The Corner points us to HR 808, the Department of Peace & Non-Violence. It's a new cabinet level the Democrats are proposing. I'm not kidding. This is going to be huge. And expensive. And oppressive. Take a look at some of the offices:
- Office of Peace Education and Training
- Office of Domestic Peace Activities
- Office of International Peace Activities
- Office of Technology for Peace
- Office of Arms Control and Disarmament
- Office of Peaceful Coexistence and Nonviolent Conflict Resolution
- Office of Human Rights and Economic Rights
Was this pulled from a George Orwell novel? Perhaps this is pulled from the class list at Bill Ayers' Peace School (ironic coming from an unrepentant terrorist), the curriculum of which, as CNN reported earlier this month, centered on a United Nations theme.






Comments (39)
Ick.I just hope so... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Clint | October 24, 2008 6:58 PM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
Ick.
I just hope someone is keeping track of all these things and plans to tack them onto an ad campaign on the benefits of divided government.
1. Posted by Clint | October 24, 2008 6:58 PM |
Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 18:58
2. Posted by marc | October 24, 2008 7:13 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Old news, the nutcase Rep Kucinich filed this a while ago.
2. Posted by marc | October 24, 2008 7:13 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 19:13
3. Posted by david | October 24, 2008 7:15 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Reminds me of the Sanders book "The Tomorrow File," where a Department of Bliss has been established.
Scary.
Didn't see a name attached to HR 808 in the link, but I'd wager that Kucinich is behind it.
3. Posted by david | October 24, 2008 7:15 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 19:15
4. Posted by Captain America | October 24, 2008 7:19 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
I just lost my dinner of this.....
4. Posted by Captain America | October 24, 2008 7:19 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 19:19
5. Posted by GB | October 24, 2008 7:23 PM | Score: -15 (21 votes cast)
Well at least you admit Obama will be the next president. Thanks for a shred of honesty in a blog filled with anger, resentment, and denial.
But please, let me help you guys. I will create some "He's not MY president" bumperstickers for you guys to show the world how petulant and bitter you will be for the next 4-8 years.
5. Posted by GB | October 24, 2008 7:23 PM |
Score: -15 (21 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 19:23
6. Posted by Peter F. | October 24, 2008 7:30 PM | Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Here will be the nominees:
Office of Peace Education and Training: Rosanne Barr
Office of Domestic Peace Activities: Rosie O'Donnell
Office of International Peace Activities: Medea Benjamin (leader of Code Pink)
Office of Technology for Peace: Markos Moulitsas
Office of Arms Control and Disarmament: William Ayers
Office of Peaceful Coexistence and Nonviolent Conflict Resolution: William Ayers (he can hold two posts)
Office of Human Rights and Economic Rights: George Soros
(Feel free to ad lib on mine. I'm sure you can do better....)
6. Posted by Peter F. | October 24, 2008 7:30 PM |
Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 19:30
7. Posted by hcddbz | October 24, 2008 7:47 PM | Score: 7 (11 votes cast)
This will be funded by the 25% cut in the DoD
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/10/24/frank-calls-for-25-percent-cut-in-defense-spending-eventual-tax-hikes/
7. Posted by hcddbz | October 24, 2008 7:47 PM |
Score: 7 (11 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 19:47
8. Posted by wolfwalker | October 24, 2008 8:08 PM | Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
Note that buried deep within are references to "violence against animals" and "gun-related violence and the overwhelming presence of handguns." Hello, animal rights wackos. Hello, Brady Bunch.
Christ on a crutch, what a liberal wet dream.
8. Posted by wolfwalker | October 24, 2008 8:08 PM |
Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 20:08
9. Posted by the terminator | October 24, 2008 8:24 PM | Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
I will be purchasing arms and ammo for Christmas. And a Merry Christmas it'll be for this gun and bible clinging redneck.
9. Posted by the terminator | October 24, 2008 8:24 PM |
Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 20:24
10. Posted by GM Cassel AMH1(AW) USN RET | October 24, 2008 8:40 PM | Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
Arms Control and Disarmament? The dirtbags better brush up on their firearms skills because they will definitely need them.
10. Posted by GM Cassel AMH1(AW) USN RET | October 24, 2008 8:40 PM |
Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 20:40
11. Posted by Falze | October 24, 2008 8:50 PM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
I'm thinking the Office of Arms Control and Disarmament is going to get along well with DOD.
11. Posted by Falze | October 24, 2008 8:50 PM |
Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 20:50
12. Posted by arcman
| October 24, 2008 9:03 PM | Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
What will actually happen GB is that 99% of conservatives and libertarians will continue to support him if he becomes president, as long as we can. We know that part of the reason he will have gotten elected is because of voter fraud (ACORN) campaign finance fraud, and the downright lies and deceit of the MSM. If the American people were told the truth about BHO, I doubt that the majority of Americans would be idiotic enough to elect him.
12. Posted by arcman
| October 24, 2008 9:03 PM |
Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 21:03
13. Posted by Jonathan | October 24, 2008 9:18 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Ye gods and little fishes. This is as if someone is reading any one of half a dozen dystopian novels as a flight plan instead of a warning.
13. Posted by Jonathan | October 24, 2008 9:18 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 21:18
14. Posted by DoninFla | October 24, 2008 9:26 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
#5 GB..."But please, let me help you guys. I will create some "He's not MY president" bumperstickers for you guys to show the world how petulant and bitter you will be for the next 4-8 years."
Oh, you mean like you ass wipes have been for the last 8 years. No Thanks...
14. Posted by DoninFla | October 24, 2008 9:26 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 21:26
15. Posted by Cato The Elder | October 24, 2008 9:35 PM | Score: -6 (8 votes cast)
HR 808 is a House Bill. Obama is in the Senate. This post is intended to be humorous and light and it achieves that but it is hardly as believable or successful as some of the material at the Onion. As satire or parody it falls short of the mark. I don't think Kucinich is presidential material either, as is the problem with Palin and even McCain. If current polling trends hold, the American people are going to overwhelmingly select Obama as the next chief exec. Calling the American people "stupid" because you disagree with such a huge majority of them sounds a bit like sour grapes and poor sportsmanship. To claim that truth about Obama hasn't been reported makes you sound like a tin foil hat wearing truther. Maybe you could vote for Ron Paul.
15. Posted by Cato The Elder | October 24, 2008 9:35 PM |
Score: -6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 21:35
16. Posted by Herman | October 24, 2008 9:36 PM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
These wouldn't be the only new Departments. Remember that Obama is green-oriented and is anti-poverty.
16. Posted by Herman | October 24, 2008 9:36 PM |
Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 21:36
17. Posted by Oyster | October 24, 2008 9:36 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Yes, it's sponsored by Kucinich and has 70 co-sponsors; 69 Democrats and 1 Republican.
17. Posted by Oyster | October 24, 2008 9:36 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 21:36
18. Posted by Cato The Elder | October 24, 2008 9:54 PM | Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
Remember that Obama is green-oriented and is anti-poverty.
Who isn't anti-poverty, speaking of which, and responding to Oyster's reply to me on a previous thread, both Hayek and Milton Friedman were in favor of a basic income gaurantee for all citizens. We almost had it during the Nixon administration, but Friedman called it a negatiive income tax. It was just like the one shot stimulus package Bush sent taxpayers but would have been a regular payment to the poor.Were hayek and Milton Friedman socialists?
Yes, it's sponsored by Kucinich and has 70 co-sponsors; 69 Democrats and 1 Republican.
Who is the Republican, Oyster? Ron Paul?
I think many of you are going to be pleasantly surprised, if you would admit it, with Obama's tenure as chief exec.
18. Posted by Cato The Elder | October 24, 2008 9:54 PM |
Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 21:54
19. Posted by retired military | October 24, 2008 10:05 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
"Calling the American people "stupid" because you disagree with such a huge majority of them sounds a bit like sour grapes and poor sportsmanship"
Sorta like florida 2000 or Ohio 2004 right.
19. Posted by retired military | October 24, 2008 10:05 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 22:05
20. Posted by Pax | October 24, 2008 10:06 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
To those that read it as last year, take a look at the sponsoers - and the dates - as recent as July 2008.
It would be nice to know what the real current status is of this bill in committee? Has there been any discussion and is it scheduled for any further review? Or will it be abandoned with the new term?
20. Posted by Pax | October 24, 2008 10:06 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 22:06
21. Posted by Cato The Elder | October 24, 2008 10:15 PM | Score: -13 (13 votes cast)
Sorta like florida 2000 or Ohio 2004 right.
Despite George Bush's claim of a "mandate" in 2004, it was anything but. It was barely a a majority by popular votes and the EV was close as well. You can fact check all that. He was selected by the SCOTUS in 2000 because it was so close. You can fact check that. Depending on who you ask, Gore won Florida, and by dint of that, the electoral votes required for election. This isn't going to be close by any definition of the term. You can look at the electoral map now and see that the Obama landslide is so massive that the usual Republican voter suppression tactics won't have any effect. McCain barely has 170 solid EVs. He needs 269. It was a very poorly run campaign. Politics is war carried on by other means. You lost. You can do one of two things. Catch up with the times, or dig your heels in an remain in the political wilderness for the next 50 to 60 years. You and I will both be dead by then but it's still a marginally free country. You can do what you like. If being on the political fringe suits you, remain there. In this case the fringe that is out of favor for the times.
21. Posted by Cato The Elder | October 24, 2008 10:15 PM |
Score: -13 (13 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 22:15
22. Posted by Cato The Elder | October 24, 2008 10:19 PM | Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
Or will it be abandoned with the new term?
It's a House Bill. It remains in the House in bill limbo because only 70 crazy people support it. The House is not the Senate. You people actually think that one of Kookcinich's experiments in pandering to the left has any chance of becoming law? The House id full of kooks. Fewer kooks in the Senate, but they are all Republicans.
22. Posted by Cato The Elder | October 24, 2008 10:19 PM |
Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 22:19
23. Posted by jhow66 | October 24, 2008 10:26 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Hey GB will you be over your "BDS" by then? Shitface.
23. Posted by jhow66 | October 24, 2008 10:26 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 22:26
24. Posted by Cato The Elder | October 24, 2008 10:36 PM | Score: -4 (6 votes cast)
And honestly, considering the current administration's arguments and pretexts for the disastrous invasion of Iraq, I don't see how anyone anywhere can object to either of these.
# Office of Arms Control and Disarmament
...
# Office of Human Rights and Economic Rights
If someone can explain that disconnect to me, I'd like to hear it. Personally, I think conflict is ubiquitous so while I'm not opposed to such entities, and would like to see the DoD focus more on defense than projecting American military power all over the globe when it is unwise and unwelcome, I'm not about to do away with the DoD or the second amendment, and neither is Obama.
That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.
George Orwell
The Constitution of the United States guarantees to you the right to bear arms... You have the unquestioned right, under the law, to defend your life and protect the sanctity of your fireside. Failing in either, you are a coward and a craven and undeserving of the name of man.
Eugene V. Debs
Both Orwell and Debs were socialists, by the way.
24. Posted by Cato The Elder | October 24, 2008 10:36 PM |
Score: -4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 22:36
25. Posted by jpe | October 24, 2008 10:50 PM | Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
If being retarded is part of the "Wizbang" brand, then by all means keep Ms. Priestap. You should get rid of the other bloggers, though, because their non-retardation kind of dilutes the brand.
25. Posted by jpe | October 24, 2008 10:50 PM |
Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 22:50
26. Posted by Cato the Elder | October 24, 2008 10:58 PM | Score: -4 (4 votes cast)
Hey GB will you be over your "BDS" by then?
The Founders had actually intended to design a system without political parties and factions like those they had seen tearing Europe apart in their day. The "best laid plans" and all that. Two political parties, rather than many, grew spontaneously and became dominant as a result of our single member district plurality and winner take all electoral system. The law of unintended consequences, whatever. In any case, both sides seem to have this "syndrome." You "loved" Clinton, right? In any case, Bush is almost gone and I see no point in dwelling on what will soon be considered by historians as the worst president in American history. On the other hand, some on the right will be trying to cast Obama as a failure, and actively wanting and hoping he fails. Not very "American," is it? And it is certainly some kind of derangement, wouldn't you agree?
26. Posted by Cato the Elder | October 24, 2008 10:58 PM |
Score: -4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 22:58
27. Posted by DoninFla | October 24, 2008 11:18 PM | Score: -3 (7 votes cast)
I repeat...the same crap you ass wipes have been peddling for the last 8 years...It works both ways...
27. Posted by DoninFla | October 24, 2008 11:18 PM |
Score: -3 (7 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 23:18
28. Posted by RicardoVerde | October 24, 2008 11:54 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
I don't remember Bush declaring a mandate after either election. They were very close votes. This election should be a close vote as well. "National" polls mean nothing. A candidate must win states. Having an extra 2 or 3 million votes in New York or California gets a candidate no more than a thousand vote lead in the same states.
And I'm not so sure that Friedman wanted a negative income tax. He just preferred it to government programs that are much less efficient at delivering aid to the poor. If we double what we spend on the poor we will still have poor people.
28. Posted by RicardoVerde | October 24, 2008 11:54 PM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on October 24, 2008 23:54
29. Posted by Cato the Elder | October 25, 2008 3:58 AM | Score: -5 (7 votes cast)
I don't remember Bush declaring a mandate after either election.
Bush claims mandate, sets 2nd-term goals
'I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it'
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/11/05/MNGOF9MKHV1.DTL
I give up. Low information voters and fools. Idiots.
You lost. Thank God.
29. Posted by Cato the Elder | October 25, 2008 3:58 AM |
Score: -5 (7 votes cast)
Posted on October 25, 2008 03:58
30. Posted by JLawson | October 25, 2008 4:02 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Cato -
You sound so reasonable, so... compassionate. But where has your compassion been for Bush? Where has the left been supporting Bush, instead of tearing him down every possible way? You ask for support for Obama - I think a lot of people on the right are going to be just as supportive as the left have been for Bush the last 8 years.
May I remind you - and the readership here at large - that Teleprompter-Boy hasn't been ELECTED yet, DESPITE the best efforts of the voter-fraud promoting left? We still have a full-bore election coming up, and the poll numbers have been 'adjusted' more times than a WinXP service pack - and it's the voter decides on the 4th of November who the President will be, not Gallup.
30. Posted by JLawson | October 25, 2008 4:02 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 25, 2008 04:02
31. Posted by Cato the Elder | October 25, 2008 8:15 AM | Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
I think a lot of people on the right are going to be just as supportive as the left have been for Bush the last 8 years.
Considering so many conservatives and Republicans and former Republicans have come out to endorse Obama, I think you may be right.
Bush had his chance to be a great statesman and President. He blew it. It may not haave been all his fault but ultimately and finally the buck does stop there.
And no, I'm not compassionate and reasonable. I don't need to be. It's your turn. Try it if you can.
31. Posted by Cato the Elder | October 25, 2008 8:15 AM |
Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on October 25, 2008 08:15
32. Posted by OregonMuse | October 25, 2008 12:20 PM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
No, he didn't. Please show us an actual vote count wherein more actual votes went to Gore than to Bush. And by actual, I don't mean one of those hypothetical counting scenarios constructed according to liberal fantasies.
Otherwise, stop indulging your mythology.
32. Posted by OregonMuse | October 25, 2008 12:20 PM |
Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on October 25, 2008 12:20
33. Posted by John F Not Kerry | October 25, 2008 1:18 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Bill Clinton claimed a mandate after winning 43% in 1992! (after promising a middle class tax cut, which he regretfully had to renege on because it just wasn't the right time) Did you forget that? Bush won over 51% in 1994 to Kerry's 48%, a virtual landslide compared to all the other elections since 1988.
My nomination for a new cabinet level position:
Secretary of The Department of Appeasing Every Foreign Country Who Threatens Us or Our Allies We Have Signed Treaties With
33. Posted by John F Not Kerry | October 25, 2008 1:18 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on October 25, 2008 13:18
34. Posted by Oyster | October 25, 2008 1:38 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Cato, your immediate snide remark about Ron Paul probably being the only Republican co-sponsor, without even bothering to check, leads one to wonder whether any other of your interpretations or versions of the past have any real basis in any desire to be honest or truthful.
That you would use clipped words ("basic income gaurantee(sic) for all citizens") of certain icons to bolster your argument about the redistribution of wealth means little to nothing.
If, in your world, Jefferson would approve of ever expanding entitlements, ie. government handouts to the middle class, then there's no use in arguing with you.
You didn't address anything I said. All you did was repeat a mantra of daring anyone to call Jefferson, Hayek, or whomever, a socialist based on your interpretations of their words or beliefs. Not only do you insult our intelligence, you then declare yourself to possess the superior intellect.
I have nothing further to say to you. It's pointless as you continue to ignore valid points.
34. Posted by Oyster | October 25, 2008 1:38 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on October 25, 2008 13:38
35. Posted by WildWillie | October 25, 2008 2:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I eaned some capital and intend to use it and the liberal whacko liar uses that to prove GW said he had a mandate. Is it any clearer the left are nuts? ww
35. Posted by WildWillie | October 25, 2008 2:49 PM |
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Posted on October 25, 2008 14:49
36. Posted by marc | October 25, 2008 4:28 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Cato the Elder - "I give up. Low information voters and fools. Idiots."
Low information voters? Or just how you parse the subject?
As someone pointed out Clinton claimed a "mandate" with only 43% of the vote.
Your link, although rightfully pointing out Bush won by 3.5 million votes and that he did say "I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it," nowhere is the implication he used the term "mandate." That comes from the authors, and obviously, your thoughts on the matter.
However, what is fact, Bush gathered 51% of the vote as opposed to Kerry's 48%.
If you hadn't noticed, that's a majority, a plurality. And I dare say a mandate.
But I suspect you won't see it that way, just as you would never admit Bush did in fact, by three recounts done by three separate sources, confirm he won Fla by a total of 537 votes.
36. Posted by marc | October 25, 2008 4:28 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on October 25, 2008 16:28
37. Posted by Me | October 26, 2008 12:12 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
The 537 votes he won Florida by, incidentally, did not include the military vote that was suppressed by who? The DEMS!! The same party that is actively working to suppress the military vote again this year.
37. Posted by Me | October 26, 2008 12:12 AM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on October 26, 2008 00:12
38. Posted by Thomas Jackson | October 26, 2008 12:45 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The heck with this I want the news on the Ministry of Love headed by Rev Wright and the Ministry of Truth headed by Bill Ayers.
38. Posted by Thomas Jackson | October 26, 2008 12:45 AM |
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Posted on October 26, 2008 00:45
39. Posted by Anthony | October 26, 2008 9:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Maybe GB -- but I think you will be hard pressed to find conservatives and liobertarians with the assassination porn that the left has printed out over the last 8 years.
And with respect to all the Orwell quotes, remember -- "Oldthinkers Unbellyfeel Ingsoc"
39. Posted by Anthony | October 26, 2008 9:57 PM |
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Posted on October 26, 2008 21:57