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North Korea Warns of Military Strike on S. Korea (Oh crap, elections really do matter)

Via AP:

North Korea warned South Korea and the United States on Wednesday that Seoul's participation in a U.S.-led program to intercept ships suspected of carrying weapons of mass destruction is equal to a declaration of war.

South Korea announced its participation in the U.S.-led program on Tuesday, one day after North Korea defiantly conducted a nuclear test, drawing international criticism.

The North's military said in a statement that it will respond with "immediate, strong military measures" against any attempt to stop and search North Korean ships under the Proliferation Security Initiative.


Testing, testing from Bookworm Room
"N. Korea says it is no longer bound to the armistice which ended the war and says the peninsula will soon be returned to the state of war."

Not quite 3 a.m. in the White House, but close enough, right? The only thing I know with pretty perfect certainty right now is that BHO has absolutely no idea what to do. Let's hope (a) his advisers have some plans and (b) he picks a good plan from the options presented to him.

When Obama is working to triple deficits and takeover the banks and the auto manufacturers, etc. is the time to hope he fails. When it comes to dealing with an international situation like the one we see today, is the time to hope he doesn't fail. To PRAY he doesn't fail. Let's hope the teleprompter is in good working order. And let's pray he doesn't really believe all that stuff he has said over the past couple of years about trying to reason with madmen.

Update: MUST READ from James Lewis at American Thinker:

Forget Obama's grabbing the banks and the car companies. Forget his eleven trillion dollars of new debt for the next generation. Forget his egomania. Eight years after the jihad assault of 9/11, 2001, on New York City and Washington, D.C., we are back to national life or death. Americans were suckered into believing that the world was suddenly a safe place, and elected a grossly unqualified Chicago pol to lead the nation, because he looked good on TV. That is a mistake we may come to bitterly regret.

Update II: Another MUST READ from Steve Schippert (above).


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Comments (12)

"N. Korea says it is no lon... (Below threshold)
Juan Long:

"N. Korea says it is no longer bound to the armistice which ended the war. Well, if you look back in History when has the United States monitor its peace treaties with any country. That is why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan. Especially with Afghanistan! The same thing happened with the wars between Mexico and Texas with the Treaty that lead to many Mexicans losing their lands and wealth to the whites. Lessons learned have not been used.

I believe that the United States needs to beef up the military and develop a new mechanism to deter the small countries from trying to create a Nuclear Weapons display of power, which indeed is old technology. The United States needs to present a more technical display of power. The UN is still trying to develop an iron curtain to those who will not follow world requirements when it comes to Nuclear Weapon hungry countries.

As for power of the new president, well we will need someone who is going to generate a fire ball to subdue the threat of small countries who want to dominate the world. Those who will not listen are a threat to life as we know it. I think someone needs to start kicking some ass, before it is too late. We have the technology, so let us use it, before we loss it.

Further, there is no more time to play games. We need to get our shit together, and start turning this country into the leader as it was before, but with technology.

North Korea agreed to an ex... (Below threshold)
Paul Hooson:

North Korea agreed to an exchange with the Bush Administration to accept food aid, reduced trade sanctions and being removed from a list of states that support terrorism in exchange for decommissioning and destroying their nuclear reactors. Now they're breaking this deal with the previous administration in hopes of striking a better deal with the Obama Administration by acting threatening once again. It's typical North Korean nonsense attempting wring out more from a new administration. Likely, the U.S., South Korea, Japan and China will offer North Korea more food aid, and they'll begin to behave somewhat better until they want more from these nations.

So now we see if Obama is c... (Below threshold)
Boxi:

So now we see if Obama is commander in chief or just a mouth. If ever a pre emptive strike was needed, now is the time. We need to stifle this liberal need to appear politically correct and take charge of our own destiny once again. I am too old to learn chinese, russian much less korean. I really don't care what world opinion of the US is as long as it's citizens are safe. Better to die on your feet than spend a lifetime on your knees.
Time to remove the condom and go for it.

The American electorate pro... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

The American electorate proved in 2006 and 2008 that it has no stomach for a war of more than a few months in duration. Given the state of our economy and new deficit spending Obama has no choice but to avoid war at any costs short of a sneak attack on the U.S. or one of our allies.

I doubt the dingbats in NK understand the concept of a limited war, so should they provoke a U.S. attack on their soil it will be all out war. The differences this time from 1953 is that Obama will be inviting China to take over NK once we pull it's teeth and cut off it's claws.

"North Korea Warns of Mi... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

"North Korea Warns of Military Strike on S. Korea"

That's called "Change you can believe in".

President Bush made a lot of changes for the better, but people didn't believe in (or weren't even aware of) them. Obama's changes will be so devistating that even the information retarded public will be able to believe in them. Well at least those that survive the next few years will...

Over-reaction to this is ex... (Below threshold)
Rob:

Over-reaction to this is exactly what North Korea wants.

Leave these idiots to their own devices and they will eventually blow themselves up.

there should be no changes in policy towards them.

Ignore NK - they are like a... (Below threshold)
Stop interventionism:

Ignore NK - they are like a 3 year old, throwing a tantrum to get what they want. If
you reward that kind of behavior by giving in,
you simply reinforce that behavior and insure that it will be used again in the future. IMO,
don't reward OR threaten NK. Instead, IGNORE the tantrums and usual asortment of oer-the-top threats and rhetoric this wacky, impoverished and isolated little hermit of a country is so
well known for.

The nuclear genie has been out of the bottle for half a century now - it's old hat and no secret anymore. Nuclear weapons are also completely and utterly useless against non-state
actors and terrorists. And don't forget who NK oldest ally is - our biggest creditor, China, who could sink us in our present condition, without firing a shot, just by dumping it's dollars and refusing to lend us any more.

It's not our fight, and I think it's high time to pull our troops out of most of the 155 or so countries they presently have bases in - our presence in most of these countries doesn't make us safer nor defends American intersts, but probably serves as an irritant increasing the already large amount of anti-American sentiment throughout so much of the world today.

Empire is expensive, and we simply can't afford it any more, let alone continue to involve ourselves in foreign conflicts that don't directly threaten American interests

It's not our fight, and ... (Below threshold)
Paul_In_Houston:

It's not our fight, and I think it's high time to pull our troops out of most of the 155 or so countries they presently have bases in - our presence in most of these countries doesn't make us safer nor defends American intersts, but probably serves as an irritant increasing the already large amount of anti-American sentiment throughout so much of the world today.

Empire is expensive, and we simply can't afford it any more, let alone continue to involve ourselves in foreign conflicts that don't directly threaten American interests
.

I wrote and posted the following just after Obama was elected. I see nothing in it that needs changing...

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On Election Day, the Ace of Spades website posted a picture of two Iraqi women, with purple-stained fingers showing they had voted in an election.

It was a "Get Out The Vote" message, noting that whatever inconveniences YOU may experience by voting, "These women literally risked their lives to vote".

My first reaction was, "And THE ONE can hardly wait to sell them out".

Obama's rhetoric on Iraq, and comments about Israel, showed a casual willingness to sell out allies when convenient.

A commenter asked, "Who appointed us to be their guardians? Why is it America's job to make sure they are safe?"

Perhaps we'd rather not have the entire world as a nuclear-armed camp, figuring that the more countries with these things, the more risk that some will eventually be used.

Our alliances with these countries ain't out of the goodness of our heart, but for our own best interests. Sell one out, and I'll bet you the others will sure take notice.

The commenter seemed to be saying, "To hell with them; let them take care of themselves!"

Ok! But, they might do exactly that, and we might be less than thrilled with the results.

If countries under threat (Taiwan, South Korea, Japan) think that our word is no longer any good, they'll almost certainly feel the need for nuclear arms as the only real deterrent to someone like China. And note, those countries ALL have the necessary economic, industrial and technical wherewithal to go nuclear. All they need do is make the decision.

Others, in the Middle East, will want them to deter Iran. How about Saudi Arabia and Egypt? Maybe Libya decides that abandoning their efforts was a mistake. THOSE countries may lack the technology, but they can certainly afford to finance it.

It could just go on and on.

THAT could be a very likely consequence of us deciding to just disengage ourselves from these countries.

We've tried, for a long time, to convince others that they didn't need them, because WE would provide the nuclear umbrella.

When they figure they can't count on us, the whole thing unravels.

If the commenter gets his wish, and they DO take care of themselves, it could get real interesting for us as well.

As we also reside on the same planet, I think it almost impossible we would remain unaffected.

So, standing up for our allies is not just a nice thing to do; it makes the hardest kind of common sense.

Simply put, we protect others in order to protect ourselves.

Abandoning them, selling them out, would be an unbelievably short-sighted (as in STUPID) thing to do, and would hurt us more in the long run. No one would trust an agreement with us; and why should they, given such a record?

Instead of being worth a damn, our word would only be noise.

And that would be tragic, because WE set its' value, by our actions.
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I still stand by that.

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Empire is expensive, and... (Below threshold)
Paul_In_Houston:

Empire is expensive, and we simply can't afford it any more, let alone continue to involve ourselves in foreign conflicts that don't directly threaten American interests

That should have been italicized in my comment above; it was part of what I was responding to and in no way do I agree with it.

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Lets hope it doesn't happen... (Below threshold)
G.:

Lets hope it doesn't happen. There are approximately 20,000 +(Closer to 30K) service members in South Korea. U.S. Eighth Army, Seventh Air Force and U.S. Naval Forces Korea are stationed in South Korea.

Perhaps we can remind him of Saddam Hussein,Muammar al-Qaddafi,and Manuel Noriega,just short of his bedtime with Muammar's phone # in case he would like to check it out.

Unfortunately Obama doesn't have the balls.

Paul_In_Houston -I... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Paul_In_Houston -

It was already established in '75 that our word was worthless, a Democratic President and Congress cut off promised support to Viet Nam and left that country to fall.

Reagan and Bush and Bush went a long way towards re-establishing that our word was our bond. Clinton didn't bung things up too badly - his letting the military do what was right in Kosovo perpetuated the idea that America would stand by its allies.

Now it remains to be seen if Obama will do what's right, and establish that America's commitment to its allies is solid.

I'm HOPING he'll do so. But I think a CHANGE is coming in that direction... and not a good one.

If not for the idiot who wr... (Below threshold)
Mav:

If not for the idiot who wrecked us for 8 years, we would be more than ready to respond now. Electing moron Republicans had far more bad consequences than we could ever imagine.




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