Isn't Murtha calling himself a racist here? I'll buy that.

I'll trust nothing out of that stupid Murtha-furka's mouth...

What a stupid puke. Wonder if the Marine who'd suing him for libel will be called a racist, too?

So... is this getting a lot of air time in Western PA?

I hope?

So you respond to whining with more whining? Also thats a lot of reading between the lines. He never accused Military veterans of not like Obama because of racism, just said that the area had a history of problem. You really want to deny it?

They vote Obama cuz he gives them what they want. They don't vote for them doesn't make them not racist. Being racist is what makes you racist. At least that's what he wrote it looks.

Here is a video that is very relevant to the topic of racism in swing states. Not PA, but OH here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

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You never learn do you.

As my children used to say:

"Twinkle, twinkle little star,
What you say is what you are!"

Ergo,John Murtha ia cold-blooded killer of innocent civilians and a racist.

Perhaps the good citizens of PA will do the nation a huge favor and un-elect John Murtha.

This is one old white guy who is tired of being called racist. I hope there are enough of me in America to send Obama back to the beach.

JFO, your immaturity has always been on show, but this time you really showed what a complete ass looks like. I am not even going to bother about your comment. Is there somewhere else you can play and annoy people? Shoo! ww

All those quotes are from the video, the link of which I posted above. Take a look and see for yourself. Here it is again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

This was not originally from Daily Kos. It was from... GASP. AL JAZEERA!!!! IT ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE BEEN FABRICATED BY ARAB TERRORISTS HOPING TO ELECT OBAMA AND THEREBY DESTROY OUR COUNTRY!!! Because the good lord knows that anything Arab is evil.

Actually if you think about it. There's no way something like this could be staged. This video is a real reflection of a certain cross section of the population that will vote McCain/Palin. These are the same people who can be seen cheering Palin on in the same video. The only reasonable thing to do is to accept that they are idiots and try to distance youself from them, instead of trying to suggest that it's staged.

Welcome to Obamanation: all dissent is racist.

So, if I live in PA and vote McCain, I must be a racist...

The words "civil war" are coming closer and closer into focus for me...

ww

How could you possible comment on those quotes? It'd be a minefield in which you'd explode on your first step in. Keep on rooting for the guys from Guantanamo ww

Jeez. It's a good thing lefties keep reminding me that my vote for McCain is racist, because for some reason I keep forgetting...All you have to do is keep comparing me with the mindset of a small town in Ohio, and you have me pegged.

"Keep on rooting for the guys from Guantanamo"

Which "guys" would those be?

what's coming closer and closer into focus is that all the swing states are beginning to swing towards Obama. That doesn't mean that the only ones left voting for McCain are racist, but it's pretty clear which side the racists are on, as evidenced by the video.

Also, consider this quote from Robert A. Gleason Jr. the Republican chairman for PA. "I just think the voters are a bit more sophisticated maybe in the southeast. "They're not as susceptible to attack ads," "I worry about the southeast. Obama is making inroads."

This is what Gleason Jr. is saying essentially, "I worry when too many voters are intelligent because we can't manipulate them like we would want with our misleading ads".

Gleason would be a lot happier and less worried if all the voters were like the folks in the video. Isn't that the truth?

The upsurge for Obama has been linked to the Acorn voter fraud in PA. That is Obama's weapon against misleading ads such as this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW2iZ1pD2G4

Tell me what is "misleading" about the above ad, Steve.

How does Murtha's district elect an idiot like this. Is there something in the water there?

That doesn't mean that the only ones left voting for McCain are racist, but it's pretty clear which side the racists are on...

Hey, here's a fun thought: let's replace "McCain" with "Obama," and see how many terms we can then substitute for "racist/racists:"

Communists
Socialists
Domestic terrorists
Black separatists
Anarchists
Community agitators
Corrupt financiers
Radical Muslims
Non-Americans

Anyone else wanna offer up a few suggestions?

J.

Thomas,
In response to your ad, I can say confidently that it is exactly the kind of misleading ad that I am talking about. None of the points hold any water against Obama. This ad is pure innuendo attempting to portray Obama as a America-hating terrorist sympathizer who is hoping to give away American power to Islamic terrorists once in office. Nothing could be further from the truth. This kind of propaganda flies in the face of everything that Obama stands for.

Let's go point by point:

1.) Obama seen without his hand over his heart. This is supposed to suggest that Obama hates America sooo much that he refuses to put his hand over his heart when the national anthem is playing. We don't have any sound, we don't know what's happening in the scene but it doesn't matter anyway, because this doesn't mean a thing and shouldn't sway anyone's opinion. This is precisely the kind of garbage that is meant to scare and manipulate ignorant voters.

2.) The Cuban Che Guevara flags in a campaign office. This is also meant to scare people but it has absolutely no substance. If this factors into someone's thinking in the voting booth, God help them; they should be focusing on real issues that affect them. Che is a controversial figure. There are 1000s of young politically minded folks working for Obama. Some of them might have sympathy for Che for what they think he accomplished in his life. Just because some young campaign worker is a fan of Che doesn't mean anything. But the point is not to discuss Che. He has no relevance to Obama.

3.) 33,000 dollars in 'illegal donations'. I'm sorry but I cannot find evidence of this anywhere apart from rightwing blogs which have been known to spread false smears on Obama regularly.

4.) A top Hamas official endorsed Obama. This doesn't mean a damn thing. This has no relation to what Obama stands for. Listen to what Obama proposes for the U.S. Look at his record. How do his policies have anything to do with what some nutjob from Hamas says. He could any number of reasons for saying such a thing.

5.) Reverend Wright: Look. Anything I've ever heard and read said by Obama shows him as a tempered, intelligent man who is nothing whatsoever like Reverend Wright. Yes, I'll admit it's strange that he was at Wright's church for so long, but I don't believe it is substantial reason to mistrust him or not vote for him. Obama could have a personal human relationship with Wright as a friend that has nothing to do with their political beliefs. This kind of thing happens in life believe it or not. Wright is an idiot. I agree. Obama has left him behind. I don't think what Wright says has anything to do with how Obama will perform as President.

So, there you go. This as is meant to suggest to ignorant voters that Obama hates America and that he is interested in destroying the country. It suggests that he wants to implement Communism and terrorism in the US. It's all a bunch of bull. This is exactly why you have idiots like the people in those videos saying the stupid things they say.

I'm so sick and tired of our leftie commenters here and their constant charges of racism. For cryin out loud, YES there's racism. No, it's not only white western Pennsylvanian conservatives. You wouldn't believe the level of overt racism I've seen here in my own town coming from black people.

This isn't a problem coming strictly from white people. It's a two way street. It comes from liberals, conservatives, whites, blacks, all manner of people, but you lefties don't want to afford any attention to the REAL issue of racism. You just want to scream and holler at people you don't even fucking know about their perceived associations with racists.

Good God. You're not even worth the time to discuss it rationally. Carry on with your little snits.

JFO, it's not that hard to get stupid quotes from people. How about those classics, asking voters if they agree with Obama's pro-life and anti-stem cell research stands? Oh, yeah, they agree with Obama on those.

I hope Murtha gets a lot of air time for his comments because he's playing by different rules than other people... he's playing by "the highest morality is to admit racism even if you aren't" liberal rules. But he's admitting racism for other people who may not agree that they are racist, who may be sick and tired of the rules that prevent them from ever *ever* denying they are racist (because that is proof that they are... only a racist would claim not to be.)

It's a pathology. It's unhealthy. This compulsory racial guilt is not the way to racial healing and people are tired of it.

And REALLY... couldn't they have found a black candidate who was actually qualified? Well, maybe they couldn't, because maybe it was necessary to get someone who was up and coming and hadn't been tainted by having to struggle in a party that is actually hostile to blacks and women, overall. If he wins will we be allowed to be over racism? What will the Dems have left if they don't have an oppressed class to champion?

1) So why doesn't Obama put his hand over his heart? It does look strange. He has to know it looks strange. He has to know that he's expected to do it. He has to have decided, for a reason, not to. What is his reason?

2) People who are impressed with Che, are impressed with Obama. The relevance is... people who are impressed with Che, are impressed with Obama.

3) 33K in illegal donations is a minuscule fraction of of Obama's campaign donations. It's a pointless point. I get six glossies in the mail from Obama for every one I've gotten from McCain. Obama has freaking ridiculous funds to use for his campaign. Two times what McCain has to spend. McCain would be better off portraying Obama as over-funded.

4) A Hamas official endorsed Obama. What this means is that a Hamas official prefers Obama's policies in the Middle East. It also means that the Hamas official is too stupid to realize that this will not convince many Americans to vote for Obama.

5) Obama has no friends. He has only those he has "left behind."

JFO... sad, in that long diatribe not a single word of condemnation of Murtha's comment.

Why? Unable to? Agree with him? Or just being your old cantankerous asshatted self?

And BTW, maybe you can explain all the quotes you provided and refer to terrorists. Since when does remarking on terrorists, calling one a terrorist, or claiming someone "pals around with one" equates to being racist?

Funny Media [ they don't]Matters makes the same idiotic statement.

Is that where you get your talking points?

Murtha must really be confident of his chances for reelection.

Usually calling your voters stupid racist hicks less than a month before you need their votes is a poor strategy.

Steve~

This kind of propaganda flies in the face of everything that Obama stands for.

What's interesting is how you break down problems with the ad, yet can't really explain why he won't put his hand over his heart or why Guevara's picture is in Obama's campaign office in clear sight.

You also provided no counter argument on what Obama really stands for.

Another "misleading" ad:

Hillary Clinton Rips Apart Barack Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQadAAlK9c4

Senator Biden's take on Obama's attack on McCain?

Biden: Obama ad attacking McCain "Terrible"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SKjTqgjq8E

Well, maybe the good folks of Western PA will finally have their fill of this shitstain, and vote his sorry ass out and give him a bus ticket to the nursing home.

Your right Steve.

Obama's just an ordinary guy who was unlucky enough to be near Bill Ayers on those two boards AND spend a little lime in his living room talking politics with like minded folks.

Isn't it just absolutely a stunning accident he sat in the pews of that church run by the anti-semetic racebating pastor....I'm mean to be sooo surprised after 20 years, WHO could have known???

Boy, wasn't Obama just an unlucky guy for the owner of a property he and Michelle wanted but couldn't afford to voluntarily split it in half and sell the Obama's one of the parcels at $300K below market...and SHAZAAM, a buyer for the other half appears IMMEDIATELY to buy the other half at full price, and coincidently also be fundraiser and developer in need of govt. housing contracts. If Obama hadn't such bad fortue, he might have bought the house for 500K below market (oh well, better luck next time).

Man, the Obama's just can't get a break, what with Michelle's salary going from the mid 100's to over 300K just 6 weeks before her employer gets a $1M earmark from...guess who...LOLOL. Man, these folks are just victims of circumstance and McCain needs to lay-off...NOW (or risk being called a RACIST).

He doesn't hate America. He's just been a little unlucky. And now you know why Michelle isn't really proud of her country.

When visiting a friend in W. Virginia she took me out to a night on town. Every bar we went to had a sign saying you had to be a member. I asked my friend why no one asked for our membership card. She explained it's to keep blacks out. It's only enforced when a black person enters the bar. To top it off, when a black person tries to buy a membership card they are told the manager that approves members is not here or they already met their quoto tonight.

Or it could be, FriendInWV, that W. Virginia has over a dozen dry, or partially dry, counties where membership to clubs is a way to get around the laws. I used to live in a dry county in Texas where clubs did just that. It had nothing to do with racism. Your story is merely anecdotal and shows no basis in fact other than a friend's assumption that every bar you went to wanted to keep blacks out.

Um, I guess it should be evident to anyone who sucks wind, but I aver that everyone, regardless of color, socio-economic class, or belief, is racist and/or prejudiced towards some people to some extent, present company included. It's simply human nature. Anyone who says they're not is simply lying. It's the elephant in the room. It's there. Why deny it? For example, my own prejudice consists of people whose world views differ from mine and includes some ethnicities which aren't black.