Matthew Sheffield has posted video of Obama's "I've got a bracelet too" line from the debate last night and is tracking which media outlets have reported that exchange between McCain and Obama.
More from: Michelle Malkin, A.J. Strata.
Update: Bruce Kesler sent me a link to this excellent column by Charles Hurt which goes into the significance of the bracelets.
For Obama, the war going badly had been a great political boon. His early opposition to it had gotten him noticed.And his unwavering opposition is why he beat Hillary Clinton in the primary.
John McCain, who knows something about military defeat, made a different decision. It was an unpopular one - and it came during the darkest days of his campaign.
Still, McCain lashed himself to the sinking ship that was the war in Iraq and voted for the surge.
He'd rather win a war and lose and election than lose a war, McCain said more times than we can remember.
Today, of course, Iraq is a much different place. It is far more peaceful than even the biggest war proponents dare imagine just a year ago. And Obama, after months of hemming and hawing, finally acknowledged the unavoidable: that the surge succeeded beyond his wildest imagination.
Yet, amazingly, he also says he still wouldn't have supported the surge.
One of last night's most telling moments came when McCain revealed a wristband that had belonged to a soldier killed in Iraq given to him by the soldier's mother. Do everything in your power, the mother told McCain, to make sure "my son's death was not in vain."
"I've got a bracelet, too," Obama said - given to him by the mother of a dead soldier who asked Obama to "make sure that another mother's not going through what I'm going through."
Here lies the difference between these two men:
Obama will accept defeat if continuing on hurts too much. For McCain, any mission where defeat is an option is a mission not worth fighting in the first place.
Update II: Bookworm says what I felt, but puts it into words better than I ever could.
Obama, had he wanted to, could have scored some substantive points by immediately saying that we don't honor one man's death by creating more dead, or some such argument. That seemed to be where he was heading, but I tuned out because I was so overwhelmed by his actual response: "I've got a bracelet too."Follow the link to find out what Bookworm would have done if she were Hillary.What is this? Kindergarten? Could anything show more clearly what a selfish, self-centered, shallow man Obama is. McCain is talking about real people, and he's talking about how the beliefs he shares with those real people drive him to his understanding that, both for the good of the nation and for the honor of her troops, America must leave Iraq as a strong, viable nation. It breaks faith with both America and her troops to slink away as Obama so wants to do. This is a deep substantive argument. The bracelet wasn't the central point. It was simply a human-interest lead-in to that point.
And what does Obama say? "I've got a bracelet too." What that means, translated is,
"I can't think of an original argument, I don't have a deep emotional story, I don't have sound policy justifications for abandoning Iraq now that we're trembling on the verge of actual and complete success but, 'Nyah, nyah, nyah-nyah-nyah -- I've got a bracelet too.'" The attitude and ignorance behind the statement was appalling.If this was just one example, it would be bad enough, but we've seen this before. When Hillary, the darling of huge chunks of American women, self-deprecatingly (and rather charmingly) acknowledges that she grates on some people, Obama snaps back with the condescending "You're likable enough."




Comments (9)
Talking about mothers, I do... (Below threshold)1. Posted by twolaneflash | September 27, 2008 10:10 AM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Talking about mothers, I don't think Obama wants to stand his along McCain's for comparison. He would come out as well as he did with his first grade-like "I've got one, too!" line. On the one hand, you have a mother who believes her son was engaged in a righteous effort when his life was taken, and that his just mission should be completed. On the other, a mother who believes her son lived his last moments doing evil and gave his life to it. Bad mothers hold little value for their child's life, whether dumping them on grandparents, asking them to be murdered in late-term abortions, or demonizing the sacrifice for freedom made by their child. That Obama would attract a bad mother surprises not at all. Which mother would you like remembering you?
1. Posted by twolaneflash | September 27, 2008 10:10 AM |
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Posted on September 27, 2008 10:10
2. Posted by sierra | September 27, 2008 10:41 AM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
I would think that part of being prepped for debate is having someone beat you on the head with a lead pipe every time you use the words "me, too."
2. Posted by sierra | September 27, 2008 10:41 AM |
Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 27, 2008 10:41
3. Posted by ExSubNuke | September 27, 2008 11:20 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
If only it were so, Sierra. If only it were so.
3. Posted by ExSubNuke | September 27, 2008 11:20 AM |
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Posted on September 27, 2008 11:20
4. Posted by rodney dill | September 27, 2008 11:29 AM | Score: 3 (7 votes cast)
...and he's saving his secret decoder ring for the next debate.
4. Posted by rodney dill | September 27, 2008 11:29 AM |
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Posted on September 27, 2008 11:29
5. Posted by Liberalnitemare | September 27, 2008 11:40 AM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
It was fairly obvious that Obabma didnt even know the name that was on his bracelet.
5. Posted by Liberalnitemare | September 27, 2008 11:40 AM |
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Posted on September 27, 2008 11:40
6. Posted by Mike in NYC | September 27, 2008 3:17 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Iraq is more peaceful, but largely because of an extremely bloody segregation along religious lines. It's also now an ally of Iran, in case you hadn't noticed.
The tactical tides of this war have changed, as they inevitably do, but the strategic winner here is clearly Iran. They no longer have their deadliest enemy to deal with. So from the Iranians' point of view, that mother's son didn't die in vain. His sacrifice benefited them immensely.
BTW, you should thank the Iranians for reining in al-Sadr and solidifying Maliki's position. They did this out of pure self-interest, sure, but it did give you patriotards something to be happy about. For the time being, that is.
6. Posted by Mike in NYC | September 27, 2008 3:17 PM |
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Posted on September 27, 2008 15:17
7. Posted by Silus | September 27, 2008 5:55 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
I think the fundamental point is that no one gives a damn whether or not McCain or Obama has a bracelet. And its pretty funny how you guys think this is a significant point.
7. Posted by Silus | September 27, 2008 5:55 PM |
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Posted on September 27, 2008 17:55
8. Posted by TSDukes | September 28, 2008 5:39 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Senator Obama's reply to one of Senator McCain's contrived elementary, folksy, worn-out tales deserves Senator Obama's "kindergarten" retort. Obama has as many bracelets as McCain has -read none. Obama certainly could have used Casey Shennan, the son of Cindy Shennan, her views are clear enough on the war.
8. Posted by TSDukes | September 28, 2008 5:39 PM |
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Posted on September 28, 2008 17:39
9. Posted by scant | September 28, 2008 9:11 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Twolaneflashs' comment is stupid. Not everybody thing that the iraq war is righteous. Obama's point was somebody's kid died and they do not want any body else kid to die for an unjust war.
9. Posted by scant | September 28, 2008 9:11 PM |
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Posted on September 28, 2008 21:11