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Having babies is... SEXIST!!!

We've all heard the eco-warriors talk about the extinction of mankind as a benefit to the planet. Who cares about humans, Gaia must reign supreme! The latest reason to stop with the babymakin', though, is because it is SEXIST!!!!!!!!!!

While of course we're used to the feminist argument that marriage is just legal slavery or rape, I have to admit this was a new one for me -- albeit, unsurprising, given how enthusiastic feminists are for meaningless sex and unfettered access to abortions.

Along with the emancipation of women, sexual liberation has become very much a part of politics around the world. To the conservatives, both these issues challenge 'family values'.

But what if there were no families? What if we say no to reproduction?

My understanding of reproduction is that it is the basis of the institutions of marriage and family, and those two provide the moorings to the structure of gender and sexual oppression. Family is the social institution that ensures unpaid reproductive and domestic labour, and is concerned with initiating a new generation into the gendered (as I analyzed here) and classed social set-up. Not only that, families prevent money the flow of money from the rich to the poor: wealth accumulates in a few hands to be squandered on and bequeathed to the next generation, and that makes families as economic units selfishly pursue their own interests and become especially prone to consumerism.

So it makes sense to say that if the world has to change, reproduction has to go. Of course there is an ecological responsibility to reduce the human population, or even end it , and a lot was said about that on the blogosphere recently (here, and here), but an ecological consciousness is not how I came to my decision to remain child-free.

... Thus as I realized how the cultural imperative on starting a family was unfair to women and the poor, I felt an instinctive aversion to it. That is the emotionally conditioned response that could override our responses to needs and instincts that make us want to reproduce. And if we rule out the biological 'instinct', which is strictly only to have sex and not to reproduce, my case for saying no to reproduction becomes much stronger.

That's right -- good old-fashioned family values are standing in the way of total sexual liberation, and reproduction is just another way of keeping womyn down. So, let's just abolish all reproduction!

Lest you think that this is some kind of anomaly among the feminists, check out the responses in the comment section, where almost none of the commenters disagreed. One even said:

This has got to be the best post I've ever seen on this website. I definitely agree that both nuclear families and reproduction have got to go. As long as parenting is seen as a private endeavor, there will always be child abuse and neglect that go unnoticed.

See, feminists like to use the word "choice" a lot, because it conjures all kinds of nice, warm, gooey feelings. They're not trying to tell everyone what to do, see, they just want to be able to "choose" their own path.

This is categorically untrue.

Modern feminism is no longer about equality or letting women choose their own paths; rather, modern feminism is a hate group that looks at all men as potential rapists and abusers, sees a traditional nuclear family as dangerous, wants to make stay-at-home mothers a permanent thing of the past, and wants to force all women to make the lifestyle choices they dictate they should have. There's no such thing as real choice in modern feminism -- what was once something noble has been perverted and distorted into something grotesque and Stalin-esque. There's only one correct way of living, and that's whatever way feminists say it is. This post, about ending all reproduction, is just another example. Even though most women feel called to motherhood and look at it as a positive thing and a blessing, feminists don't care. They know better than us uneducated yokels anyway.


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Be thankful these types DON... (Below threshold)
epador:

Be thankful these types DON't want to reproduce.

Most radical feminists that... (Below threshold)
LaMano:

Most radical feminists that I've seen should NOT reproduce. Even if some guy can consume enough alcohol to believe it was desirable.

I would laugh except a lot ... (Below threshold)

I would laugh except a lot of these hags end up teaching school, where they do their best to turn other's precious kids into leftist human-hating clones of themselves.

You want to screw up someone's life? Get your own child. Leave mine alone.

They sound like the ultimat... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

They sound like the ultimate "ME" generation. Hey girls, do us all a favor, take a pill and don't wake up. Mother Gaia will bless you! And the rest of us thankfully won't have to listen to your horseshit.

"...my case for saying no t... (Below threshold)
Herman:

"...my case for saying no to reproduction becomes much stronger." -- Sophisticated Cited Feminist

"They know better than us uneducated yokels anyway." -- Cassy

The trouble with intelligent, sophisticated feminists refusing to reproduce while crude rednecks feeling no such obligation is that future generation(s) may start skewing toward dumbness, thereby causing problems. The conservatives believe that some god or other instructed them to "be fruitful and multiply" so that's what they'll do, just like good bunnies. Sophisticated, intelligent liberals lead such full lives, striving to use their abundant abilities to make the world a better place, that they often don't have time for children.

Will liberals contracept themselves out of existence, with terrible consequences ensuing? I encourage liberals to at least consider having some children (say, replacement-level fertility). But the main means by which to prevent a future redneck-dominated world remains education. Just because a child has crude yokels for parents doesn't mean that that child can't be successfully taught to think significantly more deeply than his/her parents, and thereby avoid the affliction of being a conservative.


I recently read "Brave New ... (Below threshold)

I recently read "Brave New World," and that comment about parenting being a "private endeavor" chilled me to the bone.

All I can say is that if th... (Below threshold)
Hangtown Bob:

All I can say is that if these morons choose not to reproduce, it will definitely increase the collective IQ and ethos of the planet. Go for it, BABES!!!

Oh, Herman, you're a hoot.<... (Below threshold)
Synova:

Oh, Herman, you're a hoot.

And then you argue that your worthy people ought to reproduce... if they were so dang smart, don't you think they'd already know that without being told?

If reproduction is the smart thing to do, then how is a failure to reproduce a sign of enlightened intelligence?

You destroy your own argument and make a joke of your own assumptions.

"They know better ... (Below threshold)
Brett:
"They know better than us uneducated yokels anyway." -- Cassy

The trouble with intelligent, sophisticated feminists refusing to reproduce while crude rednecks feeling no such obligation is that future generation(s) may start skewing toward dumbness, thereby causing problems.,

Sadly, you are illustrating an interesting feature of leftist imbeciles such as yourself - you appear to be assuming that because these twits are hyper-leftist loons implies they are "intelligent" and "sophisticated". When in fact, being a liberal with this level of disconnection from reality means that you are really quite stupid AND ignorant. But it certainly explains all we need to know about you and your ilk. The pathetic self-proclaimed elitism drips off the page, which of course was Cassy's point in the first place.

Ironically, what you see as your "duty to future generations" is indeed a positive thing in the long run. The quicker that non-reproducing liberals die out, the better off the world will be.

I took my kids to a movie y... (Below threshold)
Synova:

I took my kids to a movie yesterday. I know I won't have many more of these opportunities as it's not a gaggle of toddlers any more, or even a bright lot of children, that I've got. They're all taller than me and soon will start heading off on their own.

Getting to go out with my brood won't be a pleasure I've got for much longer (though I'm looking forward to grandchildren.)

I told my oldest daughter how much pleasure I got from being out with them, because it was sort of like... look at my biological success, LOSERS. She thought that was funny.

Except for Kevin, Lori, and... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Except for Kevin, Lori, and Kim P., I've always had the distinct impression that this blog is staffed by various classes of celibates, including Cassie (in the Old Roman sense of the word, not in the Happy Hour sense, of course).
depp=true
noitz=Impress this

Modern feminism can be summ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Modern feminism can be summed up in 2 words. Abortion rights.

You can be a female self made billionaire, head of a country, won a medal of honor, and been single all your life but if you dont believe abortion is not a right to be used at any time, any place, any where than you are thrown to the curb by "feminists".

It is nice to see the disem... (Below threshold)
epador:

It is nice to see the disemvoweler still works and is applied appropriately at times.

"It is nice to see the dise... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

"It is nice to see the disemvoweler still works and is applied appropriately at times.
13. Posted by epador"

The "disemvoweler" AND the disappearer. The Widder Woman of Wizbang County.

Watch what you post bryanD.... (Below threshold)
maggie:

Watch what you post bryanD.
Assuming it's funny or okay to post on
anothers private life is beyond bounds.

On further thought, it's cl... (Below threshold)
Brett:

On further thought, it's clear to me that the original quoted article, and Herman's response to, provide clear proof of the essential truth about evolution. The unfit and unworthy die out.

And just wait - it won't be long before they liberal elite realize they are at an ecological disadvantage and start instituting programs to breed the "right" type of person. Say we call it "lebensborn" - the ultimate expression of current liberal thinking.

Brett

I don't post often so forgi... (Below threshold)
Guzalot:

I don't post often so forgive my ignorance here. I thought that Hermans post was brilliant satirical sarcasm when I read it. You mean he was actually serious?

Wow. Just...

wow

"Family is the social in... (Below threshold)

"Family is the social institution that ensures unpaid reproductive and domestic labour..."

This statement is out and out petulant selfish whining by the idiot who wrote it. It couldn't be any further from the truth if this person tried to do it. Once again, a "me oriented" person who thinks the world revolves around them.

I ought to know. I'm a stay-at-home Dad by choice, and I thoroughly enjoy it.

"Watch what you post bryanD... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

"Watch what you post bryanD.
Assuming it's funny or okay to post on
anothers private life is beyond bounds."
15. Posted by maggie

It might have been before your time, but Cassie's premier post here was accompanied by a photo of herself bra-less in a belly shirt. To inflate the nerds, yes, but her assumed identity, nonetheless.

So I twilight-zoned her to ancient Rome and subjected her to her own standards as a nubile out of production, viz. "babymakin'" [eye-roll- ed.], and thus an enemy of the state, where celibacy was a statutory offense; presumably only a step removed from the crux of Cassie's post.

Now, the Rome thing might seem a stretch, but the spirit of Roman law then coincides with the thesis of Cassie's rant today, namely, that the implied ethical and/or religious duty of all adults is to increase (ASAP)the greatest nation on (the) G/god(')s(') green earth, the nation being the people, of course. Which Cassie is forswearing, thus placing herself objectively with the crones on the left she is despising today. (And if C. does indeed have a brood I will forthwith, via Paypal, send 1.5M cyberbucks, c/o Cassie's hangout.)

Long-short: Cassie is a slacker under her own terms, however buried those terms are under a mound of rant. May I ascribe "South Park Conservative" to Cassie, with all its amusing anti-hippie anachronisms and satire floating miles above her head?
depp=true
notiz=You don't get it, so get this.

bryanD,shaddup. p... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

bryanD,

shaddup. please. Cassie wasn't the only one you were talking about. And if you are toasted right now, stop, before it's too late.

Herman-I have read... (Below threshold)
tyree:

Herman-

I have read a lot of hate on the internet but you win the prize for the week.
In my family the rednecks of my grandfathers generation who were all Democrats were followed by a generation of Republicans with Doctorate degrees. Our family left the Democrats behind because of their narrow minded thinking, racism and socialism.


As far as the article is concerned, I agree that feminists should generally not have children. Women who think that there is something "wrong" with men are poor candidates for adulthood, much less motherhood.

I'm with several of the peo... (Below threshold)

I'm with several of the people who beat me to the comments; I have no problem with these people not reproducing. Less femenazis and more consumer goodies for the rest of us is never a bad thing.

"But what if there were no ... (Below threshold)

"But what if there were no families? What if we say no to reproduction?"

What if we all just shriveled up and became fertilizer for some 'greater' species? Would that finally PLEASE these morons? Do they honestly not realize they are calling for the death of themselves?

Or are they so extremely shallow and narrow that they think "they" are somehow excluded from the family of man?


It's very important to enco... (Below threshold)
debbiesim:

It's very important to encourage people like this NOT to reproduce. In due course, they may become such a tiny minority, that their values don't matter anymore.

So what's the downside here... (Below threshold)
Steve Skubinna:

So what's the downside here? This person has just presented a self correcting problem. Nobody has to do anything, and she and anyone idiotic enough to buy her line is gone within a generation.

I know someone just like th... (Below threshold)
syn:

I know someone just like the feminist author of the 'humans are evil don't let them breed' mentality, she is a longtime speed-freak who has a PETA sticker on her car.

"What if we say no to repro... (Below threshold)
Red Five:

"What if we say no to reproduction?"

Go right ahead, lefty feminist nuts. We'll see how long you last.

I have my pride!<... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
I have my pride!

Pff! Since when?

Too bad the feministas can'... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Too bad the feministas can't just pack up and go like Code Stink who felt they had pissed off enough people to "make a difference".

The trouble with i... (Below threshold)
Baron Von Ottomatic:
The trouble with intelligent, sophisticated feminists refusing to reproduce while crude rednecks feeling no such obligation is that future generation(s) may start skewing toward dumbness, thereby causing problems.

What a visionary...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

Feminism is what it has alw... (Below threshold)
OLDPUPPYMAX:

Feminism is what it has always been...socialism/Marxism dressed up in a pro-female, anti-male front. This whack-job is first and foremost a radical Marxist. The NAG routine is the window dressing.

That's right -- go... (Below threshold)
That's right -- good old-fashioned family values are standing in the way of total sexual liberation, and reproduction is just another way of keeping womyn down. So, let's just abolish all reproduction!

If they hold true to this belief, the problem will sort of take care of itself within the next 40-50 years.

Screw 'em, they're irreleva... (Below threshold)
Tim:

Screw 'em, they're irrelevant. The future belongs first and foremost to those who bother to show up. If they don't want to reproduce, I'd call that a self-correcting problem.

Unfortunately, I tend to find that that people who think we should live in caves or not reproduce tend to exempt themselves from those requirements - after all, someone has to be around to witness how fair/environmentally conscious/equal the world they created is, right?

1) I don't mind a bit if ra... (Below threshold)
Bill Johnson:

1) I don't mind a bit if radical feminists don't reproduce. See abortion supporters - the 1 million that weren't born... since RVW. Soon we'll be rid of both these problems.

2) Do they not see the reductio ad absurdium in their argument? /rhetorical

Sadly enough, this lack of ... (Below threshold)
kevIN:

Sadly enough, this lack of reproduction seems to be happening already. I recently moved into a more upscale (well upscale to me) neighborhood. Out of the six couples in their mid 30s to early 40s only three of us have children. And only one child each.

Oddly enough, those without children have a dog or two.

Geez. Is it too m... (Below threshold)
Gonzo:

Geez.

Is it too much to hope these mental midgets might be inclined to lead by example?

For my part, I'd almost pay money to see a group of "enlightened" idiots like these line up to suck start a shotgun on Pay Per View "for the greater good."

On a broader scale the gene pool plainly would benefit from their voluntary departure from the natural selection process as well.

I expect this movement to d... (Below threshold)

I expect this movement to die out in a few years.

Literally.

"Civilization Is Sterilizat... (Below threshold)
Joao Solvero:

"Civilization Is Sterilization"

--Bernard Marx, Brave New World

If they don't want to repro... (Below threshold)
newton:

If they don't want to reproduce, fine with me. I'm very close to bring Little Girl #2 into the world, and I can tell you that I won't teach either of my girls the garbage she's spewing out of her mouth. And trust me when I say this: I heard all of that before. I graduated from a women's college. Unlucky me.

While the feminist non-reproducers grow old and alone, and begin collecting their SS and Medicare, maybe they should thank those who actually were "dumb enough" to reproduce and bring more people out there to work, so they can have their nice retirements. I'm sure that, by then, my little girls will look at their own little ones and say, "Boy, those women sure were dumb! Look what they've missed!" And, "Why are they having fun in their golden years at OUR expense? They never wanted their own children to pay for their own feminist stupidity, but they love to see ours do so in return."

hmmm... it would seem Darwi... (Below threshold)
joe:

hmmm... it would seem Darwinian natural selection happens every day... slowly... but surely... the olde school ways... will also have the most votes. I have no idea how men can oppress these poor folks more than they have shackled themselves.

I neve thought there was so... (Below threshold)
Tood:

I neve thought there was something that could make me actually WANT Islamic Sharia practices to make inroads into the West.

This type of feminism makes me want to cheer Islam on.

As long as parenting is ... (Below threshold)

As long as parenting is seen as a private endeavor, there will always be child abuse and neglect that go unnoticed.

I'm with BlueNight regarding this statement. The writer is definitely a FemiNazi.

What was it that Orwell sai... (Below threshold)
Mark:

What was it that Orwell said -- that is takes an intellectual to believe certain things -- that no ordinary person could be so insane.

Mark

As long as parenting is ... (Below threshold)
Radish:

As long as parenting is seen as a private endeavor, there will always be child abuse and neglect that go unnoticed.

Apparently no one was ever abused or neglected in a Soviet orphanage. Who knew?

"Thus as I realized how the... (Below threshold)
Xiphos:

"Thus as I realized how the cultural imperative on starting a family was unfair to women and the poor."

WTF?

Smoking ones underwear while "writing" this drivel, must have been imperative.

Actually, I think I'm with ... (Below threshold)
Mama73:

Actually, I think I'm with Newton here...

These radical "wymen" are actually oppressing all of us who have gone to the trouble to breed or adopt. They're expecting to live off the labor of our progeny.

...not that I actually want "wymen" like this to breed.

Perhaps there should be a special tax heaped upon the intentionally childless ones?

C

If intelligent, conscientio... (Below threshold)

If intelligent, conscientious people don't have children, what will the next generation look like? Anyone see "Idiocracy"?
http://www.rightklik.net/

Darwin is at work... (Below threshold)

Darwin is at work

"What if we all just shr... (Below threshold)

"What if we all just shriveled up and became fertilizer for some 'greater' species? Would that finally PLEASE these morons? Do they honestly not realize they are calling for the death of themselves?

"Or are they so extremely shallow and narrow that they think "they" are somehow excluded from the family of man?"

Donna, you have hit a nail there. Maybe you realize it, maybe not. But this is a point I have brought up so many times. Those who call for socialist or communist policies (and women like the author Cassie quotes who call for such drastic and unrealistic measures) always have a secret feeling that some how, some way, they will fare better than others. They imagine themselves "rulers", "revolutionaries". Every time they talk about equality, in they way they envision it, strangely, they become one of the "equal". And it never seems to pan out the way they envisioned it.

Unless they're willing to rule by force. And it takes brute force.

They never take into consideration the nature of man (and I use the term "man" in the most casual sense so as not to offend Herman and friends). Man's true nature is self-interest. And sometimes we form small cohesive units bent toward the same goal. They're called "families".

Unfortunately, those small cohesive units are breaking down. And with that we will all go.

The public education system... (Below threshold)
Ed Mullen:

The public education system has been subverted, infiltrated by socialists, who acting as educators, indoctrinate students in liberal ideology, thereby producing rights-seeking, needy persons who look to government for solutions and assistance. From such as these are derived abortion and environmental activists. Students who escape are a small minority, the ones whose parents take pains to counteract school brainwashing by involving them in church, sports, music and pro-life activies, better yet Home Schooling. Families like these produce strong, self-reliant, honest and moral young adults.

Anyone remember the book, "... (Below threshold)
happy mother:

Anyone remember the book, "Animal Farm" (I forget the author)? In the story, everyone was "equal," but some were more "equal" than others, and appointed themselves as the only ones worthy to make decisions for everyone else. As I recall, the pigs were one ones calling all the shots. Food for thought. . . .

The author is George Orwell... (Below threshold)
SavvyMom:

The author is George Orwell. I read that in school actually. Yes, and in the end, the pigs had become exactly who/what they had so forcefully fought against in the beginning. The pigs had turned themselves into the "rulers" because they thought the other animals "stupid" and unfit to make such important decisions as to who should do what.

I agree with everyone who has said this is somewhat a self-sorrecting problem, BUT not completely. These [obviously stupid] people end up throwing their opinions out into the world, and a lot of them are hell-bent on making sure that opinion is made more into common thought and practice. So yes, these people will die off within a generation but what about the people they have brainwashed??

It definitely IS an "it's all about me-me-me" attitude. These people feel like another life will screw up their own lives. Well let me tell you (I am currently impatiently waiting for baby #3!) when I am old and retired, I won't be the one sitting in a one bedroom apartment with eight cats to keep me company because i am LONELY! I'll be with my family, the children I raised, and maybe even one day grandkids if I am so blessed! So they can say that to be successful is to have lots of money, a great job, an incredible house, and anything else money can buy. I will stick to my idea that love will be the light in my house, NOT money.

"What have you done?" (Gene... (Below threshold)
Thomas M Giebel:

"What have you done?" (Genesis 4:10): The eclipse of the value of life

Pope John Paul II referred to today's culture as the 'Culture of Death.' He called on good people everywhere to evangelize in the name of Christ and to 'be not afraid' when encountering evil and sin. The encyclical Evangelium Vitae should be required reading. To those who oppose the 'Culture of Life,' reading this encyclical would be like throwing water on the Wicked Witch of the West.

http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_jp02ev.htm

Ignorance is bliss, it's a ... (Below threshold)
Jonny:

Ignorance is bliss, it's a burden having the capacity to see things as they really are. A bit of gloat there yes but more matter of fact. Here's a profile of the predominant type of woman I see growing in our society:

Once innocent she falls prey to the type of man looking to enhance his sense of power. Gullible she thinks these parasitical "relationships" are loving and normal. It happens over and over again because the thrill from that pain and hurt drags her into the same type of man's arms (personally I like to call it a "bad energy pattern"). Instead of confronting the hurt, she slaps the "bad" label on all men instead of just the men she's only ever known.

Either she joins the feminist movement as a desperate grab to redeem the personal power she herself has thrown away, or she finds other ways to help her sense of personal power (such as clothes, cosmetics, sports, seduction, a Ph.D., all good things but for the wrong reasons). Feminism becomes fuel for her unchecked wounds. Her thoughts become mutated and perverted and she becomes a weapon.

And a message for other women struggling with relationships. This may or may not apply to you: Set aside your desire for attraction and passion and go out of your way to get to know a plain-old less-than-fantastic average joe, specifically the underappreciated one. This will be excellent medicine for that pesky disease known as tunnel-vision. If you have a real problem with less than attractive men, then this is a strong sign that you don't actually know anything about them, and let's face it, nobody likes to run through life in the dark.

I have been thinking about ... (Below threshold)

I have been thinking about this too, wondering why Justice Bertha Wilson of the Supreme Court of Canada in 1988 stated that men are disqualified from commenting about abortion because only women could decide such matters. It isn't men who are disqualified from commenting about such issues, just heterosexual men, because homosexual groups are overwhelmingly pro-abortion and their support isn't disqualified.

>>So they can say that to b... (Below threshold)
suek:

>>So they can say that to be successful is to have lots of money, a great job, an incredible house, and anything else money can buy.>>

Has anyone besides me ever wondered what's going to happen to the "lots of money, incredible house and anything else money can buy" when these libs die and have no children to leave their acquisitions to? Either some charities or the government are going to benefit greatly...

>>Has anyone besides me eve... (Below threshold)
Jonny:

>>Has anyone besides me ever wondered what's going to happen to the "lots of money, incredible house and anything else money can buy" when these libs die and have no children to leave their acquisitions to?

Yes I have and I feel no qualms openly joking about it: "I think the end of the world is good. I'll just wait patiently for all the hysterical pansies to finish screaming and die-off so that for the first time in my life on this planet I can finally experience a little sensible peace & quiet."




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