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Barack Obama votes "Present" on the AIG bailout

He's not against it, but he's also not for it...

Check out the exchange on Politico:

...Obama, who is being lashed today by McCain for refusing to take a position on the issue, is still refusing to say if he backs the bailout.

"So he's not against the move -- not 'second guessing' -- but also isn't expressing support?" I asked.

"Right," Burton replied.

Translation: "Present!"


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He's taking the 5th amendme... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

He's taking the 5th amendment at this time. Stay tuned...

I am sure Obama will wait a... (Below threshold)
kefka08 Author Profile Page:

I am sure Obama will wait and see what public opinion is in a few days and then he will be all for that, whatever it is. It is unfortunate that he had to campaign and Republican smear merchants kept him from voting, etc. He's a really leader all right.

It's gonna be really funny ... (Below threshold)
Paul Duffau:

It's gonna be really funny if the "crisis" that the democrats thought would help them exposes Obama as "Bambi" staring into the headlights of the real world.

"Present" {snicker}

Strong leadership, there. {snort}

This has been one fun election cycle.

Sorry for the OT, but Free ... (Below threshold)
Son Of The Godfather:

Sorry for the OT, but Free Republic has a posting that Sarah Palin has been disinvited to the anti-Iran rally because of political reasons... the very same rally Hilldawg was invited to, but backed out of since Sarah was going.

Wow.

taking the 5th amendment... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

taking the 5th amendment

Sort of like Palin-McCain pulling a Clinton and trying to Starr-ize the Troopergate investigation in Alaska. Only not so bad as that. Why not? Because there is no good opinion whether the U.S. should have nationalized the country's largest insurer in order to prevent a complete meltdown of our financial system. I'll ask you: Do you think it is good or bad that we have nationalized AIG?

Sometimes -- please follow carefully now -- there is NO GOOD CHOICE. That happens when things are completely FUBAR due to gross incompetence, duplicity, and years of neglect. Like when we found ourselves targets in an Iraqi civil war after our alleged "leaders" lied us into an unnecessary war. The goal of leadership -- stay with me if you can -- is to AVOID getting the country into FUBAR situations. That might explain why McSame was against the AIG bailout the day before he was against the AIG bailout. It may also somehow explain also why McSame is threatening to fire the SEC chair even though not even the (actual) president can do that. Though it can not explain -- nothing can -- why McCain doesn't know who the leader of Spain is. Maybe we should play "Stump-the Candidate" with him instead of the Alaskan Bill Clinton.

Must've been that "How to b... (Below threshold)

Must've been that "How to be a double-dealin-wishy-washy type" chapter in those Saul Alinsky books.

Sort of like Palin... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
Sort of like Palin-McCain pulling a Clinton and trying to Starr-ize the Troopergate investigation in Alaska.

wbgonne~

"Sort of"? Is that like "not quite"? Lazy cliches and shorthand doesn't work here. Go take your nap, now.

Lazy cliches and shortha... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

Lazy cliches and shorthand doesn't work here.

Yes, you are noted throughout the internet for your deep thinking and pithy writing. I'll bet you didn't like it when Bill Clinton did it to Ken Starr. But it's OK when McCain-Palin do it to some poor rubes in Alaska. Or maybe I'm wrong about that. Maybe you supported Bill Clinton's effort to demonize Ken Starr and destroy his investigation. If so, please tell us in your deep elegant prose. Otherwise . . .

Yes, you are noted... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
Yes, you are noted throughout the internet for your deep thinking and pithy writing.

Making more stuff up as you go, or are you also an e-mail hacker that has me mistaken for someone else. Remember, you are the one who used the word rubes. What does that say about your perception of people, sarcastic or otherwise?

wbgonne: What is Obama's p... (Below threshold)
Paul Duffau:

wbgonne: What is Obama's position on the AIG bailout? That is the topic of the post.

To answer your question, I think it was a bad idea.

Remember, you are the on... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

Remember, you are the one who used the word rubes.

And I have on occasion used the word niggardly . Keep a stout heart and your dictionary handy.

Uhm, wbgonne? We're talking... (Below threshold)
Clay:

Uhm, wbgonne? We're talking about Obama's refusal to take a position on the AIG bailout. Do you want to make a comment on topic? Otherwise, you're being extremely rude. You don't want that perception, do you?

wbgonne - "Sort of like... (Below threshold)
marc:

wbgonne - "Sort of like Palin-McCain pulling a Clinton and trying to Starr-ize the Troopergate investigation in Alaska."

Do tell.

With credible links of course.

I think it was a bad ide... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

I think it was a bad idea.

You may be right. I don't know. Nobody does. THAT is the problem. This is bad stuff. Congress is all over the place criticizing but at least some of that is ego. On the other hand, not being privy to the financial specifics -- I assume they were terrifying -- it is frankly difficult to give an informed opinion. We don't generally nationalize businesses in the United States. That's more . . . Venezuela. The Fed says it was necessary. Who knows? I sure don't LIKE it.

wbgonne - "We don't gen... (Below threshold)
marc:

wbgonne - "We don't generally nationalize businesses in the United States."

Well then, can we assume you were against HillaryCare and Obama's boondoggle of the same nature?

I agree with comment number... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

I agree with comment number three, except "present" can default to a "no". He could be still stuck in Illinois political mode:

In Illinois, political experts say voting present is a relatively common way for lawmakers to express disapproval of a measure. It can at times help avoid running the risks of voting no, they add.

"If you are worried about your next election, the present vote gives you political cover," said Kent D. Redfield, a professor of political studies at the University of Illinois at Springfield. "This is an option that does not exist in every state and reflects Illinois political culture."

"Barack Obama votes "Presen... (Below threshold)
SpideyTerry:

"Barack Obama votes "Present" on the AIG bailout"

Judgment to lead. *snicker*

"Barack Obama votes "Presen... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

"Barack Obama votes "Present" on the AIG bailout"

Brocko is a real profile in courage, he is.

HEADLESS CHICKEN STRATEGY:<... (Below threshold)
GET REAL:

HEADLESS CHICKEN STRATEGY:
_ Whaaat? I have 7 houses? Well that alone proves the fundamentals of the economy are strong!
_ Whaaat? Many Americans can't even afford 1 house?? The fundamentals of the economy are not sound! (moving forward)
_We need a commission! (do nothing bs.)
_Fire the Chairman! (catchy sound bite fun!)
_Spain? I'm not committed to speaking to that Latin American country! (what the ... ???)
_Mmm..., maybe we can fire Bernanke & Paulson by the end of the week! By then, I'll need another sound bite! (No, he didn't say this last bit but now that he is officially bonkers, I wouldn't bet against it.)
_"Obama voted "present"?! Well, I oughta, I oughta ....." (OUTRAGE BOMB being loaded into BS MACHINE)

MEANWHILE....
Senator Chris Dodd: I have now spoken to Bernanke & Paulson and would like to say they are doing an admirable job considering how they were thrown into this QUAGMIRE, on the ground running. We need to not interfere and give them a chance.
OBAMA: This mess is a direct result of the deregulation that has taken place in Washington under McBush's watch. As Bernanke, Paulson, and now congress are working through this, they should help Main Street as well as Wall Street. I will not politicize Bernanke & Paulson's process by inserting myself and my views as a distraction. In order to not be accused of undermining their efforts, I will wait until they come up with their plan before I present mine.

If Americans can't see a "Present" vote is a vote to stay out of the way, then America has become a nation of morons and it's no wonder America is where it is. Keep buying into the "Headless Chicken Strategy". Yeah, that's worked,-- NOT!

If Americans can't... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
If Americans can't see a "Present" vote is a vote to stay out of the way,

Obama is now campaigning to stay out of the way?! Jeez, man. Lower the dose! The Illinois voting culture has already been explained in a link in the comments.

On the other hand, you may just be on to something. With Obama's recent admittance that he has sent out more negative ads than McCain and his habitual "stay out of the way" voting instead of yea or nay, he may just be bowing out gracefully by sinking his own battleship. After all, he said in 2004 that he wasn't experienced enough for the job, and the teleprompter fiascoes with the inconsistent stances would certainly give him a clue he has a lot to learn. Thanks for the added insight! :)




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