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Does This Man Ever Govern?

Watched the first 2 parts of the 60 minutes interview with Barack Hussein Obama.

It was tough. Despite being branded as an outstanding orator, when he's not having a one person discussion with his teleprompter, he is one boring dude.

Again, in his narcissistic way, he laughed at his own jokes.

I think, perhaps, he should stop trying to be humorous.

It is very apparent that he is not a naturally funny individual. Doesn't really matter, unless you try and push it, which is exactly what he does.

Bizarrely, he giggled like a school girl at the answers he was giving to serious issues. I honestly thought he was huffing some nitrous oxide during cut-aways.

I thought the most interesting point of the entire interview was when he gave his answer about the job security of Tim Geithner, who looks like a cross between a leprechaun and the Snow Miser. It was a yes or no question, and the only one in which his head nodding did not match his answers. He said no, but nodded yes when asked if there were any discussions about Timmy leaving. Go ahead and watch the interview. Not ONE other time did this occur. Very telling.

Why would he let him go? He's the perfect dupe. Already branded incompetent, calls for his resignation, damaged goods. Takes the heat off Obama.

I thought his funniest line was when he said "You can't govern out of anger". Ummm.. So I guess all your angry rhetoric involving corporate CEOs, private jets, and AIG bonuses was you just funnin' with us all, huh?

His remarks regarding V.P. Cheney's correct assessment of the Guantanamo situation were naive. He clearly wants to treat these terrorist with a law enforcement mentality.

The fact, as he states, that we have not convicted one terrorist from Gitmo is irrelevant. The point of Gitmo was to gain as much knowledge regarding the threats, intelligence, and structure of Al Qeada as possible.

You know, doing the responsible thing?

As I said, it was tough to get through.

If you were bold enough and had enough caffeine or coke in you to sit awake through it, please let us know what you thought.

I'm gonna go watch part 3. I need a nap.

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Um... linky linky?!?!... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

Um... linky linky?!?!

How about: "Why did you Oba... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

How about: "Why did you Obama, stop the trials of the terrorists that took so long to get started?" ww

This administration's level... (Below threshold)
joh:

This administration's level of incompetence is truly stunning, I was actually wishing we could have Bill back. Plus, would Kerry and Edwards have been this bad?

See how scary it is when yo... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

See how scary it is when you get a peek behind the curtain of an empty suit?

Well, when you're "The One"... (Below threshold)

Well, when you're "The One" your jokes are automatically funny. And in regard to Geithner, I think you are right....he is the perfect dupe. And in that sense, I liken him to Robert Gibbs. And in that respect I think maybe he's done the perfect con on us all. He's surrounded himself with these clowns to take the fall and look worse than him. In that light, he comes off (with the help of the TOTUS) as a gifted genius. It's the perfect scam.

Maybe he smoke one too many... (Below threshold)
Wayne:

Maybe he smoke one too many funny cigarettes. It is ironic that it is sooooooooo important to test athletes for drugs but none of our representatives. Also we care so much about a talk radio host prescription drug use but not our Congress or President's.

Preempt; don't give me "they release their physicals" nonsense. They only test and release what they want to. Representative Kennedy is an example.

Now I will get off my soapbox for now.

As always, Mr Mallow, your ... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

As always, Mr Mallow, your "analysis" is spot on.


Did you really "honestly think" the President of the United states was huffing nitrous oxide?

"Tim Geithner, who looks like a cross between a leprechaun and the Snow Miser..." Umm, does it matter what the guy LOOKS like?

"He clearly wants to treat these terrorists with a law enforcement mentality." You mean, these SUSPECTS, who have not been charged with any crime but have been held incommunicado for the last eight years? Those terrorists? That's naive? What did Bush intend to do with the Gitmo detainees? Hold them forever? Or did he intend for them to have a day in court someday?

Speaking of lying frauds, d... (Below threshold)
914:

Speaking of lying frauds, does anyone have proof that Obamas teleprompter was born in the USA?

BruceHave you ever... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Bruce

Have you ever heard of Sarcasm? Here is some you might recognize from the left - McChimpyHaliburton Bushilter.

See how sarcasm on the right slightly differs from sarcasm on the left?

"You mean, these SUSPECTS, who have not been charged with any crime but have been held incommunicado for the last eight years? "

A. They are not suspects. They are terrorists.

b. THey havent been held for 8 years. They havent even been held for 7. How about a bit of honesty Bruce?

C. DO you want to take them into your home? How abour your neighbors? Yeah I thought not considering their home countries dont even want some of them.

d. How many released from GITMO have returned back to fight against Americans? 60? 70? Gee maybe once the war is over we can turn them loose again. But not on American soil.

e. They didnt sign the Geneva convention. Let them rot.

f. If Liberals actually had some umm let me put this nicely, BALLS then this wouldnt be an issue at all. How about that great Icon that Obama fashions himself after named FDR that created Japenese Internment camp? Or hey Lincoln who suspended Habeus corpus?

g. Why hasnt Obama released them yet? My could it be that EVEN HE has enough sense to listen to his teleprompter tell him that if one of them commits an act of terrorism it would make him look bad. That is the ONLY reason he hasnt released them yet.

h. They will be out of GITMO in less than a year now anyway since Obama said that GITMO was gonna be closed in a year. of course they havent even started having talks on it yet so umm lets see if they make another uninformed hasty decision to try to buy some capital with the democratic left.

BruceBTW where wer... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Bruce

BTW where were you when Ted Rall was calling Condi RIce a house N*gger and Collin Powell an Uncle Tom? What no faux bit of outrage there?

Bruce"Did you real... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Bruce

"Did you really "honestly think" the President of the United states was huffing nitrous oxide?

"Tim Geithner, who looks like a cross between a leprechaun and the Snow Miser..." Umm, does it matter what the guy LOOKS like?
"

So tell me does Bush really look like a Mcchimpyhaliburton bushitler ? Whatever that looks like.

What does it matter waht the guy looks like? SHall I point you to the thousands of links which directly compare Bush to everything from a dunce to a chimp to every other thing under the sun?

Really Bruce your "outrage" against the right doing exactly what the left has done for going on 9 years is getting REALLY REALLY OLD.

You are the atypical person who doesnt mind when your side is dishing it out but you take it like a little girl.

In this country, so far at ... (Below threshold)
glenn:

In this country, so far at least, smart people don't go into politics. Watch C-Span, and contrast the behavior, speech patterns, grammar, and content of the average pol with succesful business people you know. Smart people in this country are getting rich running companies or providing services to the rest of us. Sorry, pols, most of you are really second rate and that AIG mess and your responses to it are proof.

"Jealousy is the tribute me... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

"Jealousy is the tribute mediocrity pays to genius."
~Fulton J. Sheen

Bruce & POTUS What ... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

Bruce & POTUS
What crime would you charge them with?

They go before a tribunal to determine status. Were captured on the field of battle firing at our troops enemy combatant or were they picked up in sweep and might be wrong place wrong time. That is it.
See if they wore a Uniform and or had Identifying markings they would be Soldiers and enjoy POW status.

Now the ones engaged in targeting of civilians to cause terror. Are terrorist. And we need to lock them away forever. Now if we found that these men committed crimes like rape, house breaking and others then they would be tried for those crimes.

War is the controlled use of force to achieve a political objective. One side want to use overwhelming force to achieve victory. Victory being the unconditional surrender of your enemies.

One side has to use more force than the other. One way to do that is by killing the or wounding the enemy. Another is by denying the enemy resources among these are people. That is why ,m in war we keep the enemy soldiers until cessation of hostilities.
Now those who will not wear the uniform and blend into the population could be shot onsite.
Maybe if we took that approach the POTUS would feel better.
The issue with Progressive ideas is that in the end they always result in extreme positions.

BruceSince you are... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Bruce

Since you are so much smarter than Bush. WHat would you do?

Release them? PUt them on trial? I mean if the answer is SOOOO SIMPLE then why after Obama announced that GITMO would be closed in a year and someone had the audacity to ask "What are you going to do with them?" The answer was a him, a haw, and "We have to get back to you on that"

SO tell us your brilliant plan since you obviously dont like the first one.

Yes Bruce...Please dont kee... (Below threshold)
914:

Yes Bruce...Please dont keep us in the dark. Shine the light of Your brilliance upon us.

Umm, does it matte... (Below threshold)
Umm, does it matter what the guy LOOKS like?

Heh. 8 years of Bush-as-chimp photoshops and political cartoons expose the hypocrisy of your outrage.

Payback's a bitch, ain't it?

bh - ""He clearly wants... (Below threshold)
marc:

bh - ""He clearly wants to treat these terrorists with a law enforcement mentality." You mean, these SUSPECTS, who have not been charged with any crime but have been held incommunicado for the last eight years? Those terrorists?"

First of all eight years doesn't cover all of them, unless you have other proof your hyperbole is just that.

Secondly they have hardly been "incommunicado," in the strictest sense,they ALL have civilian lawyers assigned to them.

Moreover, by holding that statement as your true belief is indicates you are ignorant of GITMOS history and the legal proceedings arising from it.

For example, the military tribunals would have been started, ad an y completed, a hell of a long time ago if it weren't for many months, nay years spent fighting their legality. When a final ruling was determined, and deficiencies noted, the U.S. Congress addressed the matter and passed into law a new procedure for the tribunals.

And finally, what say you when obama suspended those very same tribunals that had already started for the most dangerous of your so called "suspects?"

Oh geez Adrian, seriously, ... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Oh geez Adrian, seriously, you're actually calling Obama a genius? Please don't make me feel embarrassed for you.

DaveD"Oh geez Adrian... (Below threshold)
retired military:

DaveD
"Oh geez Adrian, seriously, you're actually calling Obama a genius? Please don't make me feel embarrassed for you."

Well you have to consider the fact that it is Adrian we are talking about. Compared to her Obama is a genius. Doesnt say much for her though does it?

h. They will be out of G... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

h. They will be out of GITMO in less than a year now anyway since Obama said that GITMO was gonna be closed in a year. of course they havent even started having talks on it yet so umm lets see if they make another uninformed hasty decision to try to buy some capital with the democratic left.

Actually, I'm betting that'll be one of his promises that comes with an expiration date. Probably just drop unannounced with nobody noticing (he hopes).

"Jealousy is the tribute... (Below threshold)
914:

"Jealousy is the tribute mediocrity pays to genius"

~Fulton J. Sheen


"Idiocy is an attribute shared by trolls"

~Martin J. Sheen

0wn3d.... (Below threshold)
SillyPuddy:

0wn3d.

Just finished watching the ... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

Just finished watching the videos, and (as I had watched his Leno bit) I was struck by how much of what he said was exactly the same.

Well, not EXACTLY the same, but similar enough to know he's going off his memorized talking points. I kept getting the impression of someone at an interview trying to say all the right things. And, to me, that's telling. He already HAS the most powerful and influencial job he'll ever have. He can stop trying to tell us what he thinks we want to hear.

Or maybe that too is the point. That's all he knows. The penultimate politician, always worried about saying what he thinks people want to hear.

Very unimpressive, to be perfectly honest.

I desperately want to give this man a chance, but he keeps proving my initial assesments correct. I cannot believe the electorate of the United States actually voted in an empty suit.

whats the matter Bruce? Cat... (Below threshold)
1903A3:

whats the matter Bruce? Cat got your tongue?

Even with the media up his ... (Below threshold)
mag:

Even with the media up his butt, obama still can not hide the fact how classless and incomptent he is.
I truly feel he wanted to run for president just so he could say he won and satisfy his ego. But now that he has the job he really doesn't know what to do and in fact does not really want it. I mean one or two gaffes you can overlook, but there is a pattern there that is not looking very good.
I wonder if he will complete the whole four years??? My female intuition say not.

Sorry I had to leave the th... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

Sorry I had to leave the thread after stirring things up. Real life, and all that.

Yes, I know what sarcasm is. I use it myself quite often. Let me address a couple of people who replied so angrily to my comment:

RM says, "They are not suspects. They are terrorists." Really? Says who? A government official? Since when do you trust every word out of the government's mouth? And, if they really ARE all terrorists, why did the Bush administration release most of them? Could it be because they weren't terrorists, but merely suspects?

As for the Chimpy McBushitler stuff for the last 8 years, a couple of things. One, you usually didn't see that stuff in articles purporting to be serious political analysis, but on signs in street protests. Also, whatever venom "the Left" spewed for 8 years differed very little from the venom spewed by "the Right" during the Clinton years.

And it's not my job to defend Ted Rall, or for that matter anybody else. I speak only for myself. I don't believe I've ever called Bush a Chimp on Wizbang, although I have called him a fake cowboy, a phony Christian, and a national embarrassment.

For those asking "What would you do?", I don't have all the answers. I'm not President. But I do respect Habeus Corpus, and real Americans do too, in my opinion.

I do admit to a factual error. The first of the Gitmo detainees were captured in Fall, 2001. So it's been, at most, 7 1/2 years. My bad.

BH"Since when do y... (Below threshold)
retired military:

BH

"Since when do you trust every word out of the government's mouth"

Every word, umm no. But if the govt says that someone caught during the war is a terrorist than I would rather be safe than sorry.

"One, you usually didn't see that stuff in articles purporting to be serious political analysis, but on signs in street protests"

Give me a break. Look at the OPED pieces, "news articles" (Oh I forgot, they are the same thingA). You are either lying through your teeth or being blissfully ignorant. They may not have called Bush McChimpy but they accused him of everyting from cuasing the great Plague to pissing off aliens with his enviro policies.


", whatever venom "the Left" spewed for 8 years differed very little from the venom spewed by "the Right" during the Clinton years.
"

REALLY. Talk about rewriting history. Lets see we have a President who committed Perjury and whom had over 100 people around him indicted and or fled the country to get away from indictments/testifying vs the ONE that was under Bush. Again you are rewriting history Bruce.


" I don't believe I've ever called Bush a Chimp on Wizbang, although I have called him a fake cowboy, a phony Christian, and a national embarrassment.
"

So you shouldnt mind when we call Obama a phony Christian, a socialist and a national embarrassment, See how it works.


"And it's not my job to defend Ted Rall, or for that matter anybody else"

BUT WAIT. YOU JUST DID RIGHT ABOVE THE STATEMENT BY THE FOLLOWING

"One, you usually didn't see that stuff in articles purporting to be serious political analysis, but on signs in street protests. Also, whatever venom "the Left" spewed for 8 years differed very little from the venom spewed by "the Right" during the Clinton years.
"

So if it isnt your JOB then STOP DOING IT.

"For those asking "What would you do?", I don't have all the answers. I'm not President. But I do respect Habeus Corpus, and real Americans do too, in my opinion.

"

So in other words YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO BUT STAND AROUND, PISS AND MOAN ABOUT ACTUALLY HAD THE BALLS TO MAKE A DECISION AND DO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF STANDING AROUND PISSING AND MOANING ABOUT LIKE YOU ARE.

THANKS FOR THE TYPICAL LIBERAL ANSWER.

UMM I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO TO FIX IT BUT YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.

This So in other w... (Below threshold)
retired military:

This

So in other words YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO BUT STAND AROUND, PISS AND MOAN ABOUT ACTUALLY HAD THE BALLS TO MAKE A DECISION AND DO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF STANDING AROUND PISSING AND MOANING ABOUT LIKE YOU ARE.

Should read

So in other words YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO BUT STAND AROUND, PISS AND MOAN ABOUT BUSH WHO ACTUALLY HAD THE BALLS TO MAKE A DECISION AND DO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF STANDING AROUND PISSING AND MOANING ABOUT IT LIKE YOU ARE.

Congratulations Bruce.... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Congratulations Bruce.

I dub thee an empty suit.

Wow! Bruce is arranging the... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Wow! Bruce is arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Actually trying to say the right started all this venom from Clinton. Let's see. Fox News, (I know Bruce, Faux News, ha ha) started in 96 but really got going in 98. Blogs were not popular, but Bruce says it is the same things as the 8 years of very unfair pounding GW and his family received. Remember the Bush twins (GASP) went into a bar for a drink while they were underage. Oh my God. That deserved the three days of media attention. Get real Bruce. You are shooting blanks. ww

To put Barry in context, re... (Below threshold)
Bob:

To put Barry in context, remember that he crawled out of exactly the same political swamp as former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. They may not have been close friends but they were political blood brothers - on the same branch of the Chicago machine's family tree. If you look at BHO's psychology and narcissism with that view, things become clearer.

I'm starting to think that ... (Below threshold)
TOhio:

I'm starting to think that it would be good for Obama to give more of these interviews. The more they see that he is an empty suit, the faster they will wake up to the truth.

Maybe if Obama could do som... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Maybe if Obama could do something as simple as umm name a cabinet then maybe his incompetence wouldnt be so much in evidence.

I think I'd rather h... (Below threshold)
Paul_In_Houston:


I think I'd rather have him NOT govern.
Here's what happens when he DOES...

House Passes Hitler Youth Bill

He told us he was going to do this.
It's hardly HIS fault if no one listened.

-

Obamajugend!Arbeit... (Below threshold)
apb:

Obamajugend!

Arbeit macht Frei!

Hail telehitler... (Below threshold)
914:

Hail telehitler

FYI, 914: "hail" falls from... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

FYI, 914: "hail" falls from the sky. "Heil" makes old fascists get all misty eyed.

Hey, RM, I'm trying to have... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

Hey, RM, I'm trying to have a civil discussion here. Didn't anybody ever tell you that typing in all caps is the equivalent of shouting?

I see I'm not making any headway here. I admit, sometimes I criticise Mr Mallow's posts kind of reflexively. I'll choose my battles more wisely in future.

See you on another thread.

Whatever dude. Maybe the po... (Below threshold)
914:

Whatever dude. Maybe the point is I would like hail stones to pound down on mini hitler.

BHI am fully aware... (Below threshold)
retired military:

BH

I am fully aware of what ALL CAPS mean.

You are leaving because what I said was the truth and you dont have anything else to come up with.


See you in another thread so I can beat you over the head with your liberal ideas of piss and moan about something but not having any idea of how to do it better.

In this thread you chastise republicans for bad mouthing Obama but totally ignore the history that the left has with Bush.

You tell us how so bad Bush handled GITMO but when asked you offer not one wit of an idea on how you could have done any better nor do you have any idea of how to handle it now.

You said that you werent here to defend Ted Rall or anyone else on the left and then you procede to umm defend them.

It is best you leave now before you embarrass youself any more while enlightening us with your articulate discussions.

BHBTW since my sho... (Below threshold)
retired military:

BH

BTW since my shouting has discouraged you I think I shall do it more in the future. I guess I was right in another post when I said that you love it when your side dishes it out but you running away screaming like a little girl when you have to take it.

Hey, tough guy, I'm leaving... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

Hey, tough guy, I'm leaving because I'm tired of the subject, but if it pleases you to think your bully tactics chased me away, that's cool with me.

We've had a couple of nice respectful arguments in the past, RM. Look back at my comments and note my tone. Sarcastic maybe, but not insulting. I won't stoop to insults or shouting. If you want to do so, I'll ignore you.

Ever since Maggie got after me a couple of times I've tried hard to be civil, if sometimes snarky.

So think what you want about why I'm leaving this thread, Mr Manly Macho RM. See you later.

"Does this Man ever Gove... (Below threshold)
914:

"Does this Man ever Govern?"

Yes, He Governs from the left of Mussolini,Stahlin and Hitler.

George W. Bush governed to ... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

George W. Bush governed to the left of Mussolini and Hitler, jellybrain. Do you know anything about fascism, or do you just like to throw the word around like a pimply 16-year-old "anarchist" in a Rage Against The Machine t-shirt at a pro-pot rally?

Hyperbolist, Where ... (Below threshold)
maggie:

Hyperbolist,
Where are your verifiable sources as to how
President Bush lead left of Mussolini and Hitler?
If you can't back up your accusations, shut up
about Bush being fascist.
Your posts about socialism and communism being
so grand and good are sickening propaganda.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed
to repeat it.

George W Bush is pro life..... (Below threshold)
914:

George W Bush is pro life...Barack Hussein Obama is pro death..Now which one has more in common with Hitler and Stahlin? You dweezilmorph.

So munch for OBAASES THE GR... (Below threshold)
Flu-Bird:

So munch for OBAASES THE GREAT he isnt so great after all

Nazism (AKA Fascism Hitler)... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Nazism (AKA Fascism Hitler) is considered by most FAR FAR RIGHT on the political scale of things.

Socialism (Mussolini) and Communism (Stalin, Mao) are considered FAR FAR LEFT by most people.

Unless you go with the circular theory of politics (Meaning draw a circle and place political idealogies around the circle, socialism is next to communism and Nazism on one side of the circle and democracy is on the other side of the circle) then you cant be left of both Hitler and Mussolini. If you subscribe to the circular theory of politics then everything that isnt socialism, communism or Nazism is either to the left or right of it depending on which way around the circle you go.


Going in a straight line you would have

X---------X---------------X-------------------X
Communism socialism democracy Nazism

(Communism and socialism may be switched around. I dont remember which is considered more far left.




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