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Will Obamacare Cover Illegal Aliens?

Not according to President Obama, although Jon Feere of the Center for Immigration Studies makes a pretty good case that the current bills are doesn't really bar coverage for illegal aliens. Even if the final bill rectifies the situation and definitively bar illegal aliens from benefits, the Obama administration has another surprise in store, as CIS's Jerry Kammer notes:

In an interview on the program "Al Punto," White House Director of Hispanic Media Luis Miranda acknowledged that coverage would not be provided to illegals. Then he immediately added, "Precisely because of that we are working for reform" of immigration laws. Presto-change-o, problem solved, with coverage for all those formerly illegal immigrants.

See there's no need to worry about whether Obamacare will extend coverage to illegal aliens because there won't be any illegal aliens when Obamigration passes...


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We cover them.. He funds th... (Below threshold)
914:

We cover them.. He funds them.

When the GOP had complete c... (Below threshold)
JC Hammer:

When the GOP had complete control of the Gov't from 2001 thru 2006, your hero's could have fixed this problem. But you didn't.

It is and will be a problem until the illegals leave and only legal alien from other countries are here legally. And like normal, we taxpayers will be funding it all.

"When the GOP had comple... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

"When the GOP had complete control of the Gov't from 2001 thru 2006, your hero's could have fixed this problem."

A) They're not "our hero's".
B) They're not even "our heroes".

"But you didn't."

Wait. Were our "hero's" supposed to fix it, or were we? You see, those "hero's" are not "us". Please refrain from conflating the two.

JC hammerUmm The d... (Below threshold)
retired military:

JC hammer

Umm The democrats had the Senate thanks to Jumpin Jim Jeffords from 2001-2003.

We know that facts are hard to remember for liberals but do try.

Friday: News comes out abou... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Friday: News comes out about projections for an ADDITIONAL $2 trillion deficit. And there's no increase in the annual COLA for Social Security.

Monday: Obama Admin: "We're going after CIA Interrogators! (Even though Obama said we wouldn't, that promise is SO last week...) Thousands are going to die of swine flu if we don't do something! (And pay no attention to the 36,000 who die of the ful each year normally...) We're starting up a kinder, gentler interrogation unit! (With comfy chairs and pillows!) Pay no attention to that deficit crap, look over there! Something SHINY!!!!!"

Yep, Democrats DO think you're stupid, gullible, and easily distracted. Don't pay attention to what's going to kneecap the economy - obsess about the cause du jour!

The illegal alien-health ca... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

The illegal alien-health care problem has been mystifying me for some time.

Obama and the Dems promise, PROMISE, that illegals aren't covered under their State-run healthcare.

One of the main, if not THE main, reasons we 'have' to have socialized healthcare is that we have '30 mil or so uninsured', supposedly.
Of that 30 mil, 10 to 20 mil are illegals, who go to the emergency rooms for all healthcare and cost us enormous money.

So let's say socialized med passes. It's 2013 and we all have insurance or Gov't healthcare, except the illegals.

Are the illegals going to stop going to the hospital? no.
When they do go to the hospital are they going to be turned away and left to die in the streets? hell no.

*** So if we're still going to have to pay for them, then why the hell are we entirely scrapping our mostly good existing system??? ***

In 2000 the Republicans by ... (Below threshold)
MPR:

In 2000 the Republicans by virtue of the tie breaking vote by V.P. Cheney. Trent,(I was a cheerleader in college, boom rickitty rah),Lott was the Majority leader in the Senate. He, being "fair" let Tommy Daschle(D) have some of the chairmanships of important committees which weakened the ability of the Republicans to get legislation out of those committees. Daschle(minority leader) worked his political magic on "moderate" Jumpin' Jeffords. As soon as Jumpin' J.J. jumped, Tommy took over ALL of the chairmanships and control of the Senate leaving Trent Lott standing in the wings with toupe in hand. Never trust a liberal.

"... your hero's could have... (Below threshold)
Garandfan:

"... your hero's could have fixed this problem. But you didn't."

Recent data indicates that there are not "47 million" uninsured. When you get down to the nitty gritty, the number approaches "14 million", which equates to about 5% of the population. Hardly an EMERGENCY! like Barry proclains. Oh and JC, there were bigger things going on starting in 2001, if you care to recall.

"Will Obamacare Cover Il... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

"Will Obamacare Cover Illegal Aliens?"

They're already covered.

So, how do You fix it JC? G... (Below threshold)
914:

So, how do You fix it JC? Give them ACORN status and let them vote right? Well they already do so there is no problem.

Oh noes! The Mexicans will ... (Below threshold)
Jake:

Oh noes! The Mexicans will dominate us all! Ignore the language in the bill that says clearly that illegals won't be covered and spin up xenophobia instead!

Yeah Wizbang!

ACORN "status"? What the f*... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

ACORN "status"? What the f*ck are you talking about?

Avoid stringing words together if you don't understand the sum total of them, 914.

"Oh noes! The Mexicans will... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

"Oh noes! The Mexicans will dominate us all! Ignore the language in the bill that says clearly that illegals won't be covered and spin up xenophobia instead!"

'the bill that says clearly that illegals won't be covered' -

So who IS going to pay for them, then?

Jake - "Oh noes! The Me... (Below threshold)
Marc:

Jake - "Oh noes! The Mexicans will dominate us all! Ignore the language in the bill that says clearly that illegals won't be covered and spin up xenophobia instead!"

Correct, as far as it goes. Specifically it says: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States." (See Section 246.)"Now, Jake, can you read that section of the bill, or any other section, and point out both enforcement and penalties issued to an illegal that in fact uses the new health care system?

The Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) program is used to verify legal status for many fed entitlements, why is there no specific language in the health care bill mandating its use?

To all of the usual suspect... (Below threshold)
JustRuss:

To all of the usual suspects: I HATE BUSH FOR NOT ENFORCING OUR LAWS ON IMMIGRATION OR BUILDING THE FENCE HE PROMISED!

I hate him for being a pansy about Illegal Immigration and trying to do so many pansy leftist things to make them legal.

We need to build the fence first, at the same time as we begin cracking down on employers. When no new persons can come into the country, and those that are here can no longer find work they will leave. Problem Solved.

We will NOT achieve anything by granting amnesty! All we will do is encourage them!

You know what? Build the fence and keep them out, and I would even give you your amnesty.

Congress has three choices ... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

Congress has three choices on how to handle the uninsured illegals under socialized Obamacare (assuming they keep their 'promise' that no illegals are covered under their govt healthcare plan):

1. Refuse treatment to the illegals and let them die on the streets outside the hospitals. (yeah, right; like that's gonna happen. I don't want that to happen either.)
or
2. Grant them all amnesty and viola! They are now citizens and covered under Obamacare. More poor people for the taxpayer to support.
or
3. Continue letting them illegally access hospitals for their maladies; in which case the taxpayer continues to pay for their free care.

Tell me again why we want to scrap our entire healthcare system?

A fence?! Russ, I don't kno... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

A fence?! Russ, I don't know about you, but I'm willing to bet that every able-bodied Mexican can use ladders and shovels--probably even the ones that don't have Spanish instructions.

hyper - "A fence?! Russ... (Below threshold)
Marc:

hyper - "A fence?! Russ, I don't know about you, but I'm willing to bet that every able-bodied Mexican can use ladders and shovels--probably even the ones that don't have Spanish instructions."

Yep, probably so, but even you must admit it's HAS TO BE far easier to see someone climbing over, or under a fence than it is to see one just meandering across a wide-open boarder.

But you won't.

"but even you must admit it... (Below threshold)
Jake:

"but even you must admit it's HAS TO BE far easier to see someone climbing over, or under a fence than it is to see one just meandering across a wide-open boarder."

Ha ha ha - Marc, you're awesome. How do you propose to monitor, maintain, and respond to that many miles of "fence"? How do you move officers into place the moment that movement on the fence is actually detected? Do you make a case that we should staff the fence with a 2 minute response time? Can you possibly imagine how much manpower that would be? Or the cost to maintain such a fence year after year after year?

It's great to see that you're so willing to increase government programs... when it comes to supporting your xenophobia, at least. Providing your fellow citizens with healthcare? No! Keeping out the dirty illegals? Spend, spend, spend!

jake - "It's great to s... (Below threshold)
Marc:

jake - "It's great to see that you're so willing to increase government programs... when it comes to supporting your xenophobia, at least. Providing your fellow citizens with healthcare? No! Keeping out the dirty illegals? Spend, spend, spend!"

There's a butt load of hair-brained assumptions there, and you know what's said about assuming something.

First, point me in a direction of anyone in the public arena with more than a single brain cell who's opposed to health care reform.

You can cease stuffing that strawman anytime now.

"xenophobia?" Another wild off the mark assumption and BTW, f-off.

Finally, quote where I claimed a fence was needed on the entire border, you can't, it was never said, implied or suggested.

and I forgot to add... jake... (Below threshold)
Marc:

and I forgot to add... jake, you seem to have overlooked answering a legit question.

It was much easier to pen a factless rant than it was in finding any enforcement tools or any direct methods to prevent public money be spent on health care for illegals wasn't it?

Can't wait to see the Tea P... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

Can't wait to see the Tea Parties when people realize they're going to get socialized medicine AND amnesty for 20 million illegals that the taxpayer will have to pay for.

There will be social unrest like we haven't seen since the 60's. Things will get bad.

Les:I'm afraid you... (Below threshold)
JustRuss:

Les:

I'm afraid you are correct about the social unrest this will cause. The problem is that in the 60's it was liberal and progressive activists and radicals that were uneasy. This time it is the Conservative and Libertarian parties and all the organizations those entail. I really hope we do not go down the path of a Revolution or Coup.

Not that I am opposed, I just pray that it is all solved bloodlessly and peacefully. However more and more I see "Don't Tread On Me" flags and hear the quote from Thomas Jefferson "The tree of Liberty must be fed."

If we truly do head down a path to socialism or Obamacricy where it ends up semi or fully dictatorship. Then there is only one way to get our country back.

I hope you all pray for peace and no violence in this struggle.

Russ

Russ:However mo... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

Russ:

However more and more I see "Don't Tread On Me" flags and hear the quote from Thomas Jefferson "The tree of Liberty must be fed."

If we truly do head down a path to socialism or Obamacricy where it ends up semi or fully dictatorship. Then there is only one way to get our country back.

So when the police, National Guard, and Army have to stomp the treasonous Tea Bagger Rebellion, will you do the sensible thing and stay indoors for the duration? Or will you orphan your children in a foolhardy attempt to "feed the tree of liberty" with the blood of cops and soldiers?

Russ, it's not the 18th century and life isn't a movie or video game.

#23May God grant y... (Below threshold)
Thomas Jackson:

#23

May God grant you the freedom of your chains.

Its time to re-examine inst... (Below threshold)

Its time to re-examine instant citizenship (Anchor babies) which hasn't been illuminated enough, to growing concern of the American public. For decades now pregnant women have arrived on tourist's visas, through the fence and even at ports of call. Very aware of our mis-interpreted law governing "birthright citizenship", that attributes full rights to the Mother of an illegal immigrant. How can Americans benefit from this Health care reform package, when we must subsidize millions of households and not just the original interloper? Outlined in the spring issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons is an article that will stun a prudent person. An illegal alien entered the states in 1997 to work as a fruit picker, bringing with him his wife and three children; all illegal aliens.

The lady gave birth to a fourth child, and with that birth the family had an "anchor baby"--an American citizen by birth, who provided the entire family with a free pass to remain in the United States permanently and collect government, subsides. Unfortunately the baby was born prematurely, spent three months in the neonatal incubator, and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, the oldest daughter married an illegal alien and gave birth to her own anchor baby, and then Cristobal's wife gave birth to yet another baby. ALL PAID FOR BY--YOU!

This is just one taxpayer example of the 'Rule of law' that has cost taxpayers billions of dollars. A nurse admitted last weekend, according to Review-Journal reported that cash-strapped UMC hospital in Nevada is providing more than $20 million a year in emergency dialysis care for uninsured, illegal immigrants. Is American society insane when poverty stricken Americans are turned away, go bankrupt and sometimes die? TAXPAYERS ARE TAXED FOR THIS, BUT NOT FOR OUR OWN PEOPLE? We must insist that a Birthright Citizenship lawsuit be filed with the federal court and its original intent revisited? That E-Verify should be fully funded and a highly skilled MIT team, building on the original Immigration enforcement database to a highest level of security that cannot be compromised by the use of fraudulent documents.

The PC oriented application must be installed permanently on every business computer across this country? ICE should have the manpower to audit every workplace, with the power to arrest and detain employers who snub immigration laws? Repeat offenders should be dealt with harshly, including prison and confiscation of business assets. There should be no mitigating excuses because illegal immigrants are--STEALING JOBS-- on any rung of the employment ladder? These employers for years have been an intended magnet for destitute labor in many cases, but have left the burden of paying for schooling for the children, health care and a veiled miscellaneous core of government handouts to US taxpayers. THIS IS NOT ABOUT RACISM, BUT AN ULTIMATE FINANCIAL MATTER OF SURVIVAL FOR US ALL! Coincidentally, I want a government health care, specially for some low income American family members.

Insist your politicians guarantee E-Verify is fully funded and is not scuttled by Sen. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Janet Napolitano or any other high ranking Democrats. The Washington switchboard has their number at 202-224-3121. Research these laws, true facts and incredulous stats at NUMBERSUSA & JUDICIAL WATCH




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