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Let's Hear It For George

When I learned that President Obama was to appear everywhere on Sunday except for Fox News I assumed the obligatory genuflection of the President's network cheerleaders would again be on display. Much to my surprise George Stephanopoulos was not having any of it. The result was a clearly defensive and flummoxed President. This is priceless:

STEPHANOPOULOS: ...during the campaign. Under this mandate, the government is forcing people to spend money, fining you if you don't. How is that not a tax?

OBAMA: Well, hold on a second, George. Here -- here's what's happening. You and I are both paying $900, on average -- our families -- in higher premiums because of uncompensated care. Now what I've said is that if you can't afford health insurance, you certainly shouldn't be punished for that. That's just piling on. If, on the other hand, we're giving tax credits, we've set up an exchange, you are now part of a big pool, we've driven down the costs, we've done everything we can and you actually can afford health insurance, but you've just decided, you know what, I want to take my chances. And then you get hit by a bus and you and I have to pay for the emergency room care, that's...

STEPHANOPOULOS: That may be, but it's still a tax increase.

OBAMA: No. That's not true, George. The -- for us to say that you've got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase. What it's saying is, is that we're not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you anymore than the fact that right now everybody in America, just about, has to get auto insurance. Nobody considers that a tax increase. People say to themselves, that is a fair way to make sure that if you hit my car, that I'm not covering all the costs.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But it may be fair, it may be good public policy...

OBAMA: No, but -- but, George, you -- you can't just make up that language and decide that that's called a tax increase. Any...

STEPHANOPOULOS: Here's the...

OBAMA: What -- what -- if I -- if I say that right now your premiums are going to be going up by 5 or 8 or 10 percent next year and you say well, that's not a tax increase; but, on the other hand, if I say that I don't want to have to pay for you not carrying coverage even after I give you tax credits that make it affordable, then...

STEPHANOPOULOS: I -- I don't think I'm making it up. Merriam Webster's Dictionary: Tax -- "a charge, usually of money, imposed by authority on persons or property for public purposes."

OBAMA: George, the fact that you looked up Merriam's Dictionary, the definition of tax increase, indicates to me that you're stretching a little bit right now. Otherwise, you wouldn't have gone to the dictionary to check on the definition. I mean what...

STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, no, but...

OBAMA: ...what you're saying is...

STEPHANOPOULOS: I wanted to check for myself. But your critics say it is a tax increase.

OBAMA: My critics say everything is a tax increase. My critics say that I'm taking over every sector of the economy. You know that. Look, we can have a legitimate debate about whether or not we're going to have an individual mandate or not, but...

STEPHANOPOULOS: But you reject that it's a tax increase?

OBAMA: I absolutely reject that notion.

My cynical side tells me that the President just had his ass handed to him by a former Clinton insider. Rest assured that distinction is not lost on anyone in the Obama administration. Secretary of State Clinton is now probably on her way to a hastily scheduled meeting on national security in Madagascar.


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Creigh Deeds must be advisi... (Below threshold)
Eric:

Creigh Deeds must be advising Obama on tax policy.

"Taxes? Taxes? I don't se... (Below threshold)
Eric:

"Taxes? Taxes? I don't see no steenkin taxes!"

Obama: "I reject the notion... (Below threshold)
Hermie:

Obama: "I reject the notion that the sky is blue."

Obama: "I reject the notion that 2+2=4"

"Rejecting the notion" is just a new way to lie about the facts.

Oh, I guess that makes me a racist.

Taxes are something that yo... (Below threshold)
kathie:

Taxes are something that you pay to the State and Federal Government so our elected officials can spend in any way they want, including medical care. If the government is running Medical insurance, it's a tax. If you are asked to pay for a product that you control and benefit from, I can't see that it is a tax. However it will cost every American money.

If the government is ... (Below threshold)
hslatery:

If the government is running Medical insurance, it's a tax.

Good point Kathie. That's why the President's auto insurance comparison fails.

If you are using the defini... (Below threshold)

If you are using the definition of a word you're 'stretching a point'?!?!?

What the hell does THAT mean, other than when Obama uses a word it can mean whatever in the hell he wants it to mean?

You know its bad when you a... (Below threshold)
UNCLEZEB:

You know its bad when you are pulling for any member of the former Clinton Admin.

George, the fact t... (Below threshold)
Stan25:
George, the fact that you looked up Merriam's Dictionary, the definition of tax increase, indicates to me that you're stretching a little bit right now. Otherwise, you wouldn't have gone to the dictionary to check on the definition. I mean what...

To paraphrase Slick Willie: That depends on what the definition of a tax is and isn't. All of this posturing on national tv does not look good for the "Anointed One". In fact, it cast more negative dispersions on him and his administration of total dunces.

And, yet, despite this perf... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

And, yet, despite this performance, the President is still likely flummoxed as to why he can't get his message across. I figure that in another 6 months everyone to the political right of Obama will have read "Rules For Radicals" and from that point, well, his administration will be pretty much down the tank.

I'll give George Stepuponab... (Below threshold)
MPR:

I'll give George Stepuponaboxanopoulus credit for just showing up at the studio with Obamalala. Asking Obamalala to try to explain anything about "his" plan should trip him up because none of it makes any sense.

The government doesn't requ... (Below threshold)
RicardoVerde:

The government doesn't require me to drive a car.

ROTFLMAO!A fine is... (Below threshold)
Gary Author Profile Page:

ROTFLMAO!

A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

Take your pick!

Some props have to go to St... (Below threshold)
Marc:

Some props have to go to Stephanopoulos for being the only network to ask about ACORN.

On the other hand obama, because of his answer must be either classified as the most tone deaf politician ever to sit in the WH, or flat out disingenuous liar:

STEPHANOPOULOS: How about the funding for ACORN?

OBAMA: You know, it's -- frankly, it's not really something I've followed closely. I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Both the Senate and the House have voted to cut it off.

OBAMA: You know, what I know is, is that what I saw on that video was certainly inappropriate and deserves to be investigated.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So you're not committing to -- to cut off the federal funding?

OBAMA: George, this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It's not something I'm paying a lot of attention to.

All of which means he never read the stimulus bill before signing it as it contained a provision that made ACORN eligible for hundreds of millions of dollars.

It also means he hasn't clue one what his own DEM congress is doing because both the House (one bill) and the senate (2 bills) have voted to cut off funding.

It means, after moving oversight of the census into the WH his "oversight" SUCKS as they cut all ties to ACORN several days ago.

13.Why is that neces... (Below threshold)
RicardoVerde:

13.
Why is that necessarily an either/or question? Why not both?

Health insurance is like co... (Below threshold)

Health insurance is like collision insurance ...
NOBODY is required to buy collision ... Liability yes, collision no ...

for Kathie, Buying health insurance is not the tax, the Mandated FINE is the TAX ... no matter if the govt is running the scam or not ...

How is that not a tax?... (Below threshold)
LiberalNitemare:

How is that not a tax?

Shut up! Thats how!

I plan on reading alinsky s... (Below threshold)
JustRuss:

I plan on reading alinsky soon as well as rereading atlas shrugged.

Posted from my palm pre

Obviously Stephanopoulos is... (Below threshold)
kevino:

Obviously Stephanopoulos is a racist.

President Obama has said some stupid things, but this is a good one: "I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money." Hat tip to Stephanopoulos for getting that response. Either Obama is lying or he's totally uninformed.

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By the way, concerning taxes. Obama was asked at his latest town meeting about the cost. He replied: "You are absolutely right. I can't cover another 47 million people for free. I can't do that. We're going to have to find money from somewhere."

That's some plan you've got there.

I never thought George was ... (Below threshold)
k:

I never thought George was tough enough or fast enough to be a good interviewer or TV commentator.

In the transcript O keeps cutting him off. O is faster and frankly outwits him. George starts with something and ends with nothing.

Ted Koppel knew how to interview, O couldn't have pulled this on him. I don't always agree with Ted but his skills were amazing a few years back when I watched Nightline.

in the same interview Obama... (Below threshold)

in the same interview Obama claims he barely knows ANYTHING about issues with ACORN:

STEPHANOPOULOS: So you're not committing to -- to cut off the federal funding?
OBAMA: George, this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It's not something I'm paying a lot of attention to.

He must be spending his time delving into MISDEMEANOR "disturbing the peace" incidents again...THOSE are the really big issues!

Good for Stephanopoulos, th... (Below threshold)
MF:

Good for Stephanopoulos, though he wouldnt ask the tough questions.

Well apparently Pres. Obama isnt finished with his plans for the US: there is talk of potential newspaper bailout and he thinks he is King of the world with "Obama Says Financial Regulations Must Be Strengthened Globally

By Nicholas Johnston

Sept. 19 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said tougher financial regulations are needed worldwide to protect consumers, provide economic stability and prevent future crises. "

After that interview, I can... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

After that interview, I can imagine Rahm and/or Axelrod calling STEPHANOPOULOS and saying:

#@$#%^&%#[email protected]&*%#$^&*(&#^#$ and we ain't coming back for any interviews. Who the hell you think you're working for, FOX?

"we can have a legitimate d... (Below threshold)
914:

"we can have a legitimate debate about whether or not we're going to have an individual mandate or not, but....."

"Look...George, we can have these disagreements and debates with critics.. But if You make legitimate mincemeat out of My arguments the debate is over.. Got it Snuffaluffugus..?"

Secretary of State Clint... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

Secretary of State Clinton is now probably on her way to a hastily scheduled meeting on national security in Madagascar.

No, I suspect she's in a meeting with potential backers for challenge to the Messiah for the nomination in 2012.


Tax? Fine?Either w... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Tax? Fine?

Either way Barry is screwed. A 'fine' would indicate a transgression, which I believe would require a 'guilty verdict'. Hence, a trial. Or does Barry expect to skip steps 1 & 2, therefore running afoul of that founding document for which he has so little respect.

And if he thinks the IRS will get help from people for having a question on the 1040: "What is the name of the insurance company and policy number you hold for health care insurance".

The obvious answer is: "5th Amendment protections apply."

So is Barry willing to tie up the courts on this when several thousand people refuse to purchase health care insurance?

So Wizbangers, when is Barr... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

So Wizbangers, when is Barry taking his road show to the Food Channel. He's been everywhere else.

Is it my imagination or are... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Is it my imagination or are the trolls responding less and less?

Isn't it sad that we celebr... (Below threshold)
Kathy:

Isn't it sad that we celebrate when the media asks one or two tough questions? Obama should be afraid to go on tv with his record, his 'plans', and all the lies he's told.

Breitbart is going to turn the blaze on old media this week. Maybe conservatives can kill it before Obama can subsidize it.

GarandFan-Obama wi... (Below threshold)
rory:

GarandFan-

Obama will be on David Letterman tomorrow night-just in case you missed him today on ABC,NBC, or CBS.

They've slated the complete hour for Obama.

An hours worth of Barry?? ... (Below threshold)
914:

An hours worth of Barry??

I can hardly wait for all the drama of the Obama lie-Orama.

So, Hillary smells blood an... (Below threshold)
davidt:

So, Hillary smells blood and sends one of her loyalists to hasten the hemoraging.

Personally I'm surprised th... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Personally I'm surprised that ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN haven't given Barry his own hour every night. Of course they' CHARGE the government as Barry has already cost they way too much already with his prime time IT'S AN EMERGENCY! speeches.

Heard a gentleman opine on a talk show tonight that all Barry showed today was him OVERSIZED EGO. And dare I say, mentioned that he thought Barry had a "messiah complex". He finished by saying that he was under the impression that if Barry talked long enough, often enough, conservatives would throw in the towel just to shut him up.

Is it possible that Obama i... (Below threshold)
Not Always Right:

Is it possible that Obama is finding out that he cannot just vote "present" now that he is playing at being the President of the United States?

And what a total idiot to try to say he had no idea that ACORN was getting money from the federal government. The concept of shame must be completely forgeign to Obama.

"The concept of shame must ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"The concept of shame must be completely foreign to Obama."

You have to have INTEGRITY in order to feel shame. Hell, HYPOCRISY doesn't even bother him.

"The notion" is how a Clini... (Below threshold)

"The notion" is how a Clinical Narcissist sees an inconvenient Truth.

And like every dangerous dullard (Al-Fredo Gore-leone, eg; John Julia Stimson Thorne Maria Teresa Thierstein Simões-Ferreira Heinz Kohn-Kerry, eg) 0zero also suffers from an inability to perceive other than that everyone else on Earth is less intelligent than he.

Combine these egregious character flaws with the fact he is the focus of his fearsome and loathsome spouse's incessant envy, hatred and rage and the die is set:

PREDICTION: -- Not only does 0zero not make it to November 2012, he fails by his own hand!

The 0zero "presidency" ends in his September 2011 resignation from our office!

He wouldn't step down unles... (Below threshold)
JustRuss:

He wouldn't step down unless he were about to lose an impeachment. I maintain that he is probably meticulously disconnected from the evil he surrounds himself with. Thus there is nothing but conjecture and circumstance to pin on him.

No I don't see his reign ending til 2012 unfortunately; thank God for midterms!

" Isn't it sad that we cele... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

" Isn't it sad that we celebrate when the media asks one or two tough questions?

28. Posted by Kathy "


So true. George asks one decent question and it's considered remarkable. How far the MSM has fallen.

I never cared for the Clint... (Below threshold)
apb:

I never cared for the Clintonistas, but hat's off to Stephanopolous for doing a job no one else in the media has the nads to do - actually question The Won.

Pretty soon, kids everywhere will be remarking that the emperor has no clothes...




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