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***Updated***

At noon, George W. Bush turns over power to Barack Obama. After the oaths have been sworn and the speeches have been given, when everyone else in DC is thoroughly wasted on Obamamania, the Bushes will head back to Texas and begin leading their lives as private citizens.

Most Americans will turn their attention to other things in their lives, whether they be their new president, their families, or their jobs. A small portion of the American population, though, will still be doing what they've been doing for the past 8 years: hating Bush. Getting off hatred won't be easy for them. Like most addicts, their bodies and brains have been steeped in hatred for so long, they simply can't walk away from it. Some don't want to walk away from it; their hatred has been their sole purpose in life since Bush came into office.

These people are using the inauguration to display their hatred of Bush, either not realizing or not caring that the day isn't about him. Scroll all the way down and take a look at the folks who've donned the Abu Ghraib attire.

Some are dismayed that Bush and others in his administration won't be prosecuted. It seems protecting us from blood thirsty terrorists is a crime in these people's small, closed minds.

William McGurn at the Wall Street Journal says he knows why some in the Beltway hate Bush:

In a few hours, George W. Bush will walk out of the Oval Office for the last time as president. As he leaves, he carries with him the near-universal opprobrium of the permanent class that inhabits our nation's capital. Yet perhaps the most important reason for this unpopularity is the one least commented on.

Here's a hint: It's not because of his failures. To the contrary, Mr. Bush's disfavor in Washington owes more to his greatest success. Simply put, there are those who will never forgive Mr. Bush for not losing a war they had all declared unwinnable.

This is a very interesting point, and one that sounds more right than wrong. Anchoress comments on another liberal making a similar comment:


To this day I cannot forget Ellen Ratner saying to Linda Vestor "we'll just have to hope Iraq goes wrong so we can get back into the White House". The mindset still stuns me.


It does me, too. Of course, it doesn't help that silly people in the media overplay the transition of power in such a way that it demeans and wholly misrepresents President Bush's presidency.

And unfortunately, some who say they're on our side are similarly hoping for Obama's failure. And no respect for those who don't go along with their group think:

Many American Christians believe, as an article of faith, that we are to pray for the success of our leaders.

It has become a sort of conventional wisdom among soft-minded believers.

I disagree with virtually all of the policies and programs Obama campaigned on. But it seems he has backed off of some of those regarding national security since winning last November. Being responsible for the safety and well being of over 300 million Americans can put a bit of damper on pacifist-leaning rhetoric espoused during the heat of the campaign trail. Nonetheless, there are still many very liberal domestic policies I hope Barack Obama fails to implement. That doesn't mean I hope he fails as a president, unlike the Bush haters of the past 8 years who will probably still be Bush haters even as he settles into retirement in Texas and Obama's administration moves full steam ahead.

Update: Ed Morrissey's comments encapsulate my thoughts nicely:

Best of luck, President Obama. My prayers are with you, for support and wisdom as you assume the burden of this office and lead our country. When you fail to provide that leadership or demonstrate wisdom, though, don't expect me to be silent. I'm rooting for America, not the coach.

Regarding those who are praying for Obama to fail, the Anchoress reminds us what's at stake when hate consumes thoughts and words, and it's not just because it's bad for the country:

Sorry, I can't go along with "praying for Obama's failure." I don't believe in negative prayers; there is no negative in Christ.

I can pray, however, that Obama's heart be turned away from political expediency and the pop-culture-glamor excesses to that which best serves our nation.

Such a prayer requires trusting that God knows more than I do, and that what I "think" will be best for the nation at any given moment may not be what God thinks - or, that what I want to see is not what must happen, for the very "best" thing to occur.

To pray for President Obama to "fail" would be exactly like those haters on the left, who wanted the economy to fail, who wanted our young people killed in Iraq, who wanted nothing but bad to happen for Bush. Might be emotionally satisfying to pursue that for a day or two, but that's a prayer that would ultimately be bad for the nation, and bad for my soul.


Update II:
Andrew Breitbart's Big Hollywood is already serving its purpose. He offers great commentary on many Hollywood liberals' willingness to viciously undermine and attack not only President Bush but our troops and our country itself. Now that Obama is president, they suddenly feel the desire to be good Americans and unite our country. And they have the nerve to lecture us on how to do it, too.

Update III: Will Obama's inauguration cure the cases of BDS out there? Noel Sheppard, like me, predicts no.

Update IV: Jeremy Lott at the Guardian puts his closed little mind on display.

Update V: Obama supporters at the Inaugural can't even keep their hate for Bush in check long enough to be respectful at their own guy's victory party. It's not surprising, as so many on the left are perpetual adolescents. The commentators at MSNBC remarked that the crowd's behavior was bad form, but for 8 years these same commentators led by example.

Hat tip: Hot Air

Sister Toldjah explains the difference between street BDS and elite BDS. Both forms are ugly and shameful.

I do not expect that my words here to move the Bush haters into rational thought for they cannot be moved. Their hatred seems to be permanently imprinted, tattooed onto their shriveled little minds.


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Comments (60)

Full steam ahead to what? S... (Below threshold)
MPR:

Full steam ahead to what? Socialism and a total nanny state? Obamalala as president is charged with defending this country. I don't need the government to tell me what to pay my employees and pay more for them or take more in taxes from me. Part of protecting this country is keeping the economy strong and I have seen nothing that tells me he will do what is needed.

As I said MPR, I hope he fa... (Below threshold)

As I said MPR, I hope he fails to implement his liberal domestic policies.

Gotcha Kim. I was speaking ... (Below threshold)
MPR:

Gotcha Kim. I was speaking more to Conservatives and Christians that want to give him a chance. A chance? There is to much at stake for a chance.
For example, The Freedom of Choice Act for one, that Obamalala supports and will sign, allows for funding of the hideous partial birth abortion on demand, among other things. I have heard many people try to justify supporting that but, you cannot be a Christian and support someone who believes and supports that. I've heard them all.

I agree with you whole hear... (Below threshold)

I agree with you whole heartedly on the FOCA. It's an abomination. Catholic hospitals may close their doors over it.

At least Bush was smart eno... (Below threshold)
Brad:

At least Bush was smart enough to be able to repeat small phrases. Should have been a teleprompter for the new president, I guess.

Hold off on that 'no prosec... (Below threshold)
hermie:

Hold off on that 'no prosecution'. the One has lots owing to Soros and his MoveOn faction of the Democrat party. The scheme is to hold 'hearings', 'fact finding panels', etc and to keep harassing ex-administration members as well as Bush himself with countless demands for documents, testimony, so as to divert from the real problems at hand.

Kim,Love the headl... (Below threshold)

Kim,

Love the headline. I think you could've shortened the entire article to just 5 words after it, though:

Just go to Wizbang Blue.

Hermie, you are most likely... (Below threshold)
Allen:

Hermie, you are most likely correct about prosecution. And as for some people still hating Bush, well that also can be said that some people still hating Clinton, right?

We will be living in interesting times, just hope we can all survive those times.

"Getting off hatred won't b... (Below threshold)
ryan a:

"Getting off hatred won't be easy for them. Like most addicts, their bodies and brains have been steeped in hatred for so long, they simply can't walk away from it. Some don't want to walk away from it; their hatred has been their sole purpose in life since Bush came into office."

You know, I disagree with you often Kim. But on this point I agree with you completely. Interestingly, the same people who repeatedly attack conservatives for being intolerant and single-minded, have been doing the same damn thing for years.

Intolerance abounds on all sides of the political spectrum.

"That doesn't mean I hope he fails as a president, unlike the Bush haters of the past 8 years who will probably still be Bush haters even as he settles into retirement in Texas and Obama's administration moves full steam ahead."

I respect your decision to rise above the partisan madness. I think it is fully possible to disagree without resorting to the kinds of tactics that have been far too common, on both sides, for the past decade or so.

Not much has changed for me... (Below threshold)
syn:

Not much has changed for me today.

I have always loved my country and her flag, tried to be happy no matter who is president, lived my life as far from government nannies as I possibly can, don't have children or grandchildren who will be picking up the entitlement bill and so far, the incoming President is retaining all of the national security tools President Bush put into place.

If the incoming President doesn't maintain the high level of security Americans have come to enjoy over the last seven years then his presidency will be a failure and everything else he wants to change won't matter.

Obama has some big shoes to fill in keeping his pledge to secure this nation; he hope he is capable.

Good luck Obama, you're going to need it.

Some people will go to thei... (Below threshold)

Some people will go to their graves with a seething hatred for GWB.
http://www.rightklik.net/

Kim, I have tried to be a c... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Kim, I have tried to be a civil citizen of this great country for 58 years. I remember a time when liberals and conservatives can be in the same room and discuss politics and even joke about it, but in 2000 the left tossed out ANY semblance of civility. They unmercifully pounded and pounded and pounded GW and his wife and kids. Degrading, demeaning and disgraceful comments.

Now Barry is president and the left wants me to be civil. Share in the unity of our president. The left must think I am foolish. They put up the goal posts now they have to play by the game they created. The left has been and is a disgrace as witnessed by the lefties at the festivities today.

I will not be lectured on etiquette from the left. They created this monster, now they have to put up with it. ww

One can hope he does right ... (Below threshold)

One can hope he does right by the country while at the same time hoping he fails in his personal mandate. His personal mandate is bad for the country, but he is still the president, and still holds the reins.

RG

"Now Barry is president and... (Below threshold)
ryan a:

"Now Barry is president and the left wants me to be civil. Share in the unity of our president. The left must think I am foolish. They put up the goal posts now they have to play by the game they created. The left has been and is a disgrace as witnessed by the lefties at the festivities today."

While I understand your reaction to the ways that many on the left have behaved, I think it's unfortunate that you are letting certain intolerant liberals define how you comport yourself politically.

I am more on the liberal side of the fence in many ways, but I have run headlong into the extreme left--and I was not impressed. At. All.

In the end, I do not agree with your basic premise: "They did it, so I am going to do it right back." My argument: rise above it.

Still, I can understand your position.

Share in the unity ... (Below threshold)
Hansel2:

Share in the unity of our president. The left must think I am foolish.

Stings like a b___h, don't it?

ryan a, do not try to tell ... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

ryan a, do not try to tell me only the extreme left behaved that way. I can name many mainstream liberals that were just disgusting in their lack of respect for President Bush.

Now the same left wants us to respect the office and "give" Barry a chance for the good of the nation. Well, I have to say, that ship has sailed. After 8 very long years of constantly pounding on our president, I fail to see the need to support yours. ww

I dunno. Success is define... (Below threshold)

I dunno. Success is defined as "the achievement of something desired, planned or attempted". Obama's success would lead to increased access to abortion, socialized healthcare, higher taxes, and all that other liberal stuff he stands for. Why on earth should I pray for his success?

No, I hope he fails in that respect. I can't think of anything he's said he wants to do that I would hope to see him succeed at. I want my country to succeed. Unfortunately, I don't think we can do that with the most liberal president we've ever had in office. I'll pray for him to change his mind, and for his safety and wisdom as the figurehead of this nation, but I won't pray for his success. Sorry. Can't do it. As a Christian, I'm required to pray not for a leader's success, but for his soul.

Ryan said: "They ... (Below threshold)
Paul_In_Houston:

Ryan said:
"They did it, so I am going to do it right back."My argument: rise above it.

Sir: I can agree with you, as long as you understand the sheer mind-boggling hypocrisy of the left asking us to do so after eight solid years of their behavior.

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"ryan a, do not try to tell... (Below threshold)
ryan a:

"ryan a, do not try to tell me only the extreme left behaved that way. I can name many mainstream liberals that were just disgusting in their lack of respect for President Bush."

that's a good point. plenty of people bought into an overly simplistic assessment of our political system and blamed Bush, as if he was the only person who was making decisions. Many people also conveniently forgot that our government has always been composed of Democrats AND Republicans. Blaming one side, is, well, ridiculous.

"Now the same left wants us to respect the office and "give" Barry a chance for the good of the nation. Well, I have to say, that ship has sailed. After 8 very long years of constantly pounding on our president, I fail to see the need to support yours. ww"

So, you've got your mind made up. That's your choice. In my view, you are choosing to act exactly like the people that you deplore. I don't see the point. Seems like you would want to disassociate yourself from that kind of behavior, especially if you found it so abominable.

But, do you as you must...

Paul,"Sir: I can a... (Below threshold)
ryan a:

Paul,

"Sir: I can agree with you, as long as you understand the sheer mind-boggling hypocrisy of the left asking us to do so after eight solid years of their behavior."

Oh, I completely agree with you there. Absolutely mind-boggling. Many people shift from one form of extremism to another.

""Now the same left wants u... (Below threshold)
ryan a:

""Now the same left wants us to respect the office and "give" Barry a chance for the good of the nation. Well, I have to say, that ship has sailed. After 8 very long years of constantly pounding on our president, I fail to see the need to support yours. ww""

One more willie. By no means am I saying that you should rally behind a president that you disagre with. If you disagree, then by all means I think you should voice your opinion, dissent, and speak your mind. That's part of a healthy system. So don't confuse what I am saying here, at all.

Hell, I think that anyone who disagrees should keep speaking their minds. But they should do so in as productive a way as possible (and this is where many on the left fell off the boat). Criticism is vital to democracy.

I AM saying that adopting the behavior of the people who you abhor doesn't make any sense, IMO. Also, while I understand your anger at the left, I certainly do not understand why you are letting them affect how you choose to act.

"A small portion of the ... (Below threshold)
Herman:

"A small portion of the American population, though, will still be doing what they've been doing for the past 8 years: hating Bush" -- Kim

IT WAS NOT THE ENTIRE 8 YEARS -- that "portion"actually was actually extremely small immediately after September 11th, 2001. I, of course, was a part of that "portion" (upset with the stolen election and it taking a a hell of a lot more to impress me than using a bullhorn for empty promises of "dead or alive"), but there weren't many of us back then. Remember Bush's approval ratings then (90%+)? So you have to ask yourself, what did Bush do since that time that led to the record disapproval levels? (That is, that led that "portion" to no longer be "small").

It was the deceit, the lies one after the other, the illegal war with all its dead and with all its refugees, the phantom mushroom clouds, the "truly not that concerned" about those who attacked us, the environmental degradation, the torture, the warrantless spying, the other law-breaking, the cronyism, Katrina, the smearing of the 2004 Democratic Presidential candidate, the favoring of the wealthy over the poor.

Most of all, IT WAS BRINGING INTENSE SHAME UPON THE ENTIRE NATION.

But, hey, provided there are trials for the Bush Administration lawbreakers, I am prepared to move on.

Illegal war? Stolen electio... (Below threshold)

Illegal war? Stolen election? Torture? Warrantless spying? You hate a man that does not exist. He's a phantom created by the media to get you stirred up and frothing. And it worked flawlessly. Herman, you are a sad little man and I feel sorry for you.

Kim,If you are so ... (Below threshold)
Smiles:

Kim,

If you are so opposed to the politics of hate than why do you write for Wizbang? Wizbang authors and readers are filled with hate towards democrats. The only real difference between you and the haters you criticize is your party affiliation? Something to think about and hopefully grow from.

Herman, a quick question. H... (Below threshold)
Marc:

Herman, a quick question. How does Bush's quote ("truly not that concerned") compare with B. Husein Obama's of just a few days ago?

To paraphrase he said Osama bin Laden wasn't of any great concern as long as Al Queda "was on the run."

smiles - "The only real... (Below threshold)
Marc:

smiles - "The only real difference between you and the haters you criticize is your party affiliation? Something to think about and hopefully grow from."

So, it's your contention the entire republican party is "haters?"

Sorry, but you'll have to provide some proof of that.

In the RNC doctrine perhaps?

Your delusional mind perhaps?

IT WAS NOT THE ENT... (Below threshold)
IT WAS NOT THE ENTIRE 8 YEARS -- that "portion"actually was actually extremely small immediately after September 11th, 2001. I, of course, was a part of that "portion" (upset with the stolen election...

See, this is where you're lying. Your mindless, demented hate didn't start after 9/11, it started when your butt boy Al Gore got the Florida Supreme Court to sign off on his ludicrous election claims, thus forcing the US Supreme Court to spank them like the spoiled childen they were behaving as.

And so it's been an 8-year temper tantrum for you guys. Which, incidentally, shows no sign of letting up.

"Wizbang authors and rea... (Below threshold)

"Wizbang authors and readers are filled with hate towards democrats."

Disagreement isn't hate. I'm not surprised you don't know the difference. According to liberals, when liberals disagree it's "patriotic". When conservatives disagree it's "hate".

Nauseating.

P.S. herman - "the smea... (Below threshold)
Marc:

P.S. herman - "the smearing of the 2004 Democratic Presidential candidate"

As opposed to the "kid gloves" treatment Palin received of course.

You wouldn't want to revisit some of your past comments concerning Palin would you?

I'm really amazed with the ... (Below threshold)
Neo:

I'm really amazed with the Lott "We are all Bush-haters now" piece.

Given that this guy also writes for the American Spectator, a known den of right-wing bomb throwers, it's really interesting to see a real Janus in action.

I wonder if he is related to "Excitable Andy" ... perhaps a clone.

So, it's your cont... (Below threshold)
smiles:
So, it's your contention the entire republican party is "haters?"

Sorry, but you'll have to provide some proof of that.

In the RNC doctrine perhaps?

Your delusional mind perhaps?

No its not my contention that the entire republican party is "haters". The majority of republicans are not haters. I have never actually meet a republican that was a "hater" and I have a lot of republican friends. However, anybody reading the posts here should be able to see the hatred toward the left that oozes out of nearly every word posted on this site. If you do not see that than perhaps you have just become numb to it.

I don't think you need worr... (Below threshold)
Magic Dog:

I don't think you need worry that Bush will be prosecuted for his war crimes. Obama doesn't seem to want to do that. We'll just have to be content with Bush leaving office as the most thoroughly discredited president since Herbert Hoover.

Is that "hatred?" Nah. You can only hate someone who mattersn, and as of Noon on Jan. 20th, George W. ceased to matter. What will be a kick, though, is watching the right wing go crazy for the next eight years.

Disagreement isn't... (Below threshold)
Smiles:
Disagreement isn't hate. I'm not surprised you don't know the difference. According to liberals, when liberals disagree it's "patriotic". When conservatives disagree it's "hate".

Nauseating.

Disagreement is not hate. People can disagree in a respectful manor. However, there is very little actual analysis and discussion of real issues here. It's all about taking something trivial about democrats and spinning it into a condensation of democrats.

Challenge:

Count how many negative hateful words you see posted in one day on this site and tell me this site is not full of haters.

I don't think you ... (Below threshold)
Smiles:
I don't think you need worry that Bush will be prosecuted for his war crimes. Obama doesn't seem to want to do that. We'll just have to be content with Bush leaving office as the most thoroughly discredited president since Herbert Hoover.

Bush is definitely going to be prosecuted for war crimes. It's just a matter of who is going to be doing the prosecuting. Several Europeans countries have already indicated they are going to do so. In order for the U.S. to maintain its credibility and under the threat of international charges, its very possible we will have hearing in the U.S. on whether or not war crimes were committed.

After WW2 the United States particpated in the International Military Tribunal for the Far East. Leading members of Japan's military and government elite were charged with torture for using waterboarding. Legal precidense indicates Bush would be convicted.

"Count how many negative... (Below threshold)

"Count how many negative hateful words you see posted in one day on this site and tell me this site is not full of haters."

Well, Kim has pointed out a lot of hateful words in her original post. Would you like to start there? Sounds like a great challenge for you. Report back to us when you can.

I absolutely hate George Bu... (Below threshold)
gracecurl Author Profile Page:

I absolutely hate George Bush. I dearly love my country, America, I hate the destruction Bush has brought upon it.

I could make a list of 100 ways Bush has diminished this land but it would do no good here. The fear and anti-intellectualism I see here on this blog is the same despicable cancer that forced my parents to flee Europe in 1937.

I don't know why I would waste my time trying to explain here. Ears are deaf here silenced in the echo chamber of propaganda and hate.
depp=true
notiz=Here's a taste of dictatorship for you. Buh bye!

Add the wild-eyed frothings... (Below threshold)

Add the wild-eyed frothings from #36 to your list, Kim.

"What will be a kick, th... (Below threshold)

"What will be a kick, though, is watching the right wing go crazy for the next eight years."

Trust me. It'll be absolute sanity compared to the last 8 years.

Looks like Kim has really s... (Below threshold)

Looks like Kim has really struck a nerve with this post. Time to get the popcorn! :-)

The fear and anti-... (Below threshold)
The fear and anti-intellectualism I see here on this blog is the same despicable cancer that forced my parents to flee Europe in 1937.

Funny you should bring this up. I've heard immigrants from the old Soviet Union/East bloc say that the "share the wealth for the common good" rhetoric from Obama and the Democrats is exactly the same as they heard for years and years when they lived under communism, and came here to get away from, and they are greatly distressed that it's coming back again, reminding them of horrible memories of their previous lives they thought they had left behind.

What do you think of that, gracecurl?

OregonMuse:Yuri Be... (Below threshold)

OregonMuse:

Yuri Bezmenov would say that the useful idiots won't believe you. They won't ever believe you...right up until the moment that the oppressive boot hits them in their rear end. The brainwashing they've allowed themselves to undergo is too thorough.

It's good of you to give the old college try, however. ;-)

"Here's a taste of dicta... (Below threshold)

"Here's a taste of dictatorship for you. Buh bye!"

ROTFL!

smiles - "Bush is defin... (Below threshold)
Marc:

smiles - "Bush is definitely going to be prosecuted for war crimes."

And you know this how? Oh wait... "Several Europeans countries have already indicated they are going to do so."

Must be referring to the loonbats in Germany who tried that trick for Rumsfeld. Sorry, Angela Merkel put the kabosch on that nonsense.

And you think thjis is precedence? "Leading members of Japan's military and government elite were charged with torture for using waterboarding. Legal precedence indicates Bush would be convicted."

Better read more on those cases, they all, I repeat, ALL concerned waterboarding or a similar tactic that did provide for water to actually enter the subject's airway because the face was covered by CLOTH.

That which has been used so sparingly by the CIA have used plastic and in NO WAY allowed water to enter the subject's airway.

Now, run along back to like-minded loony's like Code Pick. But don't tell them you failed in your mission to convince us of your, and their, delusions, you might get cast out of the club.

Watch the video of Bushs Se... (Below threshold)
dr lava:

Watch the video of Bushs September 15 2005 speech at Jackson Square in New Orleans then compare that with the reality of New Orleans today.

Bush is a despicable liar.

The difference between those that live in the reality based world and hate what George Bush has done to the country and the typical Wizbang "conservative" is that we love America, "conservatives" submit to the government.

Isn't it odd that billions of people all over the world share MY sentiment: I love America. I hate what George Bush has done to my America.

I used no obscenities in my... (Below threshold)
gracecurl Author Profile Page:

I used no obscenities in my comment. When you chose to delete my words you make my point perfectly. I am a first generation American. My parents came from a place that was destroyed by blind loyalty. You are afraid of my words because they are the truth. Thank God Bush is gone now we must repair. Will you help or stand in the way?

"My parents came from a ... (Below threshold)

"My parents came from a place that was destroyed by blind loyalty."

Yes, your parents, from somewhere else. There isn't blind loyalty here; it's well documented all over this blog where conservatives have had disagreements with President Bush and several of his policies. Particularly allowing liberals to dictate education policy, amnesty and bailoutpalooza to name a few examples.

"Thank God Bush is gone now we must repair."

A lot of people disagree with that premise.

"Will you help or stand in the way?"

Where were you the last 8 years? Oh yeah. In the way because of what you believe, and we heard loudly and clearly that dissension was patriotic. Don't forget that, because when we disagree with Obama, we'll most certainly be in the way. Deal with it, just like we've been told to.

"The difference between ... (Below threshold)

"The difference between those that live in the reality based world and hate what George Bush has done to the country and the typical Wizbang "conservative" is that we love America, "conservatives" submit to the government."

What is it like to live in Opposite World? Seriously.

I intend to give Obama the ... (Below threshold)
rileyb:

I intend to give Obama the same respect the left has given Pres GW Bush!

It amazes me how the relati... (Below threshold)
Gavin:

It amazes me how the relative anonymity of this medium turns, what I HOPE to be relatively stable individuals into raging, frothy-mouthed lunatics, spouting out hate and gross generalizations, blatantly spitting on any possible semblance of critical thinking.

Honestly, Though I had an idea of what I was getting into when I started to read these hate-filled comments, it never ceases to amaze me how some individuals can choose the lowest possible road to walk at every turn.

I don't agree with everything this president will do, or everything ANY president has done in the past.

But regardless of my political opinions, which are as deeply held and passionate as anyone here, all I have to say is thank you for your service to our country President Bush and Godspeed President Obama. May you find the proper balance between decisiveness and prudence to help us whether the storms we face now and in the future.

And may you have the wisdom never to read this, or anything else spouted off in the pixilated pangea of perniciousness known as...the internet.

Gah, of course I meant weat... (Below threshold)
Gavin:

Gah, of course I meant weather, not "whether". Homophones. And no, far right, that doesn't mean you have to worry about gay telephones. So don't get all riled up :)
depp=true
notiz=Next time bring your own toilet paper.

I have a feeling that Lefty... (Below threshold)
rileyb:

I have a feeling that Lefty Obama got a rude awakening when he rec'd
his first security (and subsequent) briefings. He of the no confrontation
politics may have suddenly realized that that tactic would not work with
the jihadists. Go in Peace, all of Os big kumbaya dreams. He will probably be more centrist, at least on that front, than he had planned on.
I pray that he will do his time in the WH with wisdom and common sense
and ignore the liberals that are trying to talk him into doing things their
way.
However, whatever happens will now be on the dems heads.

"However, whatever happens ... (Below threshold)
Gavin:

"However, whatever happens will now be on the dems heads."

See, this is the kind of partisanship that people fall into to glorify themselves and completely demean anyone different.

I don't THINK you truly believe that ANYthing (bad OR good) that happens in the next 4-8 years is solely because of the democrats.

If you do believe that, then you have to accept that every single thing that has happened in the last 8 years is a direct reflection of the Republican party.

While there are obviously some who rabidly espouse this as fact, I believe most reasonable people (on both sides of the political spectrum)understand that things are a BIT more complicated than that.

Love or hate Bush, Clinton, or any other president, they are responsible, primarily for setting a tone and displaying strong, reasoned, disciplined leadership.

Where each of them fail (and they all do to some extent, as will our current president) it is generally in these areas, but when they succeed (and they all do to some extent), it is also generally in these broad areas.

Neither your disdain or my approval will change the fact that leadership is the fundamental quality that a president must display. When they lose the ability to lead effectively, both here and around the world, they have very little positive influence.

Though I believe his heart was in the right place, I also believe that GWB's biggest failings stemmed from his inability to effectively lead in critical junctures. Though he seemed to start from a position of strength
following 9/11, that strength quickly atrophied after the initial missteps in a war of choice that has since gone through multiple retroactive revisions that have not passed the "sniff test" for most Americans

In conjunction with the bungled mess of Katrina (again, not all his fault, but there was a failure of strong leadership evident), the continued shifting goals and reasons for our efforts in Iraq, the collapse of the housing markets and then the financial markets due to lack of any real oversight (again, not solely his fault), all of this eroded public confidence in the president and sapped his ability to lead anyone but his most ardent supporters (approximately 20% of the population).

While all presidents get too much credit AND too much blame, we have had a virtual lame duck president for several years now.

I hope and pray that our current president, whatever his personal and political failings (something ALL humans have), can take the political capital he now possesses, and transform it into truly meaningful and prudent leadership, and that he is able to maintain that presence throughout the controversies and catastrophes he will no doubt face in his time in office.

Because whether you love or hate the president as a man, the office demands a strong and wise leader.


Wow, the security on this s... (Below threshold)
Gavin:

Wow, the security on this site is terrible. Comment #50 was hacked by another user, apparently by someone with an aversion to vowels.

What it originally said was... (Below threshold)
Gavin:

What it originally said was:

"Gah, of course I meant weather, not "whether". Homophones. Don't worry, far right, taht doesn't mean you have to worry about gay telephones. So don't get all riled up :)"

No...I don't believe that E... (Below threshold)
rileyb:

No...I don't believe that Everything that happens will be the dems fault
anymore than I believed that everything was Pres Bushs' fault, but, what
I said, was not what you read.
What I said is that it will all be on their heads. In other words, people will not look to see what the time table was or the underlying causes were. All they will look at is, who was in power at the time. That is what
todays public looks at and how they think.
Don't you have a job, Gavin?

...raging, frothy-... (Below threshold)
...raging, frothy-mouthed lunatics, spouting out hate and gross generalizations, blatantly spitting on any possible semblance of critical thinking.

But enough about Larry Dickman, dr lava, SDW, and Smiles...

I certainly do have a job R... (Below threshold)
Gavin:

I certainly do have a job Riley. Anything that I have said here today has taken me perhaps ten minutes in total to compose. So, it was either have a cup of coffee, or do this. Normally I choose the coffee. Thanks for asking though :)

As for the public blaming those in power for all the ills of society. That is true to an extent, but as I said, as long as a president has the ability to lead, there is the potential for that president to make some headway in his (or her) vision.

The main problem I believe Bush had as a president was that he lost the ability to be an effective leader for the majority of people in the country early on.

When that happened, his fate as an executive was sealed. He took all the blame (some of it justified, some of it not), but could do nothing BUT take it due to an inability to motivate anyone around him.

It's an imperfect metaphor, but I liken it to the coach of a sports team. The greatest coaches in the world are those that motivate their players to be as good as they can possibly be. If they can't do that, it doesn't matter how good their ideas are, they cannot execute them.

My fear for President Obama is that he may very well be a great coach, but even great coaches can have losing seasons if they have a bad team and a bad situation.

Hopefully, he can motivate enough people to take action in a purpose-driven direction, that we see measurable changes. If we do not, then yes, he will eventually be held accountable for it, whether or not he could have affected real change or not.

At this point, I am willing to believe that he can.

Time will tell.

Damnit, there goes another cup of coffee.

"Wow, the security on th... (Below threshold)

"Wow, the security on this site is terrible. Comment #50 was hacked by another user, apparently by someone with an aversion to vowels."

You're being facetious, right? No, it was intentionally disemvoweled by Maggie, Comment Editor at Wizbang.

"Simply put, there are thos... (Below threshold)
Mike:

"Simply put, there are those who will never forgive Mr. Bush for not losing a war they had all declared unwinnable." WOW - WHAT A GENIUS THIS WRITER IS. People hate Bush because he "won" Iraq?!! You have to sh...me.

First of all, if we won the damn war, WHY ARE WE STILL THERE?

Secondly, if his idea of winning is spending 1 trillion and 4,000 American lives to establish an Iranian dominated theocracy, I would hate to see how he defines defeat.

I voted for Bush and he was good until Iraq. With Iraq he lost his freaking mind.

No no Mike. See, he didn't ... (Below threshold)
William:

No no Mike. See, he didn't say he "won," he said..."didn't lose" lol. See the distinction there? See, like Vietnam, we "didn't lose." It's all in how you pitch it. Kinda like going after weapons of mass destruction. "The boogie man's gonna getcha! So we better get him first!"

History will forever see the mistakes and lies we used as a basis for invading Iraq as one of the greatest blunders in American foreign policy history, right up there with orchestrating the coup that replaced Mosadeq in Iran with the Shah, directly leading to the "Islamic Revolution".

It's really a shame too, because if President Bush had kept his eye on the ball and truly been serious about protecting America rather than getting revenge on a hated enemy (a truly nasty hated enemy to be sure), we would have been able to prosecute the war in Afghanistan correctly and had the resources to never allow Osama Bin Laden to have left Tora Bora alive.

I mean, what we did in invading Iraq made no sense to anyone but the truly ignorant. It'd like...we got punched in the face by a guy who ran away and hid, but because catching him would be hard, we went over to a guy's house we don't like, rang the doorbell, and punched him in the face to feel better about ourselves.

Unfortunately, in doing that, Bush basically spit on the sacrifices of so many by sacrificing thousands more of our best and brightest to perpetuate his misguided personal vendetta. I will give him credit though, he masterfully duped the simple-minded (many of them trolling around here) into calling redefining that idiocy as patriotism.




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