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Presidential Debate Number 3 - Open Thread

Share you thoughts leading up to and during this evenings final debate...

Lorie adds: Jim Hoft has a good rundown of the highlights of the debate. Sister Toldjah also has a great running post on the debate. Bob Owens has a debate review in two sentences. Here is my take in two sentences: McCain made some good points on some issues, but let other opportunities pass that he could have made more of and he did not push Obama hard enough when Obama did not answer truthfully. Unless McCain makes the most of some of Obama's less than truthful responses in some killer ads, this debate will end up doing nothing to help him. Ace says McCain lost because he didn't make points on the number one issue today. I was also really disappointed that McCain did not make an issue of who is responsible for the Fannie/Freddie sub-prime mess and who was right about it and tried to do something about it and who just wrote some letters. Why does he refuse to make that case? Why throw away such a strong argument on the most important issue? It is maddening.


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Oh no! It started, we're do... (Below threshold)

Oh no! It started, we're doomed!

Here we go: greed and ange... (Below threshold)
Jon S.:

Here we go: greed and anger on Wall Street! And now he discusses Fannie and Freddie without tieing The One and the Dems to the crisis! Is he trying to lose?

The target are the indies. ... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

The target are the indies. Not the GOP, not the wackos, the indies.

That is where the election will be won or lost.

Is he trying to l... (Below threshold)
Is he trying to lose?
Stop being negative! DJ says "Shame on you!", you're harshing his mellow.
Plumber Gate!... (Below threshold)
epador:

Plumber Gate!

Damn the "indies"! Full ... (Below threshold)

Damn the "indies"! Full conservatism ahead!
(I know, "Stop dreamin' ya friggin' moroon!")

McCain needs to hang the an... (Below threshold)
retired millitary:

McCain needs to hang the anchor around Obama's neck.

Trying to play nice is not going to get it espeically with the moderator is against McCain.

No bump on O man criticizin... (Below threshold)
epador:

No bump on O man criticizing McC, but up once he talks about tax relief, bumps up. Now he's cutting 95% of folks taxes?

John looks like he has a happy stick up his ass.

OOOO! McCain did good on th... (Below threshold)

OOOO! McCain did good on the taxes subject. Schiver can't have that! Time to change course...

I pronounce Obama the winne... (Below threshold)

I pronounce Obama the winner of the Freudian Slip of the Night for saying "HealthScare" instead of Healthcare.

oooo, embrace new ethics. ... (Below threshold)
epador:

oooo, embrace new ethics. Sounds like the National Obamist Party will be telling us how to stop our profligate ways.

So far so good. Obama is v... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

So far so good. Obama is vague, but admitted we 'are living beyond our means', while McCain talks energy policy and jobs and cutting government spending.

Line item veto.... (Below threshold)
epador:

Line item veto.

McCain said America has 2nd... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash:

McCain said America has 2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world. America's rate is 35%; Ireland's rate is 11%. Where are companies going to go?

Well, a large healthcare company in Barack Obama's Chicago area recently announced it is laying off 1000 employees due to the closing of one of its plants. Guess where that plant and those 1000 jobs are going? Want to move to Ireland?

Did The One really say, "he... (Below threshold)

Did The One really say, "healthScare"?
Is there a Tivo in the sphere?

Obama is stumbling, wants t... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Obama is stumbling, wants to use 'scalpel' on gov't spending instead of 'hatchet', then goes on to say - to a question about the deficit - that some programs are 'underfunded'.

Oh good, Obama is trying to tie McCain to Bush again.

I thought Line item veto wa... (Below threshold)
retired millitary:

I thought Line item veto was kicked out as being unconstitutional.

Here we go now with the blame bush meme.

I remember you people here ... (Below threshold)
Allen:

I remember you people here complaining about Obama not wearing a flag pin. Where is McCains pin, because he is unpatriotic (like you said about Obama.)

On taxes, McCain still thinks the average middle class person makes 5 million per year. Come on, give a tax break to people making under 250K per year, whats wrong with that.

no bump with O man saying M... (Below threshold)
epador:

no bump with O man saying McCain voted for Bushes
McCain bumps up, "You shoulda run 4 years ago!"

We don't need a scalpel or ... (Below threshold)

We don't need a scalpel or a hatchet to cut the budget and government. We need an armory of chainsaws.

"Senator Obama, I am not Pr... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

"Senator Obama, I am not President Bush. If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run 4 years ago."

ROFL.

"Did The One really say,... (Below threshold)

"Did The One really say, "healthScare"?
Is there a Tivo in the sphere?"

I would love to get confirmation of that...I started laughing pretty hard after I thought I heard him say that!

We need a bulldozer. ... (Below threshold)
epador:

We need a bulldozer.

Also one to deal with O man's BS.

Schieffer is trying to get ... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Schieffer is trying to get the ads toned down. Guess talking about Ayers and ACORN and so on is too much trouble ...

Nice parry Senator McCain, ... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Nice parry Senator McCain, calling out Obama for not calling off his thugs.

How do call a messiah a lia... (Below threshold)

How do call a messiah a liar?
Illustrate it. McCain just did that with the townhall broken promise and the, Con. lewis, sliming of his campaign as racist w/ no retort from obambi.

What does Obama say?<... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

What does Obama say?

"Your network just did a poll ..." uhhhh yeah, one of the four in Obama's pocket. I really do hope and pray that America sees O for the sleaze he is.

Obama is incapable of honor... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Obama is incapable of honor. Go get him on it, John!

Please, please, John McCain... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash:

Please, please, John McCain, at least slap him like a sissy. Please say Bill Ayers and terrorist and Jeremiah Wright and 1000-Sundays-of-hate and where-are-all-your-bonafides.

1) he fails to repudiate ra... (Below threshold)
epador:

1) he fails to repudiate racist claim
2) smiling smugly, O Man, keep smiling

Gee, Obama is ragging on Mc... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Gee, Obama is ragging on McCain's supporters, not noting what McCain said in response, and not a word about his own crowds. The candidate of 'new direction' has no problem with t-shirts calling candidates profane names, threats against conservatives by his own campaign workers, and the like .. after all, it's all about getting what he wants.

McCain needs to stop whinin... (Below threshold)
retired millitary:

McCain needs to stop whining about hurt feelings and needs to start hammering.

He hurt my feelings and I want an apology isnt going to do it.

And McCain needs to hammer Obama on Ayers instead of letting him go on about it.

Did he forget to sha... (Below threshold)
Larry:


Did he forget to shave his upper lip?

Here it comes ... Ayers, AC... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Here it comes ... Ayers, ACORN, lay it out calmly but clearly.

Oh LOOKOUT! Here comes John... (Below threshold)

Oh LOOKOUT! Here comes Johnny!

Obama has that lawyer slick... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Obama has that lawyer slick talk ... I wonder if he realizes who matters in this debate?

Ahhhhhhhh, ACORN, one ... two ... three O-lies in 30 seconds. And he dares to call them "facts".

If I was a follower of one ... (Below threshold)

If I was a follower of one a. hitler, would it not matter because "I was only eight years old when he did those things" ? Criminy, please slap him down for that tired, lie of a cleche!!!

Obama laughs nervously, he ... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Obama laughs nervously, he knows this one will bounce around for a while, and we will see the effects somewhere down the road.

McCain doing too well. Shiv... (Below threshold)

McCain doing too well. Shiver gotta get off THAT topic.

Obama on the canvas for an ... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash:

Obama on the canvas for an 8-count! Ayers!

weak support for Biden... (Below threshold)
epador:

weak support for Biden

This is why it was a bad id... (Below threshold)

This is why it was a bad idea to wait so long to press Obama about Ayers. He's had so much time to prepare an answer for it.

However, his answer didn't acknowledge Ayers is a terrorist and that it was a bad idea to be associated with him in any way. Why didn't he throw Ayers under the bus?

BIDENObama said that w... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

BIDEN

Obama said that with a straight face?

Good, he left out the part ... (Below threshold)
epador:

Good, he left out the part of how good she looks in a bathing suit.

Ugh. The VP candidates are ... (Below threshold)

Ugh. The VP candidates are NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. Another BS question.

Because he can't, Tom. Oba... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Because he can't, Tom. Obama's "experience" is known to be a sham, he cannot allow anyone to think about his many errors in judgment.

McCain's glowing descriptio... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash:

McCain's glowing description of his VP candidate was magnificent. Good job.

Gotta get the kid to sleep.... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Gotta get the kid to sleep. See you all later.

LOL Johnny corrects the mod... (Below threshold)
epador:

LOL Johnny corrects the moderator!

HEY! McCain just told a har... (Below threshold)

HEY! McCain just told a harsh, true fact about Biden! What the hell is going on here !?!

Has anyone ever won the pre... (Below threshold)

Has anyone ever won the presidency using the rope-a-dope tactic?

Obambi always answers the q... (Below threshold)
MPR:

Obambi always answers the questions about Ayers that nobody is asking and won't answer the question that everyone has.

obambi: "We can't ease high... (Below threshold)

obambi: "We can't ease high oil prices by getting more of our own oil. But please, listen to my 10 year plan..."

The oil companies aren't dr... (Below threshold)
MPR:

The oil companies aren't drilling in those"68,000" acres because they know there is nothing there!

Obama mirrors McCain's ener... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash:

Obama mirrors McCain's energy proposal on reducing imported oil. Nail him now, John! You've got America's Energy Czarina on your damn ticket!

Drill here Drill NOW!!... (Below threshold)
MPR:

Drill here Drill NOW!!

MPR:You got that r... (Below threshold)

MPR:

You got that right!

Great Zinger about watching... (Below threshold)
epador:

Great Zinger about watching his words. Go John.

And that goes for comment #... (Below threshold)

And that goes for comment #57 also.

The oil companies ... (Below threshold)
The oil companies aren't drilling in those"68,000" acres because they know there is nothing there!
SSHHH! Nancy Pulloutsi does NOT approve of that message!
Sara= more gas and oil... (Below threshold)
MPR:

Sara= more gas and oil

Strong eyeball roll after O... (Below threshold)
epador:

Strong eyeball roll after O man criticizes Columbia. Sadly most folks won't understand why.

The odd note to me througho... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

The odd note to me throughout this whole thing, is the politeness of McCain. He admires Senator Obama, but you see the incredulous look on McCain's face when Obama says "look at offshore drilling", rather than plans to put it into action.

epador, you are a gentleman... (Below threshold)

epador, you are a gentleman and a scholar. At least, I think you're a gentleman...

ooooooooHerbert Ob... (Below threshold)
epador:

oooooooo

Herbert Obama

Did anyone else hear Obama ... (Below threshold)

Did anyone else hear Obama say "healthScare" by accident earlier?

Obama smiling at meeting wi... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Obama smiling at meeting with no preconditions. I guess we know the real reason he is smiling now.

Free Trade! McCain puts hi... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash:

Free Trade! McCain puts him on canvas again! Did you see McCain's eyebrows when Obama went all conspiracy theory about his communist friends (labor organizers?) in Columbia getting knocked off? McCain's Columbia Free Trade Agreement was a hard body blow to Obama.

Us State Skool Graduates ar... (Below threshold)
epador:

Us State Skool Graduates are very skolarly.

Columbia deserves our trade... (Below threshold)
MPR:

Columbia deserves our trade agreement. They are a good budding democracy and friend in the region. Good line about Chavez.

OK, I'm a single issue vote... (Below threshold)
epador:

OK, I'm a single issue voter and John got my vote. More community health centers!

Alright, I call BS on Obama... (Below threshold)

Alright, I call BS on Obama's supposed intellect. He's going to negotiate with insurance companies about preexisting conditions? Riiiiiiiiight. Unless of course, they want to go out of business.

Wait, Mac thinks parents do... (Below threshold)

Wait, Mac thinks parents don't know their kids are fat? Please! Enough with the "programs", OKAY SENATOR ?!

Small Businesses will be ex... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash:

Small Businesses will be exempt from Obama's Health Care Penalty! Yeah! Zero! Anybody know the Amway Dude? Hell, all of America will be an LLC by January 28th. Anymore loopholes?

LOL Senator Government!!!... (Below threshold)
epador:

LOL Senator Government!!!!

The big A. I think I just s... (Below threshold)

The big A. I think I just saw obambi start to sweat.

Come on John! He's for INFA... (Below threshold)

Come on John! He's for INFANTICIDE! COME ON, say it! PLEASE!

I don't remember any mentio... (Below threshold)
epador:

I don't remember any mention of abortion in the Bill of Rights. It must be in the Bill (Ayers) of Lefts.

epador--twolaneflash is in ... (Below threshold)

epador--twolaneflash is in on the Columbia reference also...

YESSSS!!!!!!... (Below threshold)
epador:

YESSSS!!!!!!

YES - YES - YES!!! Finally!... (Below threshold)

YES - YES - YES!!! Finally!

Obama with The Fairness Fai... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash:

Obama with The Fairness Fairy again! He wants Supremes who will dispense Fairness like he will dispense Joe the Plumber's money. Commie bastard!

Even NARAL stayed out of th... (Below threshold)

Even NARAL stayed out of this one! Come on John! Tell the whole tale!

He's definitely got the Hel... (Below threshold)

He's definitely got the Hello Kitty mittens off.

I don't remember a... (Below threshold)
I don't remember any mention of abortion in the Bill of Rights
No, the founders let Betsy Ross handle it, but she was too busy sowing the flag.
Education, Nail him JOHN!!!... (Below threshold)
epador:

Education, Nail him JOHN!!!

Obama the Baby-Killer! He ... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash Author Profile Page:

Obama the Baby-Killer! He couldn't save the baby because it would undermine Roe v Wade. He came out of that one with his suit looking for a hanger.

Oh well. This was better th... (Below threshold)

Oh well. This was better than the 1st 2. (notice me ignoring the education thing. The cleches coming would probably hurt me physically.)

"He came out of that one... (Below threshold)

"He came out of that one with his suit looking for a hanger."

LOL! Pun intended, or not?

ladies and gents...make sur... (Below threshold)

ladies and gents...make sure you get involved in local educational issues. Teach your kids about the differences in capitalism and socialism. Take leadership roles in your community and educate, educate, educate.

Use the same playbook to take back the educational system, but this time, for common sense.

Obama flubs local control o... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash Author Profile Page:

Obama flubs local control of education answer with his long drawled-out "BUT", which negated everything he just said, before going on to his friend Ayer's dream: Federal takeover.

Oh hell, he didn't even use... (Below threshold)
epador:

Oh hell, he didn't even use a tack hammer.

Honored and Humbled. Bitch... (Below threshold)
epador:

Honored and Humbled. Bitch slap to you, O man.

obambi: "We can't have the ... (Below threshold)

obambi: "We can't have the oil instantaneously, so forget it!"
"Not everyone can have vouchers, so nobody should!" good comeback Mac.
"Plumbers make enough, they need to help 'those that are behind' them."
"Giving medical aid to a living baby might harm Roe/Wade or inconvenience the mother, so we must be allowed to kill it."
"Lie about Ayers, lie, lie, lie aboout EVERYTHING"

This is a referendum on obambi folks. This guy simply CAN NOT be POTUS. America would NEVER be the same.

I'm watching CNNWo... (Below threshold)
epador:

I'm watching CNN

Wolf Bullshitter looks BAD.

Hillary coming up soon.

Have you heard of the new p... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash Author Profile Page:

Have you heard of the new public school English textbooks that have a 15 page homage to Barack Obama? Gee, I wonder how that became an essential to an American education in English? The communists are deeply entrenched in the war on America's children and America's future as a free nation. Get involved in your schools, people. I home schooled mine. Not a welfare recipient in the bunch.

I don't know guys. McCain ... (Below threshold)

I don't know guys. McCain mopped the floor with Obama this time, but it's too little, too late I'm afraid.

I think Obama is going to rope-a-dope himself right into the White House.

Fundamental, (unspeakable) ... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Fundamental, (unspeakable) change. More tax cut B.S. The only thing he's fought for is to maintain his political career. Total, B.S., O.

Has anyone ever wo... (Below threshold)
Has anyone ever won the presidency using the rope-a-dope tactic?
Yeah, it was that muslim guy, Muhammed something.
Tom Brokaw is using his dee... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Tom Brokaw is using his deep "I'm the newscaster talent" voice. Time to change the channel.

And, isn't it appropos that... (Below threshold)

And, isn't it appropos that obama would pattern himself after a draft-dodging muslim?

I'm watching the debate hos... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash Author Profile Page:

I'm watching the debate host channel CBS post-debate focus group. Katie Couric looks sick, absolutely down-in-the-mouth. Her beloved Obama has been abused! First segment, McCain getting good reports but not enough to get on-camera commitment from any of them. One "uncommitted" black female was moved by Obama's performance to change from "leaning toward McCain last debate" to committing to Obama tonight; I saw an Obama plant knowingly played to by Couric. Oh Shit, the commercial just broke in the middle with a teaser and a smile from Katie Couric that one of her "uncommitted" focus group members just COMMITTED! You can't make this shit up! The Communist Barack Channel is pulling out all the stops to salvage Obama's poor showing.

Shameless pandering for Oba... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash Author Profile Page:

Shameless pandering for Obama by CBS. OBAMA. sigh. OBAMA. sigh. tingles for Katie's crew and the plants in her "uncommitted voters" focus group. Puke. I'm changing channels.

I think Obama is g... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
I think Obama is going to rope-a-dope himself right into the White House.

He's the dem's candidate. They have known all along that he is not legally qualified to be running for president. That's what's happening with ACORN and all the media sway. Jesus, this whole election is a farce if Obama wins.

he is not legally... (Below threshold)
he is not legally qualified to be running for president
I haven't followed "birth certificate-gate". Is there a there there ? Or is that what you're talking about? Als, have you heard about the guy at American Thinker who says Ayers ghost wrote "dreams of his father" ?
"They have known all alo... (Below threshold)

"They have known all along that he is not legally qualified to be running for president."

I think the birth certificate thing is a bunch of hogwash. Let's focus on his terrible judgment with Ayers, Acorn, infanticide, etc.

The guy who filed the lawsu... (Below threshold)

The guy who filed the lawsuit on "birth certificate-gate" is a Democrat who's known for filing frivolous lawsuits. Obama has submitted a copy of his birth certificate to the appropriate court from a hospital in Hawaii.

And LaMedusa, no offense in... (Below threshold)

And LaMedusa, no offense intended. I enjoy reading your comments.

I thought I heard that his ... (Below threshold)

I thought I heard that his lawyers were fighting having to produce an actual cert. of birth.

Frankly, I'm torn between hoping he is disqualified and hoping the American people just don't know yet who he really is, because,if they DO know (as Schipperts earlier post suggests), and they just don't care about Ayers, ACORN and infanticide, etc., we're boned.

blockquoteThe guy who fi... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

blockquoteThe guy who filed the lawsuit on "birth certificate-gate" is a Democrat who's known for filing frivolous lawsuits. Obama has submitted a copy of his birth certificate to the appropriate court from a hospital in Hawaii.

Tom, we know that he was born in Hawaii. The question is why the dems are trying to block the release of the docs. When he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and moved to Indonesia, Obama went to school there, as well. Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship, and it is not clear whether or not his American citizenship has been reestablished. I am thinking the dems are trying to block release of his birth cert as a distraction to the other information.
When he first entered the political arena, he had his only opponent petitioned off the ballot, so he won uncontested. This would remove any formality of comparing the background of each candidate. And of course we are still awaiting confirmation of his length of time in Jakarta and adoption.

Mark:I don't think... (Below threshold)

Mark:

I don't think the American people care. For a lot of reasons. I hope the Wizbang guys don't care about this, but for one RARE time, I'm going to point to my blog in a comment for this. Kevin, since this is your post, I hope you don't mind--and I know you know I don't do this at all. I make it a point not to pimp myself out, but I think the topic is important enough to talk about. Here it is. There is a short version of the vid in the original post, and a long version in the update. Be sure to see the links to The American Thinker to tie it all together.

It may sound "conspiracy theory", but form your own opinion and let me know if you think I'm nuts. I value the opinions of the readers of this blog.

Oh well, looks like I messe... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Oh well, looks like I messed up the blockquote.

Tom, this would explain a l... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Tom, this would explain a lot of things. The connection with ACORN and the voter fraud being linked where the states are starting to pull ahead for Obama. I have spoken to democrats that see this fraud and are voting republican for the first time in their lives. Don't think the American people don't care. I am an independent, and I definitely don't want this guy as our president.

The question is wh... (Below threshold)
The question is why the dems are trying to block the release of the docs. When he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and moved to Indonesia, Obama went to school there, as well...

(snip)

...Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship, and it is not clear whether or not his American citizenship has been reestablished.

From what I've been reading, the fact that Indonesia doesn't recognize dual citizenship does not disqualify Obama's American citizenship. Perhaps in Indonesia it does, but not in America. A natural born citizen is still an American. I think this is a mutually exclusive situation.

I'm definitely no lawyer, so please correct me if and where I'm wrong.

I am an independen... (Below threshold)
I am an independent, and I definitely don't want this guy as our president.

We definitely agree on that, LaMedusa. And again, I want to emphasize that I mean no offense and I enjoy your comments. ;-)

One more thing, LaMedusa. ... (Below threshold)

One more thing, LaMedusa. I'm VERY conservative, if you haven't paid very close attention to my comments. So, keep that in mind as I comment on Obama's citizenship questions.

Tom, I posted this on an ea... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Tom, I posted this on an earlier thread about Ayers. If you scroll down, you will see the flow chart of the manufactured crisis strategy, so I am aware of this. Thank you for your comment.

http://democratsforrealchange.info/

Interesting minute on CNN. ... (Below threshold)
epador:

Interesting minute on CNN. They were presenting their "undecided" voters and thought they had McCain on the ropes after two folks were questioned. So then she polled them, got an EVEN break, and quickly shuffled out with a "back to you Anderson..."

HA!

LaMedusa:I noticed... (Below threshold)

LaMedusa:

I noticed the first post on the blog you linked to was about the comments Michelle Obama supposedly made to African Press International. According to LGF, Michelle Obama never contacted that organization.

And, whatever Democrats4RealChange is running on their site is killing the performance on my PC. I've tried killing Firefox and rebooting cleared it, but once I navigated to the site again it maxed out the performance of my CPU.

From what I've bee... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
From what I've been reading, the fact that Indonesia doesn't recognize dual citizenship does not disqualify Obama's American citizenship.

Yeah, there are a couple of things going on here. If he went to school in Indonesia, he would have to lose his American citizenship and became an Indonesian citizen. When he came back to Hawaii, it's not clear whether he actually became an American citizen again. But if he already submitted the birth docs, why are the dems blocking it now? Obama has used American tax dollars to support this guy, also:

Barack Obama & Raila Odinga

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ

WHY?

Yeah, I was also in contact... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Yeah, I was also in contact with someone who said the phone call is supposedly a hoax, but why the secrecy around the birth docs now? Take a look at Obama's affiliation in the youtube link with Raila Odinga. As far as the democrats for change site, I don't have any problems with it. I have a couple of firewalls.

I use firefox, too.... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

I use firefox, too.

Tom, you might want to try ... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Tom, you might want to try doing an ad sweep and registry clean. I have had the cpu thing happen a couple of times going to Youtube. I just did the above.

From what I've been reading... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

From what I've been reading, the fact that Indonesia doesn't recognize dual citizenship does not disqualify Obama's American citizenship. Perhaps in Indonesia it does, but not in America. A natural born citizen is still an American. I think this is a mutually exclusive situation.

I'm definitely no lawyer, so please correct me if and where I'm wrong.

The US did not recognize dual citizenship for a number of years it only been very recent that has changed. If Obama renounced his American Citizenship then he should not be president. If he still has citizenship in Indonesia then he should not be president. No one with dual citizenship should every be allowed as President. I
You cannot serve two masters. That is why the founders wanted people who were natural born citizens not naturalized citizens for president. There are things that we do not allow any foreign nation to see for our won National Security that includes UK, Israel and Australia our closest allies.
If this was done outside of his control and he never renounce his allegiance to America, he should still be able to run. However considering the Marxist company he keeps he should not be President

Tom Blogical,The <... (Below threshold)

Tom Blogical,

The youtube interviews of Yuri Bezmenov are incredible. Kinda reminds me of the Iraqi General who said sadaams' WMDs were spirited away to Syria, because no one cares about that either. Thanks for the link though, at least now I will understand what is going on when the end comes...

Mark:I believe tha... (Below threshold)

Mark:

I believe that there are reports that backed up the claims of the General you're talking about. Satellite data picked up massive movements of transports through the Syrian border just prior to the invasion. The Sadaam army had infiltrated a number of the checkpoints there or had bought them out, according to several reports. All of it is still circumstantial evendence, unfortunately.

Make sure you read the links to the American Thinker, those dovetail with the Bezmenov interview very well.

FYI, I ran RegClean and I'm... (Below threshold)

FYI, I ran RegClean and I'm still having issues with that site in particular. That site is the only one that causes the issue. Every time I go there it kills the CPU usage.

Roger Wilco...over and oot.... (Below threshold)

Roger Wilco...over and oot...

Tom, okay sorry, I don't kn... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Tom, okay sorry, I don't know what the problem is. I'm going to the Bezmenov interviews you posted now. Have a good evening.

Has anyone ever won the ... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

Has anyone ever won the presidency using the rope-a-dope tactic?

I was guessing (hoping?) that McCain would come harder on the final debate. Obama repeated the same things he has in the prior debates.. except that I do think McCain rattle him a time or two (almost like the teleprompter lost sync). I can't help but wonder if the McCain camp had a 'surge' strategy for the debates...




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