Obama is, like, waaaaay concerned now. What IS your problem???

He gets it! People are concerned about the Armanians, or the Urbanites...or what, like, whatever. Geez...let the man eat his waffle in peace, ok?

If he had made strong statements and mobilized the Persian Gulf Fleet with all our Air Craft carriers heading there do you think it would have saved this girl or any of the other folks killed?

I don't think this will come to an end any time soon.

That is actually hopeful.

What gives me hope for this situation is that the horror stories turning up do NOT seem to end with the protesters running for their lives and giving up completely. The casualties appear to stem from them continuing their resistance.

The first time a policeman raised his riot stick and stalked towards a protester, expecting him to run as usual, but the protester just stood there and looked back at him, and it was the policeman that backed down and walked away, was probably the start of a fire that has taken on a life of its' own.

The biggest problem with being an oppressor depending on fear, is "GOD HELP YOU" if they ever STOP being afraid of you.

Yeah, the security forces are reacting, but it's damned hard to stuff the djinni back into the bottle; ain't it?

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He sided with the mullahs. Now that that he sees the wind is not blowing in his favor he must mitigate his original position. Sad and pathetic.

I guess Obama finally figured out what John McCain would have done.

Roald Reagens legacy: "Tear down this wall!"

Barack Obama's legacy: "Present!"

With a recent polls suggesting Americans want a tougher response to the violence in Iran, The "Anointed One" was heard telling the Leaders of Iran that they had better stop or he is going to be really, really mad... He may even write a letter...

What do you think about what Henry Kisenger said.

Kissinger is a senile old coot who has lost track of the honorable public positions that righteous nations take to let unrighteous nations know that a reckoning will one day come.

All the nations on this planet should stand up and "meddle" in Iran's affairs by condemning their brutality and their fraudalent election.

Some of you people are so stupid. The Mullahs would LOVE the US to become more involved, then they could retain their power by uniting the country against a common enemy ... some of you are SO dense!

Besides are you advocating we send in troops or ground forces.. have air strikes blow up police stations? Even stronger statements by the US would be welcomed by those in power. Democracy must be earned and Iran is earning it.

Why is when lefties pop onto the board to berate us for our neverending stupidity, they start imagining horrible scenarios that we must really want to have happening when no one here has said or even thought anything of the sort.

American Presidents have rarely been as timid as the Milquetoast in Chief currently hiding in the Oval Office and have not shrunk from making carefully constructed statements of support in situations that demanded it. A young Iranian man participating in the protests in the past week was asked if he thought President Obama should make any statement given the mullahs propensity for blaming all unrest on outside agitators and the young man replied, "Why do you think we are holding up so many signs in English?".

I was surprised at one sign that said "down with england". What the hell did that mean?

"What the hell did that mean?"
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Just what it meant. Counter protester out there parroting the party line.

We all know that if the Mullahs get kicked to the curb or horsewhipped for their transgressions. Obama will immediately try to take credit for it, even though He supports their thuggish apparatus of control thru cruelty.

Remember that joke ad with Paris Hilton running for President? It looks like the joke is on us, because that's who we elected.

#10 moja, I advocate dropping weapons and medical supplies to the civilians who are protesting.
It's sickening watching unarmed folks getting shot and brutalized by the government.

I also advocate sending in Special Forces A teams to organize an armed resistance. That is what Special Forces were created for originally, to work with indigenous peoples against oppressors.

Let armed Iranian civilians take on their own attacking government and see how the populace doesn't unite against the government's enemy.

Remember back during the revolution the Ayatollahs sent "students" into the U.S. Embassy to take hostages and said they couldn't do squat to control the "students"?

Well turnabout is fair play says I.

Obama, "man of the people", is more concerned with the Iranian REGIME than he is with the Iranian PEOPLE.

He's afraid that a new Iranian government would complicate his grand schemes of dealing with ImmaDinnerJacket...and doing something or other.

more ice cream!!

Petrified man-child Obama, cannot pronounce the word freedom, votes present.

bill-tb: "Petrified man-child Obama, cannot pronounce the word freedom, votes present."

sure he can, bill-tb, it's just that he pronounces it:
"FIEFDOM"

happy to help clear this up for ya! :)

It's far more important to do a photo op at an ice cream parlor, than to be concerned about innocent Iranians being gunned down by his freidns the mullahs.

I heard he had a hard time when asked "Sugar or Plain?".

BTW..the White House has one of the best staffed and best supplied kitchens in the world. Why did he have to organize a motorcade and go outside the WH for an ice cream cone?

"BTW..the White House has one of the best staffed and best supplied kitchens in the world. Why did he have to organize a motorcade and go outside the WH for an ice cream cone?" - Hermie

Aw! Hermie, how is The One going to project his super cool dude facade if you're going to go ask such logical questions? Ever heard of "Joe the Plumber"? Prepare for an anal exam by the Obamabots.

I'm certain that Obama feels great disgust and dismay, watching events unfold in Iran. Disgust for that damned 2nd amendment and dismay because it prevents thugs like him from enslaving Americans as easily as his people enslave Iranians.

How coward of Obama, not making a statement on Iran till yesterday afternoon. He claims no interfering however he can tell Israel to leave the settlements and us how bad it will be with out him, and apologies for America, but he doesn't have the coj... to promote freedom. I guess he is not for freedom! and he is afraid that something similar might happen here if we start protesting against his regime and he will not have face to make any statements.

Good thing our "Internet Security Czar" isn't in place yet.

Good thing the Mullahs in D.C. havent yet been able to shut down the internets free speech problem.. Yes Your so right ODA315. But Im sure they are burning the midnight oil to do just that.

Anyone here remember when democrats actually cared about human rights and democracy?

I guess things have changed lately -

LiberalNitemare: "Anyone here remember when democrats actually cared about human rights and democracy?"

Dimly.

One of the Conservative ladies on my website penned this yesterday...it says it all:
"Don't let anybody tell you that the Left is for human rights, freedom or women's rights. They are pathetic. They are morally banktupt. Proud to be a conservative."

Once again Kim's amazing analysis to the rescue!

"It's odd that the United States, which is usually the country that leads the rest of the world in the fight for freedom, is following everyone else."

It's so very hard for your ugly American mind to conceive that things might be better, not worse if we're not the first ones to the table, isn't it? It's ridiculous and arrogant to think that Americans and America has every answer, the best answer, and should always have the first answer.

"Patterico notes that while Iranians are getting shot, Obama was getting ice cream with his daughters."

This is what you're focusing on? That the President is multitasking? What were YOU doing today? Perhaps you're suggesting Obama should have parachuted into Iran personally, guns ablazin?

And I'm curious if you even recognize the hypocrisy of the conservative approach here that you're so upset about Iranian bloodshed while supporting it for years in Iraq? Oh, that's right - it was YOUR guy in power who started Iraq, but it's the guy that you believe has absolutely zero capability to do anything whatsoever correct during Iran. Gotcha.

It's irritating to watch The Right condemn Obama for not doing enough to stop violence while having made excuse after excuse after excuse about the massively more significant violence in Iraq being "all part of the plan".

Let's look again at your statement: "It's odd that the United States, which is usually the country that leads the rest of the world in the fight for freedom, is following everyone else."

I'm curious if you know where YouTube and Twitter were built and are maintained... considering, as you point out, they're the two major sources of information coming out of Iran right now.

Oh, and the State Department has talked to both services about how they're functioning regarding Iran. Oh, and Obama has encouraged Iranians to continue their struggle, continue to get information out without turning his own statements into a rallying cry for pro-governmental forces.

Gee, too bad Obama and team are just out for ice cream.

@RGR said: "How coward of Obama, not making a statement on Iran till yesterday afternoon"

This is absolutely 100% incorrect. He didn't make his first statement on Iran yesterday afternoon, he made ANOTHER statement on Iran yesterday afternoon.

I'm curious if you know where YouTube and Twitter were built and are maintained... considering, as you point out, they're the two major sources of information coming out of Iran right now.

Oh, and the State Department has talked to both services about how they're functioning regarding Iran.

A few days ago, I was delighted to see reports that our State Department requested Twitter to delay a planned outage so the protesters would not have their communications cut.

A commenter on the Strata-Sphere site pointed out that it was actually Jared Cohen, a Condoleezza Rice appointee in the department, who did this.

As he is NOT an Obama appointee, I sure hope he survives this act.

The story here:

saved-iran/#more-8849">The man who saved Iran

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Jake,
Given that it is in your mouth, what does the Presidents phallus taste like?

That's beyond disgusting, SM.

@SantaMaria - that's the best comeback you have? You have anything but anti-Obama sentiment?

Didn't think so.

@Paul_In_Houston Well, good deal then. Happy to hear that people on both sides of the aisle are working together to get things done. I'd hope that this employee doesn't get fired, although I seriously doubt he would be. After 8 years of White House politics like that though, I can certainly understand your fear.

Personally, I'd be quite upset if he did get canned. It was a smart and solid move, backed up by Sec. State Clinton publicly.

"We call on the Iranian government to stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people."

What violent and unjust actions? This is really vague. If we are going to label Obama's statement as "condemnation" we have to know exactly what he's condemning.

Obama has issued stronger statements of condemnation against the American government.

I'm not impressed. Sarkozy has really reinforced Obama's Steve Urkel image during this whole episode. We're weaker than France now.

http://www.rightklik.net/

Thank you, Jake.

I just noticed that the link I gave got screwed up somehow. I'll try again here...

The story here: The man who saved Iran.

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Let's look again at your statement: "It's odd that the United States, which is usually the country that leads the rest of the world in the fight for freedom, is following everyone else."

Now I kind of wish you would go back to your "what somebody else said" comments, Jake. I actually forgot how obtuse you sound when you bloviate your rude nonsense.

For decades the U.S. were thought of as the leaders of industry, as well as the economy all over the world. This is a given because we were. The industry was right here in your own backyard. Let's look again at your lack of reading comprehension. Kim was posing a thought out loud which is entirely valid.

Friggin Youtube was founded in 2005 in San Bruno, Ca. How can you be so obnoxiously stupid? Oh, it must be the aluminum in the chemtrails that don't exist and actually affect the brain's IQ level. Jeez, go back to cheering other idiot's comments.

Jake,, You are really weird?

914,

What I think is weird is that Jake points out a blatent lie posted by one of your commentors and you guys are trashing Jake, not the person who spread the lie. It shows you guys place more value on trashing Obama than the truth.

Jake, 33, re # 31: It looked my like it was Anti-Jake, not anti-Obama. After all, we learned a decade ago that it is OK for the occupant of the Oval Office to receive said treatment, didn't we? That you are offended on Obama's behalf is awkwardly funny in a sad, spousal abuse kind of way.

Also, comeback is probably not the optimal wording to use in this context.

Looked to me, that is, not looked my.

Obama's trying to walk a tightrope here. If the United States gets too loud, then the ghost of 1953 could bite us in the ass.

Tabby,
Could it be that people are mocking Jake beacuse he is Jake, and has a history of asshattery here?

Could what you call a lie also just be RGR (not a regular poster here, so I don't see people defending him/her out of reflex) being misinformed? Given the high chance that any new name around here is a Moby or a Sock, most of the regulars ignore stupid comments until they reach a critical mass or call a poster/commenter by name.

Of course France can be tough. They've been aiding andf abetting the mullahs all along and no one with any sense takes their strongly worded statements any more seriously than they do an episode of the Countdown. Regardless of what happens, France will be back doing business with the Mullahs or whoever takes their place.

Had Barack come out with a strongly worded statement and sent ships or some other asinine thing, the mullahs would have their ability to blame the U.S. for all of this. Just as they have been doing for the last 30 years! I'd have loved to see a line in the sand moment, but it would have done nothing other than make some of us feel good momentarily and would have damaged the Iranians immeasurably by giving the Mullahs what they needed to tie the protesters to the corrupt Great Satan.

I'm all for criticizing Obama and I think he will go down as one of the worst Presidents in history, but on this one, he took the right course. Remember how we would criticize those on the left for never giving Bush credit even when he did something that everyone agreed with? Don't fall into the same trap.

Sorry but I can't accept the excuse that Obamas nuanced lack of support is to avoid being blamed by the Mullahs.

They already tried that last week.

Besides, can an apologist for the US really promote values he does not believe in?

"Besides, can an apologist for the US really promote values he does not believe in?"

Whether you accept it or not, Hank, these types of apologists exist all around you. They 're called "Politicians". Points are points, whether you're red, blue, or any other color of the rainbow. You may want to review what Clinton and others were saying about Obama's stand on Iraq before he went campaigning for his current job he purchased.

#39 Tabitha Stevens

I did not trash Jake... I simply said He was weird.

Obama trashes Himself. We only help now and every other post again.

Thank You

I just can't get myself to back these people.They hate this country,they want a religious goverment and they were happy as a bunch of clams on Nov. 12.

And they are going to be scared and whiny as a the buncha mullahs they are come 2012.

They are digging pretty deep when they come up with this idea ...

Sidney Blumenthal, a top aide in the Clinton White House, may return to government work as a counselor to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Tabitha, thanks for the support. It's really quite simple here on Wizbang:

1. If you disagree with the exhalted bloggers, you're an idiot and deserve to be called an idiot.

2. If you disagree with any Republican talking point, despite agreeing with others, you're a fool and deserve to be called a fool.

3. Once you've solidified your status as anything other than a blind faith supporter of the Republican party by disagreeing with anything non-Right Wing, you will never be able to escape a tag of "asshat".

4. The bloggers on the site refuse to engage to work to keep things positive in the slightest.

In short, dissent is not welcomed, and therefore nor am I.

I remember once this used to be a good site for vigorous and mostly polite debate. Gone are those days.

OK, I'll wait for 914 to call me a name or LaMedusa to tell me I'm an idiot.

Jake,
There's no need you to wait after making such
accusations about the site, Wizbang.
And there's no need for the fake humility of
a poor sodden victim.
There is nothing keeping you here since you
allege the good old days are gone.

OK, I'll wait for 914 to call me a name or LaMedusa to tell me I'm an idiot.

Or, for gentleman Jake to lash out at a blogger with neat words like "Ugly American Mind". Yeah, the waiting's always the hardest part. I visit lefty blogs that offer was too much vitriol for my taste, and a moderate from time to time. I do see the down voting on my comments, Jake. You don't see political posts or other commenters here from the left? Where are you looking, at the side bar? It seems to me if you offer insults and pronouncement without factual accuracy, you're bound to appear somewhat uninformed.