The largest amount of fraud in this election cycle has been committed by the Lame Stream Media while they are drawing their death breath. I stopped at a sisters this evening and they were watching CNN. I ask what they had said about Hussein O's vow to bankrupt 50% of the american power production facilities. They thought I was crazy since they had not heard one word about it from any of the crazies on CNN.
Most people with cable/satelite TV have a thing called parental control to block their children from watching porn on the big three. I suggest you use it to block the anti-american propaganda outlets, CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC from your home. When it ask for a password, turn your head and hit some keys. That way no one including yourself can unlock the propaganda outlets.

I guess if you're willing to vote for the destruction to be brought on by Hussein then you are willing/volunteering to pay a 500% increase in all of your utilities. Guess i'll just shut down all but two rooms in my home and heat/cook with wood/coal which I can get free from our own land.

I wouldn't say the dirtiest, either. Maybe the most blatantly farcical. It's become a media event of fundraisers emotional bias. Probably someone's "brainstorm" of the biggest reality show in history to hit the airwaves.

Typical behavior from the left. ww

Ha ha, well, at least you admitted your beloved GOP is going to be relegated to the dustbin.

Now I can't wait to read all the wingnut blogs for the next few weeks, and all their dimestore excuses as to why their candidate lost.

I can save you the time, ok?

McCain lost because he was a terrible candidate who ran a terrible campaign who picked the single worst running mate in recent memory, and the voters rejected him and voted for Obama.

There. Nice and simple isn't it?

But for you conspiracy nutters here, please, go ahead and write your ridiculous diaries with all these unfounded, unproven accusations and paranoid fringe thinking. Don't consider the obvious, ok? I know you can do better.

Excellent point Jay

The credit card scam is so ironic given that Senator MBNA is on the ticket. But the sheer brazenness of the scheme is breathtaking.

All of these credit card transactions are easily discoverable in litigation and the Republican Party better have the guts to do the right thing and demand that the books of both campaigns be opened and examined.

This won't require some five year FEC investigative process typical of the adjudication of most election law violations.

It can be done now with existing software. The following is very informative. Scroll to point #10 in the link below:

http://obamashrugged.com/?p=187

One commenter illustrated the hypocrisy going on here: if the NRA was conducting a fundraising campaign in this manner there would be hell to pay.

When are Republicans going to start playing hardball? This credit card scam is the perfect place to start.

Share this radio show with all the independent and undecided voters as it is aimed towards them. This radio show is about what is truly at stake in this election, and what we are TRULY voting for. It's very surprising.

http://tinyurl.com/5znubc

AP Warns : McCain Could Win Electoral College

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/mccain_electoral_college/2008/11/03/147235.html?promo_code=2A89-1

Voter fraud is nothing new, that's for sure. But Obama will win tomorrow for another reason -- a majority of Americans are just ready to give European-style socialism a try. With personal responsibility now considered passe, may as well eliminate personal initiative too. My hope is that there will be an awakening in 2010 like the one in 1994 after Clinton's first two years in office. Until then, I'll just cling to my guns and religion and hunker down.

"Necro-Americans" or "life-impaired"?

I thought the proper term was 'metabolically challenged'.

Jim - the A-friggin'-P thinks McCain could win the EC vote?

Then they must have serious evidence, enough to override their Obama worship... Makes you wonder what they've seen that they haven't bothered to share.

NObama has open a new chapter in corrupt Chicago politics, and that is saying something.

"Makes you wonder what they've seen that they haven't bothered to share."

What everyone has known all along, but were either too angry at the GOP or too blinded by the obvious "Hope" and "Change" meme to concur with.

JLawson, I couldn't agree with you more.

Welcome to Chicago, "the city that works" for a few connected Democrats.

We should all take a moment of silence and pray. Obama's grandmother passed away. Please show your respect.

"Fraud" certainly seems to be the watchword of this election cycle. At least, it ought to be.

Well, Jay, you're certainly doing everything you can to make it so. How many pieces have you written about about ACORN and fraud? And then "I keep hearing how this is 'the dirtiest' election in history, and I've scoffed"... you really wrote that with a straight face?

But I'm starting to wonder if the folks who've been saying so might be on to something. Someday, the 2008 presidential election might be known as "the most fraudulent election in American history."

Nope, nope, and nope.

But hey, if the dire predictions about voter fraud ain't real, just fake it.

brian,

When JT makes a statement of fact he gives concrete examples. When you dispute him you merely give your opinion for you have no facts.

I am quite sure that I am not the only person here at Wizbang praying that the end of this election cycle might clear the board of the alien imbecility so ably presented by you and your ilk.

Stealing elections is a time honored tactic in most parts of the world, including right here in the U S of A. Some politicians will do it while others turn a blind eye. Still others, I am not at all sure I know the percentage, reject help from those who have no right to vote - or at least not multiple times.

For some odd reason charismatic politicians seem to breed the "By hook or crook" mentality in their acolytes. I dunno why.

Anyway, Obama got his start in politics by hiring a guy to disqualify his opponents. This was real cute on his part as it was not common practice. Sure worked though.

If anybody believes that ACORN is an innocent victim of its worker bees and management walks around with a halo, welcome to real politik as practiced by hypocrites.

I will be encouraging the Republican candidate in 2012 to raise ONE BILLION dollars...and re-purchase the White House!

Then, of course, the Lame Stream Media will be OUTRAGED!!! and DEMAND WE GET THE MONEY OUT OF POLITICS!!!

In fact, I will only work FOR and monetarily SUPPORT a Republican who absolutely VOWS TO OUTSPEND THE DEMOCRATS!

Obama, in his bald-faced LIE to the American people about "accepting public financing" drove a STAKE THROUGH THE HEART OF CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM...GOOD!!

And "dirty tricks"?? Outright FRAUD? Smears, lies, etc???

If the Dems and the media are going to ACCUSE the Republicans of doing all that...LET'S DO IT!!

Not kiddin', folks...the "rules" of this game have been spelled out and demonstrated by Obama.

GAME ON!

join us at BeJohnGalt

The reason you guys are failing now and tomorrow you will witness the final nail being driven into the coffin of the "conservative" movement is your absolute inability to self criticize and correct.

You fail to see, EVEN NOW, the massive repudiation of conservatism. The social conservatives and other like minded cretins are going to take the GOP even further to the right and directly into the dustbin of other failed political experiments. My hope is that Palin and Joe the plumber remain the iconic and ideal conservative archetype. Instead of trying to figure out what went wrong on November 4th just rent the movie "Idiocracy" . It explains the inanity of conservatism in a way even a red-stater could understand.

Brian

Certainly, then, you would have no problem with a thorough audit of both campaigns' online fund raising methods and results. Post haste. There is abundant evidence online that is easily traceable. You would agree to hold both campaigns to an equal standard, correct? Then let's start with fraud in the inducement and go from there.

But, as any prosecutor will by habit do, let's not ignore the low hanging fruit....the blatantly fraudulent registrations and votes cast by Obama's 13 staffers mentioned in Jay's post? They should be prosecuted for the Federal crimes that they committed, correct?

The social conservatives and other like minded cretins are going to take the GOP even further to the right and directly into the dustbin of other failed political experiments.

lava
Are you quoting Reagan or Trotsky...or do you know the difference?

Justrand -

You're making two assumptions that have yet to be proven -

One - that Obama won't come up with some way he can declare himself 'President For Life'. Hey, if the far left can go nuts over such a possibility with Bush, I think it only fair we bring it up about Obama. It will be, of course, the 'sensible' thing to do after the Dems FUBAR the economy, gut the military, and turn us into a third-world dictatorship through voter fraud and a general destruction of trust in the election process.

And two - that a billion would buy more than about three burgers and fries. The way Obama's got to inflate the money supply, we could end up with an inflation rate kind of like Zimbabwe - around 2,000,000% per year.

But hey, if my wages keep up, I'll be able to pay off the house fairly easily. I'll just pull out a $100 Billion bill, and tell 'em to keep the change...

The biggest fraud has been going on for the last eight years. Republicans have fraudulently promised small government, fiscal responsibility, and increased liberty. WE GOT NONE OF THAT. Liars and scoundrels.

Sen. McSame voted to allow the federal govt. to use 700 Billion of your hard earned cash to nationalize banks. That is Republican sponsored socialism, my friends.

Don't let party loyalty blind you to the truth while all around you the smart ones make their way to the exits.

It's a sad day alright. The GOP has lost its way. Vote them out!

godblessAmerica

Sen. McSame voted to allow the federal govt. to use 700 Billion of your hard earned cash to nationalize banks. That is Republican sponsored socialism, my friends.

That was Democrat sponsored legislation. Own it. Defend it. Pelosi and Reid brought that legislation to the floor, not John MCcain.

However, you raise an interesting point regarding leadership. Unwise or not, at least McCain had the guts to show up first and get invloved in the process while Obama had his wet finger in the wind.

dr lava: "failed political experiments"???

Which ones would THOSE be??

Traditional marriage? Only been around for 5,000 years or so. Yes, some cultures permitted "plural marriages"...but same-sex marriages? A true "experiment"

Faith in God? Been around even LONGER!! Yes, some cultures FORBID faith!! The Soviet Union comes to mind. How's THAT "experiment" working out?? (beyond Obama's attempt to resurrect it, of course)

Peace through STENGTH? [see: Chamberlain, Neville]

Capitalism versus Communism? I think I covered that TWICE above!!!

"experiment"??? The American "experiment" has been ongoing since 1776 (before, actually).
In 1838 a gangly young man in Springfield, Illinois foretold how it would end...indeed, described the ONLY way it COULD end.

"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

It's time to dance, folks!

HughS (more lies)-

I am no Democrat. And, I know horse-crap when I see it. The $700 Billion plan was the White House plan, proposed and pushed by (Republican) President Bush and his Treasury Secretary. Nobody put a gun to McCain's head and forced him to vote for the thing. McCain showed his true colors and they are socialist blue.

No more wolves in sheep's clothing. No more party-first lies. We need new leadership. Fiscally conservative, willing to put neo-cons in their place, and willing to protect the liberty of Americans first.

dr. lava,

You really need to expand your library beyond Think Progress, before you know it, you'll start living like The Uni-bomber.

Jay, I find it hard that you would say that Acorn registered voters. That is a damn lie. The state electoral board, in every state, registers the voters. Right or wrong?

Yes, Acorn went around getting people to fill out voter registration forms, but Acorn cannot, by law, and has not (prove they have) certified any registered voter. The Sec of State does that. And if some idiot puts down his name as Mickey Mouse, he will not be able to vote unless he can positively prove that is really his real name. Plus by state law, every voter registered card has to be turned in to the Sec of States office (voter registration dept}, and Acorn has marked many of those cards as being questionably being wrong.

Why don't you mention that Jay? Quit the BS and playing up to your little base. Just tell the truth and let everyone reading this blog make up their own mind.

I expected better from you Jay, but then again,you refuse to even acknowledge that the GOP is kicking legal registered voters off the rolls. Care to explain that one, truthfully?

godblessAmerica

Sen. McSame voted to allow the federal govt. to use 700 Billion of your hard earned cash to nationalize banks. That is Republican sponsored socialism, my friends.

I do not recall Obama being against the vote. Obama has shown
He will decrease spending on the military
Spend Trillions more
Roll Back the Bush Tax cuts and increase Taxes on the poor by 5%
Increase taxes on anyone making 43K by 13%
Expand the role of the Federal Government with Projects like the Civilian Security force
use Cap and trade to bankrupt American industry.

The answer to Liberal Republicans is not to elect Marxist Democrats it to elect conservative republicans.

The good news is that many of the RHINO have come out into the light .
McCain is by no means the poster child for Conservatives but at least with him in power we can hold back some of the worst changes.

godblessAmerica

The $700 Billion plan was the White House plan, proposed and pushed by (Republican) President Bush and his Treasury Secretary.

If you are no Democrat then you need to get your talking points striaght.

1) The Democrats control Congress.
2) The Treasury Sec has no magical power over Congress.
3) Bush is a lame duck President.
4) The Democrats control Congress.

So, no more party first lies. The Democrats control Congress. Repeat it. Let that fact sink in.

Then learn what a wolf looks like. Here's a hint: Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. They are Democrats. The Democrats control Congress.

Allen says,

Yes, Acorn went around getting people to fill out voter registration forms, but Acorn cannot, by law, and has not (prove they have) certified any registered voter.

Allen, it's called, amongst other Federal crimes, fraud in the inducement. Hell, I'm no prosecutor, but I can think of all sorts of charges: conspiracy, RICCO, wire fraud, and mail fraud.

Boy, the trolls are certainly prepping the battlefield tonight.

When JT makes a statement of fact he gives concrete examples. When you dispute him you merely give your opinion for you have no facts.

So three links to statements by Republicans is "my opinion" with "no facts"?

I am quite sure that I am not the only person here at Wizbang praying that the end of this election cycle might clear the board of the alien imbecility so ably presented by you and your ilk.

I'm quite sure that's true also. But perhaps when there are some more resources provided for improving education in the US, you and others may learn to recognize facts rather than repudiate everything based on partisanship alone.

Certainly, then, you would have no problem with a thorough audit of both campaigns' online fund raising methods and results.

No problem at all. Both camps would likely have some 'splaining to do. (And yes, I know that McCain has since returned that money.)

the blatantly fraudulent registrations and votes cast by Obama's 13 staffers mentioned in Jay's post? They should be prosecuted for the Federal crimes that they committed, correct?

If the DA feels they committed a crime, absolutely. But they hysteria the Republicans are raising over such cases is unwarranted:

For weeks, Republican leaders have warned that widely reported problems with fake voter registrations could result in a flood of phony votes in pivotal states.

But Ronald Michaelson, a veteran election administrator and member of the McCain-Palin Honest and Open Election Committee, said in an interview that he could not name a single instance in which this had occurred.

"Do we have a documented instance of voting fraud that resulted from a phony registration form? No, I can't cite one, chapter and verse," he said.

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Good point , Brian.

Given the information in your link, we know who the perps are.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/07/us/politics/07mccain.html

Now, to the perps in the Obama campaign. Any clues? Any links? Any evidence you have to help law enforcement?

BTW,

If the DA feels they committed a crime, absolutely. But they hysteria the Republicans are raising over such cases is unwarranted:

It's not unwarranted given the confessions already proffered by the Obama Ohio 13 ( this was all linked in Jay's original post), it's a Federal offense if the U S Attorney decides to get involved, so don't sweat the DA. But I suspect you aren't worrying about the U S Atty given the Clinton Doctrine of FIRING them all after taking the oath. (And yes, I know about Alberto Gonzales, so don't bother in this case). Clinton set the precedent.

prodigy - "McCain lost because he was a terrible candidate who ran a terrible campaign who picked the single worst running mate in recent memory, and the voters rejected him and voted for Obama."

And yet... obama by the majority of swing state polls are tied or within the margin or error.

What does that say about your candidate, one that out-spent McCain by and enormous amount.?

godblessAmerica - "I am no Democrat. And, I know horse-crap when I see it. The $700 Billion plan was the White House plan, proposed and pushed by (Republican) President Bush and his Treasury Secretary. Nobody put a gun to McCain's head and forced him to vote for the thing."

First off, shouldn't you have enough respect to capitalize America in your chosen moniker?

Secondly, who put a gun to Obama's head, he signed the same bill?

And finally, correct it was a Bush bill, funny how you ignore what happened to it once it arrived on the House floor. The Reps stripped it of cash going to the corupt ACORN among other little "goodies" that the Dems attempted to foist off on the taxpayer.

Hey marc -

Thanks for pointing out the truth about Pres. Bush having proposed and championed the Bailout bill. It is good to see honest folks here.

Um... the "A" in America in my name is capitalized. I had meant to capitalize the G too, but made a mistake and figured the big guy was the forgiving type.

Regarding Obama's vote for the bailout... this is my point exactly. Republicans and Democrats are pretty much the same thing. I have not bought into the "marxist" hype thrown at Obama. To me it is like the "he's an arab" hype... Baloney fabricated by liars to scare people enough so that our team beats their team.

Well I am ready for the United States of America to be united again. I don't want civil war with my fellow Americans. I want civil discourse. Tough and hard-hitting, but honest and true.

Sometimes that means standing firm for your values and voting against your party if the party has abandoned its values, which is why I am voting for Bob Barr.

Now, I know some folks here will want to go-off on me and say that I am stupid (I assure you that I am not). There may be knee-jerk reactions to call me names and post hate-filled replies. I can take it, but I pray for America's sake that we can get past that.

My prayers to you all. May God Bless You and May God Bless America.

Oh, and Hugh, I assume you agree that these people, hired directly by the Republican party, should also be prosecuted, correct?

"I expected better from you Jay,..."

Unfortunately, Allen, we expect no better from you.

Brian

By all means. Let's make this a bipartisan purge.

Election fraud is becoming a much more serious problem. Treat it as the crime it is, throw a lot of folks in jail and maybe our electoral sysytem will regain some accountability and integrity.

Brian

By all means. Let's make this a bipartisan purge.

Election fraud is becoming a much more serious problem. Treat it as the crime it is, throw a lot of folks in jail and maybe our electoral sysytem will regain some accountability and integrity.

sorry for the dupe...but it's Election Day and dupes are to Election Day what mulligans are for golf.

"Oh, and Hugh, I assume you agree that these people, hired directly by the Republican party, should also be prosecuted, correct?"

If upon an investigation, there is found cause, then I agree, absolutely. Or is this your way of implying or hoping, that Hugh, or anyone else, would try to defend this type of behavior? I hope you're not disappointed if I say, though, that the court of public opinion, based on a newspaper article, before all the facts are known is not the way to do it.

The integrity of the electoral system has been under assault and ALL involved should be held accountable. Period. It should be done lawfully and with proper investigation. Even ACORN deserves their day in court and anyone else should be held to the same standard.

GBA makes good points but the reality is McCain is far better for some of the conservative issues then Obama. Voting outside that box is just a wasted vote. Priciple is nice, but it does not put food on the table. I voted for McCain and held my nose for doing it because I do love this country so much I cannot give it to Obama and his ilk. ww

WildWillie -

I'll go you one further - GBA is a moron without equal for wasting its vote, and helping to usher in socialism. Principles are fine - uphold them, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

McCain's definitely not my first choice, but he's not a redistributionist/socialist; he never looked up to Marxist professors; he never fronted an educational experiment with an unrepentant terrorist that wasted $150 million on an educational experiment that yielded ZERO positive results.

You want principle? Use that principle locally, and put conservatives on your local school board to insure your kids' heads are screwed on right.

The bottom line: if my vote can be ACORNed out of existence, why even bother voting?

This will probably be the last time I vote in a national election. I have lost faith in the electoral process. If a vote can be placed in a palanca, as they used to do in South TX decades ago, a vote can be manipulated in more ways than your body in a Twister floor game. Your vote doesn't count: it's who counts the votes. Stalin said so years ago. Nice to know he still has such willing students here in America.

But again, maybe I should have never had faith in the process in the first place. "Better to trust in God than in princes", the Psalmist said once.