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More Free Elections in Iraq

If you want a sign of just how successful we have been in Iraq, note the little attention this story is getting. (Hat tip Anchoress).

Iraqis are electing new provincial councils in the first nationwide vote in four years, with the Sunni minority expected to turn out in strength.

Sunnis largely boycotted the last ballot. Correspondents in Baghdad, where there has been a total ban on vehicles, said voting started slowly.

The vote is seen as a test of Iraq's stability ahead of the next general election later this year.

Security is tight and thousands of observers are monitoring the polls.

Up to 15 million Iraqis are eligible to cast votes.

"This is a great chance for us, a great day, to be able to vote freely without any pressure or interference," a Baghdad voter identified as Hamid told Reuters news agency.

Another voter said he had not slept in order to be first at the polling station.

When I read those comments from the Iraqi voter I couldn't help but think about these reports from previous elections in Iraq in which Saddam Hussein won with 100 percent of the vote. Many Democrats would die before admitting it, but Iraq is a better place today than it was under the evil regime of Saddam Hussein and his sadistic rapist sons. There is still a long way to go until the country is stable and safe, but it is free and conditions there continue to improve. I sincerely hope the new administration does everything necessary to see progress there continue. Sadly I am not optimistic in light of recent news.


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Obama will sign the $819 bi... (Below threshold)
Bob:

Obama will sign the $819 billion pork-ulus non-stimulating Democrat spending bill but has now told the Pentagon to cut $55 billion from the defense budget. It's clear that the new President's only priority is to grow government. He has no interest in fighting the War on Terror (a term now banned from his administration) or in keeping our defenses strong. Despite campaign rhetoric, I remain skeptical that he will really beef-up our war effort in Afghanistan, and he has no interest in doing anything in Iraq except pulling our troops a/s/a/p. The Iraqis should know they are going to be on their own soon. With pressure from their bad neighbors like Iran and Syria, I hope they are strong enough to make it.

I guess you have t... (Below threshold)
gracecurl Author Profile Page:

I guess you have to write these "good news" in Iraq pieces to try to justify the horrible guilt you must feel for the deaths of 4236 service men and women and the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis.

You can try to spin this any way you want but the bottom line is that there were NO WMD and the intelligence submitted to the American people counter to that was manipulated and promoted to achieve the goals spelled out in the PNAC manifesto from 1997.

What you guys seem to call patriotism in supporting Bush in this global catastrophe I call childlike naivete.

gracecurl,Any loss o... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

gracecurl,
Any loss of life for a worthless endeavor is tragic and you - and many others - feel the Iraq war was such a worthless endeavor. Many others probably disagree with you. I am digressing now but I think it is relevant based on your comment. Since you obviously care about human life where do you stand on abortion? Let me narrow that even more. Particularly partial birth abortion and Obama's apparent position that babies surviving a "botched" abortion can be denied life saving care and be allowed to die? Both situations where our medical technology almost assures survival. Just trying to get a handle on what type of life you think has value and what type of life is OK to "sacrifice" in your mind - volunteer serviceman vs. dependent child sort of thing.

"You can try to spin thi... (Below threshold)

"You can try to spin this any way you want but the bottom line is that there were NO WMD and the intelligence submitted to the American people counter to that ..."

By saying this you claim the Clinton Administration, and the intelligence agencies around the world, manipulated intelligence to prop up the idea Hussein had WMDs.

This is just another conspiracy theory that has no legs.

We are proud of our service... (Below threshold)
Mina:

We are proud of our servicemen and women who went into Iraq on the order of President Bush, who acted on the intelligence available to him and to President Clinton since 1998, when the official policy of the United States in Iraq became REGIME CHANGE under President Clinton. Since every one of our allied nations, and every member of former President Clinton's cabinet, said that Saddam had WMD, and every member of our intel committee and nearly every prominent Democrat voted in bi-partisan action to advance that policy of regime change - and since it would have been remiss of a president NOT to go in into Iraq following 9/11, I believe Ms. Byrd has nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about. Indeed, President Bush talked about liberation for the Iraqi people every time he talked about Iraq, not just the WMD. America has nothing to be ashamed of, and neither does the former president, whose actions (and our military's) have saved lives and given people, especially women, the change to be educated, free and optimistic. I'm proud of President Bush and Proud of our military.

So, choke on that, and your miserable bitterness, gracecurl. You can wallow in it all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that Bush freed people, and Bush - until the whole GLOBAL ECONOMY melted down, kept us working, and HE kept us safe.

Let's see what this "hype-o-crite" in the Oval Office does, once he's through appointing lobbyists and tax-cheats to his Administration, apologizing some more to the Arabs for their hating us since 1976 and keeping the White House furnace turned up while telling the rest of us to put on sweaters. Let's see what he actually accomplishes, once his "stimulus" package brings us 17% unemployment.

Tom, <a href="http://sigcar... (Below threshold)
Mina:

Tom, we went to war because Clinton TOLD THE TRUTH.

And gracecurl and her ilk must be very stupid to think that a president would go someplace KNOWING there were no WMD, and not have at least "planted" some to buck up his case.

An evil genius like Bush would have done that, right? Rove would have done that.

Oh, but wait, I forgot, they went to Iraq to get all that OOOOIIIIIILLLLL!

I am so very proud of our m... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

I am so very proud of our military. The liberal troll proves my point of liberals hating the military and only bring them up to make vile political points. If there is nothing worth dying for in your life, well then, you don't really have one. ww

Funny how the BBC article m... (Below threshold)
Son of a Pig and a Monkey:

Funny how the BBC article made no mention of Boooosh. I guess his name only comes up in their quagmire articles

High Sunni turnout and fair... (Below threshold)

High Sunni turnout and fair participation within the Iraqi parliament will be an important key towards adding legitimacy to this election. Sadly though, the small Iraqi Christian community has been largely disenfranchised from Iraqi politics by the Shiite Muslim majority in the parliament who passed legislation to limit the representation of Christians in the government.

By saying this you... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
By saying this you claim the Clinton Administration, and the intelligence agencies around the world, manipulated intelligence to prop up the idea Hussein had WMDs.

This is just another conspiracy theory that has no legs.

It's not a just a theory any more, Tom. If you think that is all it is, disprove it without the metaphor. All of those half-truths and theories lead only to one conspiracy, which you describe perfectly in the above quote. Such a brilliant deduction for a "a theory with no legs". Prove it didn't happen.

If good things are happenin... (Below threshold)

If good things are happening in Iraq, they are totally negated by the fact that this is politically inconvenient for democrats.
http://www.rightklik.net/

"Prove it didn't happen.... (Below threshold)

"Prove it didn't happen."

Oh, you conspiracy theorists are all the same. The problem is, if you're going to concoct all these wild theories, the onus is on you to prove their validity, not the other way around.

Then again, for all conspiracy theory kooks, reality is 180 degrees out of phase.

You need to prove all the intelligence agencies of the world conspired together against Sadaam, LaMedusa. Until then, I'll continue to believe the most logical; which is Sadaam transported the WMDs to another country and destroyed the rest.

The fact is, this wasn't the biggest reason the US went into Iraq anyway. There were other multiple reasons for doing so, which have been documented at length here and elsewhere.

Of course, facts and reality are no match for a giant, juicy conspiracy theory for some, though.

Watch out for those chem trails in the sky! Bad mojo!!

Of course, facts a... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
Of course, facts and reality are no match for a giant, juicy conspiracy theory for some, though.

One way to indoctrinate people is through repetition. Tom, you used the label "conspiracy theory" three times in one post, to perhaps, get a point across, or to repeat what "everyone knows" just because they are told?

Obviously, you are either convinced of "the facts" or you want others to be for a specific reason. Educate me, please. What were the biggest reasons for going to Iraq if not for the threat of Saddam and his WMDs, which is what the American people were led to believe? An actual conspiracy theory has no real proven facts to move it to the credible category, so what are you thinking of that cannot withstand against your vague, bigger facts?

I don't see assuming what "everyone" (media, word of mouth, etc.) has said to be the logical choice, without identifying the facts you state.

Are you sure the Saddam execution is the most important? How about the big enchilada that kicked off the war on terror? BBC says Building 7 collapsed, while it's STILL standing..!!
Or how about the discussion putting Bill Clinton in the White House as president eight years before it even happened? And what is Larry King talking about when he tells Clinton that "Ted Turner is a big fan, and would serve you"? Are all of these people lying?
CIA Brainwashing Techniques
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAgi4Z5ImRU

Here is the BBC link that s... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Here is the BBC link that somehow got missed in the above post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAgi4Z5ImRU

Jeez, here is the link to t... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Jeez, here is the link to the CIA mind control:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z91bg9BghaE

LaMedusa - going off the De... (Below threshold)
Marc:

LaMedusa - going off the Deep End hardly covers it. Please, take a moment, contact Kevin and get yourself a place over at Wizbang Blue. You will be more than welcome into that little click of nutzoids and haters.

BACK on topic, and noting a couple refs to Barack Hussein Obama's planned 10% cut in defense spending.

To be fair, not that I want to but..., the Defense Business Board, an internal management oversight body to the Pentagon, recommended a 25% cut in defense spending just after the election.

LaMedusa - going o... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
LaMedusa - going off the Deep End hardly covers it. Please, take a moment, contact Kevin and get yourself a place over at Wizbang Blue. You will be more than welcome into that little click of nutzoids and haters.

marc, the only person I apologize to is Lori for going off topic, but Tom went ahead and continued that line of thinking answering someone else. He chose to run off yelling "conspiracy theories!" without a valid debate. Deep End? Which part? You must assume that all of the other opinions, links, sources I just posted are fabricated. Do are using the same "argument" as Tom, who was nice enough to throw in, all by himself, to "watch out for chem trails". It would be very interesting to see how many people get curious about that enough to look into it, not that they will comment here because they are now too busy looking out for their families and there own welfare.

I have just one more "conspiracy theory" that is taking place in America right now. If you don't believe this is the fate of this whole country that has been calculated for decades, don't say you weren't told. I would encourage people to watch the whole video, because this young man put a lot of effort into collecting information. this is the reality that is happening now as a result of the failing economy, all orchestrated by the Feds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPlxyJc7pFc

What is the fate of these people? Charity, tract housing, or in the title of the video, FEMA camps? BTW, A new bill was authorized on January 27th: Bill - H.R. 645 New Legislation Authorizes FEMA Camps In U.S.
If you don't know what that means, read the bill, it's in this link. Concentration camps not in our country or our lifetime? Don't bet on it:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12073

*You are using...... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

*You are using...

LaMedusa - Yeah the link pr... (Below threshold)
Marc:

LaMedusa - Yeah the link provides the text of the bill. The text is also preceded by this breathless horseshit perpetraited by the nutzoids that author that site:

"Many credible forecasters have predicted riots and rebellions in America that will dwarf those already witnessed in countries like Iceland and Greece."

Care to point out who those "credible forecasters" are?

It's also interesting to note a search of your phrase, "Bill - H.R. 645 New Legislation Authorizes FEMA Camps In U.S" nutzoid lunatics like poisonplanet, truther alex jones and many other whackos lead the search list.

I reiterate, contact Kevin, he'd be more than happy to give your own "special place" at Blue to rant and rave to your little hearts content.

Sorry, I almost forgot. Wh... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Sorry, I almost forgot. Where the bill mentions "The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regionsit ", this is what it looks like on a map:

http://gacc.nifc.gov/eacc/logistics/all_risk/Homeland_Security_Regions_Map.png

"President Nixon, on March 27, 1969, through the Government Reorganization Act divided the United States into 10 Regions. To further implement this Regional Governance over the U.S.A., President Nixon signed Executive Order 11647 and entered it in the Federal Register February 12, 1972. (Vol .37, No.30) Through the authority vested in him as President of the United States, President Nixon established a Federal Regional Council for each of the 10 standard regions. It stated that, the President shall designate one member of each Council as Chairman of the Council and such Chairman shall serve at the pleasure of the President. The fact that State borders have been destroyed to create 10 REGIONS instead of 50 Union States is something your government doesn't want you to know."

"I reiterate, contact Kevin... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

"I reiterate, contact Kevin, he'd be more than happy to give your own "special place" at Blue to rant and rave to your little hearts content."

You can reiterate all you want, marc. That's what Tom has been doing, and it won't work for him, either. This is the last link I am going to give you, marc (lucky you!)If you don't know who Gerald Celente is, you might want to find out: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2132164/posts

In the meantime, people will continue to do their own thinking, and will know what really needs to be done in our government. I doubt if Kevin wants me to blog at Blue if he thinks the same way as you.

Again, I want to apologize ... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

Again, I want to apologize to Lori, because this is her post. Take care.

"That's what Tom has bee... (Below threshold)

"That's what Tom has been doing, and it won't work for him, either."

Yeah, marc, stop being such a Conspiracy Denier. You know the chem trails thing is real, and so is "Bush Lied, People Died". Wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late!

Yeah...I went off topic by asking someone to prove the old, "Bush Lied, People Died" bit. *rolls eyes* Lorie posts about free elections in Iraq and BLPD is the first thing the wackos shout. Don't dare question a troofer.

"You can reiterate all ... (Below threshold)
Marc:

"You can reiterate all you want, marc. That's what Tom has been doing, and it won't work for him, either."

No worries, it won't happen any longer, you'll be ignored, by happy with your little nutzoids at poisenplant among other places.

"I doubt if Kevin wants me to blog at Blue if he thinks the same way as you."

Please, Blue is the home of lee ward (given to him by Kevin) the most disingenuous, lying, piece of dung in the blogosphere. You'll fit right in, and you won't have to worry about opposing points of view, they'll be deleted faster than Britney enlarges her breasts.

I've seen a lot of conspira... (Below threshold)

I've seen a lot of conspiracy theories on the Internet in my time, but never so many is such a small space.

Looks like someone missed their meds today.

"Don't dare question a troo... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

"Don't dare question a troofer."

Oh, good! Tom the "logical denier" is back! You don't have to worry, Tom. Unfortunately, many people will be suckered by your misspelling of truth and carry on without reviewing what Celente or anyone else has said about the future of this country. The ones that deny it the most are looking for some way to make money off of the deal before any one else notices, regardless of the fate of human lives. Thanks, again, for the "well wishes" and that plastic olive branch. You take care, now.

"...many people will be ... (Below threshold)

"...many people will be suckered by your misspelling of truth and carry on..."

Right. Because according to you, people can't critically think for themselves, eh LaMedusa? Well, as they used to (kind of) say on X-Files, "The Troof is Out There". (I love the X-Files and Fringe, but I recognize that they're fiction.)

"Thanks, again, for the "well wishes" and that plastic olive branch."

How clumsy of me. I didn't offer you an olive branch, plastic or otherwise. I sure didn't wish you ill will, however. I honestly hope you come back from out in left field some day.

"You take care, now."

You too.

I am struck by the irony of... (Below threshold)
George True:

I am struck by the irony of Obama congratulating the Iraqis on their recent election. Virtually trouble-free and no violence, nothing but purple thumbs everywhere. Yet, if Obama had had his way, we would have left the Iraqis to their fate. I seem to recall Obama saying that the surge could not possibly succeed, could only make things worse, and the only thing for us to do was withdraw our troops whthin 90 days. He was right up there with Harry "this war is lost" Reid advocating that we leave Al Qaida, Mookie Al Sadr, and the Iranians in control of Iraq. But now, that is all oh so conveniently forgotten by The One and his media lapdog syncophants. He can thank Bush that he (Obama)now has the luxury of withdrawing the troops on a definite timetable because the war has been...ahem...won, by Bush.

As for several of the comments from the individual referring to herself as gracecurl:First, while every US casualty is a tragedy, even 4236 US military deaths is an astonishingly low casualty count for an invasion and subsequent counter-insurgency lasting over five years. In fact, the number of military fatalities during the Iraq war have actually been lower than what it normally is from accidents during peacetime.

Finally, you must not have heard about the 500 metric tons of yellowcake uranium that was removed from Iraq just with the last six months. I'm not surprised you didn't hear about it, as none of the mainstream media reported it. Another non-reported fact is that small but significan quantities of polonium were also found in Iraq. Polonium has only one known use: as an initiator in an atomic bomb. But the 500 metric tons of yellowcake that we did find was probably not the greater part of Saddam's stash. The bulk of it probably ended up in the Becaa Valley in Syria. No doubt that was probably in the Syrian installation that the Israelis destroyed not that long ago.

So you see Gracie, there actually were WMD's in Iraq. And it is also now known from Saddam's own conversations with our debriefers that he fully intended to restart the program just as soon as he could get rid of those pesky WMD inspectors once and for all. I'm glad we had real adults calling the shots who had the maturity and the resolve to make the tough decisions and do what needed to be done. The man-child Obama doesn't have what it takes to make those kinds of difficult decisions and accept responsibility if it all doesn't go as planned. You can bash Bush till the cows come home, but it doesn't change the fact that he kept us safe. Obambi doesn't even begin to fill his shoes.

Very funny that Paul Hooson... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Very funny that Paul Hooson is concerned about the voice of the Christians in Iraq, but want them out of politics here in our great country. H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.I.C.A.L. ww

"Right. Because according t... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

"Right. Because according to you, people can't critically think for themselves, eh LaMedusa?"

No, not according to me, Tom. You know how messed up the educational system is in this country. If you did any research at all, you would see the handful of people controlling the media right now, with the same psychological imagery in television prime-time and advertisements. The ones that can think for themselves will ignore your repetitious "Conspiracy Theory logic", will be very few, but quite fortunate.

My apologies if you really meant well, but my instincts are usually pretty sharp. Especially if you and max agree that you have a "lot in common". I wonder just exactly what that is, other than using the smug "crazy" rebuttal when confronted with your own spontaneous toss-ins to the "conspiracy" bundle, that just happen to also be dead-on accurate.

Wildwillie, I subscribe to ... (Below threshold)

Wildwillie, I subscribe to a religious freedom publication and fully support the right of all persons to worship freely. I'm also opposed to those few who want to use government to censor or suppress views, controversial opinions, or culture that they disagree with, because this is a form of oppression as well. I support freedom of religion, of the press, etc, for every society in the world.

Those in the American Christian community who seek to jail filmmakers, authors, artists or record companies are acting like the Taliban, which I find totally unacceptable in a nation with a Bill Of Rights. Controversial artists are making a religious or moral opinion or philosophy known by the works, and this warrants free speech and religious protections.

"The ones that can think... (Below threshold)

"The ones that can think for themselves will ignore your repetitious "Conspiracy Theory logic", will be very few, but quite fortunate."

Actually, the ones who can think for themselves have already ignored your repetitious Conspiracy Theory rantings...or continue to call you on it.

"My apologies if you really meant well, but my instincts are usually pretty sharp. Especially if you and max agree that you have a "lot in common". I wonder just exactly what that is, other than using the smug "crazy" rebuttal when confronted with your own spontaneous toss-ins to the "conspiracy" bundle, that just happen to also be dead-on accurate."

Good grief, LaMedusa, max and I like comedy. I was surprised, and what I really said is that we have a lot more in common than we thought. I'm definitely not surprised you blew that out of proportion, too. So yeah, calling you crazy for swallowing every troofer story that comes down the pike is dead on accurate.

Once again, I don't wish you ill will, because even the insane need to be cared for and given the best environment for recovery.

Watch out for the black helicopters!

Once again, I don'... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
Once again, I don't wish you ill will, because even the insane need to be cared for and given the best environment for recovery.

Watch out for the black helicopters!

Black Helicopters? What Black Helicopters?

And of course there is no indoctrination of the New World Order in our schools, either. Fortunately, there are brighter kids out there than you wish there were.

And with the economy doing so well with so many collecting the "dwindling" UI benefits and welfare, while celebrating over their feast of macaroni and cheese, good cop Obama's got a solution: He wants us to "earn our keep" for just being here. Why don't we just all go "insane" before the change does it for us?




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