I have a feeling that Joe W. is going to be a successful businessman very soon. I predict that enough people will rally around him, sponsor whatever is needed for him to get licensure, and provide him with a waiting list of clients for a guy they know will talk straight with them.

He may be eligible for Ohio state unemployment benefits.

Looks like it illegal for him to practice his trade. that's his own fault. I have nosympathy for law breakers.

Why are you bashing Toledo? Don't you think the MSM inquired into Joe's certification with the city? Maybe this information is accessible through the web. Weren't they just answering the questions? Unless, this is not public information? I don't know. But if the information is public. What did Toledo officials do wrong?

God d*mn them. I hate that we have this going on.

I'm in Southern CA, and was just working in my garage with the radio on. Listening to an oldie station, "The Boomer" AM1450, they felt the need to make this the "newsbreak" item of the hour: "Turns out Joe the Plumber isn't even a plumber, makes nowhere near $250,000, and under Obama's plan, would not have to pay higher taxes"

There were so many things wrong with that statement, it's ridiculous.

I came inside, turned on the television, and the Channel 2 news talking head repeated the statement VERBATIM... I'm guessing straight from the Obama camp.

To witness this disgraceful journalism first hand is strange, sureal, and more than a little bit scary.

(to be fair, the Channel 2 news item also added that there was a tax lien against Joe's home at one time, so that's real reportin')

All this for daring to question a politician's tax plan.

I can really see where all this may be heading, and I don't like it one bit.

This is a real suppression of free speech. This is what the 1st amendment was suppose to prevent.

For all of the people claiming Joe is not a registered voter, I really don't think that matters because ACORN will have registered Joe 4 times by the time the election actually gets here.

Adrian and jmc,

The Righteous Brigade shows up just in time.

Hey guys, wanna take a look at your Secretary of State, who is making the entire state of Ohio a laughingstock?

And the guy was a few weeks away from obtaining his license... It is very probable that he will never be able to get his license now in Toledo, or anywhere where Democrats dominate.

This has made me mad beyond my wildest imagination.

I am from Toledo and I am sickened but not surprised.

Perhaps there's a book deal and endorsements for Joe somewhere. But my guess is he's screwed. He's been obamanized.

Relax folks, John McCain mentioned that he understands that Joe the Plumber just got a lucrative contract to work for a millionaire with seven homes....get it?

Come November, we might be seeing an even more high profile "fall guy".

jmc:

You think some license problem is law breaking? I see, Obama can hang out with people who used to be on the FBI's most wanted list and that is no big deal, but when a guy who asked a simple question has whole life turned up side down it is okay to ruin him.

That is wrong.

Nobody is going to like what I have to say, but I think Joe needs to follow the law and get his license, if that's what the law requires. As liberal a town as Toledo is, the business he works for was going to be negatively affected, anyway.

However, I find it incredibly ironic that asking a tough question of The One brought down the hammer of the government upon him. Big Brother is watching, comrades. Be careful of what you say and do.

It's going to be interesting to see The One's reaction to the story. This is a perfect opportunity to show that he's actually Lord Obama, Most Merciful.

Well, now that I've offended everyone equally with this comment...adios, muchachos!! ;-)

Kim, you're just mad because Toledo beat Michigan !!! Go Rockets!!!

"Looks like it illegal for him to practice his trade."

But more importantly, "looks" like Senator Government is a hardcore Marxist.

From each according to his ability to each according to his need. Share that wealth!

the issue is obama said he wanted to spread the wealth. as usual the dems are trying to hide from that statement.

Obambi's campaign could not have done something better for McCain if he had conceded the race. By keeping Joe in the news he will become an even bigger cause for the government squashing the working man. The details do not matter only that this American in OHIO(of all states) is getting beat down.
Thank you Obambi.

I went to the website of the Toledo Blade (Toledo's NYTimes) to read the hit job on Joe the Plumber. Started surfing around their site, and found a section for online reader polls. One caught my eye:

The poll asked if Sarah Palin abused her power when she fired her ex brother in law, Mike Wooten (Alaska State Trooper.) It was about 90% yes.

Sarah Palin did not fire Mike Wooten. He ended up with a 5 day suspension.

I learned 2 things:

1) The Toledo Blade presents Obama spin as fact

2) about 90% of their readership are idiots.

>What did Toledo officials do wrong?

They took orders from the Obama campaign to discredit a private citizen.

I believe this is why people have lost faith in government. This is the future if Obama is elected. Put up a shed in your yard, you'll find you violated a million laws that nobody has enforced ever, but you had the gall to have the wrong political opinion.

Can the gulags be far behind?

Nobody is going to like what I have to say, but I think Joe needs to follow the law and get his license, if that's what the law requires. As liberal a town as Toledo is, the business he works for was going to be negatively affected, anyway.

Could an Ohioan (me) chime in on this for a sec?

Thanks.

Joe works in Lucas County. Joe works for Mr. Newell. Despite what the MSM has to say, Mr. Newell IS licenced in Lucas County, if the MSM would get off it's fat lazy arses and actually dig for the info. Thankfully, someone (not the MSM of course) did:

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/10/16/the-msm-loses-its-mind-over-undocumented-plumbers/

Oh, and hyper, before you even attempt to pull out a Graeme Frost card:

1. Graeme (or the family) voluntarily appears in a public spotlight, and give a speech for a political party. Joe was a vox pop. Big freaking difference.

2. Graeme's address, tax records, and criminal record (nor his family's) was posted on fucking DKos.

I'm tired of this fucking fake moral equivalence from the Lefties here.

'Joe the Plumber' was required to work for several years in the field and then take a test. He is a few weeks out from being elegible to take the test to become a certified Plumber. Plumbing is a trade, not brain surgery and involves actual manual labor, something foreign to a democrat. He has met all state requirements other than the test. I read on another blog that the plumbers union is getting involved. Maybe Hussien's admission that he is a Marxist and will take from you and everyone else will turn the union endorsement to people who actually support the working people.

As for his tax problem, enough money is on the way to take care of it since 'Huff and Puff' in her normal stupidity published his address. Other sites are asking for donations and getting them. Before today is out he will have a paypal account to donate to.

Major lawsuits for slander of a private citizen are coming and all the evidence needed to win is on the blogs and Media outlets.

signed:
I am 'Joe the Plumber' and 'Joe the plumber is me.

Why are you bashing Toledo? Don't you think the MSM inquired into Joe's certification with the city? Maybe this information is accessible through the web. Weren't they just answering the questions? Unless, this is not public information? I don't know. But if the information is public. What did Toledo officials do wrong?

1. It's Ohio's version of Chicago, it has a LONG LONG history of shenanigans. Number One suspect, Carly "The Fink" Finkbeiner.

2. No, they didn't...or they didn't bother to dig farther than a phone call.

3. Yes, it is. Public. On File. On the Web.

James (former resident of Oregon OH, and Elmore OH)

They took orders from the Obama campaign to discredit a private citizen.

Probably Carly the Fink had a word to two to do with it.

So, Mr Tim Robbins...is this the Chill Wind you've been talking about?

James Cloninger:

Nice to see you're an Ohioan also. What's up with our nutty SoS, anyway? Thanks for the info regarding Lucas County and Mr. Newell.

It amazes me when liberals try to explain how the workplace functions. Most are deficient in that regard. I would explain apprenticeship programs, etc. but they still won't get it. They are incapable. They just spout talking points.

What they won't comment on is Obama's response to the question itself. Instead they "kill the messenger" who revealed Obama. ww

However, I find it incredibly ironic that asking a tough question of The One brought down the hammer of the government upon him.

That's not what brought the hammer down. It was McCain repeatedly using him as the anti-Obama poster boy during the debate. McCain's the one who brought him into play.

Do you not think that if Obama repeatedly described "Halsey the Designer" or "Brian the Bartender" who had no healthcare, that the right would bring down the same hammer?

Yeah, Brian. It's all McCain's fault a bunch of ghoulish, venom-spitting Obama-supporting vipers set out to destroy one man because he asked a question that elicited a thoroughly Marxist statement from Obama. Your defense is the usual: You did it too!

Bryan:

So it's McCains fault the government in Toledo
came down on this guy for asking a question of
Obama?
How amazing, I never knew Obama could walk on
water and is blameless of all questionable
behaviour that takes place for his advantage.
The buck just keeps on passing until it's
someone elses turn going under the bus.
You should be careful of what you wish for
Bryan, you could find yourself living in most
interesting times.

It's all McCain's fault a bunch of ghoulish, venom-spitting Obama-supporting vipers set out to destroy one man because he asked a question that elicited a thoroughly Marxist statement from Obama.

No, they (referring to the media) did it because McCain propped him up as a part of his campaign. How many ghoulish venom-spitting vipers set out to destroy Joe prior to the third debate? McCain ineptly threw him to the wolves, then stepped out of the blood flow.

Your defense is the usual: You did it too!

I offer no defense. It's terrible what the media did to Joe. Just as it was when right-wing bloggers (including Wizbang) did it to Halsey the Designer and Brian the Bartender (which you conveniently didn't bother to comment on). How many lefty bloggers are staking out Joe's house?

And to set you straight, "you did it too" is never a defense. But it does effectively show the disingenuousness and lack of credibility of those who act offended.

I never knew Obama could walk on
water and is blameless of all questionable
behaviour that takes place for his advantage.

Well, Maggy, when you figure it out, please let us all know what Obama did and for what he should take the blame.

Nice to see you're an Ohioan also. What's up with our nutty SoS, anyway?

Blame Taft and his cronies for screwing up their party.

The name is spelt Maggie, Byron.

When the buck finally comes to rest
you probably wont like it either.

Bryan:
...
You should be careful of what you wish for
Bryan, you could find yourself living in most
interesting times.

The name is spelled Brian, Meggie.

The name is spelled Brian, Meggie.

Yes. I know. Byron.

So you spell my name wrong, and when I spell yours wrong as a light-hearted jab back at you, you get all upset and mangle mine even further? Is that really the level of maturity you're operating at?

"Do you not think that if Obama repeatedly described "Halsey the Designer" or "Brian the Bartender" who had no healthcare, that the right would bring down the same hammer?"

The point I made was it was ironic that the government hammer brought down upon him on behalf of a socialist; not the media. Not surprising that went way, way, WAY over your head, despite your quoting that part of my comment verbatim. I'm sure you'll try to twist that into something else or change the subject again. SOP for you.

"Is that really the level of maturity you're operating at?"

Actually, I think she's trying to show you the level of maturity with which you're operating. Once again...no surprise you missed the point.

You're really very boring. Bryin. ;-)

Actually, I think she's trying to show you the level of maturity with which you're operating. Once again...no surprise you missed the point.

By being the first to misspell my name? Yes, I confess that level of discourse doesn't register with me.

You're really very boring. Bryin. ;-)

But apparently I'm compelling enough for you, Tim.

"But apparently I'm compelling enough for you, Tim."

I admit it was very compelling to get an opportunity to needlessly annoy you in the same way you needlessly annoy others around here. Mission accomplished.