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Bill Whittle: The Cost of Media Bias and The True Story of the Atom Bombs

I just watched my first Pajamas TV Afterburner videos by Bill Whittle, the brains behind Eject, Eject, Eject, and loved them.

First, I stumbled upon Whittle's April 22 video analysis of bias in the media that was quite interesting. Bill examines Susan Roesgen's "reporting" from the Chicago tea party, and Newsweek's Evan Thomas makes an appearance as well.

In the second video Whittle takes on Jon Stewart and his comments that Harry Truman was a war criminal for dropping atom bombs on Hiroshima (Sorry! I knew that, I swear, but I was a little punchy because I couldn't sleep) and Nagasaki. It's an amazing thing to behold. Bill uses the facts to slice and dice Stewart and his arguments with such mastery and ease that I would have to call it a work of art.

Check it out.


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I saw the take-down of Stew... (Below threshold)
marc:

I saw the take-down of Stewart, unfortunately Stewart won't see it.

It's a shame that this vide... (Below threshold)
jdflorida:

It's a shame that this video will not be seen by more people, conservatives and liberals. What a tremendous presentation of background and historical facts.

Jon Stewart would respond with an ignorant reply that he's merely a comic. He used to be a comic and a good one. He's now just another uninformed, faux intellectual posing as an enlightened liberal spokesman. Phony to his core.

The piece on Truman was gre... (Below threshold)
mpw280:

The piece on Truman was great and I have sent it to a lot of people I know. Stewart is a moron which is shown in great detail with this video fisking of him.
mpw

WW2 is always interesting. ... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

WW2 is always interesting. The first bomb was definitely fair game. Then the USSR invaded the Sakhalin Islands (Japanese, destination Tokyo) so the second bomb could be argued to be a political act aimed at warning off Soviet expansion into Japan proper. I believe it was this imminent Soviet threat that finally doused the ardor of Imperial Japanese Army high command to hand back control of the privy council to the princes and thus allowed surrender to the less terrible foe, the USA, by a civilian government.

As for Whittle. I don't see where his (past?) reputation as some kind of final arbiter comes from. Wasn't he they guy who finally "solved" the problem of those pesky JFK assassination theories by siding with the Warren Commission?

His "review" of CPAC was anything but. "Marvelous Michelle, Wonderful Rush, The end."

It was "free", though.

John Stewart is just anothe... (Below threshold)
MPR:

John Stewart is just another liberal weenie with a platform from which he can pontificate. Like Obamalala he has probably never had to make a tough decision but, can 20/20 hindsight and second guess everyone else. Liberals love revisionism and the "coulda, woulda, shoulda," because after all they are so enlightened and smarter. The facts are always in the way, so they make up their own.

re #4, bryanD:Your... (Below threshold)
epador:

re #4, bryanD:

Your're gonna have to work a little harder to get your sit down routine humming before you can hit the big time.

I believe it was this im... (Below threshold)
iwogisdead:

I believe it was this imminent Soviet threat that finally doused the ardor of Imperial Japanese Army high command to hand back control of the privy council to the princes and thus allowed surrender to the less terrible foe, the USA, by a civilian government.

Stale, meaningless, liberal pablum. Do you have any thoughts of your own?

My father-in-law was on a s... (Below threshold)

My father-in-law was on a ship offshore preparing to take part in the invasion of Japan when the atomic bombs were dropped. It is VERY safe to say that I might not have my beautiful wife and wonderful boys had we NOT dropped those bombs (plural)...and my father-in-law would very likely not have survived the invasion!

Casualty estimates for American and Japanese military, and Japanese CIVILIANS absolutely dwarf the number killed by those two bombs...by an order of magnitude.

If you have never been to Okinawa then you have no idea how devastating the invasion would have been to the CIVILIANS...let alone the military!

For all his other faults, Truman made the right call. Both times.

I'm pretty sure that Okinaw... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

I'm pretty sure that Okinawa was skipped.
fwiw: Wiki has this...

"The atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuclear attacks near the end of World War II against the Empire of Japan by the United States at the executive order of U.S. President Harry S. Truman on August 6 and 9, 1945, respectively"

Bill has some great points but with those two idiots it's like shooting liberals over a baited field. Its productive in the sense that you thin the herd but there's always more to fill the void.

Stewart has a paid gig that isn't going anywhere until he becomes a bigger liability purporting to report the 'news' as he see's it.

Gmas, I meant the invasion ... (Below threshold)

Gmas, I meant the invasion of the homeland of Japan (which Okinawa was NOT considered) would have made the invasion of Okinawa look like a picnic in the park!

I was stationed on Okinawa for a year, and went to all the battlefields. I also went to "Suicide Cliffs".

The Japanese fought tenaciously for Okinawa...and would have 100 times as hard for Honshu, or any of the other "Home Islands"!

So much garbage from the li... (Below threshold)
Mycroft:

So much garbage from the liberals.

According to the detailed histories I have read, Tojo had convinced the cabinet that the US only had one bomb. It wasn't until the second bomb went off that the Emporer overruled the cabinet and told them to surrender.

Casualty estimates for the invasion of Japan? 1 million US soldiers. And on the other side, the entirety of the Japanese people.

So, liberal pundits, take that and compare to the results of the bombs.

re #4, bryanD:Your'r... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

re #4, bryanD:
Your're gonna have to work a little harder to get your sit down routine humming before you can hit the big time.
6. Posted by epador

You're the third person this weekend to intimate that my typing results contain some elements of style however misapplied.

My painting is comparable. I aim for Schiele and keep getting Modigliani.

The first bomb was... (Below threshold)
The first bomb was definitely fair game. Then the USSR invaded the Sakhalin Islands (Japanese, destination Tokyo) so the second bomb could be argued to be a political act aimed at warning off Soviet expansion into Japan proper.

And you'd have known that this assertion is one of the lefty myths Whittle refutes in the video, if you had bothered to actually watch it.

Wasn't [Whittle] they guy who finally "solved" the problem of those pesky JFK assassination theories by siding with the Warren Commission?

He did? I didn't know this, but if so, that's an added bonus in his favor. I'm going to have to see if I can find it. My guess is that Whittle probably embarrassed all the conspirazoid kooks using things like facts and evidence, which, understandably, they wouldn't be familiar with.

Gmac, thanks for the correc... (Below threshold)

Gmac, thanks for the correction. I know it's Hiroshima and Nagasaki but I was up because I couldn't sleep. My brain was a bit punchy.

bryanD - "Then the USSR... (Below threshold)
marc:

bryanD - "Then the USSR invaded the Sakhalin Islands (Japanese, destination Tokyo) so the second bomb could be argued to be a political act aimed at warning off Soviet expansion into Japan proper

Really? Funny thing though, the second bomb, "Fat Man," was dropped over Nagasaki on Aug 9th.

The Russkies didn't invade Sakhalin Island until August 11, 1945.

Looks like your "reputation as some kind of final arbiter comes from" your ASS and not a history book.

What we have here is the li... (Below threshold)
MPR:

What we have here is the liberals helping "Dear Leader" Obamalala. If, they can vilify leaders who had to make decisions that didn't fit their socialist, pacifist, anti-American view. They help him in his pathetic inability to lead. His first "100 Days" are a perfect example of his contempt for America's position in the world. A position that was paid for by the blood, sweat and tears of our father's, not his.

marc: [to bryanD] "Funny... (Below threshold)

marc: [to bryanD] "Funny thing though, the second bomb, "Fat Man," was dropped over Nagasaki on Aug 9th.

The Russkies didn't invade Sakhalin Island until August 11, 1945."

The Left has trouble with the whole "timeline thingee"...and if the tic marks don't quite line up, well, it's kinda like when President Roosevelt went on television in 1929 and calmed us down after the stock market crashed...

"My guess is that Whittle ... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

"My guess is that Whittle probably embarrassed all the conspirazoid kooks using things like facts and evidence, which, understandably, they wouldn't be familiar with."-OM

http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=opera&rls=en&q=THE%20MEN%20WHO%20KILLED%20THE%20PRESIDENT&sourceid=opera&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#
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"The Russkies didn't invade Sakhalin Island until August 11, 1945."-marc

My bust. The USSR declared war between the two A-bomb attacks. That led to the attempted coup by the hard-line generals in the royal court (no surrender line) which failed. Due to the invasion of Japanese Sakhalin by the USSR the moderate generals motivated surrender to the USA in order to concentrate on defending against the USSR. The USSR and Japan fought for weeks AFTER the surrender to the USA.

Thus, my thesis holds: fear of Communist USSR motivated surrender to the USA by Japan as guarantor of Yalta Agreement which put set limits to Soviet expansion viz. Japan. I.e. USA would defend its own interests by helping Japan vs USSR.

Casualty... (Below threshold)
Brett:


Casualty estimates for American and Japanese military, and Japanese CIVILIANS absolutely dwarf the number killed by those two bombs...by an order of magnitude.

If you have never been to Okinawa then you have no idea how devastating the invasion would have been to the CIVILIANS...let alone the military!

Of course. But you aren't arguing something that the liberal mind can grasp. I'm sure if you sat around with "liberal intelligentsia" in their Ivy-league debating class, they would first be unable to grasp the argument that ending the war with the least casualities possible was a valid goal. They don't, for example, accept the argument that frightening terrorists into telling you their plans, no matter how many lives it would save, is OK. And anyway, we deserved it for not respecting their "cultural diversity". The same stupid argument would apply here.

Same argument here. The "immorality" of using the atom bomb is absolute. Never mind that 5x as many people died in the Tokyo firebombings and that the people in the "devastated nuclear wasteland" now make minivans. Never mind that you would have had literally millions of civilian casualties instead of maybe 150,000 (outside estimate), and of course they don't give a d*mn about US casualties. They argue the same sort of moral absolutism, with no regard for the consequences, that that *accused* Fundamentalist Christians of. This is the group that appears and act as if the Constitution IS a suicide pact! Of course it's easy to argue that when you are sitting around in a library with a tweed jacket and patches on your arms, 12000 miles from the action.

Eventually, I am sure they would get around to the "fact" that, really, we didn't have any business getting involved in a war, there are always options you know, we were just unwilling to compromise with them, if we hadn't threatened them they wouldn't have been forced to attack. It's not our business if they rape China, take over the entire Pacific, and join up with the Germans. In fact, that WAS an argument made at the time, delaying our entry into the war and costing untold millions to die. Even that socialist fraud/liberal icon Roosevelt knew better than that, and he was (otherwise) a disgrace. And don't doubt that Roosevelt would have pushed the button on the Japanese just as quick as Truman.

So they have a closed system, arguing won't make any difference. Ironic for a bunch that claims to be "open-minded". They believe all points of view are valuable - unless of course they disagree with it, in which case it should be crushed, marginalized, and destroyed.

bryanDLet Me guess... (Below threshold)
914:

bryanD

Let Me guess, the big D stands for Dumbass?

You're not helping, 914.</p... (Below threshold)

You're not helping, 914.

though I bat bryanD around ... (Below threshold)

though I bat bryanD around a bit too, I would take him over Adrian Browne, for example, any day! :)

Kim,I truly unders... (Below threshold)
MichaelC:

Kim,

I truly understand why you would point that out to 914, but bD sure does make it hard not to knock some sense into him from time to time.

I understand, MichaelC. I h... (Below threshold)

I understand, MichaelC. I had to delete one of bryanD's comments because is was so out of line. We have several trolls here who love to take over comment threads and redirect everyone's attention to them. It's juvenile and narcissistic. It also doesn't help that other commenters feed their bizarre need for attention. It would simply be best if everyone ignored them so our blog can have comment threads that are informative and thought provoking.

I was stationed on Okinawa ... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

I was stationed on Okinawa for 3 years. The Suicide Cliffs still are emblazed in my memory.

Okinawa was one of the bloodiest battles of the war and mainland Japanese did not even think that the Okinawa were pure blood Japanese. There were 48K American military casualties, about 127,000 Japanese military causalities and anywhere between 100,000 to 142,000 Japanese Civilians as direct result of the battle. 90% of all buildings on the Island destroyed during the battle. . Japanese Soldiers told the civilians that American forces would rape and killed them (even though the Japanese were raping Okinawa women since they did not think of them as Japanese) They induce thousands to commit suicide. At the peace museum their painting of an all girls school where all the children took their lives rather than be captured. . Civilians' deaths would have been in the millions if the US did not drop the bombs on mainland Japan, for anyone to think otherwise they are delusional.
We saved more Japanese livesby dropping those bombs.

Hey bryan, that video absol... (Below threshold)

Hey bryan, that video absolutely *hilarious*. I kept hearing the "Looney Tunes" theme song playing while I was watching it.

fear of Communist ... (Below threshold)
fear of Communist USSR motivated surrender to the USA by Japan as guarantor of Yalta Agreement which put set limits to Soviet expansion viz. Japan. I.e. USA would defend its own interests by helping Japan vs USSR.

Actually, this is all bullshit, but thanks for playing.

Kim - "I understand, Mi... (Below threshold)
marc:

Kim - "I understand, MichaelC. I had to delete one of bryanD's comments because is was so out of line.

Soooooo, out of line he should've been banned for it. Others have been for much less.

...fear of Communi... (Below threshold)
...fear of Communist USSR motivated surrender to the USA by Japan

Really. Do you have any, you know, actual proof of this assertion, or are just pulling it out of your ass?




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