This 'stimulus' crap sandwich is just like the Clinton myth of hiring and putting 100,000 cops on the street. It never happened. Sounds good, but didn't happen. Seems federal financing, like Obama's promises, have an expiration date.

This isn't much of a "stand". More like a "grandstand".

In fact, governors who reject some of the stimulus aid may find themselves overridden by their own legislatures because of language Clyburn included in the bill that allows lawmakers to accept the federal money even if their governors object.

He inserted the provision based on the early and vocal opposition to the stimulus plan by South Carolina's Republican governor, Mark Sanford. But it also means governors like Sanford and Louisiana's Bobby Jindal -- a GOP up-and-comer often mentioned as a potential 2012 presidential candidate -- can burnish their conservative credentials, knowing all the while that their legislatures can accept the money anyway.

"...language Clyburn included in the bill that allows lawmakers to accept the federal money even if their governors object..."

Sounds like something that could end up in court.

Well good for Jindal, he stands behind his ethics, the people be damned. Sure hope the people of Louisiana can survive on ethics. Does that mean the extra $90 million dollars can be used elsewhere, like in other suffering states? Give Jindal a few more days and watch him reconsider. Message to his constituents: "To hell with the unemployed. You weren't going to vote for me anyway!"

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal supports recovery by refusing aide? Why, you're doin' a heck of a job there, Bobby! Bobby don't need no cash - he's gonna exorcise the demons, then Louisiana will become the wealthiest state in the union. This must be what Michael Steele meant by "going beyond cutting edge" when it comes to new GOP ideas. Beyond cutting edge is technically over-the-cliff.

You know, as much as I realize that this was stunt Jindal pulled, it is a bit refreshing. Of course, it's all at expense of his constituents in LA. For once, a GOOPer who isn't putting our money where his mouth is. Challenge extended, other GOOPers. Anyone willing to accept?

"...Sure hope the people of Louisiana can survive on ethics..."
The idea is that they wouldn't have been able to survive on the happy growing tax burden they would inherit from this monstrosity.Tomorrow matters too. If liberals had integrity, they would impose the same argument to the economy that the apply to energy. So we need to save the earth for them and saddle them with a broken, defunct, crippling tax burden? I hope they can live off the oil off the continental shelf that they won't be able to get to.

Once again, that's the difference between the right and the left... holding to principles even when not politically expedient. You can't solve a problem at the same level at which you created it. You can't spend your way out of a problem you spent your way into. Jindal traded a momentary band-aid for long term hope. He'll be looking sweet 5 to 10 years from now, when those at the government teat are still eating this crap-wich.

I was a big fan of Sanford too, but he apparently isn't going to stand firm with his heavy rhetoric. I was disappointed, and thought he might be a dark horse in 2012. We'll see.

Sounds like something that could end up in court.

And your rationale for thinking that is...

Once again, that's the difference between the right and the left... holding to principles even when not politically expedient.

Thus showing that your long-term memory has an upper limit of about 30 days.

You can't solve a problem at the same level at which you created it. You can't spend your way out of a problem you spent your way into.

You mean...

"The Democrats can't solve a problem at the same level at which the Republicans created it. The Democrats can't spend their way out of a problem the Republicans spent their way into."

Fixed it for ya.

brian - "You mean... "The Democrats can't solve a problem at the same level at which the Republicans created it. The Democrats can't spend their way out of a problem the Republicans spent their way into."

You mean... The Democrats and Repulicans can't solve a problem at the same level at which the Republicans AND democrats created it.

The Democrats AND republicans can't spend their way out of a problem the democrats AND Republicans spent their way into."

There, fixed it for YOU.

Of course I'd be perfectly willing and able to amend/correct the proceeding if and when you can show me any budget or bill that increased the fed budget passed into law with Republican votes only.

Yes, Marc, I concede that the Democrats were not obstructionists when Republicans were in control, and allowed them to run the government the way they wanted. That's consistent with my above comment.

I'd be perfectly willing and able to amend/correct the proceeding if and when you can show me any budget or bill that increased the fed budget passed into law with Republican votes only.

So by your logic, the fact that Specter, Snowe, Collins voted for the stimulus means that the Dems and Reps are equally responsible for it. Interesting to know that's how you view it.

brian - "Yes, Marc, I concede that the Democrats were not obstructionists when Republicans were in control, and allowed them to run the government the way they wanted. That's consistent with my above comment."

But you didn't concede the dems willfully signed on the dotted line for as much or more spending as the reps. Your only consistency is a well lnmopwn ability to ignore the obvious and bash any, and everything with an "R" behind it.

Brian - "So by your logic, the fact that Specter, Snowe, Collins voted for the stimulus means that the Dems and Reps are equally responsible for it. Interesting to know that's how you view it."

Now your view is becoming somewhat less clouded. Those three in one fashion or another will pay a price for the votes they cast.

Additionally, Barack Hussein Obama by signing the first TARP bill, AND adding to the fed budget far in excess of anything in the past will pay a price.

I expect that price will be Obama = Bush III when it comes to budgetary matters.

Good for Jindal. He made the right decision.

The whole economy implosion happened on the democratic leadership watch in congress. Seems to slip the minds of the liberal lefties here. Of course, any honest facts always do slip their minds. I for one, am telling all what the democrats have done to our economy. It needs to be said. ww

...The Democrats can't solve a problem at the same level at which the Republicans created it...

Here's the problem, we haven't had a fiscally conservative executive since 1/20/89. We haven't had a fiscally conservative legislature since roughly 2000. My hope for Jindal isn't that he's a Republican, my hope is that he's a conservative. Dubya wasn't nearly conservative enough. You can't cut taxes and jack spending through the roof. You can't cut like a conservative and spend like a liberal.

I don't understand why Dubya spending is a crime against the cosmos, but King Barry the Hopeful spending is the answer to all our prayers.

The whole economy implosion happened on the democratic leadership watch in congress.

Gosh, Willie. Then by your measure, the whole 9/11 thing happened on the George Bush/Republican Congress watch. I'm glad to hear that you now think Clinton and the Democrats had nothing to do with it.

Though I am interested in seeing you provide a single bill the Democrats passed under George Bush that you claim resulted in the "economy implosion".

Silence from WeeWillie in 10, 9, 8...

I don't understand why Dubya spending is a crime against the cosmos, but King Barry the Hopeful spending is the answer to all our prayers.

Well for one thing, Bush spent his almost-trillion in other countries, whereas Obama is spending his right here at home.

Also, many on the left don't think there's anything wrong with spending at all. It was just all of Bush's record-breaking spending accompanied by claims of fiscal conservatism (and "those spending libruls") that became too annoying to listen to.

"...can burnish their conservative credentials, knowing all the while that their legislatures can accept the money anyway."

Yeah, how DARE they voice opposition in the face of opposition? Why, standing up for and speaking out for what you think is right, regardless, means you're just plain grandstanding.

Since he may be forced to take it, he should just shut up, right?

Well, let's see what he does. Will he actively lobby the legislature to let his decision stand? Will he call out those who seek to overturn it? Will he fight this in court, as GarandFan thinks he can?

Or will he passively allow the legislature to override him, claiming "hey, I tried, I'm conservative!"

Brian, I believe congress has oversight of banking regualtion and other areas of our financial markets. Seems the dem's either fell asleep at the switch OR new what was coming but were letting their contributors go unimpeded. I pick the latter. ww

"Well, let's see what he does."

Until then let's go ahead and condemn him and declare our psychic powers in determining his secret thoughts. Got it.

I'm not so hyped up on Jindal as some are, but golly.