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Political Tsunami

When the tide recedes suddenly and goes so far out one can barely see the waterline, it is a very bad sign as regards what comes next... And while I think the headline below trivializes the rest of the analysis, I think the analysis itself is quite sound:

Perotistas on the march
Ross Perot tapped into a populist anger in the 1990s; Democrats may fall prey to those same forces.

By Jonah Goldberg
The Los Angeles Times

One of the most macabre images I've ever heard described came in the aftermath of the Asian tsunami in 2004. Before the tidal wave crashed on shore, beach- goers stood around and idly gaped as the water drastically receded. Bewildered, they didn't realize they were looking at the prelude to a calamity.

The Democratic Party looks more and more like those beachgoers every day, watching popular support recede, oblivious to the Perot tsunami coming our way.

...

Fast-forward to today. The tea-party protesters are in large part the heirs of Perotism. Liberal commentators are entirely deaf to the fact that the tea partyers have considerable antipathy to both political parties, preferring to cast the protesters as a deranged band of birthers and racists or hired guns of a Republican "AstroTurf" campaign.

Meanwhile, as National Review's Ramesh Ponnuru has argued, the Democrats have convinced themselves that the moral of Clinton's failed healthcare push is not that he was wrong to try, but that he was wrong not to cram it through against popular opposition.

Yea, Verily.

The Tea Party Protests are less party specific than they are anti-incumbent and policy specific. The party which embraces those two realities will benefit from having done so. Should neither major party do so, some third way will likely briefly prosper instead.

The question is: Who will mount the tiger and attempt to ride?


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Comments (17)

If the national elections w... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

If the national elections were held today, the Dummycrats wouldn't know what hit them.

It looks increasingly like ... (Below threshold)
jim m:

It looks increasingly like one of those things where the harder you push the stiffer the resistance becomes.

The problem Obama has is that he has done a lot of study on ideology but apparently nothing on human nature. He has no clue on how people will increasingly resist something being forced upon them. His tactics will Fox belie a totalitarian way of thinking about the media and his reaction to Honduras shows the same about government.

He has no interest in working in a bipartisan way because he has never given any thought to how to compromise his ideology. Never having been in a leadership position he has never had to try. In Illinois and in the US senate he has been an ideologue and never compromised on a single vote. He doesn't understand how to work with anyone just how to run them over.

I would sincerely love to s... (Below threshold)
JustRuss:

I would sincerely love to see a third party President. But I don't think it will happen, even with this "landslide" going on, most people are not bothered enough to worry about the issues as long as "their party" wins.

Which means the only hope the third party has of affecting the 2012 election is to pull votes from the left and enough independents and republicans to make a statement.

Our two party system is failing, we really really need new blood and a new party, or properly remake the Republican party in a Constitutional Conservative mold.

Great analogy! Before the ... (Below threshold)
TOhio:

Great analogy! Before the big tsunami hit, there were warnings about the possibility of it happening, but these warnings were disregarded and dismissed because people thought that a big tsunami was impossible. Obviously, they were wrong.

The anger that I feel (and lots of others who are in the tea party movement) is real and getting bigger day by day. The fact that Obama, Reid, Pelosi are ramming health care down my throat makes me hopping mad! On top of this, we've got record-breaking deficits that are getting ignored, a President dithering on sending troops to a war zone in desperate need of them, and czars with Maoist, Marxist, NAMBLA supporting views doing who knows what behind-the-scenes to ruin the country.

Any of these problems alone would be enough, but together they are outrageoous!

Obama is walking the Democratic Party to its doom.

I really think the party th... (Below threshold)
Eric:

I really think the party that seriously and sincerely makes the case for term limits in Congress will become a juggernaut. People I meet across both parties are tired of the same old song and dance out of both parties. They are tired of the same people getting elected over and over again. They are tired of the corruption that has settled into the system by the perpetually incumbent of both parties.

The Culture of Corruption is not a party its an institution called Congress.

The problem is that not onl... (Below threshold)
jim m:

The problem is that not only is Obama running the democrat party off a cliff, but the GOP is running to keep up with them.

Worse is that they have so deformed the political system to virtually prohibit the successful formation of another party.

Regardless of any anti-demo... (Below threshold)
LiberalNitemare:

Regardless of any anti-democratic back lash that is coming, we will still be stuck with the El Obamas policies when it happens.

yay.

If you remember it was the ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

If you remember it was the candidacy of H. Ross Perot that gave Bill Clinton the eventual win by splitting the conservative vote between Bush and Perot. Let that be a lesson to all conservatives. It's highly unlikely that some third party is going to win the White house in 2012, but they sure could siphon off enough votes to give Obama the win. If you don't want to see Obama reelected you better hold your nose and support whatever Republican the party can come up with. Ron Paul needs to craw under a rock for 2012.

BTW, Perot suspended his campaign in the midst of the battle just like McCain did. In both cases that move cost them lots of votes. Hopefully that lesson has been learned. Also, we don't want a candidate who's self degrading, you know, like McCain saying he didn't know much about economics. Neither does Obama, but he didn't go around saying it.

Being Obama will be the Democratic candidate in 2012, one of the tactics Democrats will use in 2012 is cross voting to give a weak Republican candidate an early lead in the primaries. The Republican party needs to find a way to counter that tactic or we could end up with McCain again

Yes,Lets all watch... (Below threshold)
JustRuss:

Yes,

Lets all watch in wonder as the third party candidate gets all sorts of free coverage and airtime and is not shunned at all by the media this time, only to be stabbed in the back as elections near.

I can almost envision it.

"Who will mount the tiger a... (Below threshold)
Davidt:

"Who will mount the tiger and attempt to ride?"

Well, let's see.

Which woman, errrr, I mean, which of those being named as possible Presidential contenders is a fearless, dedicated authentic conservative and has been speaking out on all the same issues as the tea partiers, has been espousing the same solutions to those issues as the tea partiers, has the name recognition, star power, charisma, massive loyal base, and massive money raising capablity, and is in a position to take control of the GOP the way Reagan did without going third party?

Lets all watch ... (Below threshold)
Lets all watch in wonder as the third party candidate gets all sorts of free coverage and airtime and is not shunned at all by the media this time, only to be stabbed in the back as elections near.
That's pretty much what happened to John McCain in 2008.

Anyone to the right of Arlen Specter who ever starts getting positive media coverage, might as well just throw himself under the bus.

Years ago after I had a couple of failed local election campaigns, the next election cycle came around and the people who were asking me if I was going to run again, were all liberals. I got the hint right away.

I dont know? I voted for Fo... (Below threshold)
914:

I dont know? I voted for Forbes because He made lots of common sense.. I voted for Perot for the same reasons. Clean up the cesspool in DC. Stockdale was kinda nutty but I vote top of the ticket with the exception of last election where I voted for vice president Sara.

I loved Perots pie charts and His referral to the sucking sound coming from D.C. & South of the border. It sucks to be stuck with the status quo time and time again and if they push Hucka fee up there again I dont know what I will do? Im sure as HELL voting against the current thief in chief though regardless of who is picked.

If you remember it... (Below threshold)
Mike G in Corvallis:
If you remember it was the candidacy of H. Ross Perot that gave Bill Clinton the eventual win by splitting the conservative vote between Bush and Perot. Let that be a lesson to all conservatives. It's highly unlikely that some third party is going to win the White house in 2012, but they sure could siphon off enough votes to give Obama the win. If you don't want to see Obama reelected you better hold your nose and support whatever Republican the party can come up with. Ron Paul needs to craw under a rock for 2012.

Yes! Pay attention, people!

On the other hand, perhaps we should be doing all we can to encourage that nice Mrs. Clinton to mount an independent campaign. I've heard she isn't all that fond of Mr. Obama.

What's striking ab... (Below threshold)
Neo:
What's striking about this inside look at Obama is how being inside gets you nowhere. It is virtually the same as being outside. What's also striking about this movie is its lack of arc. Obama is always golden, always going to win and always does.
All image .. all the time. His fall from heaven is going to be ugly.
1. Jonah Goldberg is always... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

1. Jonah Goldberg is always wrong.

2. Goldberg's sideways claim of political benefits globally for his, uh, side of things as inheritors of Perot's last belated ocean swell of votes, placing himself sneakily in the, gulp!, populist camp, is comically betrayed by Goldberg' reliance on his fellow at the communal birdbath of neoconservatism, Ponnuru of National Review, to go "Yeah! rabble-rabble!"

Or is Goldberg backing up Ponnuru...hard to tell...National Review is an angry chicken coop...Does anyone have a feather detection device?

Sure, a small matter, but significant of a shrinking planet of thought.

3. That Jonah's note is done in code foretells a future bleak and cold.

1. bryanD is always right.<... (Below threshold)
914:

1. bryanD is always right.

"All image .. all the time.... (Below threshold)
914:

"All image .. all the time. His fall from heaven is going to be ugly"

He already made that trip!




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