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For a long time, I've said that one of the keys to understanding a president -- and a good gauge of measuring their success -- is to take a look at their sense of humor. Well, today we saw a glimpse of Barack Obama's sense of humor -- and I didn't like it.

Yesterday, at his first press conference since the election, Obama was asked if he had consulted with past presidents since winning the election last Tuesday. His response:

"...in terms of speaking to former presidents, I have spoken to all of them, that are still living, obviously, president Clinton... hey, I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about, you know, doing any seances..."

A small thing, but highly revealing.

Obama caught himself saying something awkward -- that he had spoken to all former presidents. Technically, this would include the dead ones. A minor fumble, easily excused.

So he covered himself, adding the clarification that he only meant the living ones, aimed at any jibes about him speaking with dead presidents.

Then, to deflect even that possibility of criticism, he decides to turn his tiny verbal gaffe into a joke. A sound strategy.

But where most people would make it a self-deprecating one, he instead chooses to make it about someone else. And the first person to come to his mind is... Nancy Reagan.

Nancy Reagan, widow of a former president, 20 years out of the White House, and recovering from a broken hip.

Yup, who better to lampoon than an 87-year=old crippled widow?

Even better, there's another layer to the joke that bears scrutiny: not only is it mean-spirited, it is factually incorrect.

Nancy Reagan, to the best of anyone's knowledge, never held a seance or spoke to the dead in the White House.

It was Hillary Clinton who talked about having imaginary conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt in the White House.

Taken at its most cynical, one could argue that Obama knew that once people started looking at his remarks, they would be reminded of this and once again be grateful that he had spared the nation of another Clinton in the Oval Office.

I doubt that, though. Instead, I think that he still has a lot of dirt about Hillary floating around in the back of his mind, and conflated her chats with the deceased with Nancy Reagan's flirtation with the supernatural, and tossed out his line in response.

It's classic Obama: in the guise of humor, he deflects attention away from himself by poking fun at someone else -- and in this case, someone who is utterly powerless and defenseless and unlikely to retaliate with a witticism of her own, or even complain.

The later phone call of apology is the icing on the cake: it defuses the attack and prevents even the possibility of the victim lashing back.

Recently, a commenter reminded me of a story from a reporter named Nick Lovelady. It seems that Lovelady was working to impress a young female news intern. And then, at a news conference, Obama singled him out and teased him on his "baby face," and he never heard from the young lady again.

He wrote a column about it, demanding an apology -- and, amazingly enough, Obama called to apologize. Obama's staff recorded the call and sent it on to NPR's "Wait! Wait! Don't Tell Me," and they played it on the air.

(The full story, including Lovelady's two columns on the subject, can be found here.)

Same pattern: Obama jokes around at another's expense, then later calls and apologizes -- and makes sure that word of the apology gets out, too.

I don't particularly care for what it says about President-Elect Obama.


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Comments (48)

A man drunk on his notions ... (Below threshold)

A man drunk on his notions of self-importance cannot have a sense of humor. It's as impossible for him to be funny as it is for him to admit fault, and for the same reason.

"Humor" and "humility" have a common etymology. Humor arises from the perception of human vulnerability and fallibility. It's an attempt to wring something good out of something painful, underpinned by the comprehension that "we're all fools, most of our lives; it's unavoidable" (Victor Hugo). But he who's utterly convinced that he can do no wrong is incapable of dealing with that truth.

How, then, shall we expect this man to govern? When it's become so clear, these past few years, that at the core of virtually every national problem are the mistakes of our politicians, how shall we expect him to cope with his own mistakes, and the mistakes of his fellow partisans?

But really, humorlessness and egotism are characteristic of leftists wherever and whenever you find them. To set out on remolding society to fit a contrived notion of Utopia, you must first persuade yourself that you can do no wrong, and that those who oppose you are either stupid and must be re-educated, or evil and must be put down. Not much room for humor there.

That is a very good analysi... (Below threshold)

That is a very good analysis of Obama's character and psychology. He is afraid to look bad even when he has made a minor mistake. He response is to make someone else look worse to deflect criticism for him. This is a serious character flaw.

http://bloggingredneck.blogspot.com/

Mr TYou really oug... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Mr T

You really ought to take a vacation and review what your core principles are. You sound like a "liberal". You're being driven by your feelings Mr T. Oh my god!!! You've been wearing those "feelings" on your sleeve for about 11 months now. Aren't you getting exhausted?

Further proof is your logic here which is: Obama makes a verbal gaffe = asshat; Obama apologizes = asshat. A therapist I know, when I talked to him about folks like you reminded me of Charles Krauthammer's diagnosis of Bush detractors. You know the diagnosis I'm talking about, don't you?

You should give real serious consideration to stories about the navy; if for no other reason, your mental health.

I'm sure you'll ignore my advice which is a no lose proposition for me as I shall enjoy watching you express your "feelings" about the president for at least 4 years.

Obama did this on purpose. ... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Obama did this on purpose. It was his way of declaring neither Reagan, nor Reaganism, is sacrosanct.

As he would say, "We've, uh, moved on."

*Fist bump!*

^ correction ^is -... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

^ correction ^

is -> as something

JFO:No, dumbass, t... (Below threshold)

JFO:

No, dumbass, the "gaffe" was the ascribing seances to Nancy Reagan. Or, for another example, the "57 states" line.

This is an example of Obama's character: when he feels vulnerable, he reacts by pointing at someone else and laughing at them. And in the two examples I cited, he chose people far more powerless and far more vulnerable than he.

Then, later, he made sure that his apology was as public as possible, to make him seem as magnanimous as possible. In the Lovelady case, his own staff recorded the conversation and sent it out.

It's about not appearing weak, or vulnerable, or imperfect. Better people embrace their shortcomings, lead the laughter at them. George W. Bush busts on himself about his own verbal stumbles. People sometimes have to correct my English. I knew I had a problem when Arnold Schwarzenegger started doing it."

Bill Clinton did it, too. Remember him hitting on that Incan mummy?

Bush Senior did it, too. And Reagan was legendary for it.

Obama... not so much.

And it shows.

J.

Gee Mr T isn't interesting ... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Gee Mr T isn't interesting that the subject of his "joke" or "gaffe" didn't take his apology the way you did and sees his character differently than you.

"Whether Obama apologized because he actually felt bad about the baby face comment or he did it so he can get my vote, the fact that he called me the same day says a lot about his character. I can't see too many other politicians taking time out of their day to do that."
http://www.columnists.com/newsletterarticles.php?articleID=25

Now I change your logic to this: Obama = asshat; Obama = asshat no matter what.

Jay, not surprising you con... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

Jay, not surprising you conviently circumvented the original awkward question and didn't quote it directly and tried to paraphrase or clean it up to suit your post.

Original Question: "Have you spoke to any living ex-presidents?"

Jay: Yesterday, at his first press conference since the election, Obama was asked if he had consulted with past presidents since winning the election last Tuesday. His response...

How else should he respond to such a stupidly phrased and pompous question?

As you wrote A small thing, but highly revealing

Yes, your editorial after not offering the original question is a tactic journalists in the trade call 'a false question' was pretty revealing... of yourself and your axe to grind.

Steve, in this case it's no... (Below threshold)

Steve, in this case it's not the question that is germane, but the answer. There was absolutely no reason to bring up Nancy Reagan in this context, and plenty of reasons (her age, her widow status, her absence from the public stage, her health) to not bring her up. And Obama did it anyway.

Gee, that sounds so familiar... where else have we seen Obama answer a question in a very revealing way, followed by attempts to shift the blame back on the questioner?

Oh, yeah... Joe the Plumber.

J.

And in the two examp... (Below threshold)

And in the two examples I cited, he chose people far more powerless and far more vulnerable than he.

That is clearly evidence of a character flaw. Spin the question any way you want Crickmore, I would expect nothing less. Also, attempting to characterize Obama's cheap, senseless, classless comments as some flaw in the commenter is an adolescent maneuver to distract from the real point.

The real point is Obama took a cheap shot at the widow of a man almost assassinated but still critically wounded during his first year in office. Understandably consumed with fear for her husband's safety Nancy Reagan sought out all sorts of advice, even that of an astrologer.

All of this became known years after the fact only when Don Regan (failed second term Reagan COS) penned a nasty memoir.

But who among the hypnotized groupies in the press would expect Obama to instinctively grasp all this in context? It's as if Obama were a stranger to these facts....oh, that's right, he is a stranger to these facts

This is going to be a fun t... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

This is going to be a fun two years. Already the lefty loons, lead by of all people, JFO, are besides themselves with this critique. The flip has been flopped. Enjoy lefties. We now have the target. ww

Okay, he shouldn't have gon... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

Okay, he shouldn't have gone to Nancy Reagan and the seances...he should have left it at seances only. I myself couldn't remember exactly who used to talk to whom or what spirtualist influences were in the White House. Didn't Nancy Reagan consult at some expense, some bizarre astrological advisor on what were good or bad days in the stars for her husband? But the reporter's question implicitly asked him what former living ex- presidents he had talked to.

As to Obama's lack of self-deprecating humor, by omission which you referred to a few seconds later he says..

On the other hand, our preference would be to get a shelter dog. But obviously, a lot of shelter dogs are mutts, like me. If that isn't self -deprecating, I don't the meaning of the word.

ww - as usual - no, as alw... (Below threshold)
JFO:

ww - as usual - no, as always you got it wrong. I'm enjoying Mr T's emotional pain and juvenile logic.

The only "right" you've ever been is when you espouse your own out of the mainstream, extremist right wing views.

JFO, WildWillie has ... (Below threshold)
Chip:

JFO,
WildWillie has it right, you guys on the left have been going "nucular" on GWB for the last eight years, it's going to be funny watching the shoe be on the other foot now.

Laughing or joking at so... (Below threshold)
sue:

Laughing or joking at someone elses expense is always wrong.

I guess it's not surprising that those on the left have no problems with it when it is someone on their side doing it.

It's still wrong.

"It was his way of declarin... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

"It was his way of declaring neither Reagan, nor Reaganism, is sacrosanct."

So the way he chose to do this is to take a swipe at the ailing 87-year old widow of Reagan? Stay classy, Obama. (Perhaps I should scratch my face with my middle finger pointed in Brocko's direction; like he did with Hillary, twice.)

Oh heck, we all have fun ma... (Below threshold)
epador:

Oh heck, we all have fun making fun of each other (some take it as serious fun, some even more seriously than others) in these threads. THe O man is an effete fellow, and he makes effetist jokes. Big deal. When he starts making Stalinist jokes, then I'll be worried:

Stalin summoned Radek and said, "I know you spread jokes about me. It's impertinent."
"Why?"
"I am the Great Leader, Teacher, and Friend of the people after all."
"No, I've not told anybody this joke."

Factually correct is not so... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Factually correct is not something he has alot of regard for.

Would a seance or astrology be a great departure from what his kin practice in Kenya? Slaughtering livestock sort of fits, doesn't it?

Why would anyone be surpris... (Below threshold)
YosemiteSam:

Why would anyone be surprised?

His remark was consistent with the artful use of his middle finger while speaking of his opponents before a national audience.

The conventional wisdom is that Presidents grow in office. We can only "HOPE FOR CHANGE".

You're "enjoying his emotio... (Below threshold)

You're "enjoying his emotional pain?" You're self-defined scum now. Congratulations.

I think you are racists for... (Below threshold)
retired military:

I think you are racists for making such a big deal out of this. Racists I tell you.

Blog DogSelf infli... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Blog Dog

Self inflicted ODS pain. Reason and logic thrown to the wind. One of the premises of the post false, i.e. Obama did in fact engage in self-deprecating humor at the conference. "Victim" young reporter of the humor cited by Mr T as so egregious stating he thought Obama showed his character by apologizing is conveniently ignored by Mr T.

Yes I will enjoy it, "scum" or not. Better, for once, than being called an unpatriotic america hater which the loonier ones from the right like to call some of us.

Gaff away, Mr. Obama. I'm ... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Gaff away, Mr. Obama. I'm going to relish every moment he begins to slip up about the people who got him there.

Jay Tea,As a ratio... (Below threshold)
Rance:

Jay Tea,

As a rational human being, which upsets you more:

That Nancy Reagan consulted an astrologer and that the president based his travels on astrological advice, or the fact that Obama made a joke about it that may have insulted her?

President Obama looks at th... (Below threshold)
glenn:

President Obama looks at this point like giving us a lot of ammo for satire. For the satirists among us this is a good thing. But sideswiping an 87 year old woman (and being mistaken) is more to the point that Mr. Obama is fully representative of most (not all)of the people in his generation. Big Ego,Massive Sense of Entitlement, No Class. In my working life I met a hundred guys like this and guess what? None of them were competent.

But...but...maybe Obama is ... (Below threshold)
-S-:

But...but...maybe Obama is just grief struck at the passing just days ago of his...uhh, grandmother. So, you know, he has occult issues on his mind like seances. Just trying to go with Obama's logic here, which is, I don't mind saying, exceptionally creepy as it is also unusually insensitive.

But he got a big show from announcing his "apology" phone call. I guess that was why he just couldn't find the time to attend the grandma's funeral.

Jay, you nailed the issue.

"On the other hand, our pre... (Below threshold)
-S-:

"On the other hand, our preference would be to get a shelter dog. But obviously, a lot of shelter dogs are mutts, like me." If that isn't self -deprecating, I don't the meaning of the word.

- - - - - - -
What does that even MEAN? Obama's remark there, what does it actually or really MEAN? It's an irrational, illogical statement.

"Our preference would be to get a shelter dog. But...shelter dogs are mutts, like me."

Shelter dogs are mutts, "but" meaning, he can't get one because they're "mutts" BUT THEY ARE shelter dogs?

Too many drugs have addled this man's brains.

The immediate denigrating remark about Nancy Reagan was equally pitiable, pitiable about Obama, not Nancy Reagan (who, we all know, was not involved in seances, that was Hillary Clinton who was into "channeling" "spirits").

Obama could easily have just dismissed RONALD Reagan (deceased, not living) and joked about himself not "channeling" Reagan or whatever other cryptic reference, but instead he denigrated the living widow of Reagan, clearly a poltiical knife-attack by Obama under ruse of being "funny."

Seriously, I think Obama's mind is not well. Certainly his heart is in the very wrong places. He didn't hesitate to try for using the widow of a political opponent to make a joke (not funny). Then he talks about dogs.

So let me get this straight... (Below threshold)

So let me get this straight. He apologizes to Nancy Reagan and reports say they end up having a pleasant 30 minute chat.... And you are outraged? If he had not apologized, would it be safe to assume that you would be...

MORE outraged?

Like I said, he won in a Landslide, by over 200 electoral votes and nearly 8 million popular votes. Every day that you people sit around chewing on your sour grapes makes you look more extreme and out of touch. I know you Jay. And you know me. You know that I wrote a piece congratulating Bush when he won the last election. Again you guys come off like a bunch of hateful crybabies.

Get OVER IT! You lost, BADLY. The world and most of the United States is either happy, or willing to give the President Elect the benefit of the doubt.

Nancy Reagan has a "warm" conversation with Obama according to reports. If she aint upset, why are you?

"Get OVER IT! You lost, BAD... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

"Get OVER IT! You lost, BADLY."

Get over what? How much do you get paid to comment on blogs, David? You really need to take Adrian's and jp2's lead and work less so you can get your fair share of the wealth.

Why is it that "GET OVER IT... (Below threshold)
JimK:

Why is it that "GET OVER IT" wasn't acceptable in 2000 or 2004, but it's supposed to shut everyone up in 2008?

I'd like a serious answer to that question please. Left-leaning Wizbang readers, please actually answer it. Why was it that when the right said "Get over it" in the last two elections the left refused to do so, but now that the left has won, the right is supposed to roll over and die?

The MSM destroyed two middl... (Below threshold)
BCC:

The MSM destroyed two middle-class, caucasian Americans - Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber.

Why? Because they both had the potential to weaken and/or defeat the Messiah with a Thin Resume.

We are indeed at a turning point in this country. We now have rule by the minorities - blacks, illegal amigos, and Mohammadens. Rule by the children - college kids and media brats who look up with glassy-eyed reverence to The One.

The government and the media have merged into one: the government-media complex which "puts out" press reports on how the Oba-messiah will "fix" the economy and give "tax cuts" to millions of adoring voters who don't actually pay federal income tax. Interesting.

Universal health insurance. Universal, mandatory pre-school. Civilian national security force.

Very interesting.

I say American conservatives/traditionalists work to destroy this Saul Alinksy social agitator (really just a smooth talking version of Jesse and Sharpton). Let's get to work to mock The One, show him no respect, work to destroy his presidency. Let's start.

Jay Tea adds: BCC is now a Blocked Cretinous Clod.

-S-,The point Obam... (Below threshold)
Rance:

-S-,

The point Obama was making about mutts, is that they are mixed breeds. His daughter has allergies so their options are limited to breeds that don't trigger those allergies.

"Laughing or joking at s... (Below threshold)
Paul_In_Houston:

"Laughing or joking at someone else's expense is always wrong."

Well, Sue, it may depend on how it is done, and in what context; so I'm not sure about "always".

But, I would agree that ridicule of others does not constitute a sense of humor by itself.

From watching him, I honestly doubt he has a sense of humor. I'd feel a lot better about him if I thought he did.

A sense of humor helps keep you from being too full of yourself, from taking yourself too seriously.

Its' apparent absence is not very reassuring for one in his position.

A tactless ass. Lampooning ... (Below threshold)
ODA315:

A tactless ass. Lampooning an old woman isn't a big deal according to the trolls on this sight. Of course it'd be Rovian hate speech if she'd been one of theirs. Maybe Biden's rubbing off on him.

The worst thing about the news conference was his continuos "uhhhhhh, uhhh, uhhhhhhhhhhhh". Who the hell taught this guy to public speak? He'll be real impressive talking to President Putin.

"You know uhhhhhhhh, I see uhh your point uhhhhhhhhhhhh, we'll forget uuuuuhhh the missle shield uuuhhhhh if you PROMISE us you'll be nice uhhhhhhhhh. Promise? Uhhhhhhhh please? Here's a billion dollars in aid uuhhhhh to help uuhhhh you uhhhhhh remember to uhhhhhh keep your uuuhhhhh word."

Paul_In_Houston, that's why... (Below threshold)

Paul_In_Houston, that's why even though I feel Joe Biden is completely wrong-headed I can say that, as a person, I think I'd actually like the guy.

Obama is humorless. His attempts at humor fall flat and sometimes it's so bad he even ends up having to apologize for it.

I'm waiting for his apology to Joe the Plumber. He made Joe the butt of a joke more than once. Where's Joe's apology?

Look, it is not going to be... (Below threshold)
Keith:

Look, it is not going to be good enough to attack the new administration in the blogs. We have to lock arms and present a united front -- the cards are stacked against us now.

The big conservative organizations that have led the charge on our issues are going to be critical to ensuring that we do not lose ground in our fight against more government. I found this video from the Chamber of Commerce and the message is right on. . .

http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/takeaction/index.cfm?ID=246

Now, more than ever, we have to stick together

That stupid remark and that... (Below threshold)
drjohn:

That stupid remark and that egoistic sign (who else ever had one of those?) show what a pompous and arrogant SOB Obama is and one ay it's going to nite him in the ass.

Give me a break.Ca... (Below threshold)
Russ S.:

Give me a break.

Can you also glean something sinister in his search for a dog?

The comments here are really amazing. Just Look at #31 - "We now have rule by the minorities - blacks, illegal amigos, and Mohammadens."

You do know that you guys are the goofballs who detroyed the republican party, don't you? Conservatives should jump ship and start a new party. The could take the pro-lifers with them and leave you guys to your vices.

Sure, the dumbass block was always a reliable vote. But since you've driven away all the legal amigos you can't get a majority anyway, so what's the point?

True, I've heard funnier th... (Below threshold)
Russ S.:

True, I've heard funnier things.

For example, when I heard Nancy Reagan consulted astrologers, I though it was hillarious. I also thought here 'just say no' campaign was amusing given her well-documented behaviour as a young actress.

It's also funny that you goofballs make a big deal out of this when she herself wasn't even offended.

Francis W. Porretto wrote: ... (Below threshold)
Russ S.:

Francis W. Porretto wrote: 'Humorlessness and egotism are characteristic of leftists wherever and whenever you find them. To set out on remolding society to fit a contrived notion of Utopia, you must first persuade yourself that you can do no wrong'

He's right. In fact, he's dead on. There's nothing more tiring or uncivil than an arrogant democrat. There's a saying in Washington that democrats never met a group they didn't like, or a individual they didn't hate. Repubs are the exact opposite. It has to do with differing views on society, focus on the individual, that sort of thing.

I know a guy who worked for Clinton and then Bush, a military guy. The Bush people were generally pleasant to be around whereas the Clinton people were just horrid. Always on a mission, totally humorless and tiring.

The downside is that Repubs, for all their humor and good nature, never help any groups. They don't like groups. Fine, but we live in reality and sometimes govenment can work better and smaller if it focuses on groups.

His comments had nothing to... (Below threshold)

His comments had nothing to do with Hillary, consciously or unconsciously. It was just humor based on his far left take on the far left's spin on Nancy Reagan. In his mind everyone knows, and no one should be upset by his 'joke'. After all the left's 'common knowledge' and 'conventional wisdom' say he is right.

Obama has never been able to laugh at himself and that says something worth noting about the guy.

Your right though, it was kinda mean and factually inaccurate.

Though he did run for Presi... (Below threshold)
Tammy:

Though he did run for President and never made it, I do think Bob Dole was (and still is) a laugh riot. The man had a wicked, self-deprecating sense of humor. I absolutely love that aspect of him.

"Fine, but we live in reali... (Below threshold)
ODA315:

"Fine, but we live in reality and sometimes govenment can work better and smaller if it focuses on groups"

Like ACORN? or maybe CAIR?

I always thought the govt did best when focusing on america, not subsets of it.

You're making a big deal ou... (Below threshold)
Kevin:

You're making a big deal out of nothing. Obama himself says he's not a perfect man. Is that not self depreciating? He found himself in an awkward spot, panicked and said the first thing that was running through the back of him mind. Yes it was factually incorrect. Mrs Reagan merely consulted with astrologers and it was Mrs Clinton who apparently had seances with the dead. The only thing this reveals is that he got the 2 confused and thinks its bizarre. So do I.

I mean you are really looking closely for something aren't you? I wonder if you keep the same standards with the current president.

"Fool me once,...shame on...you. {Perplexed look}
Fool me twice,...{look of bewilderment}...don't get fooled again."

I agree Russ. Wizbots are ... (Below threshold)
Kevin:

I agree Russ. Wizbots are as proud and arrogant as their pals in the religious right. Their no compromise, my way or the highway, way they see the world, is only popular amongst themselves, and is generally not shared by the rest of the country. And that has really damaged their party. So now they've had to hit the road.


Give me a break.

Can you also glean something sinister in his search for a dog?

The comments here are really amazing. Just Look at #31 - "We now have rule by the minorities - blacks, illegal amigos, and Mohammadens."

You do know that you guys are the goofballs who detroyed the republican party, don't you? Conservatives should jump ship and start a new party. The could take the pro-lifers with them and leave you guys to your vices.

Sure, the dumbass block was always a reliable vote. But since you've driven away all the legal amigos you can't get a majority anyway, so what's the point?

38. Posted by Russ S. | November 8, 2008 3:19 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: -4 (6 votes cast)

Posted on November 8, 2008 15:19
True, I've heard funnier th... (Below threshold)

39. Posted by Russ S. | November 8, 2008 3:28 PM | Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
Russ S.:

Jay, so what? Presidents h... (Below threshold)
kevin:

Jay, so what? Presidents have time to craft their persona. You are comparing a man who has not even taken office yet to former presidents who have had years of grooming by staff aids while in the White House on how to react to public questions. It reveals nothing of Obama's character other than he is imperfect. Something he readily admits. Getting caught in lie after lie, is another matter. I can't believe you are nitpicking and hung up on a man's character, after supporting a president who approved the torture of POWs. Something even John McCain was opposed to. Whats it say about a man's character who circumvents the spirit of US law and routinely holds POWs without charging them outside US borders? I understand Bush's reasons. Those held were captured on the battlefield. But when the battlefield happens to be the town you live in, that really does not say a whole lot about their potential guilt. It serves no good purpose to incarcerate an innocent man. And there is no way to know who is guilty without a fair trial. Whats it reveal about a man's character who cares little if he incarcerates the innocent. I am sure most being held ARE guilty, but not all. Try them, execute the guilty, free the rest.

You are nitpicking, and your man has lots to hide.

Steve, in this case it's not the question that is germane, but the answer. There was absolutely no reason to bring up Nancy Reagan in this context, and plenty of reasons (her age, her widow status, her absence from the public stage, her health) to not bring her up. And Obama did it anyway.

Gee, that sounds so familiar... where else have we seen Obama answer a question in a very revealing way, followed by attempts to shift the blame back on the questioner?

Oh, yeah... Joe the Plumber.

J.

9. Posted by Jay Tea | November 8, 2008 8:28 AM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 13 (17 votes ca

Kevin... most of your comme... (Below threshold)

Kevin... most of your comments are utterly incomprehensible, but the first statement on that last one jumps out:

Jay, so what? Presidents have time to craft their persona. You are comparing a man who has not even taken office yet to former presidents who have had years of grooming by staff aids while in the White House on how to react to public questions.

The man is 47 years old. If he hasn't by now "crafted his persona" to know who he is and what sort of man he is, then he has NO BUSINESS running for ANY public office.

It sounds like you're affirming one of the big criticisms against Obama -- people just didn't know who he was. Listening to you, it sounds like he doesn't know, either.

J.

"Jay, so what? President... (Below threshold)

"Jay, so what? Presidents have time to craft their persona. You are comparing a man who has not even taken office yet to former presidents who have had years of grooming by staff aids while in the White House on how to react to public questions."

Is this your way of admitting he isn't ready for office? Are you implying that he's getting on-the-job training on how to tell people what they want to hear so as not to reveal his true nature? There are a lot of ways to look at your comment, and none of them are good.




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