Applicants for what? I must be confused.

Apparently so. Palin and Biden are both running for VP.

ed davis - "Face it. Th... (Below threshold)
marc:

ed davis - "Face it. The Democratic ticket is backwards. The guy with more experience is the VP nominee. And he was handily rejected in primary elections a couple of times. I say that is weak. What a crappy ticket. No way I could ever pull that lever."

Sure is, and the Dems are seeing it. finally, and are starting to not only worry about chances of gaining the WH but the other two houses as well:

Democratic jitters about the US presidential race have spread to Capitol Hill, where some members of Congress are worried that Barack Obama's faltering campaign could hurt their chances of re-election.

Party leaders have been hoping to strengthen Democratic control of the House and Senate in November, but John McCain's jump in the polls has stoked fears of a Republican resurgence.

A Democratic fundraiser for Congressional candidates said some planned to distance themselves from Mr Obama and not attack Mr McCain.

"If people are voting for McCain it could help Republicans all the way down the ticket, even in a year when the Democrats should be sweeping all before us," said the fundraiser, a former Hillary Clinton supporter.

"There is a growing sense of doom among Democrats I have spoken to . . . People are going crazy, telling the campaign 'you've got to do something'."

And BTW, if this election is about "change," the American electorate may be seeing where the change really needs to be, Congress.

It kinda looks like that "wrong track" meme the Dems, Obama, Biden and the lefturds are using is slowly fading away as people understand how things got diverted to the wrong track.

I'll speak slowly, Brian.</... (Below threshold)

I'll speak slowly, Brian.

O-ba-ma is the dem-o-crat run-ning for pre-si-dent. He has no ex-pee-ree-eeeeeence. Com-paaaa-rinnnng sloooo-ooow Joooo-oooe's ex-pee-ree-eeeeence to Paaaaa-lin makes yooooooou loooook duuuuummmmm.

Should I draw you a picture? Unless you'd care to start arguing that Obama should swap places on the ticket with Biden, going after the other party's veep when your presidential candidate has all of one wicked cool summer vacation as his 'foreign relations experience' is, really, quite lame. But all I would expect of a self-impressed troll who I GUARANTEE thinks he is doing 'quite well' 'debating' the 'wing nuts' at Wizbang. You just keep listening to Palin trip-trapping over your bridge...the polls were expected to show McCain's convention bounce fade, instead he keeps pulling further ahead and all the Obama's press and all the Obama's trolls can't put him together again.

I'll speak slowly, Brian... (Below threshold)
Brian:

I'll speak slowly, Brian.
O-ba-ma is the dem-o-crat run-ning for pre-si-dent. He has no ex-pee-ree-eeeeeence. Com-paaaa-rinnnng sloooo-ooow Joooo-oooe's ex-pee-ree-eeeeence to Paaaaa-lin makes yooooooou loooook duuuuummmmm.

Nope, speaking slower didn't help you understand. Try again. The comment I was responding to compared Palin's experience with past presidents, and then switched to Edwards to "compare even job [vice president] for both applicants". So I followed suit and compared with Biden, the current "even job [vice president] for both applicants".

In what way is it dumb to compare the experience of the two candidates for the same position?

I still think it's funny th... (Below threshold)

I still think it's funny that by ineffectively, for anyone but his supporters, tying McCain to Bush he's been essentially running against someone who isn't even in the race, and now he's running against the VP candidate on the other side.

I get a chuckle out of it every day.

tying McCain to Bush he'... (Below threshold)
Brian:

tying McCain to Bush he's been essentially running against someone who isn't even in the race

And in running against Gore, Bush didn't also run against Clinton?

Brian - "And in running... (Below threshold)
marc:

Brian - "And in running against Gore, Bush didn't also run against Clinton?"

Funny, The Goracle many believe lost that election in large part because he spurned having Bill Clinton on his campaign trail.

Now 8 years later it may be a repeat with ObamaMessiah spurning Hillary as VP.

Slightly off, but still related.

Charles Gibson's middle name is Charles deWolf Gibson.

Is it just me or do I see a connection between that and having one of The View bobbleheads whining about Gov. Palin shooting wolves from the air?

The Goracle many believe... (Below threshold)
Brian:

The Goracle many believe lost that election in large part because he spurned having Bill Clinton on his campaign trail.

That may be true. And also true that Bush ran against Clinton.

Brian - "That may be tr... (Below threshold)
marc:

Brian - "That may be true. And also true that Bush ran against Clinton."

So who gives a shit in a Frisbee other than you?

Well, Oyster for one, since... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Well, Oyster for one, since she raised the topic of a candidate running against a termed-out president. And you, since you chose twice to post on the topic. Other than that, I suppose no one.

Sorry Brian, you chose to i... (Below threshold)
marc:

Sorry Brian, you chose to insert your own reality into my comment because I, OMG, didn't include a couple of republicans in a list of those lacking national security experience.

As a result you screamed and yelped like a mutt with turpentine on his ass.

The media is finally starti... (Below threshold)
Dave:

The media is finally starting to ask real questions and demanding real responses. Anybody catch The View today?

No, I was responding to Oys... (Below threshold)
Brian:

No, I was responding to Oyster's comment, and you responded to mine, then asked who cares, and are now pretending my comment was related to some other earlier topic.

Seriously... get glasses, or get help.

Let's assume your assessmen... (Below threshold)

Let's assume your assessment is true. There's a difference you don't consider; Gore was Clinton's VP. McCain is not Bush's VP.

But he's a republican and they're all the same, doncha know.

Brian:"Larr... (Below threshold)
Larry:


Brian:

"Larry, I'm not sure why you directed that post at me. Your argument is that experience means nothing, which is a different argument from "experience means everything and Palin has it".

You didn't quote the rest of what I said. Here, let me give it to you:

"compared to being far enough out of the bubble that you can think clearly and what bubble influences how you think and react. The problem with Biden is that he lives in the bubble"

The Obama campaign is jumping all over McCain's remark that Mayors are more in touch than Senators. I think this is a huge mistake. See, it is that Senators, media and some political loyalists live in a bubble of their own making. They are simply out of touch with Mr. and Mrs. Average American. My personal opinion is that McCain hit it right on the head.

To understand Obama, you need to read a couple of books. I recommend Audacity and Freddoso's, the first by Obama and the later by someone who is trying to lay out the stuff Obama left out.

Obama has lived in a bubble. He is a very gifted man, whose major flaw is that he has no connection with mainstream. He was a good community organizer who eventually realized he wasn't helping anyone. He is and was a gifted politician who knew how to game the system as it stands in Illinois, otherwise known as Louisiana North. Illinois politics is a cesspool.

The last Republican to hold the Illinois Senate seat now occupied by Obama, got a namesake (no relation) put in as US Attorney, Patrick Fitzgerald. Since then, Fitzgerald has been putting Obama fellow travelers in jail including Rezko.

Do you know who Emil Jones is? Do you know who Stroger, father and son is? If you can honestly say no, then you don't understand Obama's roots.

And speaking of in the bubble, here is an interesting quote from Bobby Rush, D. Illinois:

"Went to Harvard and became an educated fool. . ."

"Barack is a person who read about the civil rights protests and thinks he knows all about it. . ."

And one from Senator Donne Trotter (D : "Barack is viewed in part to be the white man in blackfacew in our community. You just have to look at his supporters. Who pushed him to get where he is so fast? It's those individuals in Hyde Park, who don't always have the best interests of the community in mind."

He was talking about the white Liberals where Obama lives. Uh, Like Ayers !!!

There is a ton of evidence that experience is useful when one starts as Presidents, yet we have had Presidents who didn't have much who were great and a number who have had experience who flunked badly. Examples of great do not include JFK or LBJ. One had experience, the other lived in a bubble. Both were failures.

Truman and Lincoln had no experience to speak of and they were both great Presidents. Carter had experience and he was the worse one in the past Century. Reagan had a ton of experience and he did great. And so on.

I don't speak for the Republican Party or any other person responding on here. My comments about experience are my own and belong to nobody else.

The official over/un... (Below threshold)
Larry:


The official over/under for comments on Lee Ward's take on Palin/Gibson is 12. Who wants over and who wants under?

Lee Ward is an example of someone living in a bubble. He eventually boots anyone off of blue who doesn't agree with him.

The "Bush Doctrine" questio... (Below threshold)

The "Bush Doctrine" question, among others was unprofessional. Mr. Gibson didn't know enough about the "Bush Doctrine" to field a question. Mr. Gibson had to answer Governor Palin's question about specifics, with yet another question. Either Charlie Gibson was unprepared to articulate the "Bush Doctrine," or so intent on leading the interview or both was he, that when Ms. Palin asked for clarification Charlie blew it. By tossing the erroneous question back into her lap, Mr. Gibson appeared at least a lazy journalist. So, I'm not surprised Charlie Gibson misquoted the prayer either. Sarah Palin did an excellent job of articulating her take on the "Bush Doctrine." Don't do your homework, it'll show. And, and I noticed the demeaning TV camera techniques. One might have expected a hint of impartiality; I instead had to do a double take to see whether they hadn't sawed the legs off Ms. Palin's chair: http://theseedsof9-11.com

You people scare me. ... (Below threshold)
Stephan Unger:

You people scare me.

Charlie was just doing the ... (Below threshold)
W G Martin:

Charlie was just doing the leftist bidding to make her look as bad as possible, to elevate the yet to be Cannonized St Obammy, to a higher level of diety!

His only fault is his obvious smuggness and real relish, when he publicly humiliated the Gov because she wasn't all that aware of a constantly changing Bush Doctrine!

Charlie you will be the one crying foul, when you and your leftist biased news media is thrown again on the dung heap of lost left wing causes!

Great article teach. I ag... (Below threshold)
E. Donohue:

Great article teach. I agree 100% with your assessment and you are so on point.

Yes, Gibson betrayed his responsibility in objectivity; but his points are very obvious. Personally, I think McCain could've done a better job in selecting a Vice President candidate and my view it has nothing to do with Palin being a woman (I live with a wife and two daughters - only women!!!). His selection just seemed, to me, to be a reaction to Obama being African-American.
It just makes me sick that, given that this will probably be the most important election in my lifetime, sexism and racism are prominant factors here.

Keep up the great journalism!!!




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