Heh -

When you get down to brass tacks, liberals are pretty f*cking stupid. They don't understand their hatred for the things (and people) they don't understand will end up completely destroying their causes.

Sober up, middle America - you're lives are being destroyed. How's your Hope 'n' Change now, dumbasses?

Did I mention DJLiar is a coward as well as a liar?

Who's DJLiar? Rest assured, jmc, God may love you, but the rest of us think you're an asshole.

The Stimulus was never meant to improve the economy, only to grow government. If the President gave a damn about the economy, he could improve it through a simple announcement: So long as the country remains in recession, there will be (1) no Obama-care health reform, (2) no Cap-N-Trade legislation, and (3) no tax increases, including no repeal of the Bush tax cuts. (Courtesy of Bill Kristol.) With this information, potential investors would be much more likely to invest than they will be when faced with more government, more regulation and more taxes. Obama does not want quick economic recovery; more economic crisis means more public willingness to expand government, BHO's primary goal, motivating his every action.

Wouldn't work, Bob. Key phrase: as long as the economy remains in recession. You've just given the producers and the investors an incentive to keep the economy in recession. A better phrasing might be "no new spending until the economy can support it without going deeper into, or back into, recession."

Michael asked: How long before America understands that it is currently traveling backward with respect to economic progress, not forward?

How high can you count?

"How long before America understands that it is currently traveling backward with respect to economic progress, not forward?"

With the 2010 elections we will know whether America begins to understand. I know the turkey currently in residence at the White House will never get it either because he is incapable or just doesn't want to. All that matters really is that middle class America gets it. If they do, the Obama/Pelosi problem will be taken care of.

So long as the "turkey currently in residence at the White House" acts like his 53% of the vote in the last general election was 90%, he will continue to go his own way in leading this country to become a second rate power.

One key fact that morons on the Left miss (see jmc) is that money spent by the government is not equivalent to money spent by the people who earned it. To understand the difference, one must first understand that wealth is created not simply distributed and then understand how wealth is created.

The Social Security tax increase is not a bad idea, though I would slap on the taxes for incomes between $101,000 and $250,000. Why? Because Social Security stands a good chance of going broke in the long run, and I believe increasing the Soc. Security payroll tax could alleviate some of the fiscal strain. That, and jacking up the age when people can start to collect benefits.

Interesting nugget: Social Security was originally intended to allow a person to live the last 5-10 years or so of his life with dignity. But with life expectancies climbing, we are now in a situation where people can conceivably collect benefits for 20 years or more.

Nothing sobers the mind and focuses the attention of someone who loses their job or has to lay off a good employee. When people see their hard work and sacrifice circling the drain for Obamalala's "spread the wealth around" dream of a changed America, that will bring change. The only good thing is that Obamalala has screwed up so soon that enough people will be jolted to reality for the 2010 elections. Obamalala is going to Mich. today where unemployment is 14%. It is no wonder it won't be a town hall as planned but, a speech with no questions.

Oyster, you got it wrong. It's possible that God loves JMC and also considers him an asshole, like the rest of us ignorant peasants. I suspect he probably does.

The Social Security tax increase is not a bad idea, though I would slap on the taxes for incomes between $101,000 and $250,000. Why? Because Social Security stands a good chance of going broke in the long run, and I believe increasing the Soc. Security payroll tax could alleviate some of the fiscal strain. That, and jacking up the age when people can start to collect benefits.

What do you mean the Social Security is going broke? It has been broke since the Truman Administration, when the Congress made its first raid on it to cover their spending. It has just been a huge slush fund every since.

The Social Security system makes Bernie Madoff look like a piker. This is all just one vast ponzi scheme. Instead of millions and billions, the Social Security system has bilked the Americans, that have paid into over the years, trillions of dollars.

If someone comes along with proposals to change it to make it more fair, they scream bloody murder. Just look at the havoc that was raised when Bush proposed to privatize it. The Dems in Congress went totally ballistic along with the liberal groups like AARP and it never saw the light of day again. Barry won't do anything about it either.

And just like Europe the underground economy will grow and grow until it becomes an integral part of the countries economy and can't be taxed or surpressed without pols losing their jobs.

Social Security was originally intended to allow a person to live the last 5-10 years or so of his life with dignity.

Actually, that's not quite accurate. But James H, hit on the root problem with Social Security, average life expectancies have significantly increased and Social Security wasn't designed for that.

We all know that you can start collecting from Social Security at 65. When Social Security was created the average life expectancy of an American male was 58 and for 62 for an American female. Social Security was designed so that most Americans spent their working lives contributing into Social Security and then passing away before collecting on it.

Sure there were going to be exceptions, in 1940 only 6% of the population was over the age of 65. That left 94% of the population paying into Social Security to pay the 6% collecting.

But life expectancies have increased. In 2000, the average life expectancy for a female was 78 and 73 for a male. By 2000, 12% of population was over 65. The percentage of population over 65 will continue to grow as the baby boomers move into retirement age and life expectancies continue to increase even more.

Today, the average life expectancy for a woman is 81 and 75 for men. Instead of the average American dying BEFORE being eligible for Social Security, the average American will live more than a decade past retirement age. As more and more of the population moves into collecting Social Security, there is less and less of the remaining population paying into the system to support it.

"How long before America understands it is currently traveling backward with respect to economic progress, not forwards?"

America understands it... Now She just has to pull the handle and flush all the politicians out of our lives.

Steal someone's computer to pose, jmc? A thief as well as a scumbag - what a shock!

Why are You calling somebody a liar over and over jmc?

Unless the DJ You are referring to are the "Democrat Jackass'es" that lie to us continually day after day You are way off topic.

jmc, you have some real likeability issues. Maybe you'd find a friendlier audience somewhere bitchier, like Huffington or DU. Your towering intellect is probably wasted here anyway.

It seems that the only way to nonviolently save our country Is to deny tis government the tax revenue it needs to exist. Going Galt, underground economy are viable alternatives. We're headed to a major depression, so bartering is a good way to survive.

The primary purpose of these taxes is to punish the middle class and send them packing to the poor house. As soon as we have only the wealthy and the serfs, those occupying the poor houses will either be "processed" or pushed into hard labor. Even the "common good" is nowhere to be found under the crooked Fed/elite ruling class.

"Steal someone's computer to pose, jmc? A thief as well as a scumbag - what a shock!"

That's all he does is pose and call other people liars. It's what comes naturally, and pathetically.

"Your towering intellect is probably wasted here anyway."

His intellect is towering so far above, not even he can reach it. I wouldn't unleash him on huffpo. Maybe jmc should just go back to DU, Kos, and Salon. He would blend in beautifully there.

jmc,
If you think it's fun using ip addresses that
are not yours for the intent of harassment, and
spamming abuse, you're very wrong.
You are right now on the way to being reported
to every ip address you've already used after
being initially banned from Wizbang.
What ever it takes to get the message to you
you are no longer welcome at Wizbang until other wise notified.

"Otherwise Notified?" Maggie... you're too kind!..*S*

"If the Democrats succeed in stifling small business, leaving only their valued constituencies in Big Business, Big Labor, and Big Government largely in charge of planning our economy,"... Then the Democrats have eliminated their competitors.

Small business(and Democrat politics) is how Little People become Big People. Eliminate small business and the Big People are safe in their positions.

I have my "Galt's Gulch, Colorado" t-shirt. I plan to wear it to the polls in 2010.

Soak the rich demacrats like TED KENNEDY,AL GORE,ROBERT BYRD and many many more and yes soak rich hollywood demacratic supporters

They should pass a law that all congresscritters, cabinet members, the president and the vice president should have all income from whatever source taxed at the highest rate, with no deductions whatsoever. Let them actually feel what they are trying to do to the country. They should also be forbidden to get a paycheck for any days not actually spent in session or in the office. Thus, Congress would not get paid when on a junket, and the President would have to pay for every one of his trips himself.

President Obama proposed capping the amount of deductions for mortgage interest, investment expenses, and charitable contributions at 28%.

That is because the president has yet to actually give any charity, pay money for a mortgage, or be charged for any "investments" that he might make.

I forget to add something to my previous post. The Congress does not pay into Social Security, but yet they draw on it when they retire. Another thing that will help to save a few billion of the Social Security and in other programs, is take all of the illegal aliens off the roles and ship them back to their country of origin, namely Mexico and China.

Maggie

"What ever it takes to get the message to you
you are no longer welcome at Wizbang until other wise notified."

Cant you just make the ban permanent so he can go gaze at his toe pickings and leave us alone?

PLEASE.

I would be willing to send in a small (but not too small) donation to the site if that were to happen.

RM,
Considering jmc used several proxies to
re-access Wizbang after being sent to chill out,
it's probably a permanent chill out now.

Jmc R.I.P.I.