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Obama: Government Health Care will be like...the Post Office

Barack Obama says that we should not fear private insurance companies competing against the government because that's what Fed Ex and UPS do and they're getting along just fine. It's the Post Office that's always struggling, he tells us. And this is supposed to alleviate our concerns how, exactly?

Everyone knows that the United States Post Office is always in the red, so Obama telling government run health care skeptics to not worry, it will be like the Post Office is laughable. The Heritage Foundation lists a few pertinent questions that President Obama needs to answer, via Power Line:

1.) The U.S. Post Office is the only entity allowed by federal law to deliver first class mail to your mailbox. In fact, Fedex and UPS are strictly prohibited from delivering "non-urgent" letters. If the government can fairly compete and is setting fair rules, wouldn't the post office be open to competition at your mailbox?

2.) If Americans were offered "free" postage paid for by massive government spending and tax hikes, would Fedex and UPS still exist?

3.) The Post Office is on track to lose a staggering $7 billion this year alone. How will a government-run health care plan manage taxpayer resources more efficiently?

4.) Postmaster General John Potter says he lacks the "tools" necessary to run the Post Office effectively like a business. Would a government-run health care system have the tools it needs to run as effectively as the private sector entities it is replacing?

5.) On the one hand, the President remarks how great his public health care plan will be. On the other hand, he notes it won't be good enough to crowd out your private insurance, i.e. the Post Office comparison. So which is it Mr. President? Will it be so great that private insurance disappears or so awful that it isn't worth creating in the first place?

6.) But the most important question is this: if you have an urgent piece of mail you need delivered, life or death, who are you going to call? Everyone saying the government...please raise your hands. (crickets)

I call UPS or FedEx, just like everyone else.

Update: Jim Treacher has an updated version of the Marvellette's Wait a Minute, Mr. Postman that's worth stopping by and seeing.


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Comments (44)

Just another example of wha... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Just another example of what happens when The One stops using the prepared script on his teleprompter. The narcissist thinks he's so glib and smooth, then just like Biden, shoves his foot in his mouth. Axelrod was probably pulling his hair out. Can hear it now, "You %#[email protected] dumb shit! WHY mention the Post Office! Especially when you're trying to sell 'government efficiency'! You trying to kill us here?"

Would this be a good time t... (Below threshold)
Steve:

Would this be a good time to remind people how incredibly smart President Obama is? Probably the smartest President we've ever had...

I must admit though, when President Obama speaks about government ineptitude, I get a tingle running up my leg!

That ain't a tingle, it's a... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

That ain't a tingle, it's a short in your ObamaGov Medical Ankle Bracelet and Location Monitor. It's warning you that you haven't walked your five miles today, and thus when you sit down for dinner, it'll let you ingest only 300 calories before the 'Dietary Adjustment Enhancement" gives you a 20KV shock.

But don't worry, it's a very low amperage.... unless you've done something the government wouldn't like.

Obama opens mouth to cha... (Below threshold)

Obama opens mouth to change feet!

I was going to post this to... (Below threshold)
Lisa:

I was going to post this to my blog, too :) I couldn't believe I read that right! Did Obama REALLY say, in essence, that the universal healthcare program would be run like the Post Office?? Oh my, how stupid can this guy be?

Curiosity compels me: The ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Curiosity compels me: The MSM and Barry keep talking about "The Obama Health Plan". Has anyone seen it? Congress is mulling over HR3200, but it was not written by Barry...or was it?

the main point that folks a... (Below threshold)

the main point that folks are missing in this video is where he says this government plan will support itself and won't need to be subsidized by taxpayers. Everything in the government is paid for by tax payers. The feds don't produce anything, or sell anything to receive money, they take it via taxes. Only two areas produce & sell, the post office and the mint. We know self sustaining the usps is.

This shows me that Obama doesn't know how government operates

It will AMAZE us, in the ne... (Below threshold)
Trajan:

It will AMAZE us, in the next 24 hours, how Obama's
totally contradictory remarks will be...
ignored...tempered....recast....by the MSM
into a pro-Obama message... with the bastard
low-life Repubs having the gall to let
Obama swallow his Gucci loafer(and foot)
and fail to come to his aid. "Where are
the Republicans on health care"? is the
mantra. "Watching the carnage" is the answer.
It's called POLITICS, Lefties.

"Obama, you magnificent bas... (Below threshold)
Trajan:

"Obama, you magnificent bastard, I read your

book!"


George S. Patton

I can cound on zero fingers... (Below threshold)

I can cound on zero fingers the number of times I've gotten advertisements through FedEx and UPS.

The world can be changed by... (Below threshold)
Amy:

The world can be changed by man's endeavor, and that this endeavor can lead to something new and better .No man can sever the bonds that unite him to his society simply by averting his eyes . He must ever be receptive and sensitive to the new ; and have sufficient courage and skill to novel facts and to deal with them .

So, health care will be jus... (Below threshold)

So, health care will be just like the Post Office? Noted. I'll be sure not to be sick during holidays. I definitely won't be going to the doctor during lunch as only one doctor will be available at that time and we have no idea when the others will return. And finally, you can bet your ass I won't be getting sick before Christmas because there will be a line out the door with the H1N1 virus just waiting to see one of the two doctors currently working.

This political chameleon ca... (Below threshold)
Trajan:

This political chameleon can adapt to any
situation. Sometimes, his camouflage is
so elaborate that you don't see the bug
he just captured with his tongue. It's
so fast that the MSM cannot, or will not,
notice it. I do. He's getting phat on
deception. Don't expect the press to
define him. They are still in the
honeymoon phase.

Usually by this point in a ... (Below threshold)

Usually by this point in a Wizbang thread, hasn't somebody leapt to Obama's defense and called the author various names? It's a bit like the dog that didn't bark.

With the Post Office runnin... (Below threshold)
Bob:

With the Post Office running health care, the elderly and disabled are likely to end up in the Dead Letter Office. (H/T to TOTUS.)

I hope we should be take a ... (Below threshold)
robert:

I hope we should be take a bed rest in Obama: Government I should be Pray for all

Wow. Obama is one hellofa s... (Below threshold)
Hank:

Wow. Obama is one hellofa salesman.

Obamacare will be like the Post Office???
And more importantly, as dwayne the canoe guy demonstrates, Obama has no clue how govt runs. He actually stated that government the plan will support itself and won't need to be subsidized by taxpayers?

I guess Biden has more influence in this administration than I thought.

Once they replace those mai... (Below threshold)
tomg51:

Once they replace those mail trucks with GM Volts all be be well.

7. dwayne the canoe guy -</... (Below threshold)
tomg51:

7. dwayne the canoe guy -

We can add military hardware re-selling to your list. I don't know if we make money on it. Other countries seem to.

I had made the comparison t... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

I had made the comparison that it would likely be like the Dept. of Motorvehicles (DMV)... but yeah, imagine the USPS on April 15th.

You'll have the option of waiting an excessive amount of time or leaving and going home. You will have options!

"Usually by this point in a... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

"Usually by this point in a Wizbang thread, hasn't somebody leapt to Obama's defense and called the author various names?"

Yeah, Jim - it could be the cognitive dissonance has caused paralysis. Or they could just be sleeping in and waiting for new talking points.

I think the latter is more likely, actually.

Frankly, the Post Office isn't really badly run. I don't know of any other service that'll get a physical letter across the country in just a couple of days for much less than a buck - or worldwide in a relatively timely fashion for a very low perceived cost.

But they're running up against a couple of problems. Email gets there virtually instantly, so the perceived value of a snail-mail simple message has dropped to pretty much zero. (Kind of hard to compete with 'free', after all)

They do GREAT when it comes to handling packages (their partnership with PayPal and EBay to enable you to print out postage labels at home and slap them on what you need to ship is very convenient) but they haven't been advertising it excessively. I've seen a few ads - but unless you pay close attention you're not too sure whether they're for the USPS or FedEx.

Really, though, it was a bad example Obama chose. There's little respect for the Post Office - it's just background, nothing special, and slightly annoying to boot. Not what I'd want to associate w/any health care plan.

I have had more than one pe... (Below threshold)
Pretzel Logic:

I have had more than one person tell me they voted for him because he's so smart!

"They do GREAT when it come... (Below threshold)
Mycroft:

"They do GREAT when it comes to handling packages (their partnership with PayPal and EBay to enable you to print out postage labels at home and slap them on what you need to ship is very convenient) but they haven't been advertising it excessively. I've seen a few ads - but unless you pay close attention you're not too sure whether they're for the USPS or FedEx.

21. Posted by JLawson | August 12, 2009 8:12 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)"

That's because the post office re-ships with Fedex and UPS..... Yup, some ofthe shipping done by the post office is to sub contract the work out.

You didn't think the post office was that efficient did you?

"You didn't think the po... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

"You didn't think the post office was that efficient did you?"

Hey, allow me my delusions! (LOL)

More of OBAMAS malarkey fro... (Below threshold)
Flu-Bird:

More of OBAMAS malarkey from his lying liberal piehole so who can ever trust this rat?

Note the lack of comments f... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Note the lack of comments from our usual trolls. Seems Obama knocked the wind out of them from this comment. They are waiting for their talking points. ww

""You didn't think the post... (Below threshold)
Mycroft:

""You didn't think the post office was that efficient did you?"

Hey, allow me my delusions! (LOL)

24. Posted by JLawson | August 12, 2009 10:05 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast) "

But this particular delusion was the presidents!! The point I am making is that the post office sub contracts tot he competition because THEY ARE NOT UP TO THE JOB! Will healthcare be any different?

I used to be certain Al-Fre... (Below threshold)

I used to be certain Al-Fredo Gore-leone was absolutely the world's most dangerous dullard.

And then the National Socialists/Fascists (AKA the "Democrats") ran that other seriously intellectually and mentally-challenged second-generation traitor, John Kohn-Julia Stimson Thorne-Maria Teresa Thierstein Simões-Ferreira-Heinz-Kerry. And proved me wrong.

Then there was the dumbest Human to ever take a dump between two shoes, the recidivist treasonous, lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering, co-serial rapist any-old-gangsters' and gangs of girlfriends' moll, missus cli'toon.

But no one could have even delusionally fantasized anyone as dumb as the Chance the gardener-like sail-eared simpleton who presently pretends to the presidency. And who was "elected" by the 40% of Americans too damned stupid to know they're being lied to and/or by the other 15% too damned mean-spirited and/or greedy to care and/or who're criminal aliens and/or who are felons, fascists or crypto-fascists.

My bet is that 0'Zero's classical Clinical NarciSSism will compel his resignation which, thank God, will become effective during the first week of September 2011.

And at least that other dangerously-dullard "Democrat," Joe The Bent Banker Biden, doesn't hate America. As does 0'Zero.

PALIN/PETRAEUS/2012!

Brian Richard Allen
Lost Angels - Califobambicated 90028
And the Far Abroad

I saw that when he was givi... (Below threshold)

I saw that when he was giving the speech and about fell out of my chair. Unbelieveable admission. The logical conclusion then is to let private industry solve the problem.

But of course that is in no way the goal of our government.

This is so much what I mean... (Below threshold)

This is so much what I mean by we need to change America. Nobody can agree on anything.
Such hate. I believe in healthcare reform. We need something and we need something fast. It might not be perfect at first, but keep tweaking it. People are dying because of health insurance. Woman are having babies without a doctor. Children are dying and the elderly are treating without respect of any kind. This is human? We need compassion in this country. What kind of profession as the medical field become when it costs over a hundred dollars to walk into an office for a visit to a doctor. You all think you have the answer, the answer to what? The post office is the post office. You get your mail. Shut up! Wake up and smell the coffee, we are all people. We all deserve the right to life, and life lived. How's your neighbor feeling today?
Do you know or care? All this O'bama bashing. Get a life, run for president yourself, maybe you'll get elected, but it won't be with my vote.

Brian Richard Allen, what m... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

Brian Richard Allen, what makes you think that Petraeus is a Republican?

kdowd: srsly? "Shut up!"? ... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

kdowd: srsly? "Shut up!"? Howzabout we let the O'Reillys have that one for themselves?

I agree, government-run health care should be more like UPS and less like the Post Office. The Teamsters run a right ship.

Mycroft -As I said... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Mycroft -

As I said - I actually think the USPS does a pretty decent job. If they have to subcontract - at least they're not sending the packages to India first!

"Going Postal" will now be ... (Below threshold)
timajin:

"Going Postal" will now be referred to as "Going Hospital" and "Taxes" from here forward shall be replaced by "Donations". Additionally, terms for "Democrats" and "Republicans" are hereby stricken from use. Proper usage to delineate these groups shall here forward be "Us" and "Them" respectively.

Please update your Organizing for Socialism Now handbooks accordingly.

Thank you,

B.H. Obama
Community Organizer in Chief (COC)

I agree...let's try to work... (Below threshold)

I agree...let's try to work together for the greater good for all CITIZENS...

bring it on...Obama, as lon... (Below threshold)

bring it on...Obama, as long as it's not a scam idea???

Oh my Gosh! A liberal (kdow... (Below threshold)
SER Author Profile Page:

Oh my Gosh! A liberal (kdowd) said:

"We all deserve the right to life."

He/She is going to be sent to a re-education camp for sure.

He/She also said:
"People are dying because of health insurance. Woman are having babies without a doctor. Children are dying and the elderly are treating without respect of any kind."

Please show link to evidence. My liberal friends on this site hate anecdotes.

SER, do you really want to ... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

SER, do you really want to pick the craziest liberal in any comment thread and use him/her to try and make the rest of us seem silly? Because there are much crazier "conservatives", talking about armed revolutions and whether the President of the United States is even an American citizen. Wouldn't be fair to lump you in with them, would it.

Hyperbolist,My apo... (Below threshold)
SER Author Profile Page:

Hyperbolist,

My apologies if you thought that "I lumped you in with them." kdowd just ticked me off - I don't like people accusing us of a lack of respect for life.

kdowd - "Such hate. I b... (Below threshold)
Marc:

kdowd - "Such hate. I believe in healthcare reform. We need something and we need something fast. It might not be perfect at first, but keep tweaking it."

I doubt many on either side fail to believe in reform the issue is how and how high the cost.

By "keep tweaking" it do you mean like the CARS program where the WH had to quickly pull down a requirement that car dealers computers would become property of the US Gov. if they logged into the system?

By tweaking it do you mean what some have called a "death panel" that takes 10 pages in the bill to explain but doesn't give a single restriction to what and how this panel would be run?

That panel can just as easily be "tweaked" in the direction the seniors in the country are worried about, i.e. lose of care or being told they are too old for certain procedures.

How about this "Tweak" that was summarily turned down by the dems.

The ass=hat congress-critter in Minn. was asked at her town hall meeting if any federal money would be spent on any abortion related issues.

She flatly denied there would be, but she and her dem colleges are too cute by half. She didn't lie just failed to tell the entire story.

An amendment was introduced specifically to ban any Fed cash be spent on abortion in any form the dem asshats killed the amendment.

Which leads me and anyone with more than a single brain cell to conclude there will be a whole lotta "tweaking" going on and abortion will in fact be flush with cash at some point.

I am not going to go ballis... (Below threshold)
Madalyn:

I am not going to go ballistic on this one like I have others. Just a quick comment. Our daughter sent us a Thanksgiving card several years ago (from Ohio to New Mexico). It was postmarked Nov 4, and we received it in January. Hope it won't take that long for me to be able to see a doctor or have emergency surgery under the proposed health care plan.
Just saying.
Madalyn

actually, its a very apt co... (Below threshold)
Kenneth:

actually, its a very apt comparison. Fed Ex, and the like, are businesses designed to make money. to that end, they do. there are no ads sent through Fed Ex because they would be prohibitively expensive.

The USPS is not designed to make money. it runs a deficit because no one cares if it is profitable. its a service by the People, for the People. it is fast, efficient, and cheap. (unless you count the cost in taxes)

this is exactly what Obama hopes his Public Plan will be. an efficiently run althernative to the expensive, for-profit plans that will offer honest compensation for a fraction of the cost.

the reason that Fed Ex and its competitors offer Overnight service, web tracking, and other services? Because without those luxury services, would just go to the Post Office and pay a fraction of the cost. the USPS FORCED those companies to innovate, and still find a way to keep their costs down. And, in turn, the commercial services are forcing the USPS to innovate. They are offering web tracking, electronic postage, and other services because the for-profit boys are stealing their customers. For the consumer, its a win/win

It means health care will b... (Below threshold)

It means health care will be like a post office...

I laughed out loud when I h... (Below threshold)
Tammy:

I laughed out loud when I heard him actually say that! Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. He's sounding more like Barney Fife every day. My apologies to Don Knotts.




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