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Democrats Unnerved By Briefing On EIT

The Hill is reporting that Democrats are outraged that Republicans are discussing the details of a behind closed doors briefing on the effectiveness of enhanced interrogation techniques held Thursday.

Republicans ignited a firestorm of controversy on Thursday by revealing some of what they had been told at a closed-door Intelligence Committee hearing on the interrogation of terrorism suspects.

Democrats immediately blasted the GOP lawmakers for publicly discussing classified information, while Republicans said Democrats are trying to hide the truth that enhanced interrogation of detainees is effective.

Assuming the role of Casablanca's Captain Renault, Democrats are shocked at the Republican disclosures. However, Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) quickly got to the heart of the matter:

Despite the weeks-long furor over how the CIA came to use enhanced interrogation techniques, and what members of Congress were told about their development and implementation, the committee's first hearing on the issue during the 111th Congress almost came and went without notice. The hearing was announced publicly but was not open to the public. According to Republicans, that was by design. "Democrats weren't sure what they were going to get," said Rep. Pete Hoekstra (Mich.), ranking Republican on the Intelligence panel, referring to information on the merits of enhanced interrogation techniques. "Now that they know what they've got, they don't want to talk about it"

Speaker Pelosi had to leave the country and go to China to get away from the heat brought down on her by a CIA and former Vice President determined to respond to her obtuse remarks. As one pundit has noted, watch the goalposts move. Here's another indication that Obama and Pelosi have hurt themselves on this issue.

Update: It gets better. Republicans are daring the Democrats to prove that sensitive information was leaked:

House Republicans on Friday reacted to Democratic claims that they leaked sensitive information from a closed Intelligence Committee hearing by using the same line of attack they've deployed on Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.): Prove it. "First you have Speaker Pelosi accusing the CIA of misleading Congress all the time without providing any proof. Now other Democrats are following her lead and making equally false claims without any proof," Jamal Ware, spokesman for House Intelligence Committee Republicans, said on Friday. "If they believe the classified substance of the meeting was revealed, they should prove it."

My only complaint is why didn't the GOP fight like this before?


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Let's get the Dems a bunch ... (Below threshold)
Stan25:

Let's get the Dems a bunch of backhoes. That way they can the hole that they are in deeper a lot faster.

Anyone else STILL waiting o... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Anyone else STILL waiting on History-will-judge-George-W-Bush-Kindly prediction to kick in? No? Sure? I didn't think so.

We can safely put that crazy notion to rest once and for all now.

Thanks!

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My only complaint ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
My only complaint is why didn't the GOP fight like this before?

Because until Cheney's successful counterattack on the Democrats the Republicans in congress thought it better to lay low. Either that or they were giving the Democrats enough rope to hang themselves.

The pressure keeps building to release the memos Cheney has asked for. If Cheney is right about what they contain then the longer Obama stalls the greater the damage is going to be once they are released.

Boy, this is kind of sad th... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Boy, this is kind of sad that these reports hadn't made it to the National Archives yet then the Democrats could have put a call into Sandy Berger. Plus, I thought the New York Times was the only party that could publish otherwise classified information.

Anyone else STILL ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Anyone else STILL waiting on History-will-judge-George-W-Bush-Kindly prediction to kick in? No? Sure? I didn't think so.

We can safely put that crazy notion to rest once and for all now.

No doubt you're in a big hurry to decide how History will judge Bush. Thing is, by the time that judgment is made it will be by people unaffected by BDS and they'll know how well or how bad the Obama administration handled the war or terror and the economy. Bush could come out way ahead of Obama.

Mr.Browne, If you're... (Below threshold)

Mr.Browne,
If you're so desirous of being disemvoweled
I'm more than glad to help you out.
Otherwise you're not funny, bright,
or original.

Hey, Libs: Reality bites, d... (Below threshold)

Hey, Libs: Reality bites, doesn't it? Welcome to our world.

AB normal, Just on the face... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

AB normal, Just on the face of, chances are Bush, who believed in America is sure to be judged far more kindly by history to the level of being one of our better Presidents as opposed to either the men who served before or after. Obama thinks America needs to be transformed (into what?) and does not realize 160 million armed citizens will soon tire of his bullshit.

"Why didn't the Republicans... (Below threshold)
kathie:

"Why didn't the Republicans fight like this before?" Think about all the lies the Dems have contrived. Every single one of them involved Top Secret information. For Bush to fight, it needed to be declassified (like Obama just did). I think Rockefeller who sat on the intel committee, leaked all the information from the intercepts, the FISA program, to EIT's, to Valery Plame, and the rest knowing that Bush couldn't fight it, because he would never declassify information that would hurt the country or the CIA.

As Bush said, he didn't sell his soul, his conscience is clear, and protection the country was his highest priority. One of the good guys.

Zelsdorf -"Obam... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Zelsdorf -

"Obama thinks America needs to be transformed (into what?) and does not realize 160 million armed citizens will soon tire of his bullshit."

We won't need an armed rebellion. All we'll need are elections in 2010 and 2012.

Admittedly ancedotal - but so far I've seen two very pre-election partisan Democrats changing their minds, because they think that the post-election Democratic politicians have lost theirs. One was hot on economic issues, about how Bush was wasting money, and has SHE ever changed her tune. I told her to watch hw the Democrats spent money once they had control - it'd make Bush look like a miser.

A couple of trillion later, she's agreeing with me.

The other one was hot into identity politics, buying into the 'healing of racism' that electing Obama would signify.

He's been sorely disappointed also, there's a LOT more attention paid to race than before, and it's all by Democrats.

They've had the rug pulled from under their belief system, it hurts, and they're pissed. And it's nowhere near over.

They've had the ru... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:
They've had the rug pulled from under their belief system, it hurts, and they're pissed. And it's nowhere near over.

And yet, we still have another 3 years and change to endure. Ugh.

This is how you fight to wi... (Below threshold)
Rick13:

This is how you fight to win against the liberals.

Admittedly ancedotal - b... (Below threshold)
cirby:

Admittedly ancedotal - but so far I've seen two very pre-election partisan Democrats changing their minds, because they think that the post-election Democratic politicians have lost theirs.

Oh, yeah, they're dropping like flies. One guy I work with has gone from "I'm so happy Obama got elected so he can fix Bush's mistakes" to "holy crap, you weren't kidding when you said Obama was going to be worse!" He's already looking for a way to pretend he didn't back Obama as strongly as he did (no, he's not going to be able to get away with it - he was waaaay too smug after the election).

Oh, yeah - a simple way to ... (Below threshold)
cirby:

Oh, yeah - a simple way to keep score: count the number of Priuses with scraped-off bumper stickers. Odds are they used to have Obama stickers on 'em...

"Why didn't the Re... (Below threshold)
Anon Y. Mous:
"Why didn't the Republicans fight like this before?" Think about all the lies the Dems have contrived. Every single one of them involved Top Secret information. For Bush to fight, it needed to be declassified (like Obama just did). I think Rockefeller who sat on the intel committee, leaked all the information from the intercepts, the FISA program, to EIT's, to Valery Plame, and the rest knowing that Bush couldn't fight it, because he would never declassify information that would hurt the country or the CIA.

I suspect there is another level to what Cheney is doing with the memos. First, he knows Obama won't release the memos because he knows they will prove Cheney's point, but secondly, I speculate, the memos actually do contain material that requires that they remain classified, so Obama can't release them without damaging national security (and thus hurting himself even worse politically). I bet Cheney is laughing his ass off over that, even if he has to keep it too himself.

As, barely a hundred days i... (Below threshold)

As, barely a hundred days into his lots of brownshirts', 55 million morons', lots of criminal aliens' and felons' and corpses', some of his fellow fascists', academia's and the NEA's and ABA's pseudo and crypto-fascists -- and the lock-stepping Goebbelsesque propagandists and pamphleteers of the DNC-controlled media-supported "administration," Zero's Rassmussen Tracking Poll reaches Zero!

( http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll )

Three cheers!

And as his "popularity" continues to plunge into the depths of Hell -- of which, for all the admissible evidence to the contrary, he may well be a natural born citizen -- and Nazi Pelosi's corrupt congress's numbers also slide into the sewer -- it's not so much any longer that we need cheering up as we will need to prepare to protect ourselves against whatever this sail-eared simpleton and these dangerous dullards will be up to, once they realize that 2010 will see the Republicans back in control of the Reps. And that in 2012 President Palin and Vice President Petraeus will be elected to put a president back in our worker's quarters at 1600 Pennsylvania.

Brian Richard Allen
Los Angeles Califobambicated 90028
And the Far Abroad

This is reminiscent of the ... (Below threshold)

This is reminiscent of the Jamie Gorelick "Wall" episode during the 9/11 hearings. She sat there not saying a WORD about the fact that she built the "Wall" that kept our intelligence agencies blinded...and NOT recusing herself!!

Then, when Ashcroft declassified a four-page directive sent by her that SHOWED her to be the culprit, the media attacked HIM for declassifying it...and not HER for covering it up!!

Truth...the antidote for Democrats!!

So when Republicans disclos... (Below threshold)
JC Hammer:

So when Republicans disclose classified information to the media...it's for the good of the country. If anyone else but them does it...they're traitors.

Jamal Ware, spokesman for H... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

Jamal Ware, spokesman for House Intelligence Committee Republicans, said on Friday. "If they believe the classified substance of the meeting was revealed, they should prove it."

JC Hammer "So when Republicans disclose classified information to the media..."


Ok JC, you going to prove your statement? Or are you going to just stand there quietly, all Pelosi-like?


JC Hammer: "So when Repu... (Below threshold)

JC Hammer: "So when Republicans disclose classified information to the media...it's for the good of the country. If anyone else but them does it...they're traitors."

In movie terms, the Democrats ran "Gone With the Wind" all the way up to 30 seconds before Rhett Butler leaves Scarlett O'Hara. And then they said: "We can't disclose anymore". The Republicans ran the last 5 minutes of the movie and you're OUTRAGED!!!

The Democrats and their buddies at the NY Times, have been disclosing ACTUAL secrets for years! The Republicans are only disclosing the FACT that Bush and his team WERE successful in keeping us safe!!

#10 JLawsonExcelle... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

#10 JLawson

Excellent post. Here's hoping that there is far more discontent with Obama's actions brewing beneath the surface than the media driven polls indicate. It seems that one would have to be brain dead not to recognize what is happening.

Damn, I want some of what B... (Below threshold)
max:

Damn, I want some of what Brian Richard Allen is smoking.

Cheney and Bush are liars..... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Cheney and Bush are liars... so say democrats, but when you compare them with democrats Cheney and Bush are towers of integrity. The problem for democrats is that they didn't expect their faith that EIT's never worked would be challenged. Now that it has been, their instinct is to cover up the truth. This is the same bunch of idiots who wanted truth commissions.

Reminds me of the COPS episode where the guy gives the cops permission to search his car saying no problem search it, I have nothing to hide. Locked in the back of the patrol car he starts freaking out when the cops start finding all the drugs in his car. He's yelling so loud the cops can hear him outside and a car length away. The democrats' faux outrage is the same thing.

I remember that episode. F... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

I remember that episode. Funny episode.

So... what can the Dems tak... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

So... what can the Dems take away from this? Don't play poker with someone that has nothing to lose, and all the facts on his side.

The President releases clas... (Below threshold)
kathie:

The President releases classified papers, congress leaks classified information to The New York times.

JC, your argument is weak!.... (Below threshold)
Ran:

JC, your argument is weak!.. *changing JC's name to "JC rubber mallet"

This is reminiscen... (Below threshold)
This is reminiscent of the Jamie Gorelick "Wall" episode during the 9/11 hearings. She sat there not saying a WORD about the fact that she built the "Wall" that kept our intelligence agencies blinded...and NOT recusing herself!!

Yeah, I never could figure out how Gorelick managed to get selected for the 9/11 commission. Because of her involvement with anti-terrorism policy during the Clinton administration, she should have been called as a witness and thoroughly questioned about what she did and why she did it.

Like Condoleezza Rice was.

Well, then lets see the dam... (Below threshold)
914:

Well, then lets see the damn info and if your right JC you can bitch and moan about the damage to the country? Not that you dont do this already..

JLawson.I am not sug... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

JLawson.
I am not suggesting armed rebellion, but it is nice to have th option if nothing else works. This administration is well thought out. I do not know what their plans are, but if they have to stand for another election and they will, I believe ACORN will have something to do with cheating us out of an honest election. All I am saying is they do not act like what we want makes a damn bit of difference.

The problem for our cogniti... (Below threshold)
Occam's Beard:

The problem for our cognitively challenged leftist friends is the Democrats/NYT disclosed previously unknown information, information that aided the enemy (by revealing that we were tracking their cell phone communications).

The Republicans here are not disclosing anything of use to the enemy, who already (thanks to the Dems) knew all about EIT. Furthermore, the Dems had made an issue of the ineffectiveness of EIT, so it is fair to rebut their allegations with the truth - they worked.

I have several friends who ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

I have several friends who voted for Obama who have stated taht the main reason for doing so is to vote against McCain and Palin. Though I suspect this is only partially true all of them are stating that they just didnt realize just how bad Obama was going to be be.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft III: "... (Below threshold)

Zelsdorf Ragshaft III: "I am not suggesting armed rebellion..."

Damn. Why not? :)

At least keep your options open...and your powder dry!!

Zelsdorf -"All ... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Zelsdorf -

"All I am saying is they do not act like what we want makes a damn bit of difference."

Of course it doesn't. You see that with the Dem environuts who think windpower will supply enough energy to keep the US going - despite that there's pretty much no way we could build enough windmills to be practical, OTHER green groups would fight the possibility of it tooth and nail. You saw that with solar in CA - it's supposed to save the US - and Feinstein stops it because all that shade from the tracking mirrors might change desert microcimates!

What's important to them are the feelings they're getting from 'doing the right thing' - whether it's the right thing to keep the country going or not. They'll gleefully shove the whole country over an economic cliff if they think it's the 'right thing' to do - and then be amazed that it all falls apart on them.

The problem hits when "NO!" is the only answer they've got for any solution. Oil prices rise? "We can't drill! It won't make a difference short term!" Well, what about long term? We can't do solar, we can't do wind, tidal is bad for fish, we can't drill for oil, we can't burn natural gas, coal is right out - and they have convulsions when you mention nuclear power.

We've got to have SOMETHING to run the country on!

But you can damn well bet that Pelosi and company, and all those wonderful folks in Congress who are busy deciding what we CAN and CAN'T do aren't going to be inconvenienced one bit by gas going up to $5 or $10 a gallon. They'll probably be glad to see it because (a) THEY can afford it (with US paying) and (b) it empties the roads out so there's no traffic. So what if food prices rise? So what if the economy falters?

They're doing the "right things"! Be glad they're in a position to force them on you!

In 2010, 2012, forget the hype. Forget the rhetoric. Forget all the promises they're going to make. Forget what they SAY they're going to do. EXAMINE THEIR DAMN RECORDS WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB, AND VOTE ACCORDINGLY!

JLawson, I think what they ... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

JLawson, I think what they want is for all of us to live on less. That is except for the swells, who get the cream. For some stupid reason, the liberal leftists and their environmental allies feel group guilt for what America uses in the way of resources. Has a lot to do with communists in our institutions of higer (on dope) education. You get to see that thinking in our elected leader who blames the nation who elected him, like he is the answer to the worlds problems. In a way that is true. As soon as we get rid of the Kenyan SOB, the world will be a better place. I think we should reserve a room for the treasonous bastard (literally) in Marion, Indiana.

Actually, it would take lib... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Actually, it would take liberals years to teach us how to be disloyal to our country. It comes second nature to them. ww

JC Hammerhead"So w... (Below threshold)
retired military:

JC Hammerhead

"So when Republicans disclose classified information to the media...it's for the good of the country. If anyone else but them does it...they're traitors."

Umm Since Rumsfield declassified it then it is no longer classified.

Sorta like when Obama declassified the EIT memos.

The NY Times prints information that is still classified.

What isnt classified and what is known by all is that you are an idiot.




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