Are Black Panther guards intimidating voters at city polls? The National Black Panther Party says as much.
"We will be at the polls in the cities and counties in many states to ensure that the enemy does not sabotage the black vote, which was won through the blood of the martyrs of our people."
A confrontation in Philadelphia was reported, one between a veteran and two Black Panther guards.
Michelle Malkin has more.
William Ayers and his Weather Underground went on a bombing campaign in defense of the Black Panthers, and bombed the house of a judge in New York who was trying Black Panther members charged with various crimes in their own campaign. But William Ayers didn't matter in the campaign, and he shouldn't matter now. Right?
UPDATE: From NewsBusters: CNN Caller: Where's Your Report On Black Panther Voter Intimidation in Philly?
UPDATE II: From RedState: Voting twice in Philly "We have already heard that Republican Election Board members have been tossed out of polling stations in Philadelphia. What's next?"
Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico... Are you watching and listening? Go Vote.
UPDATE III: A reader comments. "Even Fox news is calling BS on this one. Black Panthers? That's so laughably lame, why not also say there's a hippie gang and biker gang taking your daughters as well?" True enough with regard to whether or not these two men were or are members of the Black Panthers. However, I would suggest the more apt comparison would be to "also say there's a hippie gang and biker gang" and saying it's the Hell's Angels blocking the door. I would also suggest that their emulation of Black Panther garb is surely not accidental or coincidental.
Point is this, regardless of any group affiliation or none at all: Two men dressed in military garb (trousers bloused to boots military style, beret, etc.) with one of them tapping a nightstick into the palm of his hand declaring "We are tired of white supremacy" has absolutely no place whatsoever at a polling place. That, sir, is most certainly not BS.
Judge for yourself:



Comments (45)
Welcome to the Age of Ob... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Justrand
| November 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Score: 9 (13 votes cast)
Welcome to the Age of Obama...if he becomes Messiah-in-Chief!
For the last eight years, millions of people have had it drummed into them that "The Republicans STOLE 2000...and then STOLE 2004". These sheeple now truly believe that ANYTHING they do this time around and going forward is JUSTIFIED!!
Anything!
p.s. many of these same people believe that the "wealthy" in this country STOLE everything they have...and thus having it taken BACK from them and "re-distributed" is also justified!!
Cry the beloved country!
1. Posted by Justrand
| November 4, 2008 1:59 PM |
Score: 9 (13 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 13:59
2. Posted by ToddK | November 4, 2008 2:01 PM | Score: 9 (13 votes cast)
I don't think they got they memo, that Obama is the post racial, black candidate.
Must have been all the Democrat race baiting. Those poor guys are just confused....
2. Posted by ToddK | November 4, 2008 2:01 PM |
Score: 9 (13 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 14:01
3. Posted by jp2 | November 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Score: -19 (21 votes cast)
"ut William Ayers didn't matter in the campaign, and he shouldn't matter now. Right?"
Right. He only matters to small minded, attack dog Republicans.
3. Posted by jp2 | November 4, 2008 2:06 PM |
Score: -19 (21 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 14:06
4. Posted by James | November 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Score: -23 (25 votes cast)
Steve
You seem to have taken it upon yourself to report on a lot if issues concerning race as though you are the champion of the white cause?
Is that the case or do you just not like black people per se?
4. Posted by James | November 4, 2008 2:20 PM |
Score: -23 (25 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 14:20
5. Posted by mf | November 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Score: 12 (16 votes cast)
Has O made any statements to discourage and not condone this type behavior? If he hasnt, as a leader
shouldn't he?
5. Posted by mf | November 4, 2008 2:23 PM |
Score: 12 (16 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 14:23
6. Posted by Dee | November 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Score: 18 (24 votes cast)
Champion of the white cause? Give me a break. These 2 guys at this Philly precinct were intimidating voters, plain and simple. I guess in order to be called an intimidator you need to wear a white, pointy sheet over your head rather than Black Panther attire? Oh, that's right, racism only goes one direction in America. My mistake.
6. Posted by Dee | November 4, 2008 2:26 PM |
Score: 18 (24 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 14:26
7. Posted by Steve Schippert | November 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Score: 18 (18 votes cast)
James, you can take your charged comment insinuating I am a racist and take it elsewhere.
This is not a "white cause" you idiot. It is a fair and open election cause.
I have no issues with black people or any people reargdless of race or ethnicity.
I do not, however, like the Black Panthers, the Nation of Islam (which isn't even recognized as Muslim by most Muslims), or the Ku Klux Klan. They are each insane in their own right, and each built upon racial hatred.
Clear enough for you?
7. Posted by Steve Schippert | November 4, 2008 2:26 PM |
Score: 18 (18 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 14:26
8. Posted by Justrand
| November 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Score: 14 (16 votes cast)
just to be clear, jp2, you are saying that PAST ASSOCIATIONS do not and should not matter at all in deciding on whether to vote for someone?
So, for example, if in 2012 a Republican was nominated for Prez, and then photos of that Republican surfaced with them arm-in-arm with someone who bombed an abortion clinic...YOU would think that was no big deal, and SHOULD NOT be considered.
Right?
Just getting the rulebook laid out.
8. Posted by Justrand
| November 4, 2008 2:29 PM |
Score: 14 (16 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 14:29
9. Posted by MoTim | November 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Uhh....can we expect these same "volunteers" to accompany union representatives when they are having votes for unionization? To protect the workers, of course.
9. Posted by MoTim | November 4, 2008 2:46 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 14:46
10. Posted by hcddbz | November 4, 2008 2:55 PM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
All you must realize the Great Black LIE you see a Black person cannot be racist because they do not have POWER. That is why Louis Farrakhan can say anti-Semitic things all the time and it is ok while Mel Gibson must be punished
SO James is it ok to have a Black Panther (who stands for Black Pride) with a night stick?
Is it ok to have a member of Aryan nation(who stand for white pride) within 100 meters of voting place with a night stick?
10. Posted by hcddbz | November 4, 2008 2:55 PM |
Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 14:55
11. Posted by greg v | November 4, 2008 2:56 PM | Score: -3 (11 votes cast)
Is anyone paying attention? This is in a black neighborhood. Who are the Black Panthers intimidating besides white republican operatives?
11. Posted by greg v | November 4, 2008 2:56 PM |
Score: -3 (11 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 14:56
12. Posted by Change? | November 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Racism should not be tolerated at ALL not towards anyone. I'm not sure where reverse racism has suddenly been tolerated but it is ridiculous! Their number is:
(215) 235-2185
12. Posted by Change? | November 4, 2008 3:03 PM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 15:03
13. Posted by greg v | November 4, 2008 3:15 PM | Score: -2 (6 votes cast)
the post above this one is a boilerplate by a republican operative of some kind. Google the phone number and you'll see it has appeared word for word on at least one other comment section. Probably an attempt to jam phone lines.
I call Shenanigans
13. Posted by greg v | November 4, 2008 3:15 PM |
Score: -2 (6 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 15:15
14. Posted by Adrian Browne | November 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Score: -9 (13 votes cast)
THERE IS NO 'POLL WATCHER' SCANDAL.... Apparently, according to several far-right blogs, the scandal of the day is a decision in Pennsylvania to prevent poll watchers from hanging out in Philadelphia precincts and watching people vote.
Apparently, the parties sent these watchers to "monitor" various precincts, on the lookout for some kind of nefarious conduct. When the watchers were asked to leave, this was proof, the far-right blogs said, of a deliberate scheme to conduct fraud in secret, free of poll watchers' careful scrutiny. What about accountability? And the integrity of the voting process?
As far as I can tell, all of this is total nonsense.
. . .
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_11/015513.php
14. Posted by Adrian Browne | November 4, 2008 3:22 PM |
Score: -9 (13 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 15:22
15. Posted by Peter H | November 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Score: -3 (7 votes cast)
This exact same stuff is happening all over the country. Many KKK members are doing similar things in Virginia, and West Virginia where I live. Where things like this happen towards both parties. Unfortunately that's how this all works.
MAIL IN BALLOTS in 2012!!!!
15. Posted by Peter H | November 4, 2008 3:47 PM |
Score: -3 (7 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 15:47
16. Posted by JLawson | November 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Gee, exact same thing, Peter h?
What, you mean white guys in sheets? Seems that'd be kind of noticeable...
16. Posted by JLawson | November 4, 2008 3:57 PM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 15:57
17. Posted by Falze | November 4, 2008 3:58 PM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
"total nonsense"?
Hmmm...well, Philly's election watchdog group, as of 2:45 PM, was still investigating.
We continue to look into several incidents, including minority polling officials being ousted by Democratic Judges of Elections in Philadelphia.
"total nonsense"?
Would they be looking into it if they weren't supposed to be allowed to be there?
No worries, troll, they'll come for you last.
17. Posted by Falze | November 4, 2008 3:58 PM |
Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 15:58
18. Posted by Darren | November 4, 2008 4:01 PM | Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
Wow, it took me about 10 days to get banned from Wizbang Blue. I'm sure others could have done it in less time, but I'm pretty proud of that considering I didn't use profanity or cast aspersions on Lee or Paul's paternity. It is good to know how importantly they view free speech.
Couple of winners you have there, Mr. Aylward, and they're touchy as well. I guess they're frightened and confused by people who can use complete sentences and back up their statements with citations. Good to know they'll be getting back to their day job as GEICO spokesmen soon.
I posted a link to the citizen/cell phone video of the Black Panthers, including the one with the nightstick, in the comments. Apparently, it's been deleted. There is such a thing as keeping it too real, apparently. Here's the video that's too hot for Wizbang Blue.
Oh, and greg v --
I hope I'm misunderstanding your brief comment regarding the people that would be voting at the "guarded" polling place, because I would hate to assume you are racist and ignorant enough to believe that there is no diversity of opinion in the Black community. Do you not understand the implications of what could be called (with only a little exaggeration) a "civilian national security force" outside a polling place, irrespective of their race? If you have to bring a truncheon to a polling place, you're no better than the crackers that hung out with a ball bat during the Jim Crow era. It was wrong then, and it's wrong now.
And the police agree with me, BTW. There is no reason someone displaying a weapon should be at a polling place unless they are law enforcement.
18. Posted by Darren | November 4, 2008 4:01 PM |
Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 16:01
19. Posted by Son of a Pig and a Monkey | November 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Not content with the Chicago way, Obongo is now bringing the Kenyan way.
19. Posted by Son of a Pig and a Monkey | November 4, 2008 4:03 PM |
Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 16:03
20. Posted by Scrapiron | November 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Score: 1 (7 votes cast)
If Hussein O wins it will be so illegal he can truly be called the Bastard president.
20. Posted by Scrapiron | November 4, 2008 4:18 PM |
Score: 1 (7 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 16:18
21. Posted by marc | November 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Darren - "Wow, it took me about 10 days to get banned from Wizbang Blue."
And you're proud of that?
Geesh the record, I think, is about one comment and 2 minutes before getting banned by lee.
But alas, like so many others you won't get a chance at the record.
GREAT job none-the-less.
21. Posted by marc | November 4, 2008 4:22 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 16:22
22. Posted by Prodigy | November 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Even Fox news is calling BS on this one. Black Panthers? That's so laughably lame, why not also say there's a hippie gang and biker gang taking your daughters as well?
Ashley Todd, V2. Nice try. How about yelling "Coal" one more time, just for a nice humourous finale?
22. Posted by Prodigy | November 4, 2008 4:30 PM |
Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 16:30
23. Posted by Oyster | November 4, 2008 4:37 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Really Darren, geez - 10 days? What a wimp :)
23. Posted by Oyster | November 4, 2008 4:37 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 16:37
24. Posted by LaMedusa | November 4, 2008 4:38 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
"Even Fox news is calling BS on this one. Black Panthers? That's so laughably lame, why not also say there's a hippie gang and biker gang taking your daughters as well?"
What are the night sticks and the uniforms for?
The original student video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
24. Posted by LaMedusa | November 4, 2008 4:38 PM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 16:38
25. Posted by brainy435 | November 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Thx for clearing that up, Prodidgy. Because the real issue was what to call the thugs, not the thuggish behavior.
25. Posted by brainy435 | November 4, 2008 4:54 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 16:54
26. Posted by JLawson | November 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Can't spin the video, Prodigy - unless you think it was all staged?
26. Posted by JLawson | November 4, 2008 4:55 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 16:55
27. Posted by Mac Lorry | November 4, 2008 5:05 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
And here are the cops doing their job.
27. Posted by Mac Lorry | November 4, 2008 5:05 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:05
28. Posted by greg v | November 4, 2008 5:09 PM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Darren,
Take it easy. Don't go all PC on me. Just stating that the Panthers, although I think they should have stayed home, were there not to intimidate voters but to stop voters from being intimidated or misinformed. Did anyone actually speak to a voter who felt intimidated? Of course not because there were none, just some misguided Black Panthers and some uppity republican operatives who were smart enough to exploit the situation to their candidate's benefit.
28. Posted by greg v | November 4, 2008 5:09 PM |
Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:09
29. Posted by Mac Lorry | November 4, 2008 5:11 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
greg v,
So if it was all ok, why did the cops come and remove them? See link in post #27
29. Posted by Mac Lorry | November 4, 2008 5:11 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:11
30. Posted by greg v | November 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
because you can't bring a weapon to a polling place unless you're law enforcement. These guys are misguided.
Any intimidated voters out there? Anyone?
30. Posted by greg v | November 4, 2008 5:15 PM |
Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:15
31. Posted by Mac Lorry | November 4, 2008 5:17 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Now this is real voter intimidation. I know it would scare me.
31. Posted by Mac Lorry | November 4, 2008 5:17 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:17
32. Posted by LaMedusa | November 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Holy cow! All I did was post the video in comment 24 and ask "what about the black panthers?" at wizblue, and I was banned immediately! Dang! You guys weren't kidding. Why wouldn't he want anyyone to know what's going on there?
32. Posted by LaMedusa | November 4, 2008 5:19 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:19
33. Posted by Darren | November 4, 2008 5:21 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Greg,
They were intimidating voters unless the voters were also Black Panthers.
That's what the whole pseudo-military outfit and nightstick in hand are all about. The point of holding a weapon is to intimidate. If they wanted to go subtle they could have always done the 4 D-cell Flashlight route. They chose the 'ready to split your skull' approach.
They were there for a purpose, and from their presentation it was something other than Sweetness and Light.
33. Posted by Darren | November 4, 2008 5:21 PM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:21
34. Posted by marc | November 4, 2008 5:21 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
greg v - "Did anyone actually speak to a voter who felt intimidated? Of course not because there were none,"
That's a pretty definitive statement, and you know what to back it up?
Were you there the entire time a BP "stood guard" with a nightstick?
How do you know someone, or some people (i.e. more than one) didn't view the situation and just left?
You don't know anymore than we do, or at least haven't said so, the least you CAN do is admit the possibility there COULD be a problem.
I guess that's too much for you.
34. Posted by marc | November 4, 2008 5:21 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:21
35. Posted by greg v | November 4, 2008 5:21 PM | Score: -1 (5 votes cast)
the cops were responding to a complaint, (no doubt made by the operative holding the camera who so helpfully pointed out that the guy was holding a billy club as if the cop couldn't see for himself) there is still no evidence of intimidation, that the Panthers stopped anyone (clearly the cops were told that the guys were stopping people).
How come the industrious cameraman couldn't produce one voter??? I would think a voter who was turned away from his constitutional privelege by billy club wielding militants would be hopping mad and looking for someone to talk too, like a member of the media. Why couldn't Fox News produce an intimidated voter, but only interview a Republican "observer"?
BECAUSE IT IS BULLSHIT!
35. Posted by greg v | November 4, 2008 5:21 PM |
Score: -1 (5 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:21
36. Posted by Mac Lorry | November 4, 2008 5:21 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Dah! Unless you are up to no good.
36. Posted by Mac Lorry | November 4, 2008 5:21 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:21
37. Posted by LaMedusa | November 4, 2008 5:30 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
37. Posted by LaMedusa | November 4, 2008 5:30 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:30
38. Posted by marc | November 4, 2008 5:40 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
LaMedusa, MeThinks I'll head over to me polling place with a white hood and brandishing a noose.
Surely it wouldn't intimidate anyone. Right Darren?
After all, a noose isn't a weapon. Right darren?
38. Posted by marc | November 4, 2008 5:40 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:40
39. Posted by Darren | November 4, 2008 5:41 PM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
I think it also bears mentioning that this is one polling place out of thousands nationwide.
While one polling place being "guarded" by volunteers is more than zero, this is definitely not happening as part of a broad effort by the NBPP to cause problems. This is likely two neighborhood guys trying to make a statement.
There is also the possibility that this is an effort to focus attention away from something else that's going on, but I would seriously hope not.
39. Posted by Darren | November 4, 2008 5:41 PM |
Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:41
40. Posted by marc | November 4, 2008 5:51 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
darren - "While one polling place being "guarded" by volunteers is more than zero,"
What, you didn't read the quoted BP statement:
Or willfully chose to ignore it in order to minimize the problem?40. Posted by marc | November 4, 2008 5:51 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:51
41. Posted by Oyster | November 4, 2008 5:59 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Yeah, who you gonna believe? greg v, Darren or your lyin' eyes?
How dense do they make these people?
41. Posted by Oyster | November 4, 2008 5:59 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 17:59
42. Posted by Darren | November 4, 2008 6:55 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Marc,
If I was the NBPP, I would make lots of public statements to appear relevant as well. While many on the left are cheering what they see as the end of Reagan, the era of Jackson and Sharpton is coming to an end as well.
You can get a lot more with a suit and a pen than you can with a gun or a knife. Being hard and scary got those two dudes their 15 minutes on TV and (more) unwanted attention from the cops.
Being erudite, educated and cool got Barack Obama $600 million in campaign contributions, Hillary Clinton's head mounted on his office wall and possibly a few hours away from the White House.
Does the New Black Panther Party seem all that relevant, by comparison? If this was as widespread as the NBPP would like us to believe we would have heard about it by now. As it is, they are about to be bypassed by the Obama machine.
So far, no additional incidents. The NBPP are, apparently, virtually all hat and no cattle, as we say in Texas. I think this one was pretty stupid on the part of those two guys, but it's not widespread (that we've heard of) and it's possible these two clowns took the press release more seriously than the people who wrote the press release.
I've already voted for McCain and contributed to two GOP campaigns, I'm just calling them like I see them.
42. Posted by Darren | November 4, 2008 6:55 PM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 18:55
43. Posted by Timmer | November 4, 2008 7:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The more I surf around, the more this seems like an over-reaction to a couple of clowns playing dress-up. I'm not finding any real news about this.
43. Posted by Timmer | November 4, 2008 7:57 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 19:57
44. Posted by petepenguin | November 4, 2008 8:05 PM | Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Obama is killing.Go to bed McCain.This is over.
44. Posted by petepenguin | November 4, 2008 8:05 PM |
Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 20:05
45. Posted by Dr Gonzo | November 4, 2008 8:07 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
hmmm...I see a white guy standing there in a suit jacket, I see a white woman standing behind talking on a phone, I see 2 white people walk OUT of the building. And I don't see anything that makes me think this is actually a polling place.
The second part of the "exclusive" looked faker than the first part....
I wonder if the same people who passed out the flyers in Philadelphia telling people that there would be 2 days of voting, Republicans on Tuesday and Democrats on Wednesday are the same people who made this video?
45. Posted by Dr Gonzo | November 4, 2008 8:07 PM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on November 4, 2008 20:07