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Biden's Nostradamus Powers: Hizballah and Hamas

One of my 'What? He did not just say that...' moments (which usually makes my wife cringe, but she understood my explanation) was when Biden said the following on Hamas and Hizballah:

Here's what the president said when we said no. He insisted on elections on the West Bank, when I said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, "Big mistake. Hamas will win. You'll legitimize them." What happened? Hamas won.

When we kicked -- along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, "Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don't know -- if you don't, Hezbollah will control it."

Now what's happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the government in the country immediately to the north of Israel.

For those who don't know my writings over the past few years, Hamas and Hizballah have been a large part of my focus, particularly during the Palestinian elections of January 2006 and the Israeli-Hizballah war that summer. The above made my jaw drop. I recall zero position of note by either Democrat candidate regarding elections among the Palestinians.

But on the Hizballah reference, which is pure fantasy and wisdom projection borne of false descriptions to begin with, I'll leave that to an excellent note fired to Kathryn Lopez that lacks no such authority of knowledge.

Joe Biden threw out a lot of bunk on foreign policy tonight, too bad Gov Palin didn't have the foreign policy wonkishness to call him on it. Most ridiculous and downright strange was his contention that the Bush administration let Hezbollah into Lebanon, and then when "we threw them out" - whatever that means, he and Obama said NATO should go in but nobody took them up on it and now Hezbollah was all over Lebanon and that's a problem. What?

Well, Hezbollah's been there since the early 1980's of course, blossoming throughout the 1990's to become now over a third of the population of Lebanon with 2 cabinet members, a host of parliamentarians, and schools, clinics, and basically an entirely separate governance infrastructure in all of southern Lebanon and elsewhere. I suppose the throwing out of Hezbollah was the dismal and failed Israeli campaign of 2006 which dislodged nothing? Or was it Israeli's occupation of Southern Lebanon from 1982 - 1999? Don't remember an Obama position on NATO replacing Israeli occupation then. As for NATO going in after the 2006 debacle, well, I'm the one who rounded up 8,000 French and Italians and a few thousand other Euros to go into Southern Lebanon along with an assortment of others in August 2006 and while working that issue for about 40 straight days I don't remember a peep from Biden or Obama about NATO - which wouldn't be budged despite our intense pressure in Mons. So, we went straight to Rome and Paris. Que sera, sera.

That'll leave a mark. As it should.


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Comments (6)

The man spewed so many lies... (Below threshold)

The man spewed so many lies ON NATIONAL TV and nobody, NOBODY, but us here on the alternative media knows it. I think they call that a draw.

Sad thing is though, even if she could've slapped him down, it seems that the muzzle is in place when it comes to "negative attacks" on our friends, the enemies of truth and justice, that are the democrat standard bearer and his running mate.

nutshell: America does not and WILL NOT know what really happened re; the above issue or any other that Biden lied about. (Now we "know" that obambi NEVER agreed to meet with the worlds thugs sans ANY preconditions.) Oh my guts! I think I'm 'bout to chunder.

Why not do a fact check bef... (Below threshold)
Isak Baruch:

Why not do a fact check before posting misinformation in the guise of partisan "negative attacks"?
Both sides made assertions that were, at best, proven to be off the mark but not out right lies.

Biden was talking too fast ... (Below threshold)
Quaker in a Basement:

Biden was talking too fast here and balled a couple of different things together--the West Bank elections and the 2005/2006 events in Lebanon.

On Hezbollah and Lebanon, he's clearly talking about the Cedar Revolution of 2005 in which Lebanon forced Syria to withdraw its troops from Lebanese territory. That was, in fact, accomplished with support from the U.S. and France.

So ding him, if you like, for equating Syria with Hezbollah, but not for imagining things that never happened.

And the low life could not ... (Below threshold)
GM Cassel AMH1(AW) USN RET:

And the low life could not even name the country to the North of Israel.

Quaker, ... (Below threshold)
NS:

Quaker,
Nice Try. We now have to INTERPRET what Joe Biden Actually MEANT TO SAY !! Wow !!

"When we kicked -- along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, "Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don't know -- if you don't, Hezbollah will control it."

Now what's happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the government in the country immediately to the north of Israel"

When was the last time NATO (huh?) was involved in the Middle East? And when exactly was Hezbollah "kicked out" of Lebanon ? It has NEVER left - what "vaccuum" is he talking about? Where exactly where these NATO troops to be stationed? The same NATO which wouldnt support the Iraqi invasion will suddenly come to Lebanon is it ? WHAT CRAP !

And when exactly did Obama call for NATO troops in Lebanon ? This is the guy who said that HAmas and Hezbollah have legitimate claims even if their methods were unsavory !
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/262645.php

This is the same guy who thinks that it was a strategic mistake for US forces to have entered Iraq - we are now supposed to believe that he wants NATO to be in Lebanon, to "fill a vaccum" ? What HORSESHIT !

You think that people are not watching this BS ? Please give me a fricking BREAK !

We now have to INTERPRE... (Below threshold)
Quaker in a Basement:

We now have to INTERPRET what Joe Biden Actually MEANT TO SAY !! Wow !!

No, you don't need to interpret it. You just have to remember ancient history from way, way back in the year 2005.

The US and France were active in supporting the Cedar Revolution which resulted in Syria pulling its security forces from Lebanon. There was discussion at the time about whether NATO should send in troops.

Did Biden or Obama speak up about it? Beats me. Is it a blunder to conflate Syrian troops with Hezbollah? Maybe so. If Biden goofed on any of that, he deserves to be called out on it, but let's not pretend he's hallucinating.




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