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Obama vs The Job

During this recession, a lot of us are thinking about job-hunting. Even though most of us still have jobs and may even like our employers, it is perfectly reasonable to think about the possibility that we might have to find new positions, which in turn creates worries about finding a job quickly, and of course the worry that the job we get will be a bad one. What a lot of people do not realize, is that companies also dread the hiring process, and for many of the same reasons. The nightmare scenario for many companies, is finding someone who interviews well but when hired proves to be a waste, or worse to be someone who damages the company through negligence or fraud. Barack Obama is proving to be that sort of "hire".

Granted, I have been arguing against the 'hiring' of Barack Obama, Chicago-style Lawyer, Activist and all-around Narcissist since he won the nomination of the Democratic Party (at war against America since 1970). So I have to admit that my opinion is colored by a certain tendency to see Barack Obama as a cancer rather than a savior. On the other hand, I made an effort last fall to give him a chance, when he was first elected President. Even though the present set of conditions is largely the result of the Democrat-controlled Congress of 2006-present, I felt that President-elect Obama deserved the chance to make his case and explain how his plans would work.

It's pretty apparent by now, that Obama's plans were limited to variations on a simple template:

1. Scare folks out of rational examination of an issue, sell it as the "worst since", then append some emotionally-charged historical condition, no matter whether the comparison is valid or not;
2. Propose massive spending that does not directly address the causes or effects of the crisis, but which would be difficult to sell in any nominal political conditions. In short, use scare tactics to advance ideology as a primary goal, overriding all other imperatives;
3. When challenged on any proposed agenda, accuse the critic of obstruction, and claim that the critic is somehow making the crisis worse by demanding due diligence;
4. When public opinion begins to turn against the use of scare tactics, switch to a pretense of optimism and success, claim that your political agenda was somehow responsible, and if it becomes obvious that the plan has failed, blame your political enemies;
5. When all else fails, distract the public through persecution of high-profile individuals, scapegoat conveniently caricatured enemies, or just hide from the issues by focusing on absurd quirks like publishing your 'Final Four' picks instead of addressing the failure of your Treasury Secretary to comprehend even the most fundamental elements of finance, or appear on a talk show hosted by a comedian, rather than explain how sending billions of tax dollars to your favorite special interest groups will increase consumer confidence or rebuild the housing market.

Remember Richard Nixon? You know, 'enemies list', blaming selected media individuals for his problems and pathetically trying to show he was somehow 'cool' by appearing on "Laugh-In"? You should, we're seeing the same thing now with Obama's recent behavior. The difference, of course, is not only that Nixon had a decent sense of how the economy worked and who America's friends and enemies were in the world, it's also that Tricky D managed to not drive off the cliff until six years into his presidency; President O managed to find the crash inside of six months of winning the Oval Office. Of course, there's a couple other diff's as well - Nixon's own party was willing to impeach and convict him for what he did during Watergate, while the Democrats are hardly going to consider their leader in any moral balance, especially given the example of their own leadership. And last, when Nixon left the White House we at least had a competent if uninspired President in Gerald Ford; absolutely no one with a three-digit IQ and a working conscience would consider handing the keys over to Joe Biden.

- continue -

Sounds extreme, I know, but look at the record so far. The 787-billion dollar "Stimulus" bill has twenty-three separate sections, addressing all kinds of federal projects on liberal wish lists, and yes some of them are reasonable, maybe even good for the country, but not a cent is spent to create any private-sector jobs except through unions, there is nothing to help working families who are facing foreclosure right now, or who have already lost their house, and there is nothing in the bill to restore the lost investments of people whose 401k's were almost literally decimated in the last year. In fact, despite Obama's shrill cries that it would be catastrophic to delay passing the bill (let alone dare to question or oppose it), most of the spending does not even take place until next year, a fact made all the more obvious by Obama's delay in signing it. Obama can no longer spin his credentials; they are as paper-thin as his experience.

Barack Obama never understood the job; he wanted it as the pinnacle of additions to his resume. In so doing, Obama proved the limit to his scale, like the man who wanted to be a great composer, never understanding that the truly great compose because they love music, or the man who wanted to be known as a great athlete, rather than strive because he loves the game. President Obama loves competition, politics, and glory, but frankly none of those qualities are pertinent to the office of the President of the United States. Obama made gains in the election by deriding the sitting president during his campaign, but too late Obama has come to see the virtue of a tough hide, and the need for a president to be something more substantial than a mere provocateur. Obama is a master of the political assassination, but he is a rank amateur at the greater skill of building informed consensus. Obama conjured the image of a larger-than-life superhero for himself, but he never acquired the judgment or developed the humility needed to confront the scale of national tides and crisis.

Obama's defenders complain that the president should not be criticized for his plans, because they take time to work. The problem is not the timing, however, but the character and application of the action. The Obama mandarins opine that the simple flood of spending alone will eventually produced the desired growth in the economy. Such thinking, of course, is deluded. One needs only to imagine the difference between a farmer who carefully prepares and plows his land, placing his seed in just the right places and amounts, and who irrigates his plot and watches to keep out birds and weeds, with the fool who just throws seed around with no organization; which farmer will legitimately produce a good harvest should be obvious to predict. Or compare a manager who carefully considers the employee skills he needs and how many people, who budgets his staff and considers the demographic and industry factors, before he carefully interviews, hires, then trains only the people who would be good additions and create growth for his company, to the idiot who hires without planning and according to his whim; which company will be out of business within a year is not hard to predict. In such cases there is no need to 'wait for results'; the results are obvious by the manner in which resources are allocated and applied. To expect that spending hundreds of billions of dollars on special interest political projects (pork to most Americans) will produce an economic boom if we just wait long enough, is along the same lines as arguing that if we had just given Bernie Madoff more time, he'd have made enough money to pay back all his investors - it's not only stupid, it's criminally dishonest.


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under the circumstances (in... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

under the circumstances (inheriting nothing but urgent and mismanaged problems from bu$h) i'd say he's doing quite well. obama at least had the wisdom and forsight to immediately order the closing of guantanamo, thereby removing an immense blight on our moral standing:

======================================

March 19, 2009
Ex-Bush admin official: Many at Gitmo are innocent

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090319/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_guantanamo_wrongly_held

Many detainees locked up at Guantanamo were innocent men swept up by U.S. forces unable to distinguish enemies from noncombatants, a former Bush administration official said Thursday. "There are still innocent people there," Lawrence B. Wilkerson, a Republican who was chief of staff to then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, told The Associated Press. "Some have been there six or seven years."

Well done, DJ.And ... (Below threshold)
JJ:

Well done, DJ.

And now we know what will happen to the detainees who are released in the US: they'll be living with peabody.

Thanks peabody, you reminde... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Thanks peabody, you reminded me of step 5-A:

Desperately try to change the subject!

ah JJ, theres that classic ... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

ah JJ, theres that classic neocon "fantasy-based mockery" reaction

its such an easy way to avoid reasoning, eh?

=]

dj i think youre projecting... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

dj i think youre projecting the rove M.O.

besides, no wizbanger is going to go anywhere near the abuses of guantanamo without a lil' help

=]

P3000 Watch your s... (Below threshold)
maggie:

P3000

Watch your step.

Well, Obama proves to me th... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Well, Obama proves to me that the independants do not know how to hire anyone. At least now they realize they may have been mistaken. ww

Well you gave Him the benef... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Well you gave Him the benefit of the doubt. I have to admit, I considered him an overblown worthless piece of hypocritical, political double-talking piece of shit since day one.

And I still feel that way.

PeabodyYou failed ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Peabody

You failed to mention that WIlkerson has been saying things against the Bush administration since about 911, and that he openly supported democrats over republicans.

Way to go in giving us truth and honesty about your sources.

Let's see... DJ expends con... (Below threshold)
Jay Tea:

Let's see... DJ expends considerable time and effort and thought on where things are today and where they're headed tomorrow (superb job, old colleague o'mine), and peabody is left shouting "but what about yesterday?"

By the way, peabody, what's the current status of Guantanamo? What's it likely to be for the next year or so?

Someone stuff Peabody in a Wayback machine and send him to the hinteryears, please.

J.

Aw, how quick you are to "c... (Below threshold)
Herman:

Aw, how quick you are to "criticize" Obama's economic plans, DJ. Well then:

What the heck is your right-wing solution to the nation's economic woes???

Is it either

a) The Reagan solution -- more tax cuts for primarily the wealthy, hoping for that "Trickle-Down" effect,

or

b) The Hoover solution -- do nothing, and hope for the best?

Obama's consulted the nation's top economists in coming up with his Keynesian proposals (Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman believing that Obama did not go nearly far enough); why don't you consult the Cato Institute, American Enterprise Institute or whatever you like and come up WITH YOUR OWN DAMN SOLUTION RATHER THAN MERELY CRITICIZE???

Well, maybe we should look ... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

Well, maybe we should look back at history, Herman, and take not that the Reagan solution WORKED ya dumb dip shit.

Fucking leftard idiot!!!!

Oh, and I agree 100% with GarandFan. I pegged him as an empty suit ill suited (heh) to the office of Prez long ago.

I hate it when I'm right.

"absolutely no one with a t... (Below threshold)
retired military:

"absolutely no one with a three-digit IQ and a working conscience would consider handing the keys over to Joe Biden.
"

Gee Obama or Biden, Obama or Biden. That is a tough choice.

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Herman

"Obama's consulted the nation's top economists in coming up with his Keynesian proposals (Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman believing that Obama did not go nearly far enough); "

You mean the same guy that has been screaming a recession is coming for 7 years. Gee if you scream it long enough you may actually be right.

Krugman is a democratic stooge. Him winning a Nobel Prize is on par with Al Gore winning one. Just be a lefty and you are eligible. Conservatives need not apply. Did you here Obama is up for Nobel Peace Prize? Umm what exactly has he done other than sell half our allies down the river and suck up to our enemies.

pea[brian]3000 - "immed... (Below threshold)
marc:

pea[brian]3000 - "immediately order the closing of guantanamo,"

It's closed! Where did they go peabrain? Did Murtha get his wish?

JTea - "Someone stuff Peabody in a Wayback machine and send him to the hinteryears, please."

Been a couple weeks since he/she/it has been around. I assumed he'd been stuffed into that machine already.

But alas, we still have the "pleasure" of his comedic stylings.

pea[brain]3000 "besides... (Below threshold)
marc:

pea[brain]3000 "besides, no wizbanger is going to go anywhere near the abuses of guantanamo without a lil' help

Well not being an author here I can't claim to be a "wizbanger," however having commented here for 5 years lets just say I'm an "honorary" member.

In that light, I'm asking how about a "lil' help" from you?

Let the debate begin.

marc as you know im always ... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

marc as you know im always happy to debate you

maggie on the other hand seems to be looking for a reason to ban me......?
depp=true
notiz= All bite and no bark P3000, remember that.

Sure peabrain3000, explain ... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

Sure peabrain3000, explain EXACTLY how closing Club Gitmo is going to have ANY effect on the global downturn and the US Economic Meltdown?

Pray tell, enlighten me, oh wise one.

Or, failing that, why it's taking Barry O so long to fill treasury, or even finish getting his cabinet in place (while still finding time for ESPN and Leno), or (possibly) losing a treasury secretary in record time.

I'm sorry, but be honest. Barry is so far out of his depth ("above his paygrade" anyone?) it's sickening and frightening at the same time.

Charging Vets for the injuries incurred while they were out on the pointy end of the stick protecting his sorry ass, for a measly $540 million, while he piddles away TRILLIONS (that's a million millions for those whom are math challenged).

Oh, and I appologize for my language. I'm in a foul mood and our resident idiot leftard trolls make for a good vent path.

exsub - obama is taking lon... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

exsub - obama is taking longer to fill his cab because he has raised the standards, like no lobbyists etc. hes setting the bar pretty high and i expect delays from that, albeit worthwhile ones

and if what i read was accurate, didnt obama seek to alter VA mewdical benefits only for vets who had alternate coverage and theoretically wouldnt need them? i dont know the underlying merits or drawbacks but i do know its not quite as you describe

and i agree with bu$h on maybe one big issue: that a stimulus is necessary. even with such an infusion our economy will be lucky to survive without some deep and widespread misery

Republicans have proposed s... (Below threshold)
STaylor:

Republicans have proposed solutions ranging from tax cuts, to smaller targeted stimulus packages to releasing restricition on energy development and energy exploration. The idea that conservatives have not offered alternative proposals and are merely attacking policies, also known as pulling a Democrat, is a lie.
It is amusing to hear Hoover's responce to the Great Depression be described as "right wing" when he did many of the same things that Obama is now doing. Increasing regulations. Check. Embarking in a trade war. Check.
And can one of you lefty trolls please explain to me how cap and trade or socialized medicine is going to help us economically? I didn't think so.
I see that eminent lefty economist Krugman has been brought up. While you did get it right that he does approve of the stimulus, you failed to mention that even he thinks that the Obama administration is unfocused and doing a less than stellar job of managing a recovery. And as for all those other notable economists, including a couple nobel laureats, who dissaprove of the Stimulus package, well I guess we will just ignore them.
Hope and Change unto you brother.

You said "almost literally ... (Below threshold)
Roy Lofquist Author Profile Page:

You said "almost literally decimated in the last year".

Sorry to pick at nits, but decimate means to reduce by one tenth. In warfare losing 10% of your forces is "advance to the rear" time.

[ actually Roy, "decimate" from the American Heritage dictionary says "To destroy or kill a large part of (a group).
Usage Problem 1. To inflict great destruction or damage on: The fawns decimated my rose bushes. 2. To reduce markedly in amount: a profligate heir who decimated his trust fund. 3. To select by lot and kill one in every ten of.

I used conditions 1 and 2 - DJ]

hes setting the bar pretty ... (Below threshold)
joh:

hes setting the bar pretty high

I'm impressed that Obama's been able to round up so many tax cheats and anti-semites in such a short amount of time.

I personally don't know any, but Obama apparently doesn't know anyone who isn't one or the other.

"raised the standards, like... (Below threshold)
STaylor:

"raised the standards, like no lobbyists etc. hes setting the bar pretty high "

Wow. I mean just...Wow.

I can't possibly believe what you write. Can you?

No lobbyists except for those seventeen or so that were given exemptions and are now part of the administration. Yea those high standards.
You know, high standards like Geithner. Real high standards there. I can see why Obama is having trouble finding people who will measure up to the awesomness that is Geithner; the man who can cause a small recession just by speaking.

I do like how you insert a dollar sign in to Bush's name.
Bu$h.
That is clever. Did you think of that by yourself? I mean I have never noticed how an S looks like a dollar sign. That is way cool.
You know what else you should do? You should put a K into republicans, like this. RepubliKans. Or even a few; RepubliKKKans. That would be uber cool and super original. (rolls eyes)
Keep speaking the truth to power peabrain.

staylor - 90s japan is a go... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

staylor - 90s japan is a good model for stimulus-driven recovery. good but not great, because japans economy wasnt in as bad a shape, whereas we have few options save a hail-mary pass

i know the neocon media machine is spreading the sentiment that the worst thing to fix a recession is a stimulus, but.... what have they been RIGHT about for the past decade plus?

Here's a true story for ya ... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

Here's a true story for ya Peabrain3000. When I married my wife, she was working for Subway as a Sandwich Artist. She had medical, and I had my medical from the Navy. When the time came for her to choose, she chose to stay with her medical, rather than be added onto mine, as Subway's dental plan was better than the one the Gov't could offer her as my dependent. So, she kept it.

When I left the service, and went to work as a DOD civilian employee at Pearl Harbor, she still kept her insurance, as now it was MUCH more expensive to have her on mine. So, if I had the bad fortune of being injured while in service putting my Butt in the line of fire to protect your (and Barry's) sorry butts, with his new plan, I would have to pay (through her insurance) for the treatment of that injury.

To be clear, we kept her coverage because they had better dental. Any guesses what they would have charged me for working aboard a Submarine (you know, the all volunteer service where mistakes usually end up with whole crews dying in one fell swoop)? Any idea? Yeah, me neither.

Now suppose what happened is what actually happened, and I was lucky enough to not be injured ever (though I had a couple close calls). During that time, I would have had to be shelling out money for coverage.

I didn't ask much in return for my service. A simple "thank you" is nice sometimes, though I never actually ask for that either. But to ask me to shell out for medical coverage while I'm out there on the pointy end of the stick is absolutely incomprehesible, and HIGHLY reprehensible.

We, litteraly, vow to give OUR VERY LIVES (if necessary) to protect you, often because we want to protect you. And you want to charge us for that?!?! Are you fucking INSANE!!! This would be a PERFECT way to reinstate the draft by driving away all the volunteers. Imagine that. OBAMA (The Annointed One) *heavenly choir* reinstating the draft, and not the hated Bushitlermcchimpy *boo!!!! Hiss!!!!*

Go back to the shallow end, kid. And STFU while your at it.

and staylor - yes, 17 forme... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

and staylor - yes, 17 former lobbyists still represents a dramatic reduction vs years past, and a heretofore almost unthinkable change to the washington currents

exsub - youre really going ... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

exsub - youre really going off the rails there, especially since im not preaching for or against whatever the VA benefits proposal was

deeep breaths, buddy

Here's a critical thinking ... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

Here's a critical thinking exercise for ya, Peabrain3000.

He said "no lobbyists" in his admin.

No lobbyists means ZERO. But again, you mime the libtard ideology without even realizing it, what with the equivocation and moving the goal posts to match your ever changing standards.

pea[brain]3000 - "exsub... (Below threshold)
marc:

pea[brain]3000 - "exsub - obama is taking longer to fill his cab because he has raised the standards, like no lobbyists etc. hes setting the bar pretty high and i expect delays from that, albeit worthwhile ones"

Tell me you're a refuge from someone's clown car. Please?

A higher bar in your estimation includes nominating those that failed to pay taxes when required and only then when nominated for a position. It also includes, I guess, those that are in fact have been lobbyists something he promised not to do. Some higher bar!

Just what friggin' planet have you been vacationing ion that you missed those little backtracks on the part of barack hussein obama?

pea[brain]3000 - "and if what i read was accurate, didnt obama seek to alter VA mewdical benefits only for vets who had alternate coverage and theoretically wouldnt need them? i dont know the underlying merits or drawbacks but i do know its not quite as you describe"

Why if true would that make a difference? FACT: U.S. Military members have been and are promised full med coverage for their committment to serve their country. For The Annointed One to make a sad assed attempt to "save money" is laughable. At Best.

pea[brain]3000 - "90s japan is a good model for stimulus-driven recovery. good but not great, because japans economy wasnt in as bad a shape, whereas we have few options save a hail-mary pass"


Buwawahahahahahah!!!

oh exsub, how desperate you... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

oh exsub, how desperate you are to paint centrists and leftists with the blackest of brushes

if u want me to acknowledge the public fact that obama wanted to hire no lobbyists and yet has done so, then lets get that out of the way

but in the meantime hes succeeding in dramatically freeing the federal govt of their contemptibly over-arching influence, and he's in no way done yet. pharma is going to get bitten in the ass and we'll all be better off for it

uh marc - your link doesnt ... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

uh marc - your link doesnt address my point of the role of japan's stimulus in their recovery, so youre not scoring points with it. but by all means try again.......

pea[brain]3000 - "oh ex... (Below threshold)
marc:

pea[brain]3000 - "oh exsub, how desperate you are to paint centrists and leftists with the blackest of brushes"

And that's different than your use of "neocon" at any and every opportunity?

"but in the meantime hes succeeding in dramatically freeing the federal govt of their contemptibly over-arching influence,"

And he's done that how?

By taking over some privately held businesses when some or all of them should have been sent into chap 11, by attempting to move the census under the purview of the WH when it's expressly forbidden by law, by signing (if he does) the lunacy called a 90% tax on AIG execs to name a few.

"uh marc - your link do... (Below threshold)
marc:

"uh marc - your link doesnt address my point of the role of japan's stimulus in their recovery, so youre not scoring points with it. but by all means try again.......

It doesn't? Yeah you're probably right, but that thinking is based on one of two things, 1. you didn't read it and knee-jerked yourself into a corner or 2. you can't read.

From the article:

But in post-bubble Japan, the economy didn't recover as expected. Instead, it stagnated -- year after painful year -- until the 1990s had earned the chilling sobriquet "the lost decade."
The scale of Japan's 1980s boom and subsequent bust was breathtaking. In the five years before its 1989 peak, the Nikkei stock average rose 275%. Property prices became so inflated that the tiny spit of land surrounding the Imperial Palace in central Tokyo was briefly worth more than the entire state of California. At the time, Japan's seemingly unstoppable rise inflamed fears among Americans that the United States had slipped into permanent economic inferiority.

When the bubble finally popped in late 1989, stock and property prices nose-dived in tandem. In less than three years, the Nikkei stock average fell 63% from its peak of 38,916. It didn't hit bottom until April 2003 and a total decline of 80%. At Monday's close of 13,326, it remains a fraction of its record high.
Go ahead explain how a lost decades is a "good model."
marc - letting those busine... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

marc - letting those businesses fail is a valid option, but i dont think too many people realize just how much those broomsticks were propping up. im against the principle of bailouts but if they head off true economic disaster then i make an exception. AI burrowed itself very deep into the heart of not just the US but several foreign economies. the bailout isnt a gift to these co's. its a loan

the 90% tax "lunacy" is a legal device to counter the lunacy of awarding millions to the actual people who brought down AIG in the first place. they dont have the power to simply forbid the bonuses and im sure you arent cheering for the crooks to get paid with bailout money

and for those who continue to revere bu$h and his legacy, they generally easily qualify as neoconservative. if the word has taken on a negative connotation, i cant say im displeased but by conventional definition the word fits

marc - i guess youre workin... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

marc - i guess youre working under the assumption that a stimulus is supposed to be an immediate and total fix for an economy's ills. its a silly assumption, but it does explain how you cook up your tortured reasonings =]

Peabody - you noticed Geith... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Peabody - you noticed Geithner can't seem to find people to even APPLY for the job. Wondered why?

Thomas de Zengotita: Why Can't Poor Tim Geithner Staff Up At Treasury? A Scandal That Calls For Diogenes?

But real tragedies cut in all directions. Here's an interesting question: why, after all this time, in this moment of desperate urgency, can't Poor Tim fill senior positions at the Treasury Department? Why is he all alone in that echoing building working with office assistants and maintenance people? Why no deputy secretary and no undersecretaries for domestic finance and international affairs?

Well, you no doubt remember that Poor Tim himself slipped past the vetting process with tax issues of his own, no more or less serious than the ones that caused Tom Daschle and Nancy Killefer to slither off stage a few weeks later. Poor Tim just happened to be the first one caught, so he got by--as an "exception."

There has been a lot of chatter about how the unprecedented rigor of the vetting process is responsible for these delays. But the flip side of that is this: could it be that the elite class of American experts on the economy--in business, in government, in academia--does not contain one honest man or woman who can step up to the mark and simply say: I'm clean? No nanny hired off the books, no illegal aliens mowing my lawn, no taxable favors from this or that powerful sponsor or friend?
Either they don't want their lives exposed - or maybe, looking at the slo-mo train wreck that the Obama administration's turning into, they don't want to be ANYWHERE near it when it really goes pear-shaped.

Can you imagine the excuses?

"Sorry! Got a sick cat, can't come over to fill out an app..."

"Sorry! Um... I just got a job at Subway and I don't want to be late for work!"

"Sorry - I'll be washing my hair for the next 4 years!"

"Sorry - TIVO died, and I don't want to miss any of my soap operas!"

"Sorry - my left front tire's down three pounds, and I can't come over till AAA comes and blows it up. I'm scheduled for August 2012, but if they come before then I'll be right over!"

No, I think Geithner's going to have a hell of a time filling his roster. Maybe he should go to a local Home Depot, see if he can pick up some 'undocumented workers' to help do his heavy lifting...

wellll thats it for me toda... (Below threshold)
peabody3000:

wellll thats it for me today - try not to miss me too much =]

"the 90% tax "lunacy" i... (Below threshold)
marc:

"the 90% tax "lunacy" is a legal device to counter the lunacy of awarding millions to the actual people who brought down AIG in the first place. they dont have the power to simply forbid the bonuses and im sure you arent cheering for the crooks to get paid with bailout money"

Legal my ass, the tax cheat himself raised the issue of illegality when he drew-up the AIG bailout and "advised" Dodd to change the wording of the bill.

As for the "crooks" not all of them are. You DO KNOW that right? You DO KNOW a good portion of them work in the section of the company that had ZERO to do with what made it fail.

And frankly, I could care less about a "measly" 160 some million when trillions are beng tossed around with much of it for BULLSHIT.

Are you really that refugee from a clown car.

wellll thats it for me t... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

wellll thats it for me today - try not to miss me too much =]

Don't worry. We won't.

Really, comment #18 needed ... (Below threshold)
epador:

Really, comment #18 needed to come with a warning. I lost Diet Coke all over my laptop screen on that one. Good thing I missed the keyboard or my MacBook would be toast.

peabody" obama is ta... (Below threshold)
retired military:

peabody
" obama is taking longer to fill his cab because he has raised the standards, like no lobbyists etc. hes setting the bar pretty high and i expect delays from that, albeit worthwhile ones"

You are absolutely correct peabody. Why Obama said that everyone under consideration for a cabinet position has to have their taxes paid now. Yep that is raising the standards for sure. It also took about half the field out of contention.

"but in the meantime hes su... (Below threshold)
retired military:

"but in the meantime hes succeeding in dramatically freeing the federal govt of their contemptibly over-arching influence, and he's in no way done yet. "

You mean like govt telling folks how much they can make and if they get bonuses they get taxed at 90%. That kind of freeing govt overarching control?

You sir are a riot. You should try out for the comedy channel. Really. The dems are calling for more regulation than ever before and you somehow spin that into less govt influence ??

Talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees.

exsub - obama is t... (Below threshold)
Stan50:
exsub - obama is taking longer to fill his cab because he has raised the standards, like no lobbyists etc. hes setting the bar pretty high and i expect delays from that, albeit worthwhile ones

No one will work for a man that is on the way out the door, even before the new paint job on his office has even dried. With this AIG debacle, the Sec Treasury will be the first one to go, even if the "Anointed" one gives him a full vote of confidence. When that happens that means that person is already on his way down the street kicking cans with a paycheck stuck to his ass.

It is no wonder that the American people, except for a few brain deads like Peabody love him. They are in the same class of illiterate people who have been indoctrinated in the government schools.

I mean I have never noti... (Below threshold)
Brian:

I mean I have never noticed how an S looks like a dollar sign. That is way cool.
You know what else you should do? You should put a K into republicans

That is cool! You know what else he should do? He should remove the "c" from "Democrats" and call them the "Demorats"! That is so awesome! And he should also do funny things with Obama's name, like call him "Obamalala" or something. Or "The Messiah"! That would be uber cool and super original. (rolls eyes)

> Remember Richard Nixon... (Below threshold)
Arthur:

> Remember Richard Nixon? ... pathetically trying to show he was somehow 'cool' by appearing on "Laugh-In"?

Cheap shot. That was during the 1968 campaign, not while he was President. So it was campaign appearance. And, by many accounts, a successful one.

Wow! This is my lucky night... (Below threshold)
STaylor:

Wow! This is my lucky night. I now have two gems of priceless liberal creativity. Observe how Brian uses my exact same words except for those that he replaces with his own substitute to make his point.
Brilliant!
I was hoping for genuinly singular attack aginst me but instead I get this gold nugget of creative and original thinking. Who knew that you could take someone else's post and slightly alter it? Truly you are poet and a bard in these misbegotten times Sir Brian to invent such an original attack. Most people use their own words, but not you, you shamlessly make use of others' and thus transform the world with your genius.
Hope and Change unto you brother.

Thank you, S. But don't sel... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Thank you, S. But don't sell yourself short. You are my inspiration for style over substance. And though I strive, I will never live up to your perfected model of snarky attack on the messenger when you've lost the argument of reason. Though from what I have observed, you retain many more opportunities to hone your talent. And so I will study with jealous awe as you continually recoil from debate and reinvigorate your collapsed ego with the sparkly magnificence of your flawless zingers. Oh, how I wish I were you!

Don't let Brian bother you,... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

Don't let Brian bother you, STaylor. He's pulled that crap on me a few times lately too. It goes like this:

I address an individual for what they said.

Brain criticizes my criticism by addressing me for what others say.

Never mind that I never said those things (like calling people terrorist sympathizers or even made fun of Hillary's ankles) - nor have I ever called Obama anything but "Obama" or Democrats anything but Democrats (okay so sometimes I conflate the entire group as "liberals"). It's more important to pigeonhole you and imply you are culpable in some way for someone else's words. It's almost as if he's saying, "Hey, you do it too!" Where have we heard that?

I've long come to the conclusion that peabody isn't worth the time. His contemptuous attitude is manifested in not only what he says but how he says it. It's as if no one here is worth the effort of even depressing his shift key to capitalize or punctuate, unless special characters can be used to denigrate of course. Hence the dollar signs for "bu$h" and the sneering happy face at the end.

All it elicits from me anymore is a big yawn.

Job opening: Chicago has a ... (Below threshold)
Razorgirl:

Job opening: Chicago has a position available for a community organizer. No experience necessary.

I swear, there is nothing O... (Below threshold)
max:

I swear, there is nothing Oyster loves more than shooting messengers.

Hi-larious, Oyster. In the ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Hi-larious, Oyster. In the very same post where you chastise me for generalizing about others when talking to you, you admit that you sometimes generalize about an entire group as "liberals".

Though in this case, I wasn't addressing you, so your quick denial of calling Obama anything but Obama is out of place; and I was addressing STaylor for his own words, so your comments don't apply.

You must be one of them comic mollusks.

Brian,In my own word... (Below threshold)
STaylor:

Brian,
In my own words. I have never called Obama any of the names you so cleverly outlined in your post, I have also never used the term Demorats. I know other people on here have, but I don't pretend to speak for them. You accuse me of recoiling from debate. What debate?
The debate that you thought you instigated by dropping a few well know right wing expergatives into a post of mine? I guess you could call that a debate. I don't. Which is why I decided to address it in a snarky post; plus snarkiness is so fun to write.
Or are you talking about the topic illuminated in DJ's post that I have addressed several times and you have failed to mention in all of your whining about insults and snarkiness? If that's the case then I will have to use your own words;
'And so I will study with jealous awe as you continually recoil from debate and reinvigorate your collapsed ego with the sparkly magnificence of your flawless zingers.'
Don't worry, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Your assessment, DJ, is spo... (Below threshold)
Barrett:

Your assessment, DJ, is spot on target. The Big Zero is an ideologue and has neither the aptitude or the background to deal with the challenges at home (i.e. the economy) or abroad.

This comment had me ROTFLMAO - "but in the meantime hes succeeding in dramatically freeing the federal govt of their contemptibly over-arching influence,"

Government interference in markets is a root cause or major contributing factor in all of the economic issues we face. And Obama would have us believe that more government is the path to peace and prosperity.

He demonstrated no leadership in the Porking of America Bill, turning the entire process over to Congressional Democrats. The least he could have done is outsourced the task to Singapore where a coherent spending plan with some hope of return on investment would have been produced. Instead, we received more current consumption financed by long-term debt, which is financial stupidity. Just ask all of the people who have been crushed by credit card debt.

He wants us to believe that a government takeover of health care, representing 1/6 of the economy and one of the few sectors that is functioning at the moment, is a good idea. He thinks that a cap and trade plan (which is a regressive tax) that will levy $1.9 trillion in new taxes over ten years will stimulate growth.

The massive government intervention and the outright assault on productive people and capital will further damage the economy. As things get worse, Obama will continue to tell people that dependence on government is the only way.

All Obama is really doing is to try to scare people into trading freedom for bread.

"Deepen, exacerbate existing problems, crises, differences, and if they don't exist, create them or convincingly claim that they exist, and then deepen, exacerbate them...and profit the most from them in any way you can, and, in the resulting chaos, blame our enemies for the whole thing." -

Vladimir Ilich Ulianov (Lenin)

PS 48 Razorgirl, you made me laugh. I wish I was as concise.

1. Scare folks out... (Below threshold)
OD:
1. Scare folks out of rational examination of an issue[...]; 2. [...]use scare tactics to advance ideology as a primary goal, overriding all other imperatives; 3. When challenged on any proposed agenda, accuse the critic of obstruction, and claim that the critic is somehow making the crisis worse by demanding due diligence; 4. When public opinion begins to turn against the use of scare tactics, switch to a pretense of optimism and success, claim that your political agenda was somehow responsible, and if it becomes obvious that the plan has failed, blame your political enemies; 5. When all else fails, distract the public through persecution of high-profile individuals, scapegoat conveniently caricatured enemies[...]

What's the terror alert in the bottom left corner of your Fox screen today, DJ ?




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