Those 'results' memos will never see the light of day if Obama has any say in the matter.

Cheney has gone from *Command* to "Ask", skipping *Request* entirely. Perhaps a personality crisis, perhaps his batteries are low, perhaps he's been locked in the basement for months and just got rescued today. Anyway, a self-administered knock to Darth's suite cred.

President Obama: a "so?", a "so what?", a "who cares?", or a "f@ck you", would be a wholly appropriate response. Or you can be a little stinker and ignore him.

The One is "cutting" 100 MILLION out of the $5 TRILLION he has spent or is proposing to spend this year!

That is a ratio of roughly 50,000 : 1.

I believe the odds of Obama releasing memos that will show what these methods ACCOMPLISHED are roughly the same!

In further news, VP Cheney asks Obama "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

If he releases, and you guys and Hannity aren't total hypocrites, you'd be upset that we're releasing things we should (as you were with the OLC memos). Or Obama restricts the release and he's holding back.

All this assuming that said memos exist in the first place. We have only Cheney's proclamations at this point.. and he has an incredibly vested interest here.

"Torture doesn't work!"

"Okay - show us the memos on how it failed."

"We can't. We don't want them to know it failed."

"You'll broadcast complete info on all the techniques, tell us it doesn't work, then redact all the info on results?"

"Yes. You don't need to know HOW it failed. Just take our word for it."

Jake: 'In further news, VP Cheney asks Obama "Have you stopped beating your wife?"'

Nope.

Actually, in keeping with your metaphor, Obama claimed that BUSH and CHENEY beat THEIR wives! So now Cheney is saying: "You have affidavits from our wives telling you EXACTLY how they were treated...why won't you release them??"

Why is this d-bag still running his mouth, and more importantly, why is anyone covering it?

Almost every American hates you, Dick. You had lower approval ratings than even Dubya did.

You had the pulpit to take on President Obama man to man in last year's election, but you knew it would have been even more of a laughingstock landslide than it turned out to be with McCain, so you choose to snipe in your creepy, snivelly voice about matters which do not concern you.

Do us all a favor and creep back under the rock you slithered out from under.

"Why is this d-bag still running his mouth, and more importantly, why is anyone covering it?"

You could always go to Fox News and pitch a fit and throw red noses.

"Almost every American hates you, Dick."

Yes, his approval rating was lower than Bush's, but almost every American hated him? "Forty-four percent of Americans now view Cheney unfavorably, while 42 percent are undecided or haven't heard enough." And that was a CBS News/New York Times poll.

"You had the pulpit to take on President Obama man to man in last year's election, but you knew it would have been even more of a laughingstock landslide than it turned out to be with McCain, so you choose to snipe in your creepy, snivelly voice about matters which do not concern you."

Right. You first impart to us how Cheney leaves office with an approval rating lower than Bush and then you ridicule him for not running for President. And yeesh, your definition of a landslide is weak. This is a landslide.

"[C]reepy snivelly voice". Whassa matter, Ryan? Are you still angry that people haven't been silenced like you hoped?

Matters which do not concern him? Are you kidding me? He was Vice President of the administration that is the focus of this issue. Oh, that's right, he's supposed to "shut up". I guess he didn't get your memo.

Bryan

"Cheney has gone from *Command* to "Ask", skipping *Request* entirely. Perhaps a personality crisis, perhaps his batteries are low, perhaps he's been locked in the basement for months and just got rescued today. Anyway, a self-administered knock to Darth's suite cred."

If it was say Obama asking they be unclassified they would have probably shown up on the front page of the NY Times with the Top Secret markings still showing.

Enhanced interrogation worked. Dick Cheney knows it It the one is capable of reading, he should konw it. If the inteerogations had not worked, Obama would have already leaked the memos.

So how Obama making the nation safer by revealing and banning interrogatino methods that work? Spin that, Robert Gibbs.

Let me clarify my post in number 9.

If Obama had requested they be declassified prior to the election and the nY Times had access to them they would have appeared on the front page (declassified or not) with the Top secret markings still showing.

What if the means don't justify the ends, Dick? That's something he doesn't consider akin to most sociopaths.

He's chief of the bitters at this point. Getting funnier with every Hannity interview.

Ah! Now someone who has served in the congress, and SOD and VP is a sociopath according to jp2. Another example of MANY of how the extreme left is full of hate.

The extreme left wants to charge Cheney for torturing, Cheney is for releasing memo's to show the american people the system worked and kept us safe, but the left all of a sudden doesn't want to know.

I think Barry doesn't want to release them because of the changes he put forth since he was lamely sworn in would prove he made us unsafe. Thanks Barry and the extreme left. ww

Cheney's request is a fair one. We now know our government tortured prisoners. Let's find out if something useful came of it.

In other news, Obama asks Indonesia clerics to declassify His certificate of birth. Cheney could not be reached for comment.

"Enhanced interrogation worked."

Good to know that we can officially say that TORTURE (let's call a spade a spade here) worked - you being an expert in governmental affairs and all.

"Dick Cheney knows it It the one is capable of reading, he should konw it. If the inteerogations had not worked, Obama would have already leaked the memos."

Now THERE'S some fantastically solid logic! "It worked because Obama hasn't released memos that may or may not exist!"

Yikes.

Threatening to put a caterpillar in a box with a terrorist is now considered torture? They do worse on Fear Factor. You guys are officially a bunch of pussies.

It's so very interesting to see bryanD and the other libs here hoping for certain documents to be covered up, while they are the same ones who claimed we should have access to everything. Hypocrites time and again. You just don't want to know the truth do you? Obama releases documents that say there was "torture", and "torture" is bad, case closed for you, never mind any actual results.

I am with TIM. You lefty extremists need to grow a pair. I am personally convinced that the Islamic Terrorists are still planning to kill me, my family or my fellow citizens for no reason more then we are americans and have a different view of faith and life. Barry and the extreme left think the terrorist, I mean man made bad people, just want republicans dead.

You cannot talk someone out of killing you if he not only wants to die but thinks he or she will be rewarded in heaven for doing so. ww

Obama releases documents that say there was "torture", and "torture" is bad, case closed for you, never mind any actual results.

You would be correct if you weren't being sarcastic. A civilized country should never, ever torture prisoners, no matter their legal status, and no matter how the civilized country's opponents might treat their enemies. Proponents of torture would do well to shut up about this issue, lest their grandchildren some day discover that they were among the despicable minority who defended the practice.

Well, this certainly shows that the criminal Bush administration lied when they said America doesn't torture.

Fascist like Cheney always use the enemies of their nation to start doing reprehensible things. He will try to drum of fear so that he can somehow justify being a war criminal. I would say he is doing it to make some peace with his conscience but sociopath's don't have such a thing.

"He will try to drum of fear so that He can somehow justify being a war criminal."

You know jmc You are so right. Darth Cheney has taken up drum lessons to be a scary rocker and distract us all from His torturistic war crimes.

"Enhanced interrogation worked." - Quoth Mr. Jake.

"Good to know that we can officially say that TORTURE (let's call a spade a spade here) worked - you being an expert in governmental affairs and all." - Sayeth Mr. Jake

And when can we stop laughing at "Overseas Contingency Operations" and "Man-Made Disasters"? I mean, if you want to call a spade a spade...

Can I say that? Is that racist?

I hope that the memos that Cheney is advocating the release for do see the light of day - but it won't happen if the Obama Administration has anything to say about it. For the last eight years we have heard that the Bush Administration was "politicizing intelligence information" and now when we see the worst example of this occurring the liberals are totally silent - or silently praying to the liberal god Obamalala or whatever it is they believe in that the truth won't come out that enhanced interrogation techniques actually work. There is no overriding national security claim they can make to withhold these memos but I guarantee you they will not be released unless a lawsuit is filed and a court orders them to be released - or they somehow get leaked. That is assuming they aren't being shredded as we speak...

Open and transparent government only applies to the Obama Administration when being open and transparent is convenient for them. Unless we see these memos we cannot have an open and honest debate about this issue which is precisely why we saw this selective release. Open and honest debates are not something they are in favor of because they know that what will be revealed will not be helpful to their argument.

You know jmc You are so right. Darth Cheney has taken up drum lessons to be a scary rocker and distract us all from His torturistic war crimes.

Who said he was distracting? Rationalizing is more like it. Kinda like when an abusive husband smacks his wife and blames her for not shutting up when she was supposed to. Cheney is a sorry excuse for a human being.

One thing I wanted to add was does it not strike people as odd that Obama continues to order Predator strikes inside sovereign nations like Pakistan where inevitably these strikes kill not only terrorists but regrettably innocent women and children yet the liberals are silent about all this? Now don't get me wrong: I support these actions because I realize we are at war with these people and it is a simple concept that we need to get them before they get us. But at the same time, liberals are wringing their hands about a handful of terrorist detainees who have been roughed up to extract vital intelligence information. The people on the other end of the missile strike were not served with a search warrant or given due process before they got vaporized so why no outrage from the liberals who are interested in the rule of law or at least claim they are? This hair-splitting of what is okay with them and what is not is pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

The bottom line is this: enhanced interrogation techniques work. The common misconception people have about torture is that a person being tortured will confess to anything. Now I personally don't believe that waterboarding fits the definition of torture if only because our special forces personnel and pilots undergo the same training as part of their SEAR training. Nevertheless, they are not doing these things to them to get them to confess to a crime. They do it to get information and they do it by first asking questions they already know the answers to. Then they go on to other questions and information they receive as a result is checking and corroborating this information with other sources. And the facts are we have gotten actionable intelligence information from the small handful of people who were waterboarded that helped prevent future attacks.

The thing that drives me crazy about liberals is they always have the right ideas about what we should not be doing yet they don't suggest anything that will help get the same kind of results that we have gotten by doing the things they find so objectionable. I have sad news for all these people: giving a terrorist detainee a halal meal, a Koran and a prayer rug is not going to get us any valuable information...

Who said he was distracting? Rationalizing is more like it. Kinda like when an abusive husband smacks his wife and blames her for not shutting up when she was supposed to. Cheney is a sorry excuse for a human being.

And you're a sorry excuse for a man. Afraid of a caterpillar. Good grief.

hyperbolist, maybe you could go back and notice the quotations I placed around "torture". It's called reading comprehension. Sorry, I just don't consider placing a caterpillar in a cell with a guy who's terrified of caterpillars "torture".

Now once again, want to answer as to why the lefties claim to want access to all these classified documents but yet not the ones that might prove results?!

D-Hoggs, I think I have it figured out. See, if a woolly caterpillar is extra-fuzzy, it means winter is going to be really cold (it's the original Gore Effect). That would be devastating to AGW theory, which would make the lefties all sad and stuff.

Is Obama EVER going to be definitive about where he stands or prosecution of Bush Administration officials in regards to this issue? He looks like an abject amateur every single day. It is like he has no executive experience at all...

I would swear that he is checking in with the liberal blogs to see what he should be doing on a daily basis and that is how he forms his policies. If the criticism is minor he backs off on the campaign-style rhetoric but when the furor and outrage comes from all the leftists out there Obama raises the possibility again today of potential prosecutions but then says he is "concerned about this getting so politicized" when he is probably more responsible than anybody for making it so. And then he still has the unmitigated gall when he constantly says he prefers look forward and not backward. He just needs to make a damned decision already! If this is a example of how this guy governs then we are in for a very long four years. The first 100 days don't look very promising - it is far worse than I ever imagined.

Is Obama EVER going to be definitive about where he stands on the prosecution of Bush Administration officials in regards to this issue? He looks like an abject amateur every single day. It is like he has no executive experience at all...

I would swear that he is checking in with the liberal blogs to see what he should be doing on a daily basis and that is how he forms his policies. If the criticism is minor he backs off on the campaign-style rhetoric but when the furor and outrage comes from all the leftists out there Obama raises the possibility again today of potential prosecutions but then says he is "concerned about this getting so politicized" when he is probably more responsible than anybody for making it so. And then he still has the unmitigated gall when he constantly says he prefers look forward and not backward. He just needs to make a damned decision already! If this is a example of how this guy governs then we are in for a very long four years. The first 100 days don't look very promising - it is far worse than I ever imagined.