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Breaking: Bush commutes sentences of Compean and Ramos

At last!

President George W. Bush has commuted the prison sentences of two former Border Patrol guards whose convictions for shooting a Mexican drug dealer ignited debate about illegal immigration.

Bush's act of clemency on Monday for Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean was a victory for Democratic and Republican members of Congress and others who pleaded with the president to pardon the men or at least commute their sentences.

According to Fox News, their sentences will expire on March 20th.

Michelle Malkin notes that it's a surprise from an open borders administration. Indeed. Bush's stance on illegal immigration and amnesty was his greatest disappointment in my mind.


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It's about time! I'm glad ... (Below threshold)
Carol:

It's about time! I'm glad President Bush commuted their sentences. I've been frustrated with so much he's done these past several months that it's refreshing to hear this great news.

P.S. However, they should ... (Below threshold)
Carol:

P.S. However, they should have been full pardons.

Great news indeed. I was s... (Below threshold)
wordsmith:

Great news indeed. I was sweating buckets, as things got down to the wire here on twilighting the Bush Presidency.

Michelle Malkin notes that it's a surprise from an open borders administration.

I think "open borders" is a bit of a hyperbole, Sí?

Everyone should read Andy M... (Below threshold)
Baron Von Ottomatic:

Everyone should read Andy McCarthy's piece on Compean and Ramos from NRO a while back.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTQ4OWJjZTNmODMwNzhlMzA2MzZhYzJmYWM2NjBkYzI=

Frankly, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them. The only positive is they will never work in law enforcement again.

It's about time! I'm gla... (Below threshold)
Justice58:

It's about time! I'm glad President Bush commuted their sentences. I've been frustrated with so much he's done these past several months that it's refreshing to hear this great news.


For the life of me....I can't understand someone praising officers of trying to cover up a murder. They abused their authority.


Oh wait....

I'll give Bush half a point... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

I'll give Bush half a point. To be a released felon with celebrity status is 10x better than being an inmate in a human zoo, but Ramos and Campeon should be granted full pardons. I guess the Bush-Sutton family relationship couldn't stand that, though.
Now we await the other shoe(s) to drop. I'm thinking along the lines of the pending AIPAC "spy" trial (the quotation marks are Fox's, of course).

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,280172,00.html

Murder an unarmed Mexican -... (Below threshold)
Herman:

Murder an unarmed Mexican -- get your sentence commuted! Hey, killing unarmed Mexicans is something Jesus would heartily approve of, something Jesus himself would do, right, conservatives?

Alright, my mistake, the Me... (Below threshold)
Herman:

Alright, my mistake, the Mexican was just injured, not murdered.

"I can't understand some... (Below threshold)

"I can't understand someone praising officers of trying to cover up a murder."

Typical of Justice58 to get the facts wrong and to be on the wrong side of the issue. Just as Justice58 was wrong about the Duke LaCrosse "case".

Bush's stance on illegal... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

Bush's stance on illegal immigration and amnesty was his greatest disappointment in my mind.

Really? Not... I dunno... a failure to prevent 9/11? Not his failure to kill or apprehend the perpetrator of the attack? Not his response to Katrina, which ruined the GOP's prospects at the federal level for a generation?

Unless you think like the u... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Unless you think like the ultra liberalist canadian Hyper, I agree that GW's open borders goal was a disappointment that if enacted would have drove the final nail in the coffin of this country.

Of course Just Ice and Herman react without even knowing the facts. I am glad their sentences were commuted and not pardoned. They did shoot the guy under less then clear reasons, but I did not want them to suffer for the very frustrating situation along the border.

Just Ice, are you stupid or just ignorant? ww

Typical of Justice58 to ... (Below threshold)
Justice58:

Typical of Justice58 to get the facts wrong and to be on the wrong side of the issue. Just as Justice58 was wrong about the Duke LaCrosse "case".

Well, the officers did shoot them and tried to cover it up by tampering with evidence.


Are you speaking of Roy Cooper's report concerning the lacrosse case?


BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


Did you hear Crystal at her Press Conference?
I did. And I remember exactly what she said.

Enough for me!

"I dunno... a failure to... (Below threshold)

"I dunno... a failure to prevent 9/11?"

That's Bill Clinton's failure. One in which the MSM (2008 Idiotarian Award winner) wished would've happened during his administration, BTW.

"Not his failure to kill or apprehend the perpetrator of the attack?"

That's not much of a failure, IMHO, regardless of who's in office. I'd rather we win the war and not this minor battle, although it would be nice to kill or apprehend the perpetrator.

"Not his response to Katrina, which ruined the GOP's prospects at the federal level for a generation?"

Although Bush's response to Katrina was slow and insufficient, the response of the local and state governments involved was atrocious, which were controlled by Democrats. The difference being, the media played up Bush's response and largely ignored local and state abject failures.

So given that, yes, his stance on immigration and amnesty are great disappointments, although it shouldn't be surprising. He's a neoconservative, not a true conservative.

"Well, the officers did ... (Below threshold)

"Well, the officers did shoot them and tried to cover it up by tampering with evidence."

And it wasn't murder, was it? Interesting you have a problem with "abuse of authority" and "tampering with evidence", unless of course it happens to be Mike Nifong. Hmmmmmm...I wonder why?

As for the rest of your lunacy, just where is Mike Nifong nowadays? Oh yeah. He was disbarred. BTW, here's what Cooper stated:

On April 11 Cooper announced that all charges in the case would be dropped and that "based on the significant inconsistencies between the evidence and the various accounts given by the accusing witness, we believe these three individuals are innocent of these charges". He referred to Nifong as a "rogue" prosecutor.

Good enough for me...and the rest of the world, of course. Except for you and the lying scumbag (which is in effect, what Cooper called her, and justifiably so)...ummm...what's her name again? Oh yeah. "Crystal".

Murder an unarmed Mexican -... (Below threshold)
left wing ZEROs:

Murder an unarmed Mexican -- get your sentence commuted! Hey, killing unarmed Mexicans is something Jesus would heartily approve of, something Jesus himself would do, right, conservatives?__________________________________


First off you ANUS, they did not kill the guy. However they should have walked up and put a bullet in the back of his drug running head!! Maybe next time!

Tom,An Attorney Ge... (Below threshold)
Justice58:

Tom,

An Attorney General declaring someone innocent? Come on...


I remember what Crystal stated at her press conference....


Go Crystal!

The blockquote from Cooper ... (Below threshold)

The blockquote from Cooper came from here. I obviously forgot to include the link earlier, so apologies for that.

J58:Say what you w... (Below threshold)

J58:

Say what you want. You discredit yourself each and every time you comment. The rest of the world believes those guys were innocent. I hope they get every penny they asked for from their lawsuits...and more.

As for Compean and Ramos, I'm glad they had their sentences commuted; they've served their time.

I was just wondering what J... (Below threshold)
Carol:

I was just wondering what Justice58 does for a living. Anyone know? In all the time I spend on the Internet I've never come across someone so angry after his guy won. Can't wait to read what he has to say when Obama ticks him off.

Carol:Who cares? ... (Below threshold)

Carol:

Who cares? ;-)

hyper - "Really? Not...... (Below threshold)
Marc:

hyper - "Really? Not... I dunno... a failure to prevent 9/11? Not his failure to kill or apprehend the perpetrator of the attack?"

OK, it would be very informative to us peons if you could outline in detail just what you would have done between say, Sept 01 and Sept 10 the prevent WTC attack.


As a gentile reminder it has to be based on facts known by the Bush admin at the time not some fantastical dream scenario you might concoct.

Secondly, if OBL is so damn important I'd suggest you, and for that matter the nutcase j58 listen to the words of your new "Savior" B. Hussien Obama as quoted just a couple days ago:

Barack Obama suggested last night that removing Osama bin Laden from the battlefield was no longer essential and that America's security goals could be achieved merely by keeping al-Qaeda "on the run".

"My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him," he said. "But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America." Well now, all we've heard for the last few years from the yappy loud-mouthed far left is how Bush couldn't get OBL and that it should be a simple job considering he's "hold up in a cave someplace, how hard can it be?"

Just wondering what makes s... (Below threshold)
Carol:

Just wondering what makes someone so hateful. I was headed in that direction during this election but decided it wasn't worth the stomach ache, etc.

And I forgot to add... forg... (Below threshold)
Marc:

And I forgot to add... forget your loony "Gitmo Dreams," fostered by B., Hussien Obama's claim to issue an executive order in the first week of his term to close the place.

It may be issued, but according the The Messiah himself Gitmos doors will be open until at least the end of his first term.

In a wide-ranging 70-minute interview with Washington Post reporters and editors, the president-elect pledged quick action on the Middle East once he takes office, promised to support voting rights for D.C. residents, and said he will consider it a failure if he has not closed the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by the end of his first term in office.

Anything less than full par... (Below threshold)
Seastar:

Anything less than full pardon for these security border guards is a disgrace against the Nation. Considering all the deals made with the known drug dealer by federal legal agent Johnny Sutton, Ramos and Campeon more than deserved a pardon - not merely commutation for time served. Not very honorable a disposition of this matter. I'm saddened for our County with decisions to protect long-time friends instead of standing up and Daring to be a Daniel, even if it meant standing alone in a righteous manner.

Marc,You're pitifu... (Below threshold)
Justice58:

Marc,

You're pitiful. Bush had 8 years to get Bin Laden AND even took his eyes off of Afghanistan and started a War in Iraq. So don't even come with that bs you've written.

Carol: You have a lot of nerves asking about my personal life. Very ill-mannered.

Justice58, you really are a... (Below threshold)
Carol:

Justice58, you really are a jerk. I can ask whatever the heck I want to ask. Heck, if I'm ill-mannered, I can't even write what you are. Get a life.

even if it meant standin... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

even if it meant standing alone in a righteous manner.

You mean like taking responsibility for your actions and not illegally covering up your mistakes?

Give us a break already. A full pardon was in no way suitable for these two rogue cops. They should be grateful with a commuted sentence.

Their actions that day may have been misguided and somewhat excusable given the situation, but their subsequent cover-up was criminal.

j58, clueless buffoon that ... (Below threshold)
Marc:

j58, clueless buffoon that you are, can't even recognize who's words are whose.

Clue: Not my words nitwit, those are the quoted words of B. Hussein Obama, to reiterate and clarify for the intellectually impaired, obama's words were: "removing Osama bin Laden from the battlefield was no longer essential and that America's security goals could be achieved merely by keeping al-Qaeda "on the run".

OMG...I missed this little ... (Below threshold)

OMG...I missed this little gem, LOL:

"An Attorney General declaring someone innocent? Come on..."

Yeah...I'll take the word of someone who has infinitely more credibility over a well-known liar throwing accusations around at a press conference. Any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

As I said. Say whatever you want. You discredit yourself every time you comment.

Justice58, you really ar... (Below threshold)
Justice58:

Justice58, you really are a jerk. I can ask whatever the heck I want to ask. Heck, if I'm ill-mannered, I can't even write what you are. Get a life.

Carol,

Have you no manners? One does not pry into another's personal life. Where is your upbringing? Ugh. Now that's what you'd call disgusting.


Ignore Just Ice, he is a homosexual welfare king.


Wildone,

I don't roll like that! End of Story. Once again...I am female. You mean...You don't know the difference?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah...I'll take the wor... (Below threshold)
Justice58:

Yeah...I'll take the word of someone who has infinitely more credibility over a well-known liar throwing accusations around at a press conference. Any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Pray tell? When have you ever heard of that happening before?

Roy Cooper gave his opinion. It's like a d#mn nose, everyone has one!


The case should have went to trial to determine guilt or not guilty.

There is no such thing as a "Declaration of Innocence" in the Judicial System. It's either guilty or not guilty at trial. There was no trial!


There is no such thing a... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

There is no such thing as a "Declaration of Innocence" in the Judicial System. It's either guilty or not guilty at trial. There was no trial!

And rightfully so you half-wit. There was nothing to try them on with the exception of the ever-changing stories of a drunk stripper. Saying nothing of the various alibis of the wrongfully accused.

Carol,Have yo... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
Carol,

Have you no manners? One does not pry into another's personal life. Where is your upbringing? Ugh. Now that's what you'd call disgusting.

I suppose parroting yourself as well as others is just another way to meet that quota (shyte). You insult others claiming they "started it", then reach back around with the same complaint. Now you can go bi-polar again with your weepy and teary baloney on the inauguration thread.

j58 - "There is no such... (Below threshold)
Marc:

j58 - "There is no such thing as a "Declaration of Innocence" in the Judicial System. It's either guilty or not guilty at trial. There was no trial!"

Correct, there was no trial for good reason, not the least of which was the accusation was made by a drunken prosti, zero DNA evidence, and rock solid alibis for the accused.

But j58, that never stopped you from making and utter fool of your self to the very end did it?

suppose parroting yours... (Below threshold)
Justice58:

suppose parroting yourself as well as others is just another way to meet that quota (shyte). You insult others claiming they "started it", then reach back around with the same complaint.

She was prying into my business, which is rude. I called her on it. What's the problem?

Well, it should be obvious ... (Below threshold)

Well, it should be obvious by now that Justice58 uses emotion, rather than critical thinking and...oh, I don't know...factual information, to form her loony opinions.

Anyway...I think commutation was the best anyone could hope for in the Compean and Ramos case, as Bush wasn't going to step on the toes of Johnny Sutton, the prosecutor. Even he thought the punishment was too much. A pardon would have been a complete and public repudiation of Sutton; the commutations allow the relationship between Bush and Sutton to continue unharmed.

Good for Bush.<a hre... (Below threshold)

Good for Bush.
http://www.rightklik.net/

Now you can go bi-polar... (Below threshold)
Justice58:

Now you can go bi-polar again with your weepy and teary baloney on the inauguration thread.


I certainly will be crying joyous tears. I will be celebrating all day & into the night as well. It's so exciting. "At Last"!

President Barack Obama, Baby!

President Barack O... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
President Barack Obama, Baby!

You poor thing. Far be it from me to destroy your euphoric shill commenting. It just dawned on me you won't even understand when the U.S. switches over to the Amero in order to demonetize the dollar. Very few really know what it means. Sad. Okay, then.

Our government does not alw... (Below threshold)
bbrjr:

Our government does not always stand behind those protecting us. Our gov. chose to set an example with these to men. What they did was make it harder and more dangerous for Border Patrol Agents to do the job safley. And to think the victin/witness was caught smuggling 750 lbs of marijuana soon after all of this happened. Hopefully the Union for the men will not relent in getting those men true justice.

"Roy Cooper gave his opi... (Below threshold)

"Roy Cooper gave his opinion. It's like a d#mn nose, everyone has one!"

Not just any opinion. The opinion of the Prosecuting Attorney on the case, which is all that matters. And again, one infinitely more credible than one of a well-known liar.

Not just any opinion. Th... (Below threshold)
Justice58:

Not just any opinion. The opinion of the Prosecuting Attorney on the case, which is all that matters. And again, one infinitely more credible than one of a well-known liar.

Tom,

You know as well as I do, that an opinion is not worth the paper it's written on.


Did you hear Crystal's press conference? I remember what she stated very boldly at that press conference.


It's enough for me.


Did you hear Cryst... (Below threshold)
Did you hear Crystal's press conference? I remember what she stated very boldly at that press conference.

Except for most everything she said turned out to be lies.

It's enough for me.

Lies usually are, to the willfully ignorant.

Who would believe a drug ad... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Who would believe a drug addicted, stripper and protitute? Oh! Another one. That's who. ww

"You know as well as I d... (Below threshold)

"You know as well as I do, that an opinion is not worth the paper it's written on."

When the opinion is yours, and the opinion is "Crystal's", that's certainly true. When the opinion is the Prosecuting Attorney representing the people, including her...it's worth a lot. Worth enough to completely exonerate three innocent young men. Unfortunately for you and for "Crystal".

"Did you hear Crystal's press conference? I remember what she stated very boldly at that press conference."

Sure, I heard it. Most liars are very bold. They have to be, because the facts aren't on their side.

"It's enough for me."

It was enough for a lot of idiots like you. Fortunately for the rest of us who have brains, and especially for the three innocent men, the facts of the "case" were brought to light.

Thank God false accusations aren't enough to send the innocent to jail. Thank God your opinion doesn't count, except as an example to be ridiculed.

Your continued willful ignorance doesn't really surprise me, though. Good night and go have fun celebrating your coming communist America with the rest of the useful idiots out there.

"Our government does not... (Below threshold)

"Our government does not always stand behind those protecting us. Our gov. chose to set an example with these to men. What they did was make it harder and more dangerous for Border Patrol Agents to do the job safley."

Well said and very unfortunate. At least they'll be out of prison soon.

This is still a travesty. S... (Below threshold)
Ken Hahn:

This is still a travesty. Sutton got Aldrete Davila to lie to get a conviction. Ramos and Compean were Nifonged and should have been pardoned, or better yet never tried. I can forgive Bush for most of the mistakes of his term, but not this political prosecution.

Willie, you should probably... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

Willie, you should probably knock it off with the racist, sexist, homophobic stereotyping. If you stopped leaving such putrid little comments throughout threads you might give people an opportunity to forget how stupid and awful you are. (By awful, I mean awful at writing, and possessing an awful character/set of values.)

Ken, not that I am sympathe... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

Ken, not that I am sympathetic to any illegal immigrant drug dealer, in fact, I hope he one day rots in fire and brimstone, but answer me this.

Why the cover-up after the shooting? Why the lies from the 2 agents? If the guy had a gun why the need to hide your efforts to defend yourself?

The ignorance of the people... (Below threshold)
Semper Fi:

The ignorance of the people posting and the effectiveness of lies spread by Atty: Johnny Sutton A.K.A Johnny Satan astounds me...

1) Go research before you judge.. THERE WAS NO COVER UP!!! Their supervisors knew what had a happened as they were called to the scene.
2) Atty. Satan never let the jury know that the illegal alien was a known drug smuggler. How would the outcome been then sports fans?
3)One of the other border agents was a family friend of the a$$hole drug smuggle, hence the reason this came to trial. Shouldn't they investigate the border agent's association with the drug smuggler??
4) Prez Bush is a traitorous a$$hole... he was pushing for this conviction.

yeah though i walk through the valley of stupidity... I fear no ignorance.

Nice Semper, a compelling a... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

Nice Semper, a compelling argument indeed. /sarcasm.




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