You have to read the posts by John Hawkins and Ace to find out what that means because I am in a bit of a hurry right now. Oh, okay, I'll give you a bit of it. John and Ace are talking about recruiting conservative candidates from the grassroots -- business people, doctors, plumbers, retired military, etc. Read the posts to find out why the GOP needs to do more of this.
Update: One effect of the candidacy of Sarah Palin is likely to be others without political background or connections seeing they can make a difference as well. From Kat at Argghhh:
Blogging has given me some outlet to express opinions and share ideas with others, but impact or effect on actual political issues is unmeasurable. So, even having become somewhat of a political junky, I still did not imagine that your average citizen had real capability to change things or have a voice besides the ballot box.What changed my opinion about my place in politics? Sarah Palin...
It is her personal story along with her political views and the drive to "do something about it". She started out in the PTA, went to the city council, became mayor, voted in as governor and now on the national stage as the VP candidate. People can quibble about how and why she ended up on the national level, but I think she would have ended up there eventually. That last part is just icing on the cake. The important part of the story is that she was just a regular citizen with few political connections and little monetary backing who got into politics because she wanted to change things.
Comments (26)
anyone?... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Dave W. | October 28, 2008 8:11 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
anyone?
1. Posted by Dave W. | October 28, 2008 8:11 PM |
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Posted on October 28, 2008 20:11
2. Posted by Dave W. | October 28, 2008 8:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
http://raglinen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/chi_trib_11_3_1948mh.jpg
was supposed to be there
2. Posted by Dave W. | October 28, 2008 8:11 PM |
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Posted on October 28, 2008 20:11
3. Posted by Mikee | October 28, 2008 8:46 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
So if I am a successful doctor or engineer, I should drop my career to enter politics - where the petty, irrational, and selfish of the country attempt to redistribute the wealth created by those in my former professions. Sounds like a real winner of a job change, there.
3. Posted by Mikee | October 28, 2008 8:46 PM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on October 28, 2008 20:46
4. Posted by dr lava | October 28, 2008 8:54 PM | Score: -14 (18 votes cast)
Believe me, and I have been correct about the death of the "conservative" movement since its demise began in 2005, if you guys continue to praise the mental mediocrity of nit-wits like Palin and Joe the Plumber and elevating mental malaise to leadership roles, you are doomed.
The era of the half-wit, the dim-wit, the LIV, the rube, the boeotian, the flag pinned micro-cephalic that the far-right praise as REAL Americans will be an embarrassing footnote in American history.
David Brooks column a few weeks ago spelled it out perfectly, there is now a civil war in the Republican Party. Dobson vs Will.
4. Posted by dr lava | October 28, 2008 8:54 PM |
Score: -14 (18 votes cast)
Posted on October 28, 2008 20:54
5. Posted by rockdalian | October 28, 2008 9:10 PM | Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
dr lava,
You know Palin is a nitwit how?
Did you have actual conversations with her?
Or are you relying on the media interpretation of her?
You can judge others by what the media is willing to show you?
Oh,and I would not believe you on anything. I prefer to make my own judgments.
Obama would be proud of you.
5. Posted by rockdalian | October 28, 2008 9:10 PM |
Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on October 28, 2008 21:10
6. Posted by Huan | October 28, 2008 9:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
i am probably eligible based on what you posted
6. Posted by Huan | October 28, 2008 9:18 PM |
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Posted on October 28, 2008 21:18
7. Posted by Don | October 28, 2008 9:20 PM | Score: 3 (7 votes cast)
Liberals are born leaders. Like Dr Lava, they have a superiority complex and think that they are smarter than everyone else, which creates the delusional tendency to think that they can lead. Plus, they like congregating with others who are equally petty, irrational and selfish. It's easy to find potential politicians from liberals because they all think they're so smart that they can be the boss of anybody.
Conservatives realize that there are important things in life like life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. They run businesses. They raise a family. They don't think that they're smarter than their neighbor. They don't have self-esteem issues in need of a boost. They have no need to hear from others how "above average" they and their children are. They have no lust for power.
Why would anybody want to run for office and be subjected to the likes of Dr Lava, who, in his acid-tongued diatribe, reminds us who is truly compassionate and who is not.
7. Posted by Don | October 28, 2008 9:20 PM |
Score: 3 (7 votes cast)
Posted on October 28, 2008 21:20
8. Posted by junyo
| October 28, 2008 9:26 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Amazing how an Internet connection qualifies so many people to call a sitting governor with an 80% higher approval rating a nitwit.
8. Posted by junyo
| October 28, 2008 9:26 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on October 28, 2008 21:26
9. Posted by geokstr | October 28, 2008 9:30 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Don:
"Why would anybody want to run for office and be subjected to the likes of Dr Lava...(?)"
Because if we don't, they will continue to erode our liberties and take ever and ever larger shares of our earnings. Either we fight back or they win by default.
9. Posted by geokstr | October 28, 2008 9:30 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on October 28, 2008 21:30
10. Posted by epador | October 28, 2008 9:44 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Bill Frist, MD, anyone?
10. Posted by epador | October 28, 2008 9:44 PM |
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Posted on October 28, 2008 21:44
11. Posted by Mike S | October 28, 2008 9:52 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
I know there are probably unintended consequences but if we pass a constitutional amendment for term limits would many of the problems associated with incumbency, e.g. graft, corruption and character assassination not to mention less polarization, be lessened? I would suggest 2 terms for congressmen and 1 for senators. My dad God rest his soul wanted to limit the legislative sessions (less time to do mischief) and make it mandatory that the elected official had a real job. In Va we occasionally go through hysterics about allowing our governors a second term. So far those attempts have been limited to rhetoric. I believe we still have to balance our state budget each year and we continue to be one of two states with the highest bond ratings. By the way we did elect who I consider the first and most successful
black governor, Douglas Wilder. He served during a severe recession and made the best hard choices of any governor in my lifetime. Gilmore fulfilled his promise to cut our taxes and despite what the Warner supporters would have you believe Warner was a tax and spender.
11. Posted by Mike S | October 28, 2008 9:52 PM |
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Posted on October 28, 2008 21:52
12. Posted by Adrian Browne | October 28, 2008 9:53 PM | Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
Drudge Headline November 5th:
Vince McMahon offers Palin a multi-million contract to become a professional wrestler.
12. Posted by Adrian Browne | October 28, 2008 9:53 PM |
Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on October 28, 2008 21:53
13. Posted by Larry | October 28, 2008 10:39 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Wilder did a pretty good job Mike. So has Ed Rendell up in Pennsylvania, my favorite Democrat. Rendell is a master at daming with faint praise. Just listen to him talk about Obama - I have to laugh.
Now, on finding grassroots candidates. Wow, what a task. With the orientation of MSM, most just say forgetaboutit. After the ruthless hatchet job on Palin and Joe, who on earth would want to put themselves up on a cross?
Way back when, I worked for a guy named John Tower - yea, that one. I was based in Texas, never went to Washington where the big boys played. Later on, I did some lobbying in Louisiana. Finding someone besides a Lawyer, who loses nothing by running, is really, really hard, at least to find credible candidates.
That doesn't mean don't try.
13. Posted by Larry | October 28, 2008 10:39 PM |
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Posted on October 28, 2008 22:39
14. Posted by Jim Ryan | October 28, 2008 10:47 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Dr Lava, someone with the executive talent and sheer brain-power to run a state, today promises that his three-year-old prediction of something-or-other will come true! Dr Lava! Step right up for the next lecture by Dr Lava!
Everyone get your notebooks and be ready to record Dr Lava's every word, as he pronounces the most popular governor in the country an idiot! Step right up folks! Dr Lava!
14. Posted by Jim Ryan | October 28, 2008 10:47 PM |
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Posted on October 28, 2008 22:47
15. Posted by Hestrold | October 28, 2008 11:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Uh, then there is this --> http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/mccains-pollster-foresees-tight-race-on-election-night-2008-10-28.html
15. Posted by Hestrold | October 28, 2008 11:04 PM |
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Posted on October 28, 2008 23:04
16. Posted by Vinny | October 29, 2008 12:37 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
just went to the Mccain rally in Fayeteville.........It was a full house at the crown coliseum, this is the first time that I seen the crown colliseum so packed !!!
16. Posted by Vinny | October 29, 2008 12:37 AM |
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Posted on October 29, 2008 00:37
17. Posted by Steve Poling
| October 29, 2008 12:56 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
One thing that bothered me back in 2000 was that Republicans got the mistaken impression that a fellow promising a new prescription entitlement who also let Ted Kennedy write his Education policy was a Conservative. We've had no movement Conservative in leadership in Washington and the brand was corrupted by free-spenders who called themselves Conservatives while DEMOCRATS pointed out their spendthrift ways.
Sarah Palin seems to be the poster-girl for a reversal of this. Conservatives have to renegotiate their relationship with the Republican party. It's not that the tent should be made smaller, but that the Conservatives not be confused with the Moderates in this tent.
We want the Republican party to be a majority ruling party, but this should be accomplished by persuading Democrats and Independents to become more conservative, NOT by compromising conservative principles.
17. Posted by Steve Poling
| October 29, 2008 12:56 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on October 29, 2008 00:56
18. Posted by julia | October 29, 2008 3:11 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
I'm an atheist. I always enjoy Hitchens and Buckly.
But come on, guys.
Hey, Christopher Hitchens!
Isaac Newton was a bigger, retro-paleo-eschatological-bible thumper than Palin. His theories on the end-of-times is a wack job.
What do you really think of GRAVITY now? Huh?
Lighten up, elitists.
What good is all that Ivy League education if you throw all the babies out with the bathwater?
Some REAL leaders are grounded by reality (ever have a baby, boys?), and only buoyed by faith.
Intellectuals, these days are just grounded--and boring--and afraid of women.
18. Posted by julia | October 29, 2008 3:11 AM |
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Posted on October 29, 2008 03:11
19. Posted by starkman | October 29, 2008 5:51 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Julia said it perfectly "leaders are grounded by reality and only buoyed by faith".
I love it! Succinct and accurate.
If you don't mind, I'm going to use that expression in future commentary.
19. Posted by starkman | October 29, 2008 5:51 AM |
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Posted on October 29, 2008 05:51
20. Posted by Ridge Runner | October 29, 2008 6:16 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Former editor-in-chief of "Ms." magazine reports on her first-hand exposure to Sarah Palin
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-27/sarah-palins-a-brainiac/1/
It's difficult not to froth when one reads, as I did again and again this week, doubts about Sarah Palin's "intelligence," coming especially from women such as PBS's Bonnie Erbe, who, as near as I recall, has not herself heretofore been burdened with the Susan Sontag of Journalism moniker. As Fred Barnes--God help me, I'm agreeing with Fred Barnes--suggests in the Weekly Standard, these high toned and authoritative dismissals come from people who have never met or spoken with Sarah Palin. Those who know her, love her or hate her, offer no such criticism. They know what I know, and I learned it from spending just a little time traveling on the cramped campaign plane this week: Sarah Palin is very smart.
Now by "smart," I don't refer to a person who is wily or calculating or nimble in the way of certain talented athletes who we admire but suspect don't really have serious brains in their skulls. I mean, instead, a mind that is thoughtful, curious, with a discernable pattern of associative thinking and insight. Palin asks questions, and probes linkages and logic that bring to mind a quirky law professor I once had. Palin is more than a "quick study"; I'd heard rumors around the campaign of her photographic memory and, frankly, I watched it in action. She sees. She processes. She questions, and only then, she acts. What is often called her "confidence" is actually a rarity in national politics: I saw a woman who knows exactly who she is.
[much more at the link]
20. Posted by Ridge Runner | October 29, 2008 6:16 AM |
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Posted on October 29, 2008 06:16
21. Posted by dr lava | October 29, 2008 6:35 AM | Score: -4 (4 votes cast)
There are many insights into Palin that reveal what an incredible dim-wit she is but nothing more so than the ultra- revealing line in her speech the other day about "fruit fly research in France". If you heard the speech and didn't explode in incredulity.......well then Sarah is yer gal.
Imagine growing up in a place where "I can see Russia from there", living your whole life that close to a place so full of history and architecture and people and food, and never once being curious enough to get a passport and visit the place.
That is a quality you want in a national leader?
21. Posted by dr lava | October 29, 2008 6:35 AM |
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Posted on October 29, 2008 06:35
22. Posted by Foamer | October 29, 2008 10:17 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You do realize it was Tina Fey who made the "I can see Russia..." line, and not Sarah Palin?
22. Posted by Foamer | October 29, 2008 10:17 AM |
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Posted on October 29, 2008 10:17
23. Posted by Candide | October 29, 2008 11:08 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
'dr lava' said about Russia, "...a place so full of history and architecture and people and food..."
We can quibble about history and architecture, but Russia is certainly short of people and not so much full of food...
23. Posted by Candide | October 29, 2008 11:08 AM |
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Posted on October 29, 2008 11:08
24. Posted by Big Mike | October 29, 2008 11:12 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Mikee, I faced the same issue you allude to, and I decided to get involved because who wants a government run exclusively by lawyers? Yeah, it's a nasty, petty business, and actually building something is much more intellectually satisfying. And who wants to put up with sniping by the "Dr. Lava's" of the world? But if you don't get involved then you can't complain.
As for you, Dr. Lava, please just grow up. I don't personally know Sarah Palin but people I know and who've met her describe a very different woman from the picture Democrats paint. People whose views are different than yours are not necessarily less intelligent than you. Just, probably, less arrogant and certainly less nasty.
24. Posted by Big Mike | October 29, 2008 11:12 AM |
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Posted on October 29, 2008 11:12
25. Posted by Dr. Java | October 29, 2008 2:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I must apologize for my dimwitted brother who goes by the name Dr. Lava. We try to keep him off the internet--in fact there is a judge's order to that effect due to his habit of lewd conduct toward underage bloggers in chat rooms.
Until we find a way to make him take his medicine every day, just ignore what he says. Don't feed the trolls.
25. Posted by Dr. Java | October 29, 2008 2:14 PM |
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Posted on October 29, 2008 14:14
26. Posted by Christopher Van | October 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
America Deserves the Truth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pnRN0KBHuc
26. Posted by Christopher Van | October 29, 2008 2:53 PM |
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Posted on October 29, 2008 14:53