This is disgusting. F*%cking savages.

How about a little Old Testament justice for these scumbags? What say you Rev. Wright????

Reminds me of the movie "Escape from New York"

I looked at that video yesterday...and the kids are all wearing similar clothing so it's hard to tell who is doing what, but it looked to me like the victim was "joining in" the melee, right up until the point he was slammed in the head with a large piece of lumber. The same kid had been running with the group and threw a punch at someone right up until he was hit in the head.

Once he was down, the mob seemed to light upon him and fatally beat him.

With the mindless savagery that was taking place, I'm guessing that the first person to get knocked to the ground would have been lit upon in the same manner by the mob.

I was under the impression that the victim was targeted.

Maybe someone can explain to me where what I saw wasn't what actually happened.

Only in the mad mind of Shallow Mallow could someone have turned this into an Obama rant. Stark fucking bat shit crazy are you Obama hating wingnut loons. I read one of these pieces of garbage and think it can't be out-done but then some nitwit idiot of a fool like Shallow Mallow sits down and starts typing away.

You are some sick sick folks.

IT DOESN"T MATTER IF HE WAS AN HONOR ROLL STUDENT! What the HELL is going on in Chicago? Some poor kid was beaten to death!

This is not a left or right issue, this is a family and cultural issue. This is inner city culture, the same that is celebrated by rappers who carry guns with them to go out dancing. This is racism but it is not the fault of "white" people. This is the fault of a system that rewards women for having children out of wedlock. A system that forces poor people, mostly of color, into housing blocks and "projects" because the Government makes it affordable. This is the fault of politicians who want to take care of everybody and remove any personal responsibility from their lives.

Chicago is screwed up beyond recognition; gun laws to prevent law abiding people owning a handgun, but murder rates where handguns are used through the roof. Corruption up and down the ladder of politics.

Yeah, something tells me the Olympics are not coming here.

"I'm sure Sasha and Malia Obama were never subjected to this type of scenario after school."

I am sorry Shawn. I am pretty much on record here as being no fan of the current president. Unfortunately, using this video to make an off handed comment about the presdient's kids, let alone the president, eliminates any impact of your discussion for me. This is very tragic. I will agree that this culture has evolved over decades. The Obama children come from family where there is both a loving mother and father present. And, yes, if I had Obama's means I would make sure that my kids would not be subjected to this - and not apologize to you for it.

"You would think this type of atmosphere would not exist in the place from which The One hails"

"I'm sure Sasha and Malia Obama were never subjected to this type of scenario after school."

You sicken me. Seriously, the way you choose to make your point (which I fail to really understand beyond the standard "I hate Obama!" rant) sickens me. You're using the death of a child to make a snarky political point. Yeah for you.

"There is hope, though, as it seems the White House now has its priorities straight."

Wait, wait, wait. I thought you were from the States Rights Above All Else party? Aren't Republicans against federal government interfering in the actions of a state? Aren't you the same one who just posted a "Obama Sucks!" rant I'm responding to? You finish up this sickening rant by making the point that while you dislike everything about Obama, you want him to solve Chicago's problems from the Federal level?

God I wish you would just cowboy up and be intellectually honest in your arguments: You hate Obama and everything he'll ever do regardless of outcome. If you were to EVER say that openly and honestly, without wrapping it in a veil of sickening pandering, at least I'd have respect for you ownership of the position.

Truly vile, this post.

Also please tell me that the number of school Chicago is NOT actually 666? Please let that be a typo, I really do not want to hear the antichrist rants.

Obama scares the shit out of me, but I have to believe he is not antichrist. There is not an actual person in the bible that holds that title. Who cares how scarily close to the Left Behind version of end time events the Obama administration is. That was just a work of fiction!

SAUD,
I resent you drawing conclusions about me based on Shawn's post. You, sir, are an ass.

So Wizbangers, who's going to call for the resignation of Shallow Mallow? If this had been ANY other media channel and if this had been about ANY conservative, you'd be rioting in the streets about this post.

Why not comment on the content rather than Shawn SAUD?

More outraged about Shawn trashing your hero than some poor kid beat to death in one of your socialist paradises?

Says a lot about you.

Sort of a Maureen Dowd-ish, Daily Kos type of rant, huh SAUD?

Hypocrites like you are so predictable.

Btw, that "Shallow" bit is so original.

You see something like this and you're outraged ...by the blogger?

You definitely need to send your moral compass back to the shop.

And as for the participants in this outrage, they should be tried, convicted, and executed. All of them.

Two last things:

1. I typed "Shallow" on accident - meant to type Shawn... busy day today. Sorry about that.

2. By "Saud" do you mean "Jake"? I see no Saud in this thread, so I'm confused.

Didn't Barry and his buddy Ayers 'clean up' the Chicago school system with MILLIONS from the Annenburg Foundation? Or did they just 'clean up'?

As for gangbangers, the gang gives them a sense of identity and 'worth'. You know, things they used to get at home. Discipline is schools is a thing of the past. Don't want to hurt Johnny's 'self-esteem'. In many places you can't even kick the worthless shits out, so they become a drag on everyone else.

And the cycle will continue until enough of the public finally get fed up with it. We're already into '3rd generation' gang members now.

Shots at Obama because of this are a bit of stretch, but not as much as you seem to think. Obama talks about sorting out the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, yet here is his hometown, where he could have shown us whatever magical peace-making abilities he has, and it's as much of a shithole now as it ever was, with the communities he "organized" the very worst of the worst.

GarandFan said: "And the cycle will continue until enough of the public finally get fed up with it. "

You don't think the public is already "fed up with it"?

Once the public reaches this point you think they're not at (i.e. it comes home to a lot more middle and upper class neighborhoods), I'm curious what you'd suggest actually is DONE to fix it? Getting "fed up" isn't a solution.

I'm curious what you'd suggest actually is DONE to fix it.

I already answered that question. A robust death penalty, quickly (within a year of conviction), vigorously, and dare I say, liberally, applied.

Where's Jeremiah Wright? How about Jesse Jackson? Al Sharpton? Barack Obama? Skip Gates? Any of the other race hustlers? Cat got their tongues? No honkies to shake down, so no interest?

Mallow

Shallow couldn't be more of an accurate description for the depth of your thinking. Original or not.

You ought to read a few of the responses from some folks from the right side here. Some of them found your piece of garbage pretty far out also.

You ought to stick with selling shoes or whatever your day job is.

I will be a Wizbanger who calls for an apology! This should not have been politicized or at the very least left the family out of it. Chicago is His town so he should have some ownership of the problem, but by no means is this His fault directly!

Apologize on the senate floor!

"I already answered that question. A robust death penalty, quickly (within a year of conviction), vigorously, and dare I say, liberally, applied."

Wow, talk about compassionate conservatism!

So you're advocating the killing of teenagers and younger? (Who were the subjects of this video, as I'm reading it) Because yeah, the "Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out" approach is so fantastic at actually solving the problem...

If I recall, American has one of the highest crime rate in western countries, and we're one of the only (the only?) with the death penalty. So you're saying that if we used it death penalty MORE it would solve the problem better than it's clearly not solved at all to date?

That's some smart logic!

For those that don't believe this is a normal occurrence at Chicago public School's dismissals, go here, http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/09/30/chicagos-killing-fields.php#comments Read how the Police must have 4 and 5 squad cars sitting outside of these schools at dismissal time to try to prevent chaos and mayhem. Ask yourself, would you send your children to theses schools? We know the President won't and yet, he keeps others locked in these dangerous failing schools. Bush was right when he pinned "The soft bigotry of low expectations" on the left.

Soory here's the correct link for Police blog, http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2009/09/beating-death-on-tape.html

Today's wizbangblog! headline was predicted yesterday:

Michelle Malkin's Still Got Her Google Alerts Set to "Black Teenagers"

http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/29/michelle-malkins-still-got-her-google-alerts-set-to-black-teenagers/

No not death penalty unless the killing blow can be determined and the perpetrator identified. How about caning? It works well for Singapore, I've been there and there isn't even gum under the park benches.

Public Caning, and give the power of corporal punishment back to the schools. If a student doesn't do their homework make them sit on the floor because a chair is a privelage.

As for what to do to solve it? Well for one thing we can stop spending $40k+ per year on welfare participants (I think its higher but would rahter lowball it). I don't make that much and I work for my money. How about not rewarding single mothers? If the father sticks around and is making enough money to support the family then let him. But if that same father does not stick around then the child must be placed in foster care or an orphanage.

It is true that you should not punish the child for the sins of the parents. But leaving them in an underprivelaged home even with someone who loves them, but without a father figure, and sending them to these schools where gangs and viloence are a way of life is still punishment.

Let the mother stay in the childs life, by working at the childrens home part time to earn her welfare check. And yes oh my god I can't believe i'm saying it, force sterilization after three kids for men AND women in these situations.

I DONT KNOW! But there has to be a solution besides enabling these poor kids to become thugs and welfare leaches.

The whole situation is FRUSTRATING! But you have to agree that government programs are NOT helping these people! Expanding those programs will only make the problem worse! This is what we have to look forward to from a socialist America.

I can't wait for this to repeat itself in 2016 with the victim as some German or Japanese Olympics tourist.

No, you cannot hold Obama accountable for this, but it does raise questions about his Secy of Education, who used to run this educational nightmare. It also raises the question of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Obama chaired and paid millions of dollars to ideologically based school programs and few if any for actual education. Perhaps things would be better if liberals stopped looking at feel good ideology and concentrated on education that will help these kids find a better life or themselves.

If I recall, American has one of the highest crime rate in western countries, and we're one of the only (the only?) with the death penalty.

Actually our crime rate has been declining in recent years while those in Europe have been climbing. At the same time we have enacting shall issue carry laws in nearly every state (Illinois being one of the few exceptions) and European nations have been banning handguns.

No the death penalty probably does not have a huge deterrent effect on crime, but it absolutely prevents recidivism.

Unfortunately, Illinois has shown some serious problems in administering justice in that Local DA's and police have broken the laws to get convictions and put innocent people on death row. There is no indication that anyone was executed wrongly, but it remains a big issue. The Chicago PD is up to their ears in that scandal and I am not convinced that they have completely rooted out the problem.

Meanwhile this shows that the gun ban in Chicago is absolutely meaningless. Maybe when he gets back from Copenhagen, Mayor Daley will close all the lumber yards. It's not the weapon it's the people.

This is so unfair. Obi One is seeing this, and getting homesick. How the hell do you expect him to complete his packing for Copehagen!

How he yearns for that good old Chi town organizing. Bustin' heads - union style.

I am having a fun time again reading SAUD and Jake's comments oozing with their faux indignation. They are from the party of trashing GW's family, Palin's family and now all of a sudden, you just mention, mention Barry's kids and they "cannot believe it". You guys are clowns. You and the left sold your souls to the devil years ago. You are a vile, reprobate crowd.

Obama is presented as being able to solve everything. It makes sense to tie Barry to the recent problems in Chicago since he has been representing them for years in community orginizing, the state office and senate. Now all of a sudden they had no part in the direction and leadership of this immoral city? Yeah right.

A refresher: For eight years we heard about GW Bush state of Texas having poor grade achievement. Polution, etc. Now the shoe is most definitely on the other foot. You lefties should have never set the example of what can and cannot be discussed. So, take your faux outrage and hang with your own kind. ww

Uh, oh, gotta tip my hat to the trolls on this one. The presentation of this story - an admittedly disgusting video of urban violence - is an argument based on non sequiturs. The actions of these youths at that time in that situation prove nothing about Obama or his politics. First, the plea here sounds a lot like the equally fallacious leftist argument that the policies of [_______ name of any Republican President] are responsible for homelessness. Obama's "policies" as a CO, legislator or President cannot reasonably be connected to this incident, or, in fact to incidents like it that preceded it and will surely follow it. Second, the trolls are correct. These are criminal acts are a state and local matter. Obama, as President, has nothing to do with the particulars of this case, as he also did not with the Cambridge, Massachusetts incident. Third, no evidence is provided to support the argument that Obama does not sincerely, even if erroneously, believe that extended class time will not produce educational benefits, but comes solely from cynical support for his buddies. Look all this said, I believe that Obama is the necessary catalyst for the now imminent, due to his efforts, and necessary collapse of the Welfare State model of government. But painting him with this broad a brush really is counterproductive. Take a deep breath next time.