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White House Battle With Fox News Backfires

Ruth Marcus writes over at the PostPartisan blog at the Washington Post that the White House is appearing "weak, unable to take Harry Truman's advice and just deal with the heat". In a moment of sheer clarity Marcus fires this zinger that somehow got past the Post editorial goalie:

Sure, it's legitimate -- and standard practice -- to dispense access and coveted interviews to favored reporters and news outlets. So is subtly doing the opposite: letting a reporter who's filed a tough story know that he or she is in the doghouse by leaking a scoop to a competitor. The Bush administration routinely briefed conservative columnists before a big presidential speech; the Obama White House tends to call in ideological sympathizers. This is the way the game is played.

Where the White House has gone way overboard is in its decision to treat Fox as an outright enemy and to go public with the assault. Imagine the outcry if the Bush administration had pulled a similar hissy fit with MSNBC. "Opinion journalism masquerading as news," White House communications director Anita Dunn declared of Fox. Certainly Fox tends to report its news with a conservative slant -- but has anyone at the White House clicked over to MSNBC recently?

There is a common thread running through the sak cloth donned by the wailing Axelrod, Dunn and Emmanuel. They are seen by viewers now as whiners and complainers, attributes that don't fit well with the triumphant, all powerful masters of the universe persona they embraced a mere eight months ago. As has been mentioned before, one of the beneficial effects of a brutal, hard won campaign experience is that it sharpens a politician's thinking and reflexes, to say nothing of toughening the hide.

The attack on Fox News by the Obama administration has had the exact opposite effect expected by the Obama White House. It has made Obama look smaller, increased Fox's ratings and exposed Fox's competition to scrutiny and ridicule. Skilled political operators would never have attempted to win this battle, but then again, we are seeing more evidence every day that there isn't much there "there" with this White House.


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I'm not as sanguine that ... (Below threshold)
Dr Carlo Lombardi:

I'm not as sanguine that the WH and it's goon squad is defeating itself.
I believe that they're supremely confident that the changing demographics , entrenched and expanding entitlement mentality illegals voting and traditional voter fraud will keep Dear Reader in power beyond 2012 with congressional majorities.
They also have correctly judged Fox News competitors as being totally in the tank for them and that they are ideological brethren who lack any integrity and who will gladly join in the pogrom against Fox news.
They don't envision a down side to going the Hugo Chavez route against media critics and they may be right.

Obama and his administratio... (Below threshold)
Eric:

Obama and his administration are the biggest bunch of crybabies I've ever seen in politics. How is the country supposed to have confidence in a President who appears afraid of one news organization?

These ARE crybabies and the... (Below threshold)
Cat K:

These ARE crybabies and they are also supremely confident spoiled willful children who fully expect to get their way.
Stopping them before Free Speech is eradicated in the USA will be less painful than after.
Once the internet is neutral (a euphamism for cleansed of anything against the Obama administration) - What do you think the options will be for those who love free speech and true freedom?

They have been mentioning p... (Below threshold)
SylviaSoraya:

They have been mentioning profit motive as though it were a bad thing, more often.
Profit is bad, everyone should have equal wealth, no one should get ahead. This is the message they have been feeding us for the last three years.

Somewhere in this whole vilification of Fox News by the White House I heard a Democrat analyst say something about Fox and profit motive. Well Duh!!

In terms of the health care industry, and certainly pharmaceutical companies profit is apparently a bad thing.

How often do we hear the term "big corporations" with negative intonation? The topic of CEO bonuses being "too big", we can't award success.

The structure of the penalty for non participation of employers in health insurance will penalize profit.

The left is setting us up for the following logic:
Profit is bad therefore Capitalism is bad.
Capitalism is bad therefore Socialism is good.

That's the end game folks!!

Cat K:Remember "Red ... (Below threshold)
codekeyguy:

Cat K:
Remember "Red Dawn"?

Obama is just going to make... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Obama is just going to make the folks at Fox work harder to uncover more and more of this administration's unseemly statements, actions and connections. The Bush administration suffered from insiders revealing secrets to the New York Times, but such an insider in the Obama administration knows the NYT can't be trusted to challenge Obama, so they'll go to Fox News. Does Axelrod really think other news organizations will keep a lid on such stories? It just shows how stupid this administration is.

Beck has made the whole lam... (Below threshold)
bill-tb:

Beck has made the whole lame-stream media look like a flock of defrocked chickens.

Yet another example showing... (Below threshold)
Hank:

Yet another example showing that Obama and his advisors are in over their heads.

With the incredible lack of achievement from this administration, they decide to go after a news outlet?

Truly amateur hour at the White House.

The President likes naming ... (Below threshold)
kathie:

The President likes naming names and calling people out.....well Mr. President, consider yourself called out. Thank you Glen Beck and Fox news.

I guess we have our name fo... (Below threshold)
Rich:

I guess we have our name for him Baby in Chief

I don't see this as whining... (Below threshold)
bobdog:

I don't see this as whining or crybaby behavior at all. It seems darker than that to me, an administration so supremely confident in their extreme agenda that they can't imagine anybody even thinking about disagreeing with them. Anyone who does disagree can't possibly understand the intellectual superiority of their view of America. How could anybody possibly disagree unless something is wrong with them?

I may be wrong about this, but that does a better job of explaining the systematic disdain they heap on their detractors, such as rednecks, racists, NASCAR moms, Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, talk radio, conservative bloggers, and Fox News. The same applies to any and all opponents of their heavy-handed legislative schemes like the Stimulus bill, Card Check, the handover of General Motors to the United Auto Workers, huge federal payoffs to ACORN, Cap and Trade, and certainly their assimilation of America's healthcare system.

Underneath it all is a huge dollop of toxic smugness that blots out any reasoned opposition. We see that personality type here every day from a handful of predictably condescending posters. It's not enough to simply disagree; the undercurrent of most of these posts is condescension. You wouldn't disagree with their intellectually superior views, if only we weren't so stoopid. Visit Media Matters or Huffington or any of the other hard left religious blogs and it's hard to miss it, at least the way I see it.

The president and the overly aggressive political strategists that advise him seem to be unable to cope with any legitimate opposition and treat it as a dangerous threat to Obama. Ergo, it must be dangerous to "America", which is code for his half of America.

The most dangerous dog is not simply aggressive -- the one to fear is both aggressive and insecure, because they can't be trusted. It's the fearful, sneaky dog you have to watch.

re: 11I hope O man... (Below threshold)
epador:

re: 11

I hope O man is more a Pomeranian and you are a sly bobdog. Pom's yip and yip at the slightest provocation, think they are big dogs, and whine in a high pitched scream if you slap them or they're nipped.

Poms are also all about ima... (Below threshold)
epador:

Poms are also all about image: lots of upkeep for their handlers, but if they get wet, they look like drowned rats.

The Obama goons remind me o... (Below threshold)
Stan25:

The Obama goons remind me of an old, but still apt saying: If you pee like a puppy; you can't run with the big dogs. Well the Obama people are still peeing like puppies and they will be until they are kicked out of office

errr make that You can't ru... (Below threshold)
Stan25:

errr make that You can't run with the big dogs, if you pee like a puppy.

A fine Whine usually takes ... (Below threshold)

A fine Whine usually takes more than 8 months to age!

The story of "The Dog in th... (Below threshold)
recovering liberal democrat:

The story of "The Dog in the Manger" fits the attitude of the weenies in the W.H.

Chris Wallace's role in orc... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Chris Wallace's role in orchestrating the Dunn smear has got to be a major embarrassment for Fox (if they're capable of shame that is).

Adrian Browne: "Chris Wa... (Below threshold)

Adrian Browne: "Chris Wallace's role in orchestrating the Dunn smear has got to be a major embarrassment for Fox"

Ah...Adrian has apparently seen the "secret" footage of the High School commencment speech which clearly shows Chris Wallace operating the teleprompter for Anita Dunn! All her lip smacking and cud-chewing in the video is because she is SHOCKED to find all the references to Mao!!

Adrian...has Rocky been knocking you around lately...is that it?

Like all bullies and thugs,... (Below threshold)

Like all bullies and thugs, he picks on those he deems less powerful than himself and cowers before those over whom he has no power. Expect three more years of his belittling, attacking, and smearing American citizens while he snivels before and fawns at the feet of Ahmadinezhad and his ilk.

We are BO's chosen enemies, and I can think of no higher honor.

The Dunn smear? The Dunn sm... (Below threshold)
recovering liberal democrat:

The Dunn smear? The Dunn smear? The question is whether the W.H. is capable of embarrassment or shame for having people like this as spokespersons. I think not.

Usually a serious news orga... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Usually a serious news organization's senior "correspondent" doesn't participate in actually creating the "news" and then turning around and "reporting" on it but perhaps Fox is just cutting edge . . . or something.

Oh dear! And now it looks like Greta Van Susteren is trashing Glenn Beck.

Shorter Adrian: presenting ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Shorter Adrian: presenting the complete remarks, via video, in context, of any lefty constitutes a smear.

Adrian: "Usually a serious ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Adrian: "Usually a serious news organization's senior "correspondent" doesn't participate in actually creating the "news" and then turning around and "reporting" on it but perhaps Fox is just cutting edge . . . or something."

Hmmm.

Dan Rather.

"TANG memo's".

Ring a bell???

Adrian: "Usually a serious ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Adrian: "Usually a serious news organization's senior "correspondent" doesn't participate in actually creating the "news" and then turning around and "reporting" on it but perhaps Fox is just cutting edge . . . or something."

Hmmm.

CNN.

"Tailwind".

Ring a bell?

Adrian: "Usually a serious ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Adrian: "Usually a serious news organization's senior "correspondent" doesn't participate in actually creating the "news" and then turning around and "reporting" on it but perhaps Fox is just cutting edge . . . or something."

Hmmm.

NBC.

Truck side-impact fires.

Ring a bell?

If you can't take the heat,... (Below threshold)
Hangtown Bob:

If you can't take the heat, tell the "stove" that it's not really a STOVE!!!!

Adrian: "Usually a serious ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Adrian: "Usually a serious news organization's senior "correspondent" doesn't participate in actually creating the "news" and then turning around and "reporting" on it but perhaps Fox is just cutting edge . . . or something."

Hmmm.

ABC.

Food Lion "sting".

Ring a bell?

Halloween is just ar... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:


Halloween is just around the corner so let's have a witch hunt! And remember, if she burns that means she's NOT a witch.

Adrian: "Usually a serious ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Adrian: "Usually a serious news organization's senior "correspondent" doesn't participate in actually creating the "news" and then turning around and "reporting" on it but perhaps Fox is just cutting edge . . . or something."

Hmmm.

The entire, worldwide leftwing media complex(in particular, France 2, BBC, NBC's loathsome Richard Engel, etc)

Mohammed al-Dura "incident".

Ring a bell?

Adrian: "Usually a serious ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Adrian: "Usually a serious news organization's senior "correspondent" doesn't participate in actually creating the "news" and then turning around and "reporting" on it but perhaps Fox is just cutting edge . . . or something."

Hmmm.

CNN stringer Dennis Zaki.

"Todd and Sarah Palin to divorce.

Ring a bell?

Honestly, I hope all news ... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Honestly, I hope all news organizations and reporters are as open about their partisanship as Fox. Why bother with any pretense?

It is unseemly for the Whit... (Below threshold)
James H:

It is unseemly for the White House to target a single news outlet.

Adrian: "Honestly,....."</p... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Adrian: "Honestly,....."

Stop. Right there. You've already jumped the shark.

Time for you to crawl back into your biased, partially state-funded PBS-induced state of suspended-animation.

Shorter shorter lefty (ie A... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Shorter shorter lefty (ie Adrian): "Let a thousand MSNBC's bloom!!"

When it comes to media bias... (Below threshold)
BluesHarper:

When it comes to media bias I which everyone saw it the way you do. In my little world people see FOX news and myself as whining. What they hear on ABC, CBS, NBC is the truth and FOX news is lying and crying. I hear things like, "They can't all (ABC, CBS & NBC) be lying". FOX news is so over the top that it's hard to take them seriously. I can't blame people for thinking conservatives are nuts, if you watch FOX news. The same can be said for the other side, but at least ABC, CBS & NBC have calm news reporters. You don't see all the fake drama as you do on both sides of the extreme spectrum. Sorry, I don't know what channel is the liberal channel because I don't/can't watch it - I'll puke. If FOX news could report things straight up, I think that would help our cause.

Concern Troll BluesHarper: ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Concern Troll BluesHarper: "If FOX news could report things straight up, I think that would help our cause."

Clearly a concern troll. What's the "tell"?

The willingness to conflate the opinion shows on Fox with the news reporting on Fox.

Gee, I guess we should judge the news reporting of all organizations with their opinion pieces, right?

Oh, wait, that rule only applies to Fox

Thanks for your input Moby.

Here is the full quote -- B... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Here is the full quote -- Beck clipped the bold part:

"The third lesson and tip actually comes from two of my favorite political philosophers: Mao Tse-tung and Mother Theresa -- not often coupled with each other, but the two people I turn to most to basically deliver a simple point which is 'you're going to make choices; you're going to challenge; you're going to say why not; you're going to figure out how to do things that have never been done before."

I guess they couldn't run the whole clip because of time restraints.

The FoxNews Dunn Smear® is in the same category as the Fake Birth Certificate story.

Poor addled, media-matters ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Poor addled, media-matters retarded Adrian.

One of Anita Dunn's "favorite political philosophers" is a mass-murderer responsible for the deaths of 40-70 million.

40-70 million.

40-70 million.

40-70 million.

Sinking in yet?

40-70 million.

40-70 million.

Hey, gotta break a few eggs to create a left-wing paradise omelet, right?

one of Anita Dunn's "...fav... (Below threshold)
Drago:

one of Anita Dunn's "...favorite political philosophers...."

Mass Murderer.

40-70 million.

40-70 million.

40-70 million.

40-70 million.They... (Below threshold)
Drago:

40-70 million.

They probably had it comin', right Adrian?

Mao.

A hero to the left.

Then, and now.

40-70 million.

40-70 million.Too ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

40-70 million.

Too bad there wasn't a New York Times reporter on the scene to "report" that all the deaths in China under Mao weren't really happening.

Hell, a reporter who did that might even have won a Pulitzer Prize. Like Walter Duranty of the New York Times won for lying about the forced starvation of 10-20 million russians under the Stalin.

And Walter's Pulitzer and nameplate are still prominently displayed in the New York Times building in NYC.

The left. So proud of their "liars for protection of the left".

10-20 million in Russia.

Heh. That's chicken feed compared to 40-70 million under Mao.

One of Anita Dunn's "...favorite political philosophers.."

No wonder Adrian feels compelled to protect Anita, who lauds Mao.

John McCain on a blogger co... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

John McCain on a blogger conference call:

The WWS: "How you doin' Senator?"

McCain: "You know Michael, in the words of Chairman Mao, it's always darkest before it's totally black...(laughing)

John McCain in New Hampshire:

Despite the meltdown of his near-bankrupt campaign, McCain showed no outward signs of despair--not even when one reporter impishly asked him whether we have a better chance of winning in Iraq than he does at winning the nomination. I braced for a flash of McCain's famous temper, but instead he just chuckled. "In the words of Chairman Mao, it's always darkest before it's black," McCain cracked.

John McCain on Letterman:

"I think we had some difficulties and righted the ship," McCain told Letterman. "For a while there, I was reminded of the words of Chairman Mao, who said it's always darkest before it's totally black."

Poor lefties, if only Che c... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Poor lefties, if only Che could have been given the opportunity to murder millions (instead of just hundreds and thousands), he could have been an even bigger hero for the left.

Like Mao is for Dunn.

But remember, it's wrong to point out that Dunn claims Mao as one of her favorite political philosophers.

Hey, did you notice in Dunn's statement where she mentioned Mother Theresa as well, that Dunn only spoke at length about Mao.

Wow. It's almost like Dunn threw in Mother Theresa as a distractor so she could talk at length about her clear "favorite favorite", Mao.

40-70 million.

Thanks lefties!

"The attack on Fox News by ... (Below threshold)
914:

"The attack on Fox News by the Obama administration has had the exact opposite effect expected by the Obama White House. It has made Obama look smaller,"

Now He looks like a mid grade tiki doll thats been pissed on.

Adriona,

What the hell does McCain have to do with Your boy's failings?

Poor, soros-funded, voice-a... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Poor, soros-funded, voice-actuated robotic talking-point spewing Adrian.

Coughing up quotes that in no way demonstrate that John McCain holds Mao in any regard whatsoever.

BTW, McCain is wrong about the attribution of the quote to Mao, but no biggee.

Poor, poor Adrian.

Defending a woman who calls a mass-murderer one of her "..favorite political philosophers.."

Why, it's almost like Adrian approves of Dunn's affection for Mao's political philosophy, which was nothing more than complete totalitarian power, murder of tens of millions, and known to enjoy the company of thousands of underage girls.

But hey, Mao is a hero of the left. Why quibble about those "messy statistics".

I demand a better quality of troll than Adrian!!

Why do Adrian and the left ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Why do Adrian and the left defend those who demonstrate respect and affection for mass-murdering leftists?

Why?

Why?

40-70 million just not a big deal to you Adrian?

Don't worry, we know you haven't been directed by your talking-point distributors as to how to respond to such a question.

Not to worry young one, we'll hold the question in abeyance until you complete your Sophomore year.

John McCain on a blogger co... (Below threshold)

John McCain on a blogger conference call:

The WWS: "How you doin' Senator?"

McCain: "You know Michael, in the words of Chairman Mao, it's always darkest before it's totally black...(laughing)

John McCain in New Hampshire:

Despite the meltdown of his near-bankrupt campaign, McCain showed no outward signs of despair--not even when one reporter impishly asked him whether we have a better chance of winning in Iraq than he does at winning the nomination. I braced for a flash of McCain's famous temper, but instead he just chuckled. "In the words of Chairman Mao, it's always darkest before it's black," McCain cracked.

John McCain on Letterman:

"I think we had some difficulties and righted the ship," McCain told Letterman. "For a while there, I was reminded of the words of Chairman Mao, who said it's always darkest before it's totally black."
_____________________________

What is this supposed to be, Adrian? The liberal idea of three examples? It's McCain saying the same thing three times, not three separate evocations of Mao as his "favorite political philosopher" to whom he "turns most."

You do understand the not-so-subtle difference between a quip and a declaration of sincere admiration, right?

And you do understand the difference between finding one turn of phrase amusing and actually admiring a man whose political "philosophy" included the murder of 40-70 people in order to secure his position as that country's leader? Or is this too fine a distinction for you?

40-70 million*... (Below threshold)

40-70 million*

Well, gotta run and make mo... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Well, gotta run and make more money.

With any luck, my success will continue and I'll be able to retire RICH!!

Of course, like the Joseph Kennedy did in 1935, my intent will be to establish a Trust in Fiji.

Why Fiji you ask? Good question.

Fiji, because having a Fiji-based Trust will allow me to avoid all IRS scrutiny and inheritance taxes!! Yeah for the Kennedy's!

BTW, when Joseph Kennedy died in 1969, the Kennedy family only paid about .04% in inheritance taxes!! Did you know that!

Wow! And to think that in 1969 Mao had only another 7 years to murder more Chinese, which would allow Anita Dunn's affection for him and his political philosophy to grow and grow!!

It's a shame really. Just think how many more people Mao could have murdered if he had lived longer and how much more incremental respect Anita Dunn would have for him if he had.

Oh well. Que Sera, Sera.

Final thought: Shame on th... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Final thought: Shame on those mean old Fox news opinion guys for daring to mention Anita Dunn's respect for a mass murderer.

On the plus side, it just means more paid work for the Soros-funded trolls like Adrian.

Hooray for lefties defending lefties who like mass-murdering lefties!!!!

Adrian:1. Glenn Be... (Below threshold)
JustRuss:

Adrian:

1. Glenn Beck played everything you bolded more than once on his TV program. I can get you the video links if you like.

2. John McCain A)attributed the quote to the wrong person and B) did not say that Mao was one of his favorite philosophers and C) Is a doddering old man and a Progressive Republican who I didn't vote for because when you choose between two evils you still get evil in the end.

Adrian, what does the Anita... (Below threshold)
Eric:

Adrian, what does the Anita Dunn's quote about Mao have to do with the fact that the administration has declared war on a media organization?

Whether you like Fox or not, this is something that should concern all Americans who believe in the First Amendment. A branch of the United States Government is attacking a legitimate news organization. The First Amendment doesn't protect liberal news organizations it protects everyone.

Remember the precedent being set by Obama against Fox can be used in the future by a Republican president against MSNBC.

Barry's "glass jaw" will be... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Barry's "glass jaw" will be his undoing yet.

Eric: "Whether you like Fox... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Eric: "Whether you like Fox or not, this is something that should concern all Americans who believe in the First Amendment."

Eric, what you need to understand is that the left is not concerned about the First Amendment for all Americans.

They are only concerned with power. The power they seek REQUIRES them to silence any critique, idea or thought that contradicts their world view.

Witness the innumerable "hate speech" rules on college campuses.

Witness the "hate crimes" legislation that seeks to penalize only those "thoughts" viewed as anathema to the left.

Witness the many demonstrations by the left where the chant "No Free Speech for Fascists" is ubiquitous. Followed closely by the description of all conservatives as fascists.

They want total power. Without opposition. They will be happy with nothing less.

Not only is Adrienne off to... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

Not only is Adrienne off topic and incorrect, but he is repeating herself on comment threads here.

At least try to be an interesting troll, AB.

It's no wonder that only 20... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

It's no wonder that only 20% of Americans identify themselves as "Republicans" now. That probably translates to 7% of women.

sad

You do understand the no... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

You do understand the not-so-subtle difference between a quip and a declaration of sincere admiration, right?

The left has a singular problem with understanding anything of the sort, Fuzzy. They also have a problem with when something was uttered and the context involved - anything they find objectionable is trotted out on parade as immediately relevant whether it happened thirty days or thirty years before, stripped of context and shined and polished and propped up to serve the function they wish it to - whether it was meant that way or not.

Thus, Dunn's comment was exactly equivalent to McCain's - despite their entirely different circumstances.

In a way, you have to admire their insanity - it is certainly constant and unvarying in its direction and intensity, regardless of whether it ends up in the place they desire or not.

Adrian, McCain is exactly t... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

Adrian, McCain is exactly the same as Dunn? I mean Dunn called Mao one of "my favorite political philosophers" and McCain actually referred to him.

Glad you've pointed out that glaring comparison to us. I should have voted for Mao!

Alinsky's #13 strikes again... (Below threshold)

Alinsky's #13 strikes again- this is getting pretty predictable. To my recollection, he's yet to gain anything from them.

Still more attempts to isolate and neutralize his fiercest opponents like Rush, while serving as a lesson to the rest of us reactionary riff-raff.

But it looks like Obama's MSM toadies are kinda cool to the idea of piling-on here/isolating Fox like Team Obama told them to; finally they all see a frightening precedent in this... and joining Team Obama for this book-burning would take our Yellow Press still another notch down... to "brown" status, LOL.

Barry continues his downwar... (Below threshold)
Pink Slip Time:

Barry continues his downward spiral ever since being humiliated on the world stage by the great Olympic fiasco. This administration seems more desperate by the day. Axelrod, Emmanuel, and Dunn should each get a pink-slip for all their disasterous public relations buffoonery.

To expand above (at 33): I... (Below threshold)
James H:

To expand above (at 33): I have no love for Fox News. But that doesn't mean I think President Obama, or any presidential administration, for that matter, should lower itself into a public pissing contest with a single media outlet. It's undignified, and it only aggrandizes the media outlet.

Besides, that's what Media Matters is for ...

Hmmm. I would credit Fox wi... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Hmmm. I would credit Fox with being genuinely offended by the Obama administration's singling-out of the chickenhawk channel, except for the fact that Fox News has been conjuring up self-pity, viz. Obama-won't-come-to-be-grilled-by-me-on-my-teevee-show (O'Reilly, Hannity) since the first week of the 2008 primaries. And, of course, Fox News' them-versus-us/YOU! persona has been flamingly extant since the Flag Lapel Pin War of 2001-2004, if not earlier.

Note: Roger Ailes (the original balloon boy) is president and *bRaInz* of Fox News. Word.

Request: Fox News' alternately laughing-off/ screeching over Anita Dunn. Fox Radio promises Ms. Dunn exhibits drug abusal characteristics, namely involunatry "serpentine tongue" movements. Video seems to not bear this out. Is there a JUICY video I've missed-- or is Fox News much more desperate and hurt than we might imagine.

P.S. Ms. Dunn is clearly horsey-faced. That doesn't count! I want "serpent" :-)

BryanD -Dude, if y... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

BryanD -

Dude, if you're looking at Dunn for a 'juicy' video - well...

(Shudder)

Not that there's anything WRONG with that! Takes all kinds, ya know?

Google's your friend, and ought to be able to fulfill your desires with the 'safe search filter' turned off...

Shorter bryanD: "Why can't ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Shorter bryanD: "Why can't Fox be objective like MSNBC?"

bryanD:"Is there a JUICY vi... (Below threshold)
Eric:

bryanD:"Is there a JUICY video I've missed"

She does seem to stick her tongue out a lot in this video.

bryanD: "or is Fox News muc... (Below threshold)
Drago:

bryanD: "or is Fox News much more desperate and hurt than we might imagine."

Well, no, Fox does not appear desperate.

If they were, they would probably just make up quotes out of thin air and attribute them to liberals, or generate fake memo's to attack the administration.

Any of that ring a bell bryanD?

bryanD:"Is there a JUICY vi... (Below threshold)
Drago:

bryanD:"Is there a JUICY video I've missed"

If it's not on Media Matters, it's very likely you have missed it.

Don't worry bryanD, you and your State-run media pals got their "pat on the head" from Axelrod and Emanuel over the weekend.

Here's a cookie.....

Adrian: "It's no wonder tha... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Adrian: "It's no wonder that only 20% of Americans identify themselves as "Republicans" now."

Hmmm, now why would Adrian make this assertion and yet, somehow, inexplicably, "forget" to provide a link which would validate this claim?

Maybe it's because if he/she had, it would become clear that the ABC/Wash Post poll actually included only 20% Republicans.

Yes, that's right. Only 20% Republicans.

No wonder only 20% of the poll respondents identified themselves as Republicans!

That also means that 80% of the polled sample identified as Dems or Independents. And even with that skewed sample, Obambi only received a 55% approval (assuming we can even trust the questions used by the OFFICIALLY APPROVED NEWS SERVICE (ABC/WASH POST) OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION).

Nice try Adrian.

Back to media matters for you!

bryanD - "Fox News has ... (Below threshold)
Marc:

bryanD - "Fox News has been conjuring up self-pity, viz. Obama-won't-come-to-be-grilled-by-me-on-my-teevee-show (O'Reilly, Hannity) since the first week of the 2008 primaries."

Oh gee look he's lying out his ass. Again.
The first four presidential primaries were held the first month of 2008.

January 3--Iowa caucus
January 5--Wyoming caucus (Republican only)
January 8--New Hampshire primary
January 15--Michigan primary

Your LUV interest appeared on the O'Reilly Factor on Oct, 4, 2008.

No worries, you were only off by 9months.

"This ABC News/Was... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

"This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone Oct. 15-18, 2009, among a RANDOM national sample of 1,004 adults, including landline and cell-phone-only respondents. Results for the full sample have a 3.5-point error margin."


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Who wouldn't want to be part of the excitement of rooting out Sprites, Goblins, Hobgoblins, and Leprechauns in the Obama Administration?

This has backfired badly on... (Below threshold)
jim m:

This has backfired badly on Obama and his next step will be to double down on his mistake. I bet he bars Fox from the White House press room and all briefings throughout the executive branch. The bought and paid for media will just roll over and wet themselves in submission.

After all if they are not a legitimate news organization there is no point in allowing them to have press credentials.

He will then go after anyone who questions that move.

The critics are right, he has shown himself to be small and petty (which he is).

It also shows him to be the little Marxist tyrant that he aspires to be. He wants to control the media and when he can't he wants to disappear them.

Last it is also becoming clear that he is predictable about following the Alinsky playbook. Had he not been so blatant a devotee it wouldn't be so obvious what he was about. However, he has telegraphed his philosophy and it is becoming increasingly easy to predict his reactions to the opposition and any criticism. Everything comes straight out of rules for radicals. The only criticism is that Alinsky calls for continually changing tactics and keeping the message fresh. He fails dramatically at hat as he has become monotonous in his whining about Fox. There is nothing new in what the administration is saying, just the same old, "Fox is mean" meme.

Adrian,Responsible... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Adrian,

Responsible polling agencies and people who examine the "science" of poling will tell you that a so-called random poll does not guarantee a representative sample.

Obama won with 53% of the vote, not 80%. Historically, people identifying with the GOP has been in the mid 30's and with the Dems in the upper 30's. A 4 to 8 point spread is reasonable. When you see polls with spreads in the double digits you know that he results are BS. It has shown that way in election polling where the polls with a more accurate representation of the parties predict the outcome more closely.

It has also been shown that if you conduct your poll on weekends that you will capture fewer GOP participants, so how you conduct the poll is important.

Lastly, most polls will take the raw numbers and then correct them for what should be a representative sample of party distribution.

The fact that you cannot tell the difference between random and representative tells everyone that you are completely ignorant about how polling works.

Adrian,Trust me on t... (Below threshold)
Zombie Richard Nixon:

Adrian,
Trust me on this one.
Didn't work for me with the Washington Post.
Not happening with President Cry Baby.
BTW if we meet on the street, not to worry your quite safe.
If you get my drift.
Braiiiinnns.

Adrian: "Usually a seri... (Below threshold)
Marc:

Adrian: "Usually a serious news organization's senior "correspondent" doesn't participate in actually creating the "news" and then turning around and "reporting" on it but perhaps Fox is just cutting edge . . . or something."

Hmmm.

NBC.

Attempted to use "Muslim stunt doubles" at a NASCAR event in effort to find knuckle-dragging wingnuts in the crowd.

Ring a bell?

P.S. asswipe adrian, in a comment allegedly giving a "full" Beck quote why did you leave out the part about her "favorite philosophers"?

Adrian: "Usually a seri... (Below threshold)
Marc:

Adrian: "Usually a serious news organization's senior "correspondent" doesn't participate in actually creating the "news" and then turning around and "reporting" on it but perhaps Fox is just cutting edge . . . or something."

Hmmm.

NBC Dateline.

A well documented staging of a vehicle crash test that was rigged to get a particular outcome. As part of that scam Dateline concealed from the public key elements - the hidden rockets, the over-filled tank and the loose gas cap that rendered their expose complete and utter BULSHIT

Ring a bell, nitwit?

L. O. L.The... (Below threshold)
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L. O. L.


The traditional rules haven't applied for many years now. That old cliche "Don't pick a fight with a guy who buys ink by the barrel" was clever in 1909, 1959, even 1989.

This is 2009.

The entire "war" with FNC is happening on cable (mostly on FNC) and online - mainly right-wing blogs. The media is so fragmented that the old 20th century cliches just aren't good enough anymore. And take note of who is whining the loudest - dinosaur media like NYT, ABC and WaPo. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! They have no clue why they've lost market share for the last 30 years and they're still clueless in their MSM beltway bubble.

Right-wingers have howled about the "liberal media" for decades and now they're pissy because they've gotten a taste of their own medicine.

Claiming that the WH is scared doesn't make it so. Right-wing hacks like FNC don't get a free pass anymore. This is the new normal.

Get used to it.

I thought Obama would be ab... (Below threshold)
johnny b.:

I thought Obama would be above this kind of bullying. Sounds very "Animal House-esque" to me.

Definitely not what America is about.

If Obama can succeed in what seems to be his attempt at silencing Fox News, that would really mean, I think, we are on the road to tyranny.

Obama and his administra... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Obama and his administration are the biggest bunch of crybabies I've ever seen in politics. How is the country supposed to have confidence in a President who appears afraid of one news organization?

I recall Tim Robbins words...
...something about a "chill wind"...hm...

But, yeah, what a bunch of fucking babies. No wonder this fits them so well...

http://www.bigoo.ws/Images/funny-clip/Baby-Crying-DEMOCRATIC-PARTY-223999.htm

77. Posted by this form lef... (Below threshold)
justpassingthrough:

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What's also is the new normal is left not being able to shut up critics.
Get use to it.

Here is the full quote -... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Here is the full quote -- Beck clipped the bold part:

"The third lesson and tip actually comes from two of my favorite political philosophers: Mao Tse-tung and Mother Theresa -- not often coupled with each other, but the two people I turn to most to basically deliver a simple point which is 'you're going to make choices; you're going to challenge; you're going to say why not; you're going to figure out how to do things that have never been done before."

And this bolsters your debate how...Mao may have thought like that, but that's not what Mao is remembered for.

That's about as specious as "Hitler suppored the people with the buildling of the Volkswagon...oh, and he made the trains run on time (especially to Poland)."

There's a reason Mother T and Mao aren't coupled together, Ms Dunn...

I thought Obama would be... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

I thought Obama would be above this kind of bullying. Sounds very "Animal House-esque" to me.

I assume you are referring to Neidermeyer and his gang, yes? Because I'd rather have Blutarsky behind me taking the fight to the Germans in Pearl Harbour than this milquetoast sitting at 1600 Penn Ave.

Right-wingers have howle... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Right-wingers have howled about the "liberal media" for decades and now they're pissy because they've gotten a taste of their own medicine.

Pissy? Heh. Actually, I'm glad to see the big media prove once and for all the charge. Fox just got a ratings boost, good for them. Even HuffPo can't hide that fact:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/30/fox-news-dominates-3q-200_n_304260.html

The traditional rules ha... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

The traditional rules haven't applied for many years now. That old cliche "Don't pick a fight with a guy who buys ink by the barrel" was clever in 1909, 1959, even 1989.

This is 2009.

Yep, and there's a lot of media that requires no ink whatsoever (blogs, internet media). NYT, et al still have to buy the ink, but their readership is way way down.

Indeed, it's a whole new world...

TFLB: "The media is so frag... (Below threshold)
Drago:

TFLB: "The media is so fragmented that the old 20th century cliches just aren't good enough anymore"

hmmm, I've seen this in several places. Looks like the new and improved Soros-funded talking points are out!

TFLB: "Claiming that the WH is scared doesn't make it so. Right-wing hacks like FNC don't get a free pass anymore. This is the new normal."

Uh-huh. I wonder if Van Jones and the wonderful folks at Acorn agree?

Something tells me they wouldn't.

Can you think of a reason why that might be?

No?

What if you try really, really hard?

Barrys got a glass jaw, Bar... (Below threshold)
914:

Barrys got a glass jaw, Barrys got a glass jaw.. Na na na na nah...

ha ha ha ha Good one GarandFan.

Notice how the trolls showe... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:

Notice how the trolls showed up for this post but not to defend Rangel. I am amazed that whoever is paying them hasn't realized how poor their results are.

Seriously trolls, what's the point? You are only making the left look bad.

Ha, ha, just kidding. Keep it up, ya'll are really doing a good job, trolls.

Real bad combination detect... (Below threshold)

Real bad combination detected in that empty-galabiyah glove-puppet: Amateurishness, wrapped in naïveté, inside credulity.

That is, his lights sometimes seem lit but he's not at home. He's a vacuous droid with serious abandonment issues and has never had an original idea. Combine his own defects of character with those of his as-loathesome and fearsome "spouse' and you're left with a pair of imbecilic and flagellant tabula rasa, upon whom, for decades, a parade of America's Least Wanted have projected their hatreds.

I think that obama and his ... (Below threshold)

I think that obama and his administration have no idea regarding this issue. They are crybabies and involves in politics. They have no confidence in a president.





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