Past and future Democrat cabinet nominees hardest hit...
President Barack Obama proposed on Thursday nearly doubling funds to enforce U.S. tax laws next year, with an aim of more than quadrupling funding for tax compliance to $2.1 billion within five years.And you're laughing at Obama's much ballyhooed $8 billion in non-defense budget cuts to offset his $650 billion in new discretionary spending. Obama could do some serious taxing with that kind of scratch.The budget plan seeks $12.1 billion for the Internal Revenue Service, responsible for collecting and enforcing individual and corporate tax laws, for fiscal 2010, which begins October 1. That amounts to a roughly 5.2 percent increase over the IRS budget for 2009, which was $11.5 billion.
Underreporting of income by individuals and businesses led to a "tax gap" of $345 billion in 2001, the most recent year available, according to the government. Of that, corporate income tax and employment tax underreporting made up about $84 billion, according to a report by the Government Accountability Office.Which leave an extra $261 billion he'll be squeezing out of individuals. If there's one thing America needs in these trying economic times it's a hungrier, more aggressive IRS ensuring we render unto Black Caesar.
Comments (14)
Forgive me for asking but, ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by marc | May 7, 2009 8:33 PM | Score: 4 (10 votes cast)
Forgive me for asking but, wouldn't it be more cost effective if they started with the congress critters - and obama's cabinet - and worked they way out of D.C.?
1. Posted by marc | May 7, 2009 8:33 PM |
Score: 4 (10 votes cast)
Posted on May 7, 2009 20:33
2. Posted by Epador | May 7, 2009 8:54 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
He's gonna need that extra muscle if he's going to go after all his recalcitrant friends and enemies. SO why is this a surprise/
2. Posted by Epador | May 7, 2009 8:54 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on May 7, 2009 20:54
3. Posted by davidt | May 7, 2009 9:39 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Political enemies will be targeted as during the Clinton years.
3. Posted by davidt | May 7, 2009 9:39 PM |
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Posted on May 7, 2009 21:39
4. Posted by CDR M | May 7, 2009 10:01 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Does this mean he'll be going after Hollywood/Entertainer's and all of their big tax breaks?????
4. Posted by CDR M | May 7, 2009 10:01 PM |
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Posted on May 7, 2009 22:01
5. Posted by GarandFan | May 7, 2009 11:20 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Should be an easy job. Just get a list of all the contributors to the DNC and Obama. We'll be swimming in money then.
5. Posted by GarandFan | May 7, 2009 11:20 PM |
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Posted on May 7, 2009 23:20
6. Posted by Jake | May 7, 2009 11:38 PM | Score: -1 (7 votes cast)
Is there ANY chance that the Anti-Obama Crowd (AOC) will give more than 30 seconds to see how this plays out? It seems like every day there's another bit of the overall puzzle revealed about where all this is going, yet the AOC refuses to do anything other than look at the moment.
6. Posted by Jake | May 7, 2009 11:38 PM |
Score: -1 (7 votes cast)
Posted on May 7, 2009 23:38
7. Posted by cirby | May 8, 2009 12:06 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
"Is there ANY chance that the Anti-Obama Crowd (AOC) will give more than 30 seconds to see how this plays out?"
The thing is, it only takes about ten seconds to see how it's going to go. For example, an increase in tax enforcement budget means more people enforcing tax laws, which means more pressure on those folks to justify their paychecks.
This means they're going to end up stomping all over the easy tax cases ("sorry, Mr. Smith, but since you don't have a lawyer who can help you out, you can't deduct your mileage on your car, or the mortgage on your home office, you owe us a couple of thousand bucks") and taking a pass on the hard ones ("we'd like to go after these rich guys who deducted the rent on their mistresses' apartments, but they're all big Democrat campaign donors and have accounting firms to obscure their returns, so we're not going to do anything").
Something you obviously don't know is that a few years ago, the IRS took a softer line on enforcement, with the basic rule being "try to be nice to the taxpayers while getting money from them." It worked great, and tax receipts per capita rose dramatically while decreasing the number of people in enforcement.
The Obama folks basically want to reverse this policy.
7. Posted by cirby | May 8, 2009 12:06 AM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on May 8, 2009 00:06
8. Posted by Jake | May 8, 2009 12:10 AM | Score: -2 (8 votes cast)
Sorry, I don't think that 10 seconds is all it takes to understand the full picture. Something YOU obviously don't know (or aren't thinking about) is the combination this week of discussion of corporate tax haven enforcement + increase in IRS enforcement. I find it hard to believe the two aren't related.
But honestly, none of that matters, right? It's Obama so he can do no right, and if he does, he's still Obama, which makes him inherently wrong, right?
8. Posted by Jake | May 8, 2009 12:10 AM |
Score: -2 (8 votes cast)
Posted on May 8, 2009 00:10
9. Posted by marc | May 8, 2009 5:03 AM | Score: 4 (8 votes cast)
Jake - "But honestly, none of that matters, right? It's Obama so he can do no right, and if he does, he's still Obama, which makes him inherently wrong, right?
No, what it means is after watching barack hussein obama keep a tax cheat at Treasury, flip-flop on lobbyists in the admin, flip-flop and then flip again on the spanish inquisition of Bush officials, flip-flop on "no earmarks" and a long list of piss-poor vetting of people nominated for various position we are, lets say... suspicious.
9. Posted by marc | May 8, 2009 5:03 AM |
Score: 4 (8 votes cast)
Posted on May 8, 2009 05:03
10. Posted by Baron Von Ottomatic | May 8, 2009 7:43 AM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
Jake,
There's obviously no chance the On-Their-Knees-Fellating-Obama Crowd (OTKFOC) will ever be able to goof on their new Messiah. Or maybe you believe paying taxes is for corporations and people who work in the private sector rather than Democrats who work in the public sector and are chosen for an Obama cabinet post?
Lighten up, Francis.
10. Posted by Baron Von Ottomatic | May 8, 2009 7:43 AM |
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Posted on May 8, 2009 07:43
11. Posted by Oyster | May 8, 2009 8:05 AM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
If, for one moment, I thought that simplifying the tax code or increasing enforcement would eliminate the politicization of taxes I'd be all for it. But that's never going to happen. You know, I know it, everybody at some level knows it. Politicians will continue to amend the tax code to benefit their supporters and we'll be right back to square one in less than a decade.
Our tax code is written much like what is called "spaghetti code" in programming. Every rule has an effect on another rule which has an effect on another rule, etc. And if half a dozen IRS "experts" can't even do one person's taxes and come to the same number how can we expect they understand the tax code enough not to make it worse or end up with unintended consequences?
The tax code must be scrapped and completely rewritten or replaced with something else; be it the Flat tax, the Fair Tax or some other manner of taxation.
11. Posted by Oyster | May 8, 2009 8:05 AM |
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Posted on May 8, 2009 08:05
12. Posted by Jake | May 8, 2009 10:55 AM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
@Oyster - sing it, brother!
@Barron - Idiotic calls of Messiah aside, your Right wing brainwashing ish showing... that corporations should be allowed to run rampant, doing whatever they please because somehow that's the only way "free market" can work is ludicrous.
I believe we ALL should be doing our part to pay taxes. Corporations, small businesses, individuals, all of us. I also don't believe that tax havens and other questionable corporate behavior is acceptable. Personally, I have declined crazy antics in my own taxes when my CPA offers them. Even though they may be technically legal, I don't feel comfortable entering a gray area simply to save a few bucks. When corporations are entering that gray area (or perhaps blowing right past it), they're hurting all of us in the long run.
I know that free markets and zero taxes and zero government (and historical military power, over arching spying on citizens, and unfettered torture and disappearing programs) are hallmarks of the current GOP platform, but personally I'm fine with paying taxes, so long as they're fair, deliver positive services, and are applied equally (in principle, not in specifics) to individuals and corporations.
Call me a loony leftie (Willie, that's your queue!), call me a communist, whatever. I'm not, and it used to be that Republicans weren't trying to claim that unfettered free markets, void of any corporate checks and balances was a cornerstone of the party.
12. Posted by Jake | May 8, 2009 10:55 AM |
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Posted on May 8, 2009 10:55
13. Posted by hyperbolist | May 8, 2009 12:11 PM | Score: -2 (4 votes cast)
Oyster is a sister, Jake.
As someone who loves progressive taxation, I find it pretty amusing that most parts of the United States of Hating the Government have higher corporate tax rates than most provinces in Soviet Canuckistan. Doesn't really fit the caricature. How the hell did that happen?
13. Posted by hyperbolist | May 8, 2009 12:11 PM |
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Posted on May 8, 2009 12:11
14. Posted by Heralder | May 8, 2009 12:42 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
Hating the government and wanting a smaller one are two different things, Hyperbolist.
14. Posted by Heralder | May 8, 2009 12:42 PM |
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Posted on May 8, 2009 12:42