Oh, he'll give you a hug, alright. Makes it all that much easier to remove the money from your wallet.

From a man too arrogant to visit sick and wounded soldiers, unless he could take his camera crew.

& when told no, went to the gym instead?

idontinkzo

I worry about the attitude the president-elect has exhibited toward those in the military (those air raiding civilians and such)

Right on cue Lorie!

Reporting from Kabul, Afghanistan, and Istanbul, Turkey -- The U.S. military said today it was investigating a report that an American airstrike hit a wedding party, killing dozens of civilians and prompting new pleas from President Hamid Karzai that foreign forces try harder to avoid hurting and killing noncombatants.

"We cannot win the fight against terrorism with airstrikes," Karzai told reporters at the presidential palace, speaking hours after Barack Obama won the U.S. presidential election.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghanistan-6-2008nov06,0,1629400.story

But hey, who cares about being right. (Not you. Remember Ashley Todd?) Listening to Hannity and Colmes is prolly very soothing to you. I suppose that's better than most alternatives.

I thought that Obama is the next commander in chief, not Barney Franks. Evidently you were crying so hard when Obama gave his acceptance speech.

He has never said he would cut the military. Just more GOP lies. Get over it, and start helping to try and make this country better for all Americans Lorie.

And to post #2. Just more lies, as that was proven to be. But keep it up, and buy more Kleenex for yourself while your lying and crying.

This country has big problems and you sure aren't helping anything!

Paranoid? Lies! All Lies! All of you!

Do you have any joy? Not even in winning can you show any happiness or good humor? Silly rants about crying and Kleenex is how you celebrate the first black President? Childish comments that my eight year old might find on the playground from a bully is how you react to your guy winning? Unbelievable.

jp2 -- I said I was concerned about Obama's attitude toward our military for making comments like that. Is that really the best way to talk about the military of our country to call them killers of civilians? If you think it is I have to respectfully disagree. No wonder over 75 percent of those in the military voted for McCain. But you know what, they will be respectful to President Obama, as Tommy Franks said.

Barney Frank is not the President, but he has power in the House and he has announced his intention regarding the military. When one of the leaders of the majority party says they want to cut the military 25 percent and he has a President of his own party who can now make that happen, yeah, call me concerned about it. I did not hear Obama address Frank's very widely reported comment. He may have, but I didn't hear him do it so I have no way of knowing whether or not he would go along with it. That is my reason for concern. My husband is a Marine vet and I have many vet friends as well as many currently in the military and I am echoing what I am hearing from them.

As for trying to make things better, Allen, I am doing a lot more in that regard by saying I am optimistic that Obama will change his views and do right by the military as Tommy Franks believes, than you are by saying things like,
"Evidently you were crying so hard when Obama gave his acceptance speech.

He has never said he would cut the military. Just more GOP lies. Get over it, and start helping to try and make this country better for all Americans Lorie.

And to post #2. Just more lies, as that was proven to be. But keep it up, and buy more Kleenex for yourself while your [sic] lying and crying."

jp2 -- I said I was concerned about Obama's attitude toward our military for making comments like that. Is that really the best way to talk about the military of our country to call them killers of civilians?

Yes, when we kill civilians due to poor policy, it's proper to point this out in the context of policy, which he did.

[Afghanistan] "requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians

Which is exactly what happened, according to reports, yesterday. It's happened numerous other times as well. Even Karzai had to speak up about it.

And Lorie, I'm sure you were all over John McCain and deeply, deeply serious and concerned when he said this:

In the most obscene chapter in recent American history is the conduct of the Kosovo conflict when the president of the United States refused to prepare for ground operations, refused to have air power used effectively because he wanted them flying -- he had them flying at 15,000 feet where they killed innocent civilians because they were dropping bombs from such -- in high altitude.

Your outrage must have been through the roof.

Also, please cite your statistics for the military vote.

jp2, your guy won. Get over it.

Hmm... haven't we heard this "wedding bombed" story before? And didn't it turn out that every single "guest" at the "wedding" turned out to be young adult males -- not a bride in sight?

Sheesh, I thought re-runs were for the summer...

J.

"He has never said he would cut the military."

Nope, never said anything remotely like that.

Every time we hit a "wedding party" it always seems to happen at 2am, at just the time you'd expect a lot of kids to be running around. Then we get there, and find only males of military age. And oddly enough, the happy couple always seems to be registered at RPGs R Us. Nothing says "Good Luck Ahmed and Judy" like a shiny new AK47 or a designer suicide vest.

Another metric will be the number of re-enlistments in the military with the anti-military party in charge. Could just plunge like the stock market. We'll see.

A hug.

Yes. Isn't our political discourse ridiculous? Especially in the media. And he's not "our commander in chief". He's only commander in chief of the armed forces AFTER Congress declares war, something it hasn't done since 1941. Read Federalist 69 and you'll get straightened out.

First off, JP2 seems to forget the 3000 innocent american citizens killed by his terrorist friends policies.

Lorie, I disagree big time. I am somewhat older, but from experience, the left not only hates the military and what it stands for, but they loath it. ww

"He has never said he would cut the military."

No, more than that. He plans on disarming America. I wonder if that is before or after the generated crisis? Bet Obama doesn't even know about that. Get your cameras out for that "deer in the headlights" moment.

I remember what Carter, Clinton and the dhimmierats did to the military. I remember Church and Kennedy when they sold us out in Vietnam.

When the next attack comes, and it will, who do you think the Obama will blame?

Do pray for the Iraqis who fought along side with us. Their toast now.

Hmm... haven't we heard this "wedding bombed" story before? And didn't it turn out that every single "guest" at the "wedding" turned out to be young adult males -- not a bride in sight? -Jay Tea

Hmmm. Maybe all the gay men that aren't in Iran go to Afghanistan for such things, much like ours go to Boston and Cambridge.

This is something that has bothered me for a while. I've supported McCain since Fred Thompson fizzled... But this thing people keep trying to point out as somehow anti-American; that there have been airstikes on villages and civilians killed and the fact that he mentioned this is somehow unpatriotic is just bull. I deal with the situation in Afghanistan every day, and the fact is that there are attacks where civilians are killed, and it's a known problem. The U.S. is doing everything possible to avoid this sort of thing; these incidents are NOT deliberate... but one of the things that has struck me wrong during this campaign has been the hyping of this quote as Obama being somehow un-American. He was simply addressing a known problem, which is actually a significant issue in Afghanistan.