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Vice Presidential Debate Open Thread

Gov. Sarah Palin and Sen. Joe Biden square off tonight in the only Vice Presidential debate. This is your spot to comment on the debate - as it happens or after the fact...


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Shaky start,but she seems t... (Below threshold)
Rich:

Shaky start,but she seems to be warming up to it. How come she gets cut off on time,but Biden goes on after he acknowledges he is out?

I think Sarah Palin is doin... (Below threshold)

I think Sarah Palin is doing a fine job. She seems to be able to be herself and seems comfortable. I think she is coming across as intelligent and prepared. She also does not seem to be afraid to take on Biden and Obama. Go Sarah!

I think she's doing pretty ... (Below threshold)
BPG:

I think she's doing pretty good so far...Biden is doing well too. Gov. Palin is sticking to her strengths. So far my favorite line from her was about how she might not answer the questions the way Sen. Biden or Gwen Ifill want her to.

Palin is doing great. Remem... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Palin is doing great. Remember you lefties how you said she would "self destruct." Not happening. And also, Biden looks old and tired next to Palin. Another plus. So far, great. ww

I noticed that, too. I lik... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

I noticed that, too. I like the way they are both looking directly at the camera and acknowledging each other at the same time.

Biden started out too lack a daze by laughing at the first question. Palin was a little nervous at first. Palin is really gung ho. I like her.

I like her realistic approach to energy and climate change. She understands the difference between that and the bogus global warming crap.

Biden is connecting global ... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Biden is connecting global warming with jobs and China. Something is rotten in dem town.

Haha! Biden screws up, the... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Haha! Biden screws up, the moderator corrects him, and he says, "Just look at my record!" heh

OH BOY! Biden just said bot... (Below threshold)
Candy:

OH BOY! Biden just said both he and Obama are against gay marriage...is this news to Obama?

The gloves are off... (Below threshold)
epador:

The gloves are off

Thank God the gloves are of... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

Thank God the gloves are off. Palin is startin' to loosen up and give it to him with both barrels... and doing it well.

What the hell is up with Bi... (Below threshold)
JohnS:

What the hell is up with Biden's eyes? He go to Burt Reynold's doctor?

Palin scored bigtime with h... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Palin scored bigtime with her comment on Obama meeting with our enemies personally without preconditons. She scored big time. ww

I would like to say that I ... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

I would like to say that I also like the way they acknowledge respect for each other and when they agree on something.

JohnS - I heard from a reli... (Below threshold)
Candy:

JohnS - I heard from a reliable source that Biden went to his plastic surgeon and ordered "The Kenny Rogers".

I loved it when Palin told ... (Below threshold)
Candy:

I loved it when Palin told Biden how much she appreciated it when Biden attacked Obama for not wanting to fund the troops.

Joey is starting to get ang... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Joey is starting to get angry. Oh boy! Here it comes. The gaffe of the night. ww

WW - I think either his med... (Below threshold)
Candy:

WW - I think either his meds wore off or he's just not used to being up this late.

Well, more like a cat fight... (Below threshold)
epador:

Well, more like a cat fight than a knock down drag out. MEOW!

She can barely keep from la... (Below threshold)
epador:

She can barely keep from laughing at Biden. LOL

He always refers to himself... (Below threshold)
Candy:

He always refers to himself as "Joe Biden". Reminds me of Jimmy on Seinfeld.

Bosniacs!... (Below threshold)
epador:

Bosniacs!

Biden BS meter just pegged.... (Below threshold)
epador:

Biden BS meter just pegged.

OMG! I was going to ask if ... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

OMG! I was going to ask if he actually called them Bosniacs!

Wow, for a moment I thought... (Below threshold)
JohnS:

Wow, for a moment I thought she was saying 'god forbid Obama/Biden get elected.' Heh.

Sarah is doing just fine...... (Below threshold)
Paul Duffau:

Sarah is doing just fine....

Joe is trying to bully her and it isn't working.

(deep voice) "GOD FORBID Ba... (Below threshold)
Candy:

(deep voice) "GOD FORBID Barrack should die and I should take over this country....GOD FORBID"

Joe needs to spend more tim... (Below threshold)
epador:

Joe needs to spend more time at Home Depot.

I seriously thought it was ... (Below threshold)
Candy:

I seriously thought it was Bosnians. They refer to us up here as Maniacs, but it's not in a kind way. You don't want to know what we call the folks from Massachusetts.

Oh Boy, Obama needs Joe fo... (Below threshold)
epador:

Oh Boy, Obama needs Joe for advice on all issues.

I like the tired sound in B... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

I like the tired sound in Biden's voice: "We on my side know what's going on, so can I go home and get a glass of warm milk?"

Then Palin's retaliation of "Say it ain't so, Joe! There you go again!" when Biden uses Bush to debate about the future. Love it.

You caught that too, epador... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

You caught that too, epador?

Not that it'll probably matter, but it's a STARTLING admission... (not really).

Bosniacs are Bosnian Muslim... (Below threshold)
Denise:

Bosniacs are Bosnian Muslims. don't know if Biden knew that tho.

The question of what your r... (Below threshold)
Paul Duffau:

The question of what your role as a VP would be is huge - Joe talks about offerring advice, Sarah talks about what she will do.

That's huge.

Biden is getting cranky.

Cheney Bashing. Convention... (Below threshold)
epador:

Cheney Bashing. Conventional Wisdom? How about conventional attacks?

Are we to believe that Bide... (Below threshold)
Candy:

Are we to believe that Biden does his own handyman tasks, thus all the Home Depot shopping trips?

Is he the guy who glued his own ass to the HD toilet seat?

Yeah. Didn't think I'd be ... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

Yeah. Didn't think I'd be lectured on how the Constitution works. Not that I really needed it. Mr. Votta did a good job teachin me.

And why is he bashin' Cheney? He's not debating/running against Cheney?

So now I know: Biden absolu... (Below threshold)
BP:

So now I know: Biden absolutely says that Global Warming is man-made. Glad he cleared that up for me. Oh,,, and when did Barack talk about Fannie and Freddie two years ago? And that reaching across the aisle to Lugar? That was a small amendment to a bill that talked to conventional weapons.

And now Joe is interrupting... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

And now Joe is interrupting Palin?!?! He's REALLY cranky right now.

I'm getting cranky too.... (Below threshold)
Candy:

I'm getting cranky too.

"Kitchen table Joe" is tryi... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

"Kitchen table Joe" is tryin' to fight for the little people and saying McCain is not a maverick. Well, if he is going to be giving Obama advice on "man-made" global warming, his views aren't going to mean an awful lot to the working man in this country.

"How we gunna heat the ca..... (Below threshold)
Candy:

"How we gunna heat the ca...heat the house this winter?"

Bosniacs are Bosni... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
Bosniacs are Bosnian Muslims.

Thank you, Denise. I didn't know that. I wonder if that was the best name for him to use.

OooooooooooSarahcc... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

Ooooooooooo

Sarahccuda sends a parting shot across the bow of the MSM.

Nice touch.

A strong right upper cut to... (Below threshold)
epador:

A strong right upper cut to the MSM. OUCH!

Hey.... waidaminute.<... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

Hey.... waidaminute.

I seem to recall the first question went to Joe.

Final word goes to Joe too?


Accident or subtle MSM support? You decide.

I don't think you all reali... (Below threshold)
Candy:

I don't think you all realize the stress we New Englanders are under right now, trying to keep up with the Sox one night and politics the next.

Nice to see the families hu... (Below threshold)
epador:

Nice to see the families hugging. Doubt McCain and Obama families could manage that.

I think it was clear here t... (Below threshold)
Dave W:

I think it was clear here that Sarah can hold her own with these blowhard senate veterans. She came out looking a little nervous, but hit her points and quickly eased into it. She had no problem sticking it to Biden/Obama. My only issues were the global warming nonsense and some of the maverick talk. I know she needs to support mccain and talk him up, but i think she spends a little bit too much time doing that. Other than that, she was fantastic. It seemed like Biden was making some fairly outrageous claims, like something about spain or whatever he was talking about... Bottom line, Biden held his discipline, no gaffes, but came off like a typical senate tool.

Brit Hume had a nice statem... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Brit Hume had a nice statement at the end. The basic translation was, "Joe was good, we'll have to double check some of his answers to make sure he wasn't bullshitting again".

"Champ"."Champ" ha... (Below threshold)
Candy:

"Champ".

"Champ" has a weird forehead.

Somebody take that baby awa... (Below threshold)
Candy:

Somebody take that baby away from the kid!

Much better debate than las... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Much better debate than last week. Biden sounded so sad with his closing statement, wonder what that was about? Maybe he was thinking about how Palin pointed out his and Obama's diagreements, or how hard it would be to keep track of Obama like a daddy. They shook hands, smiled at each other and then the families came out to talk and mingle.

Biden was OWNED!... (Below threshold)
GianiD:

Biden was OWNED!

Heard earlier this evening ... (Below threshold)
Grace:

Heard earlier this evening that McCain was pulling his campaign out of Michigan. After tonight, I hope he scraps that plan. It was a state in play earlier, it may be again after tonight. She talked the midwestern talk.

Yes, puleeeease - someone "... (Below threshold)
RIGHTfromWrong:

Yes, puleeeease - someone "advise" Go. Pailin the RISK of having her younger daughter hold the baby on national network TV.
I CANNOT agree with you more. That little girl is somewhere, somehow gonna drop that baby....and well, after that = ELECTION Over. How fast can you say President NO-Bama!

I can't give an objective o... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

I can't give an objective opinion, of course, so all I'll say is I'm very pleased again tonite.

"President Palin" has a nic... (Below threshold)

"President Palin" has a nice ring to it.

Seriously, what a tremendous victory tonight. When people compare the real Sarah Palin we saw tonight to the caricature presented by the liberal MSM's biased filtering, they will realize how they are being manipulated. (I hope!) You could tell Joe Blow couldn't wait for the night to be over.

A great night for America.

Palin = Harry Callahan... (Below threshold)
Baron Von Ottomatic:

Palin = Harry Callahan

Biden = Some punk who felt lucky

Sarah just ate Bid... (Below threshold)
irongrampa:


Sarah just ate Biden's lunch, breakfast,dinner, and the snacks in between.

I don't care what the sp... (Below threshold)
irongrampa:

I don't care what the spin is, Palin scored a clear knockout tonight.

Biden was terrific: thought... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

Biden was terrific: thoughtful, knowledgeable, avuncular, engaging. He could not have been better. I think he'll be a terrific VP.

Palin memorized 30 short speeches (or maybe they were implanted in her brain) and then presented them, sometimes queasily-folksy, other times like somebody who had just memorized the Gettysburg address and was praying that she didn't slip into the Pledge of Allegiance by mistake; sometimes when the speeches were appropriate, sometimes when they were complete non sequiturs. Palin was going through her speeches, one by one, gosh darnit, and the Mainstream Media could just try to stop her.

Gwen Ifill, unfortunately, was awful. She could have e-mailed her questions for all the interactivity and spontaneity she brought to the debate; I think there was only a single moment when she actually responded to one of Palin's inane remarks. I don't think that this will hurt Obama in any way, but it is yet another reminder that a lousy press corps does serious damage to the nation. Too bad Katie Couric didn't moderate. She recognized and called Palin on her BS. I think Palin would have folded under even moderate pressure, but she got none and muddled through.

But really, folks: The White House?

Yes, The White House. wbgon... (Below threshold)

Yes, The White House. wbgonne you'd better get used to it.

Yeah, she respectfully kick... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Yeah, she respectfully kicked Biden's avuncular butt to the moon. She also successfully revealed what a crutch he would be to Obama, as well as the dissent between them. Remember back when the dems were debating and Biden said America would be better off with McCain? Deep down he still believe that.

*believes that.... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

*believes that.

Yes, The White House. wb... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

Yes, The White House. wbgonne you'd better get used to it.

Ho! Ho! Ho!

Ho! Ho! Ho! Ho!

McCain loses by 100 EVs. He's already done in Michigan and Iowa. Pennsylvania's next. Then Missouri, Ohio, and Florida. Hell, Obama's probably going to take Virginia, Colorado, and N. Carolina. Landslide.

Seriously though: Don't you think Palin is a numbskull? You can admit it: I won't tell anybody.

Ho! Ho! Ho!

Wow - she can walk and chew... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Wow - she can walk and chew gum at the same time. The ideal Republican choice for a VP.

Oh I also should give her credit - she can memorize talking points with the best of them. I wonder if that's what she does with the First Dudester 6 Packer Guy when they are all snugly?

Can you imagine (now I know you righties could care less but serious thinking people do care) what the hell the rest of the world thinks when this woman is the best 1 political party can come up with?

wbgonne~I get a fe... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

wbgonne~

I get a feeling your leftest "buddies" don't like you very much, either, so I'll just leave it at that. You know she did well. You just hate her for your own personal reasons that don't even matter in this election.

Had to wait for the talking... (Below threshold)

Had to wait for the talking point email, JFO and wbgonne?

JFO~I won... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

JFO~

I wonder if that's what she does with the First Dudester 6 Packer Guy when they are all snugly?

The fact that you can't even make one factual comment about the debate shows how little you really know about politics. The biggest problem with the left is they spend most of the time gawking and laughing at the other side without any real discussion. C'mon, let's see that for a change, rather than bullshit speak.

JLawson~They had t... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

JLawson~

They had to get drunk first while waiting for the e-mail. And look, they didn't even gain any insight from that. The good news for me is that I have democrat friends that really are coherent and do their party justice with sound discussion.

I get a feeling your leftes... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

I get a feeling your leftest "buddies" don't like you very much, either, so I'll just leave it at that. You know she did well. You just hate her for your own personal reasons that don't even matter in this election.

Paranoid ramblings. Not a good sign.

"Paranoid ramblings. Not a ... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

"Paranoid ramblings. Not a good sign."

Parroting again without a real defense means I struck a nerve, bigtime. You call it what you want.

Talking points? About Palin... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

Talking points? About Palin? Please. The woman is a twit. Anyone with a brain can see that. God help us all should she somehow become president.

Had to wait for... (Below threshold)
Had to wait for the talking point email, JFO and wbgonne?

They waited? Those talking points of theirs look like they were faxed around this morning.

wbgonne:If you can... (Below threshold)
maggie:

wbgonne:

If you can't disagree with some sense
of civility, you're going to make my short
list.
Keep it up.

Parroting again without ... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

Parroting again without a real defense means I struck a nerve, bigtime.

Is THAT what it means? Gotcha, by golly.

Talking points? Ab... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
Talking points? About Palin? Please. The woman is a twit. Anyone with a brain can see that. God help us all should she somehow become president.

Yes, but anyone with a brain would also be able to say exactly why he felt that way, or admit she's pretty damned smart for a rookie. You got nothin' but your "ho ho ho's", twinkie.

Is THAT what it me... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
Is THAT what it means? Gotcha, by golly.

It also means you are a drone without the creative sense to come up with your own shtick.

wbgonne,you were w... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

wbgonne,

you were wanting to bet earlier on, right (something of substance)?

Wanna still bet? How about $500? Yeah, and that's with all the polls favoring you (meaning it doesn't take much courage on your part). I'm serious. Oh, I guess you have to go to sleep now.

Evidently, this Maggie pers... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

Evidently, this Maggie person has banned me from this thread. There seems to be a lot of this Bill O'Reilly-Sean Hannity bullying around here. Frankly, I am crushed. Well, so much for free speech. Hey, if you want a closed community, why don't you just limit the site to members only? That's one way to hear only what you want to hear and only in the way you want to hear it.

Night, night.

obgonne,I'm sorry ... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

obgonne,

I'm sorry that I made you leave the thread. I'm sorry that I wasn't sensitive to the fact that welfare checks are not what it used to be under Clinton. $500 was I guess too much. $100 would be ok, or we could do $50 (you can pay in food stamps).

Well Biden proves you would... (Below threshold)
Thomas Jackson:

Well Biden proves you wouldn't buy a used car from Team Obama while Palin demonstrates why'd you trust her.

Obama is toast. I can't wait for the dhimmies to bury him the second week in November. I wonder whether they'll attribute his landslide defeat to his elitisam, arrogance, or ignorance.

wbgonne:Dude, what... (Below threshold)
Paul Duffau:

wbgonne:

Dude, what ban - you're still here. Twit! The banning gets done at Blue.

Geez.

That's one way to ... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
That's one way to hear only what you want to hear and only in the way you want to hear it.

I have seen your comments on other blogs, wbgonne, and they are much more sane and civil. You have used this blog in particular as a reckless venting zone where you mimic people and have little else to say. Your idea of free speech on this blog is usually childish insults. You shouldn't miss it here too much with so many "friends" elsewhere that agree with everything you say.

Biden did his usual fantast... (Below threshold)
Larry:

Biden did his usual fantastic job, if somewhat suspect on some of the facts. He is an experienced debater in the world's greatest deliberative body, the Senate. And Joe is one of the best at what he does. With the exception of playing fast and loose with some of the facts, which only a few undecideds will even care about, Joe was Joe.

What I did notice is that he started imitating Palin. The Home Depot crack was priceless and maybe even true. And a clear attempt to imitate Palin.

The reason he did it is because Joe is good at what he does and he knew he was in trouble.

His body language when he showed up was one of confidence. He thought he was in charge. And why not, Palin didn't exactly hit home runs with either Gibson or Cranky. She had not come up to speed on how it is done - see the Tony Snow link on another thread.

Palin is a fast learner. In other words, very, very bright.

And for wbgonne (please) nobody can memorize a bunch of talking points in the time she had; she knew her stuff and when she didn't, she played the game the way it is supposed to be played and Ifill let her; she changed the subject to something she wanted to say that was on topic.

Simply put, Biden was outclassed and he knew it. You could tell by his responses and body language as time passed. Palin is not only smart, she is a world class communicator. As Dick Morris said, she is another Reagan.

And she proved it tonight.

wbgonne - nice strawman. y... (Below threshold)
Larry:

wbgonne - nice strawman. you are still here. Go disagree with Lee Ward and see how long you last.

Palin thinks that she lost ... (Below threshold)
louskimmi:

Palin thinks that she lost the VP debate.
Watch this interview here: http://tubedirects.net/index.php?q=Palin-Fox-interview

"Go disagree with Lee Ward ... (Below threshold)
Denise:

"Go disagree with Lee Ward and see how long you last."

He can't stand anyone to disagree with him. And if you post facts disproving what he says? POOF you're gone.

We need a thread here at Wizbang so we can answer his nonsense.

Poor pleasebgone, er, wbgon... (Below threshold)

Poor pleasebgone, er, wbgone. He sounds so sad.

Believe me, wbgone is still... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Believe me, wbgone is still here. He and his leftest buddies got their asses handed to them by Palin. Now they are coming out with the sexist invective. Pitiful. JFO and wbgone have to be teenaged brothers. ww

Dude, what ban - you're ... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

Dude, what ban - you're still here. Twit! The banning gets done at Blue.

Several of my comments, including my response to the bet proposal, were deleted. Censorship and bullying. Classy.

I have seen your comments on other blogs, wbgonne, and they are much more sane and civil. You have used this blog in particular as a reckless venting zone where you mimic people and have little else to say. Your idea of free speech on this blog is usually childish insults. You shouldn't miss it here too much with so many "friends" elsewhere that agree with everything you say.

That's a bit stalkerish.

As to the "merits" of your remark, I respond as appropriate. When somebody says something idiotic -- which unfortunately happens often here (and in the McBush campaign) -- I say so. Free speech. Get used to it. It's coming back.


Free speech. Get ... (Below threshold)
Free speech. Get used to it. It's coming back.
Rush is right, these people really do think they are in the chains of bondage. (Uh oh, I think I just made a racial slur. Wait, there's someone at the door... "Who is it?" "Open ze door Heir Ducharme, SCHNELL!") Apparently obamas' "Welcome Wagon" is patrolling my neighborhood in advance of the election. If anyone wants to know, I'll be shooshing down a hill in Switzerland...unless the "truth squaders" outside my door have a stronger ram than I think. Well, into the tunnel with me. Bye now.
That's a bit stalk... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
That's a bit stalkerish.

You project yourself right away. Ha! You wish you were that interesting. My purpose in doing so was actually to see if you were such a tool on every blog. To my surprise, your facade of civility is well-played elsewhere. BTW, I googled your comments about a week ago, that included your opinion that Sarah Palin be demolished. That was the last time, because your being mentally erratic is quite evident.

Censorship and bullying.

You are the bully with your parroting nonsense. I understand perfectly why Maggie is annoyed with you.

Rush is right<... (Below threshold)
wbgonne:

Rush is right

Always. So is O'Reilly. And Hannity, too. Brilliant people, all of them. And nice, too. Your admiration is well-directed.

obgonne,vs.? "Leg... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

obgonne,

vs.? "Leg" Matthews, Olbermann, "narc" Randi Rhodes -- Wow, you're someone who is well-suited to who the good journalists are.

wbgonne:... (Below threshold)
maggie:

wbgonne:

Several of my comments, including my response to the bet proposal, were deleted. Censorship and bullying. Classy.

Your comments were not deleted, just
unpublished. Keep it up smart boy.

Hey, it's obviously '... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Hey, it's obviously 'progressive' to do so, wbgonne - if it's okay for the Blue, why should you mind it here?

I'm going to a do little mo... (Below threshold)
Cockroach:

I'm going to a do little more to clear up the confussion that many right wing pundits and shock jocks created over the word "Bosniak".

It's spelled Bosniak not Bosniac.

The full definition, according to American Heritage is:

Bos·ni·ak (bŏz'nē-āk') Pronunciation Key n. 1. A member of a people descended from Slavs from Bosnia who converted to Islam during the period of Ottoman rule.

2. An inhabitant of Bosnia without regard to religious identity, especially prior to the mid-19th century.

Moral of the day:

Right wing pundits get it wrong and do not even do basic fact checking - like using a dictionary!




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