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Breaking: Captain Phillips is Free

This has just come across the wire. In a daring rescue mission, our Navy went in and saved Captain Phillips and on Easter Sunday of all days:

An American ship captain was freed unharmed Sunday in a U.S. Navy operation that killed three of the four Somali pirates who had been holding him for days in a lifeboat off the coast of Africa, a senior U.S. intelligence official said . One of the pirates was wounded and in custody after a swift firefight, the official said.

Capt. Richard Phillips, 53, of Underhill, Vermont, was safely transported to a Navy warship nearby.

The official was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

A government official and others in Somali with knowledge of the situation had reported hours earlier that negotiations for Phillips' release had broken down.

The district commissioner of the central Mudug region said talks went on all day Saturday, with clan elders from his area talking by satellite telephone and through a translator with Americans, but collapsed late Saturday night.

"The negotiations between the elders and American officials have broken down. The reason is American officials wanted to arrest the pirates in Puntland and elders refused the arrest of the pirates," said the commissioner, Abdi Aziz Aw Yusuf. He said he organized initial contacts between the elders and the Americans.

Two other Somalis, one involved in the negotiations and another in contact with the pirates, also said the talks collapsed because of the U.S. insistence that the pirates be arrested and brought to justice.

Fox News is reporting that Captain Phillips tried to escape once more, and this time, the Navy was prepared to act in response.

Update: Fox is also reporting that the captain is now safely on the USS Bainbridge.

Added: Captain Phillips deserves some kind of medal for bravery. It was his leadership that saved his crew:

As the pirates shot in the air, Phillips told his crew to lock themselves in a cabin and surrendered himself to safeguard his men, crew members said.

Phillips was then held hostage in an enclosed lifeboat that was closely watched by U.S. warships and a helicopter in an increasingly tense standoff.


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And what was everyone compl... (Below threshold)
JC Hammer:

And what was everyone complaining about before? ODS,ODS.

Hurrah! Now: how many of yo... (Below threshold)

Hurrah! Now: how many of you are going to take back all that dumping on Obama, since he got the man back? I guess you'll be reduced to griping that ol' Ronbo would have done it right away, in person ... Like he bombed Russian after they shot down KAL 007, sent choppers into Iran to at least try to get back our hostages (instead of making secret deals to sell them arms, then lying about it, like Carter did! ... ; -)

FWIW I am not such a hardcore liberal, e.g. I hate the Kelo decision and would oppose the G banning handguns etc. We can agree on plenty, but I don't like dumb angles on conservatism. (Not implying always the case here.)

no, JC Hammer, not "ODS"...... (Below threshold)

no, JC Hammer, not "ODS"...just recognition of a CiC of "Jimmy Carter" stature! One wonders, and we may never know, where and when the "weapons free" order came from!

And to all the rest of the ... (Below threshold)

And to all the rest of the smirking Left eager to say "I told you so"...and eagerly waiting for The One to claim credit for this...the truth (look the word up) is much different!

Obama fumbled this from moment one, and only the splendid training and devotion of the military he despises saved the day, apparently.

Yesterday Our Dear Leader declared the ocean in that area a CRIME SCENE...with floating yellow "POLICE - Do Not Cross" tape floating in an outline of the cargo ship!

Because Obamalala has been ... (Below threshold)
MPR:

Because Obamalala has been so hypocritical he will have to take it from both sides.

Phillips is lucky to be ali... (Below threshold)
Baron Von Ottomatic:

Phillips is lucky to be alive. How was he not dragged to the bottom of the sea by his enormous brass balls?

He jumped overboard for a second time and the SEALs acted. Before anyone starts beating their meat like it ate off the dinner table over Obama's leadership, he likely had no "ready, set, go" say in the SEAL team's actions. Where Obama chooses caution SEALs choose action.

We can chalk this one up to the personal initiative of Phillps and the SEALs.

What will Obama do now that it's over? Besides take credit or blame Bush, of course.

Can't dis anyone who acted ... (Below threshold)
epador:

Can't dis anyone who acted in this matter, and there's no evidence for or against the CinC in this episode. And no need for us to know or speculate.

Amen and the only easy day was yesterday.

Most likely Obambi had noth... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

Most likely Obambi had nothing to do with it this time. Maybe he'll make a statement in the near future claiming his leadership but I wouldn't hold my breath.
The initiative was clearly the Captain's and the Navy's. This time they were ready when he jumped out again...

How long til Bawney Fwank a... (Below threshold)
GianniD:

How long til Bawney Fwank and Semper Fool Murtha criticize our troops, and call them murders?

Wonder if that press conference will happen first, the one where the surrender monkey takes credit, or the one where libs claim 'diplomacy' was actually working.

Not Self But Country: US N... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

Not Self But Country: US Navy

The only Easy day was Yesterday: US Navy Seals


Now lets see where we go from Here.


See, <a href="http://wizban... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

See, I was right. Calling Obama pantywaste got him to act. Maybe he took my advice and called up Bush and asked him what to do.

His bad handling o... (Below threshold)
jp2:
His bad handling of this situation shows once again his terrible lack of experience. -Kim

Disgraceful, Kimmy.

This was definitely a "get ... (Below threshold)

This was definitely a "get out of the way and let the Seals do what they were trained to do" moment.

We should be incredibly thankful that SoS Clinton and President Obama understood that in this situation the best immediate course of action was to abandon "smart diplomacy" and allow our Navy to do whatever was necessary to ensure the safety of the hostage.

If the Obama Administration has any cojones, the fate of the captured pirate should be swift and final: trial before a military court as an unlawful combatant, followed by execution.

Neil"Now: how many... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Neil

"Now: how many of you are going to take back all that dumping on Obama, since he got the man back? "

a. There is no proof Obama did anything except sit on his ass and try to make this a crime scene.

b. I am quite certain that Obama is going to take credit for this whether he had anything to do with it or not.

c. I never dumped on Obama for this incident. In fact the best thing he could have done was tell the military "Handle it and I have your back no matter the outcome"

d. If it had gone badly I am quite certain that Obama would have gladly court martialed whoever made the call to act and mess up his to date perfect "Major international Crisis" record of 0 and 0.


For doing his job? For doin... (Below threshold)
MPR:

For doing his job? For doing what he was supposed to do? I am proudly infected with ODS. That is Obamalala Defiant Syndrome.

"Hurrah! Now: how many of y... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"Hurrah! Now: how many of you are going to take back all that dumping on Obama, since he got the man back?"

Excuse me? Obama didn't do SHIT! Obama didn't get anyone back. Phillips took responsibility for his own safety. After being caught off guard once, the Navy evidently kept divers in the water after the first aborted escape attempt.

Of course if those Somali elders take out their failure on the hostages still held, then I'm sure His Excellency will castigate all involved for their impetuous conduct that ultimately condemned others.

Congratulations to our Navy... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Congratulations to our Navy and Capt. Phillips.
"Don 't tread on me."

I'm certain that the MSM wi... (Below threshold)
hermie:

I'm certain that the MSM will once again credit Obama's 'quiet leadership', when all that he did was to get regular briefings and send FBI negotiators to a 'crime scene'. Matthews, Olbermann, Couric, etc will proclaim Obama a military genius, far superior to Montgomery and Eisenhower put together.

The Navy took out the pirates only when they had been given the opportunity by the Captain when he made his second escape attempt.

The questions remain: 1) Will the 4th pirate be arrested and taken to the US for trial, since the Obama Administration considered this to be a criminal matter subject to US law; 2) Will Obama prosecute the Navy SEALS who killed the 3 other pirates without the authority of AG Holder and the FBI (Since the FBI was designated the authority in charge); 3) When will Obama apologise to Ethiopia for the killing of its citizens, and how much in restitution will he offer them?

Somalia...I meant Somalia.<... (Below threshold)
hermie:

Somalia...I meant Somalia.

He's been apologizing to everyone else, he'll probably apologize to them eventually.

Baron - "What will Obam... (Below threshold)
marc:

Baron - "What will Obama do now that it's over? Besides take credit or blame Bush, of course."

hcddbz - "Now lets see where we go from Here."

Well, if barack hussein obama remains true to form, and continues to support the bill he rallied behind as Senator, episodes such as this would have to be "mediated" by a "higher" authority than the U.S., namely a world body, and a UN treaty called the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST).

LOST would be a form of world government with power to decide all matters relating to the two-thirds of the earth's surface covered by the oceans. All disputes arising from man's use of the sea would be heard and decided by the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea, a 21-member international court that sits in Hamburg, Germany.

There is no appeal from that court, which has the power to disregard or override U.S. laws and even the U.S. Constitution.

Can you believe how many mi... (Below threshold)

Can you believe how many military vessels we had available to devote to a single hostage, not to mention an entire special forces rescue for this one guy who wasn't even in US waters and was working for some giant corporation? Looks like the Secretary of the Navy had better get his books ready for a serious audit and prepare for some fat trimming.

hermie - "The questions... (Below threshold)
marc:

hermie - "The questions remain: 1) Will the 4th pirate be arrested and taken to the US for trial, since the Obama Administration considered this to be a criminal matter subject to US law;"

In actual fact it is, and if the captured pirate isn't brought back for trial obama may be in violation of Article 1 section 8 of the U.S. Constitution.

Marc,We have no cl... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

Marc,

We have no clue what role BHO played in this and in the net 72 hours we will see how the Administrarion handles themselves.

However, 3 pirates died, and the ultra left may demand blood as pirates turn to poor misunderstood kids with no opportunities because of white greed.
Then it will be American Arrogance and our Cowboy mentality. Which will lead to new ROE.

I hope BHO does the right thing.

Look, the only credit Obama... (Below threshold)
CDR M:

Look, the only credit Obama should get is the fact that he allowed the USS Bainbridge skipper the authority to take action if the hostage was in imminent danger. That's it. Any more credit than that is idol worship. Bush never got any Koppel lovin' for winning in Iraq. Obama kills three pirates and now he is Alexander the Great?? To quote our Democrats, it is still a quagmire there on and off Somalia and we have no exit strategy. Where's Jack Murtha for a quote today about our blood thirsty Seals? Code Pink, where'd you go? Too funny!

hcddbz - "We have no cl... (Below threshold)
marc:

hcddbz - "We have no clue what role BHO played in this and in the net 72 hours we will see how the Administrarion handles themselves."

I agree, you don't see me gnashing my teeth about what obama did, or didn't do like some (all knowing nitwits) here are doing.

For my two cents the scenario played out right, whether obama had any input other than ordering warships into the area will probably never be known.

That said, the Navy has had an applicable and stand alone Rules of Engagment (ROE) in effect that covers these type of episodes that date back to pre-Iraq war times when Saddam was smuggling oil via the Shatt al-Arab waterway and down the iranian coastline.

"The initiative" was the Ca... (Below threshold)

"The initiative" was the Captain, the Navy ..." Ummm, heh - sometimes captives try stuff and sometimes not, the rescuers work with or around it best they can. And that you guys, pretending to be savvy, would even say such silly things about "initiative" of our Naval forces - the CIC gives them their orders on policy, they work out details and take advantage of events as they happen. To talk as if they just went charging in there determined to do something cool even though a wimpy Obama either said nothing or forbade it - do you goofballs realize how silly you look?

And why is it also a "law enforcement issue"? Because the pirates operated at will and aren't agents of a government (albeit ties), especially since there's ambiguity about national sovereignty (e.g., status of "Puntland") and Somalia doesn't even have much of a real government. (Well, I suppose glibertarian cultists would consider Somalia a Randian Galtard wonderland ...)

Try this on for size, grumps:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97H4LVO0&show_article=1

Would anyone like to buy th... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Would anyone like to buy this domain name?

ObamaLiedCaptainPhillipsDied.com

Best offer.

neil b - from your link: <e... (Below threshold)
marc:

neil b - from your link: "The officials say Obama ordered the Defense Department to use military resources to rescue Richard Phillips from a lifeboat off the Somali coast."

I'm surprised... not, that's his job and to think otherwise is pure nutcake nonsense.

Also from your link - "The president also said the United States needs help from other countries to deal with the threat of piracy and to hold pirates accountable."

And that's nice talk, but in the end talk is hot air. The Alabama was seized because of the failure of the UN, NATO and the EU.

Browne... screw you... (Below threshold)
marc:

Browne... screw you

Would anyone like ... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:
Would anyone like to buy this domain name?

Talk about scraping the barrel...

Obama: Damage done already,... (Below threshold)
SillyPuddy:

Obama: Damage done already, epic fail unless followed up by further assertive action in the future, time will tell about seriousness.

US Navy: Great job as usual when given green light, their reward - budget reductions.

"Calling Obama pantywaste g... (Below threshold)
retired military:

"Calling Obama pantywaste got him to act."

Think about this. If the CPT hadnt jumped overboard then they would have still been sitting there in the middle of the ocean waiting for Obama to make up his mind.

Spin, spin, and more spin, ... (Below threshold)
JC Hammer:

Spin, spin, and more spin, get over it.

While Barry's staff was tak... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

While Barry's staff was taking a poll to see how he should act, they Navy did. Now Barry will take the credit for the bravery of an american citizen and the US Navy. ww

I am no fan of Obama, but I... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

I am no fan of Obama, but I wish we could leave him out of this. The successful resolution of this particular incident is due likely to the preparedness of our Navy and the bravery of Capt. Phillips. The captain sacrificed himself for the safety of his crew. In captivity the Navy was ready when the captain took the initiative to escape and separated himself from his captors. As far as the president goes if he put his trust in the judgement of those on the scene to wait for an opportunity and take advantage of it, good for him. I love it when the military shows what they can do when given the chance - this rescue, Iraq, you name it. God bless our servicemen and women because I can't think of any other "government funded program" that so consistently exemplifies the can do spirit of our country. For shame on asses like John Murtha and those who elected him.

jc hammer - "Spin, spin... (Below threshold)
marc:

jc hammer - "Spin, spin, and more spin, get over it."

We don't have to, the Seals from the U.S. Navy "got over it."

ww - "While Barry's staff was taking a poll to see how he should act, they Navy did. Now Barry will take the credit for the bravery of an american citizen and the US Navy."

So, in your hyper-partisan world obama gets no credit for ordering ships into the area, AND ensuring they operated under an ROE that allowed a successful resolution?

Real funny, since President... (Below threshold)
JC Hammer:

Real funny, since President Obama gave the Navy permission, not only on Thursday, but also on Friday, to do what the Navy had to do to so the captain would be released, using what ever means the Navy deemed necessary.

Sure sounds like he was in meetings all the time wringing his hands. Get over the ODS.

Think about this. ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Think about this. If the CPT hadnt jumped overboard then they would have still been sitting there in the middle of the ocean waiting for Obama to make up his mind.

True, but if the Navy had not been ready to aid the CPT, then his escape attempt would likely have failed as it did the first time. It took both the CPT making an escape attempt and the Seals being ready for it. Publicity and criticism of Obama helped motivated him enough to authorize the use of force.

Well done.<p... (Below threshold)
irongrampa:


Well done.

When we no longer produce men such as Capt. Phillips, Capt. Sullenberger and our military, we will then cease to be America.

jc hammer - "Get over t... (Below threshold)
marc:

jc hammer - "Get over the ODS"

OK, as soon as barack hussein obama stops spending like a drunken sailor, renounces any support for the Global Poverty Act, the Law of the Sea Treaty, a global currency and that his tax-cheat-in-chief refuses to do and when he specifically states his health care plan WON't include illegal aliens... etc, etc.

Then and only then will I consider the possibility.

the A/P has this headline u... (Below threshold)

the A/P has this headline up now:

"Obama twice approved force to rescue hostage"

(a) you don't run THAT headline unless there was considerable question and obvious DOUBT as to whether The One had ANY positive hand in this
-and-
(b) you don't run that headline unless you are CHEERLEADING for our Dear Leader

Thank God the Captain was rescued. But consider that IF he had been killed, the A/P would have run a headline: "Military overrode Obama's desire for restraint" or some such

A salient question for bara... (Below threshold)
marc:

A salient question for barack hussein obama:

Will he parrot Bush and say "bring it on?"

"The French and the Americans will regret starting this killing. We do not kill, but take only ransom. We shall do something to anyone we see as French or American from now," Hussein, a pirate, told Reuters by satellite phone.

"We cannot know how or whether our friends on the lifeboat died, but this will not stop us from hijacking," he said.

"We shall revenge," said another pirate, Aden, in Eyl village, a pirate lair on Somalia's eastern coast.

And of course al-reuters knows exactly where the pirate lair is. How not so shocking is that?

I don't know how I missed t... (Below threshold)
marc:

I don't know how I missed this, but I did, from the same link above:

"Killing three out of thousands of pirates will only escalate piracy," said Sheikh Abdullahi Sheikh Abu Yusuf, spokesman of the moderate Islamist group Ahlu Sunna Waljamaca.

Well, there goes all that goodwill obama gained by bowing to a Wahhabi King.

They STILL hate us.

Marc, President Obama could... (Below threshold)
JC Hammer:

Marc, President Obama could do every thing you wanted him to do and you would still have ODS. You loved to blame people having BDS, well TS, learn to live with it. Typical GOP BS.

And no, I did not vote for him, I wanted McCain/Palin ticket to win. But they didn't. But the GOP shouted real loud about supporting the President in time of war. Well, asshat, the war is still going on. Are you going to support the President? Doesn't sound like it. Works both ways, but you can't handle it.

JC Hammer, our Dear Leader ... (Below threshold)

JC Hammer, our Dear Leader responded to a question about the hostage situation a couple days ago by saying:
"I'd rather talk about the housing situation"

Yes, he was talking to Press about housing...but how hard to say something like: "Our thoughts and prayers are with the Captain"...or "I can't discuss that now, but we doing everything we can"
???

but instead he says he'd "rather talk about housing"?????????????

THAT is why he is a disaster as CiC. However, if you believe he IS ready to be CiC now, then the "good news" is that he'll get LOTS of opportunities now. Because every enemy we have is lining up to take a shot!

buckle up, buttercup!

jc hummer, opps sorry that ... (Below threshold)
marc:

jc hummer, opps sorry that should read hammer ( I think) - "Well, asshat, the war is still going on. Are you going to support the President? Doesn't sound like it. Works both ways, but you can't handle it."

Really"? Quote anything closely related to my directly, or implying I don't support the war in Iraq of Afghanistan.

"Marc, President Obama could do every thing you wanted him to do and you would still have ODS."

Convenient strawman you have there. Unless you have mental powers way beyond us mortals that can't read minds.

asswipe.

Hummer? Like the big gay SU... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

Hummer? Like the big gay SUV for insecure bald people?

hyper - "Hummer? Like t... (Below threshold)
marc:

hyper - "Hummer? Like the big gay SUV for insecure bald people?"

I would know, of the 4 gas hogs I own that model isn't one of them.

hyper, this may drive you s... (Below threshold)
marc:

hyper, this may drive you straight up the nearest wall considering your so "down with" the rights of terrorists.

Call this Obama = Bush III:

The Obama administration said Friday that it would appeal a district court ruling that granted some military prisoners in Afghanistan the right to file lawsuits seeking their release. The decision signaled that the administration was not backing down in its effort to maintain the power to imprison terrorism suspects for extended periods without judicial oversight.
Here, here. Three cheers for advocating the right policy.

Situation resolved. (period... (Below threshold)
groucho:

Situation resolved. (period)

The captain's family can breathe, finally. And who's responsible? All credit to the SEALS who pulled it off, as well as to Capt.Phillips. And maybe, just maybe, a little bit to the government's public restraint as well.

Can all who jumped on this as an outlet for their Obama derangement syndrome fix admit that it turned out OK after all, and that their paranoid, delusional projection fantasies were premature and misguided? Doubtful.

That said, go ahead and deal with any and all pirates left hanging around the area with all force sufficient to hopefully deter future hijackings.

Ever have to clean-up after... (Below threshold)
CharlieDontSurf:

Ever have to clean-up after a head shot at 25 meters?...messy.

You can come out of the clo... (Below threshold)
JC Hammer:

You can come out of the closet now if you dare to. When you have a President that has a hell of a lot more intelligence than President Bush had, and doesn't do the cowboy act, you get upset.

He has more problems on his mind than any individual. Yes, he could have said something, but he didn't. President Bush/Cheney would have ending up killing the captain with their acts. Just like some of you people wanted President Obama to do. TS, but after 8 years of a President that failed in almost every business he had a hand in, you got used to failure.

Marc, you statements sure sound like you know President Obama's mind. So if I do like you do, you don't like it? TS!

groucho - "a little bit... (Below threshold)
marc:

groucho - "a little bit to the government's public restraint as well."

Been there, done that with the exception of condemning obama's complete lack of public support to the families involved.

To avoid the subject when asked during a press-con was unbecoming of a US president. To say the least.

jc hammer - "When you h... (Below threshold)
marc:

jc hammer - "When you have a President that has a hell of a lot more intelligence than President Bush had, and doesn't do the cowboy act, you get upset."

And you know this how? Cite a knowledgeable source that shows he has more intel now.

"President Bush/Cheney would have ending up killing the captain with their acts."

Pure unadulterated guesswork on your part.

"Marc, you statements sure sound like you know President Obama's mind."

Which ones?

Was it?Do you know... (Below threshold)
groucho:

Was it?

Do you know for sure he wasn't in contact with the families involved? It's so easy to indulge in anonymous criticism, don't you think?

What should have the President said? Just wondering how YOU think foreign relations should be conducted.

Pirate terrorists are vanqu... (Below threshold)
914:

Pirate terrorists are vanquished and should be dumped as shark bait, If the sharks want them that is?

Mission Accomplished Navy

Facts:All of you w... (Below threshold)
jim:

Facts:

All of you were looking for any possible way this situation could be evidence that Obama was an awful president, pantywaist, not up to job, "Obambi", etc.

Bottom Line:

Obama kept his mouth shut, while he quietly approved the special forces mission that took care of the matter.

You all know that if ANYTHING went wrong, you would have been all over Obama for all eternity.

Since everything went right, it would in fact be fair for you to give him some credit, wouldn't it?

After all, maybe he's a competent leader you just happen to disagree with on some policy issues. Since he did manage to resolve this rather thorny situation. Just saying.

And for those of you who cl... (Below threshold)
jim:

And for those of you who claim that Obama mishandled this from the beginning - how?

I'd actually like to hear what you think Obama could have and should have done differently with regards to this specific situation.

jim: "I'd actually like ... (Below threshold)

jim: "I'd actually like to hear what you think Obama could have and should have done differently with regards to this specific situation."

Treat it as an act of WAR, instead of as a "crime scene". The bombing of the Twin Towers in 1993 was treated as a "crime scene"...guaranteeing that an ACT OF WAR would someday be perpetrated against the same target!

Obama has kicked the can down the road...but, oops, he is still CiC...and the "can" is still in the road!

Marc, I wasn't talking abou... (Below threshold)
JC Hammer:

Marc, I wasn't talking about intel, to most people with some knowledge, intelligence means brains. And you are showing your lace of intelligence with you ODS.

And since you talk about intel, most people with intelligence knows President Bush didn't believe the intel he received, plus the Dowing Street Memo's prove it. So much ODS, relaxe Marc, your rantings just make you look dumber than dumb.

Finally, Obama did one thin... (Below threshold)
Daylo:

Finally, Obama did one thing right since he has been in office, but he did very, very slowly and carefully as if to prevent a Jimmy Carter moment.

I am actually surprised he let the Navy do what they do best. I am just sorry they didn't cut off the pirates' heads and serve them to their leader's up on a silver platter.

Daylo is surprised that the... (Below threshold)
groucho:

Daylo is surprised that the president "let the Navy do what they do best". Does he think that previous presidents have had more of a hands-on type of involvement?

I suspect that if heads were actually cut off that it would have been too few and too late. Just saying.

jc hammer - "Get over the O... (Below threshold)
retired military:

jc hammer - "Get over the ODS"

Umm Yeah. As soon as you guys get over the BDS we might consider looking at the reasons for our behavior. That will be ummm never.

JC hammer - "He has more problems on his mind than any individual."

Actually he has more distractions on his mind than any individual. Just ask the press.

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Justrand

JC Hammer, our Dear Leader responded to a question about the hostage situation a couple days ago by saying:
"I'd rather talk about the housing situation"

Well hell what do you expect? I mean he can try saying that is above his paygrade again but he may catch more flak for it this time around than the last. Or he could vote Present when they ask if they have a go to attack the pirates. :)
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Jim

"Obama kept his mouth shut, while he quietly approved the special forces mission that took care of the matter."

We "know" (and I use that term very loosely) because that is what they said after everything was safe and done. What is Obama going to do when you have to make a decision without waiting for it to play out and then claim credit for it. After all we only have Obama's word that that is what happened. You know the same guy that said he wasnt going to raise taxes, pay attention to Habeus corpus, put things on the net for 5 days before signing, not sign any bills with earmarks, didnt bow before the Saudi King, etc etc. In short Obama has proven himself a liar and nothing in this instance proves whether he is telling the truth or not. Given his track record I will play the safe bet and believe he is lying his ass off.


"You all know that if ANYTHING went wrong, you would have been all over Obama for all eternity."

Again. Nice when you have 20 20 hindsight before you step up and take credit for the good stuff. I umm see the left still all over Bush's ass about stuff they percieved he did wrong. STOP WHINING if Obama gets treated the same as you guys treated Bush. You sound like little school girls.


"Since everything went right, it would in fact be fair for you to give him some credit, wouldn't it?"

What for? Waiting to say anything until after the operation is a success. Hell I invented nuclear reactors 50 years before Einstein was born. Prove that I didnt.

"After all, maybe he's a competent leader you just happen to disagree with on some policy issues."

That remains to be seen.

"Since he did manage to resolve this rather thorny situation."

Says you and the adoring press corps. All I see is exactly what I expected. Obama taking credit after the fact and ONLY WHEN THINGS WENT RIGHT.

For all you OBama ASS KISSE... (Below threshold)
retired military:

For all you OBama ASS KISSERS.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/04/how-the-rescue-happened.html

"I just finished listening to the press conference w/ ADM Gortney about the rescue of Captain Phillips. At the time it happened the USS Bainbridge was towing the lifeboat to calmer waters as the sea state was deteriorating. One of the pirates was on board the Bainbridge as the talks about obtaining Phillip's release continued. The lifeboat was approx. 25 m behind the Bainbridge when snipers on the fantail observed one of the pirates in the pilot house of the lifeboat pointing an AK-47 at the back of a tied up Phillips and the other two pirates on board were visible (at least shoulders and heads). The standing authority gave them clearance to engage the pirates if the life of the captain was in imminent danger. The on scene commander deemed this to be true and gave the order to fire. All three bad guys were taken out and then a rigid inflatable boat went to the lifeboat to retrieve Phillips. Iti is unknown at this point whether the shooters were SEALs or Marine Scout Snipers as both would have been available. This was not a rescue attempt ordered by National Command Authority i.e. the President. It was a reaction by the on scene commander under standard authority to safeguard the life of a hostage.

The AP is reporting that President Obama gave the order to use military force to rescue the hostage, that is misleading.
"

"The officials say Obama ordered the Defense Department to use military resources to rescue Richard Phillips from a lifeboat off the Somali coast. " (considering you have military ships on the scene well umm DUH to the press).

He did affirm the military's authorization to use force if the captain's life was in danger, but they already would have had that authorization as part of their standard rules of engagement.

(so Obama did nothing special if in fact he did that since we dont know as he never took credit until after a succesful conclusion. A cowards act at best IMO)


So lets take a look at what... (Below threshold)
retired military:

So lets take a look at what happened.

a. Obama let the navy send ships into the area.

b. Obama was asked if a rescue attempt could be made if the CPTs life appeared to be in danger (gee that is a nonstarter even for Obama)

c. The CPTs life appeared to be in danger and the military acted.

d. Obama tries to take credit for something after it was concluded succuesfully.

e. No suprise.

groucho - "Do you know ... (Below threshold)
marc:

groucho - "Do you know for sure he wasn't in contact with the families involved? It's so easy to indulge in anonymous criticism, don't you think?"

Pathetic attempt at stuffing a strawman so full it pukes-up bales of hay.

Never said he wasn't in contact with the families, and I hope you would know that instead of being a dupe of epic proportions.

My specific, and only criticism was when asked he simply could have said the proper authorities were working the issue and his hope and prayers were will the family.

He didn't he brushed that opportunity aside like a pesky housefly.

jim - "After all, maybe... (Below threshold)
marc:

jim - "After all, maybe he's a competent leader you just happen to disagree with on some policy issues. Since he did manage to resolve this rather thorny situation. Just saying."

That remains to be seen. This issue is far from over. At this point he must deal with the issue on the ground, not at sea.

jc hammer - "And since ... (Below threshold)
marc:

jc hammer - "And since you talk about intel, most people with intelligence knows President Bush didn't believe the intel he received, plus the Dowing Street Memo's prove it."

On the contrary, he acted on the vast amount of evidence that favored what he did, not on the outlier evidence. The fact you even mention the downing street memos unmasked you as a borderline loony.

C above should read<p... (Below threshold)
retired military:

C above should read

c. The CPTs life appeared to be in danger and the military acted which was their SOP in cases like this.


and yo have to love this

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090412/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_piracy_obama

"To that end, White House officials said the Justice Department is looking at evidence and considering whether to file criminal charges against a Somali pirate captured during the standoff"

In other words they dont even know if they are going to charge the last pirate or not.

Typical liberals.

We "know" (and I use tha... (Below threshold)
jim:

We "know" (and I use that term very loosely) because that is what they said after everything was safe and done.

OK then. So you have no evidence Obama doesn't deserve credit, and evidence that he does, but you still want to withhold giving Obama credit.

Your privilege, but let's just be clear that's exactly what you're doing.

I umm see the left still all over Bush's ass about stuff they percieved he did wrong. STOP WHINING if Obama gets treated the same as you guys treated Bush.

You are make this false equivalence that because some criticized Bush with *facts*, they are wrong to call others out for criticizing Obama *wihtout* facts.

Criticize Obama as much as you want. It's a free country, and it will benefit from your criticism of Obama. But you should at least be able to provide facts.

Ref#68: You tell them piano... (Below threshold)
JC Hammer:

Ref#68: You tell them piano, you been fingered.

Oh, and retired military:</... (Below threshold)
jim:

Oh, and retired military:

Obama tries to take credit for something after it was concluded succuesfully.

Actually Obama has not taken any credit. His full statement is here:

http://www.defenselink.mil//news/newsarticle.aspx?id=53899

""I am very pleased that Captain Phillips has been rescued and is safely on board the USS Boxer," Obama said in a White House statement. "His safety has been our principal concern, and I know this is a welcome relief to his family and his crew.

"I am also very proud of the efforts of the US military and many other departments and agencies who worked tirelessly to secure Captain Phillips' safe recovery," he said. "I share the country's admiration for the bravery of captain Phillips and his selfless concern for his crew. His courage is a model for all Americans."

So, since you have said something about our current commander in chief which was actually incorrect, I expect you'll correct that. Right?

Jim"OK then. So yo... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Jim

"OK then. So you have no evidence Obama doesn't deserve credit, and evidence that he does, but you still want to withhold giving Obama credit.
Your privilege, but let's just be clear that's exactly what you're doing
"

Exactly what you would have done ref Bush.
And BTW facts support my side of the story.


"You are make this false equivalence that because some criticized Bush with *facts*, they are wrong to call others out for criticizing Obama *wihtout* facts."

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA Here let me rewrite that for you to make it a factual statement.

You are make this false equivalence that because some criticized Obama with *facts*, they are wrong to call others out for criticizing Bush *wihtout* facts.

There that is much better and a lot more true.

"Criticize Obama as much as you want. It's a free country, and it will benefit from your criticism of Obama. But you should at least be able to provide facts.

"

Facts.

Obama is a liar

As I have laid out above.

Here I will repeat myself.

". After all we only have Obama's word that that is what happened. You know the same guy that said he wasnt going to raise taxes, pay attention to Habeus corpus, put things on the net for 5 days before signing, not sign any bills with earmarks, didnt bow before the Saudi King, etc etc"

I mean Obama is lying about bowing to the Saudi king when it is right there on video tape. You dont think he wouldnt lie about this.

Go back to grade school and try to come up with a more convincing argument.

JimI will grant yo... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Jim

I will grant you this. Obama did make one decision within the past few days that is on par with his abilities and experience.

He chose which dog to get his daughters.

I never saw nor heard so mu... (Below threshold)
Greg:

I never saw nor heard so much credit to any president in the past. It blows me away how many times Barack's name is attached to this resuce.
Bush approved rescue missions that were successful too, but I never heard one work about "BUSH" doing it.

I think the fact that we are hearing Barack's name so much, proves the lack of faith that so many Americans have in him regarding these matters.
NOTE: What was Baracks alternatives :-)
a) Not to approve a rescue attemt? DUH!
b) Approve a resuce attempt (the only humane thing to do)?

Even if the attempt failed he would have been better off than not approving an attempt.

As some others have said. Lets see what the future has to say about Barack. He said he is withdrawing the troups regardless of the rise in violence. Will he follow through?

The only thing I can say good about Barack is that his lies (going back on his word), has been for the better. If he would be more consistant with abandoning his plans for America, we would have a great president who we can trust won't do what he says. We could even trust his lies :-)

And BTW facts support my... (Below threshold)
jim:

And BTW facts support my side of the story.

OK, please list those facts and prove me wrong.

That shouldn't be any difficulty, right?

And let me be very specific... (Below threshold)
jim:

And let me be very specific: I am referring to facts showing that Obama acted in some way improper regarding this piracy, and the way it was dealt with.

Well, retired military - pe... (Below threshold)
jim:

Well, retired military - perhaps you think that choosing a dog is more important than bringing US citizens to safety, and showing the world that pirates cannot hold our citizens hostage and get away with it.

I guess I'll just have to disagree.

JimAs I said it is... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Jim

As I said it is the one thing recently that Obama has been qualified for.

" I am referring to facts showing that Obama acted in some way improper regarding this piracy, and the way it was dealt with.
"

High standards for someone who abstained from voting until after the vote was closed and then said "I was for it"

Look at the caption contest picture again and remember. According to the White House IT WAS NOT A BOW.

Facts

Obama didnt say until it after it was over.
Obama is a liar.
The newspapers are in the tank for OBama so if he said the sky is orange on a clear sky they will report strange orangish atmospheric phenomeah (as shown by the bow)
Per the briefing the Admiral gave the SOP was to take action if the hostage's life looked to be in danger.
THIS White House isnt going to do anything on its own until it is absolutely SURE they wont get blamed for it. example quote above from newspaper.
""To that end, White House officials said the Justice Department is looking at evidence and considering whether to file criminal charges against a Somali pirate captured during the standoff"

Gee they are looking at evidence and considering to file criminal charges.

Gee Jim do you have a like hose to breath out of with your head so far up Obama's ass.

JimIt is appropria... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Jim

It is appropriate that yesterday was Easter. Your god has risen. Obama can do no wrong and is perfect in your eyes. No matter his blatant lies, lack of experience, and inability to articulate a single decision until after the outcome has not only been deteremined but played out.

If Obama said "the sun will rise today" and made that prouncement at 4 pm than you would take it as further evidence that Obama is just so smart, so competent, so good that even the sun listens to him.

Talk about drinking the kool-aid boy. You own the factory.


JimIf this had bee... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Jim

If this had been Bush instead of OBama the following would have happened.

a. You would have been here berating what happened no matter how it turned out and especially if the hostage had died.

b. if the hostage had lived you would have given zero credit to Bush no matter what he did.

c. Bush would have had the balls to make some kind of announcement giving indications of his orders a lot sooner than 4 days after the incident had started and AFTER the incident was over.

d. Bush would have praised the military for their swift action. Their would have been zero praise in the newspapers for Bush no matter what he did or how it turned out.

e. The standoff would have been about 3 days shorter.

Oh and C and E would have b... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Oh and C and E would have been true if Hillary had been President. She has more balls than Obama as well.

ANd at least Hillary wouldn... (Below threshold)
retired military:

ANd at least Hillary wouldnt have bowed to the King of Saudi (or anyone else for that matter).

Calm down, RM. These repeat... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

Calm down, RM. These repeated posts where you get angrier and angrier are cringeworthy.

President Obama did his job, quietly and without grandstanding. The Navy did its job brilliantly, the pirates are dead or captured, and Capt. Phillips is safe.

What more do you guys want?

jay Jay Tee,... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

jay

Jay Tee,

Looks like the reach out and touch plan, did work in the enclosed life boat. Don't know if they were SEALS or Marines the Navy has always placed special emphasis on sharp shooters.
Which is why I had all faith in the operators ability to carry this off.

Here's what we know:... (Below threshold)
Jesus:

Here's what we know:

* The Americans are safe
* Some of the pirates got away, some were captured ("in the water" back last week), some are dead, one is waiting to see what happens
* Once SEALs got involved, bad guys got killed and problems got solved
* Obama and the White House had no specific statements of position prior to the resolution

So President Obama gets neither credit nor blame for this particular situation. The test ahead is the piracy issue itself - will he now direct US forces to wipe out the area's pirates as the sole power with the realisitic ability to do so? Or, since the Alabama was the only US-flagged freighter to be the target of pirates so far, will he weasel out and leave ships of other nations to face this crisis on their own?


Having Captain Phillips res... (Below threshold)
Tammy:

Having Captain Phillips rescued was such a wonderful Easter gift!! Our house rejoiced. Lots of prayers have gone up for him and his family the past few days.

As I write this, O has already taken credit for what happened, as I figured he would, egomaniac that he is. However, I salute our Navy Seals! That's how it's done! Of course, it could have been over much earlier if O wasn't busy coloring Easter eggs.

My invisible friend and tat... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

My invisible friend and tattletale, Gazoo, informs me that the Wizbang natives were hoping for ignominious failure on behalf of US interests, up to and including the death of the captain, so as to invoke the anger and frustration of the American people against Obamalamamumba, The Emperor Jones.

I answered back, "Well, d'uh!...No dough."

Then he said, "What if I told you that President Sidney Poitier will run fire missions over Somalia on Tea Party Day?"

"Hmmm.", says I. "I doubt it...but here's 5 bucks."

Sydney Poitier is a very go... (Below threshold)
914:

Sydney Poitier is a very good actor. Obama is a very lousy President. Wheres the correlation?

If Your friends with "Gazoo" You must be Fred Flintstone?.. And that would be perfectly believable..Given the bedrock between Your ears.

These four sololia crinimal... (Below threshold)
Flu-Bird:

These four sololia crinimals had demanded a big ransome and now three of them are dead and the survivor should be hanged

OK, well, look. It feels li... (Below threshold)
jim:

OK, well, look. It feels like I've fallen into bickering here. We can be well apart on the partisan divide, and that's fine.

The important thing is that the good guys won, and the innocent are saved and at home with their families.

And as a side note and a peace offering, it would sadden me but not surprise me if Obama does turn out, in the final analysis, to have been lying about any number of things. I have low expectations of all seeking political office, whether or not I agree with their espoused ideology.

Politicians are car salesmen. That doesn't necessarily mean they're always trying to rip you off; but they all will always tell you what they think you want to here. That's why you always have to check the sticker price and do your research. From FDR to Reagan.

Bruce henryAs some... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Bruce henry

As someone who was paid your tax dollars to enhance my career opportunities and as someone who receives your tax dollars to pay my retirement I say whole heartedly and weith all cringeworthyness

FUCK YOU

That should read "paid by y... (Below threshold)
retired military:

That should read "paid by your tax dollars"

Hello! The oddest thing is ... (Below threshold)
eva:

Hello! The oddest thing is this president did not get any bad rap from the media for doing what's right---"Ordering to Shoot!" It was reported the victims were all in their late teens. THEY were all TEENAGERS!!! HUH!!! And we're not hearing any outcries from this mainline media such as CNN or MSNBC? I'm pretty sure, if this crises happened under Fmr. PRES. BUSH, the nation will hear of it. CHILD MURDERER! But not Obama. HYPOCRITES!!!




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