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Going Postal? Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?

Tunku Varadarajan has a modest "truth in advertising" suggestion:

'Going Muslim'
America after Fort Hood.

By Tunku Varadarajan
Forbes

"Going postal" is a piquant American phrase that describes the phenomenon of violent rage in which a worker--archetypically a postal worker--"snaps" and guns down his colleagues.

As the enormity of the actions of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan sinks in, we must ask whether we are confronting a new phenomenon of violent rage, one we might dub--disconcertingly--"Going Muslim." This phrase would describe the turn of events where a seemingly integrated Muslim-American--a friendly donut vendor in New York, say, or an officer in the U.S. Army at Fort Hood--discards his apparent integration into American society and elects to vindicate his religion in an act of messianic violence against his fellow Americans. This would appear to be what happened in the case of Maj. Hasan.

The difference between "going postal," in the conventional sense, and "going Muslim," in the sense that I suggest, is that there would not necessarily be a psychological "snapping" point in the case of the imminently violent Muslim; instead, there could be a calculated discarding of camouflage--the camouflage of integration--in an act of revelatory catharsis. In spite of suggestions by some who know him that he had a history of "harassment" as a Muslim in the army, Maj. Hasan did not "snap" in the "postal" manner. He gave away his possessions on the morning of his day of murder. He even gave away--to a neighbor--a packet of frozen broccoli that he did not wish to see go to waste, even as he mapped in his mind the laying waste of lives at Fort Hood. His was a meticulous, even punctilious "departure."

Indeed.

Hat Tip: Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds, who enourages his readers to "Read the whole thing."

I concur.


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Premeditated murder by a pi... (Below threshold)
914:

Premeditated murder by a piece of garbage.

Get a rope and string em up!

1. Purple Heart should be a... (Below threshold)
JustRuss IT1(SW) USN [reitred]:

1. Purple Heart should be awarded to every service member injured or killed at Ft Hood.

2. This guy had been wearing the white muslim garb of a Martyr for weeks when not in uniform.

3. US Intelligence KNEW he had tried to contact AQ!

I agree that "Going Muslim" is a proper term, however I don't like it as much as "Going Jihadi" as there are peaceful Muslims out there and I don't want to offend them.

I agree with the earlier post about the entire religion seemingly looking the other way though. I just don't want to offend the small percentage who do not by using that term.

Sudden Jihadi Syndrom is a definite real condition.

Colin Powell holds news con... (Below threshold)

Colin Powell holds news conference on Fort Hood Muslim Murderer.

Colin Powell: I'd like to speak today about the poor Muslim who is being attacked by the right wing of my very own party for doing what he thought he needed to do. You see much like Major Nidal Malik Hasan, I too was picked on for my beliefs, but fortunately I had a wonderful wise grandmother to talk to, who stopped me from being a mass murderer. Now I'm going to tell you something my grandmother Lula Tennet would tell me when I was a young child. Sometimes the children at school would be mean to me and call me Colin Crunch,you know like Cap N Crunch, so I would come home crying and wetting up my uniform. Grand ma would fix the gold brushes on my shoulders and say Colin always remember "sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me."

Reporter: What if they hit you with a dictionary?

Colin Powell: You're right. I hadn't thought of that, I knew there was something that would never hurt me; I thought it was a dictionary, I mean words. Thanks for clearing that up.

It's all clear now. The 9/1... (Below threshold)
MPR:

It's all clear now. The 9/11 terrorist snapped and went totally muslim!! After learning how to fly a jetliner but, not land or take-off, and to loaf around and go to strip clubs, only to learn what it will be like to have 72 virgins romp around their tent in paradise, they just couldn't take it and they snapped!! It's our fault! As silly as that all sounds. There is a segment of our society that believes it's true. And, that segment includes Rev. Wrights little disciple.

Hang the bastard with a pig... (Below threshold)

Hang the bastard with a pigfat soaked rope!

Hasan did one other thing t... (Below threshold)
kevino:

Hasan did one other thing that other devote Jihadis do before they attack: he's reported to have visited a strip club (multiple times). He apparently purchased and drank alcohol, too.

Yeah, that's a real devote Muslim.

Of course, I concur with most: shoot him and bury him with a pig.

Ah.Are you serious... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Ah.

Are you seriously contending that the other 1,799,929,845 Muslims will eventually do the same as the frenzied Major?

I think not.

'Jihadist' would be a better fit, but I suppose it's more satisfying to stereotype 21% of the people on the planet.

No, DJ. Just the poor misun... (Below threshold)
bobdog:

No, DJ. Just the poor misunderstood Major. He clearly knew exactly what he was about to do and planned it carefully, which means he was sane and fully intended to do what he did.

Then he tried to murder as many non-muslim people as he could before he was dropped.

It seems to me that Major Hasan was unfairly singling out 89% of the people on the planet.

So often these pukes are ta... (Below threshold)
Madalyn:

So often these pukes are tagged as "snapping". That is not true. If you look at all those mass killings in the workplace, you will find that they were all planned well in advance. This POS planned the attack and there will be more coming unless the POS-in-Chief stands up like a man and does something about it.
Madalyn

Ah.Are you se... (Below threshold)
Brett:
Ah.

Are you seriously contending that the other 1,799,929,845 Muslims will eventually do the same as the frenzied Major?

I think not.

'Jihadist' would be a better fit, but I suppose it's more satisfying to stereotype 21% of the people on the planet.

So, DJ - it should be a simple matter for these 1.8 billion peace-loving individuals to root out the tiny handful of loons, and publicly decry their actions, should it not? And I am sure those same individuals will cooperate fully with all relevant security forces to ensure that such a unexpected event never ever happens again, right? And I am sure that native Farsi and Arabic speakers are lining up at CIA headquarters to volunteer to infiltrate international Jihadi groups so they can be monitored and undermined.

If 21% of the Earth's population don't want to be stereotyped as murdering lunatics, they probably ought to make some effort to rid themselves of murdering lunatics - instead of celebrating it, defending it as a function of their culture or having been driven to it by Western culture. And then complaining about the backlash and "unfair stereotyping"


This worthless pos...was wo... (Below threshold)
mag:

This worthless pos...was worried about frozen broccoli going to waste, but killing a number of people was okay.
All these red flags that we have been reading about...and nothing was done. They're more people responsible for this than just this guy. I blame them just as much and maybe even more.

And is this the stuff VP Biden was warning us about???

"instead of celebrating it,... (Below threshold)
914:

"instead of celebrating it, defending it as a function of their culture or having been driven to it by Western culture. And then complaining about the backlash and "unfair stereotyping"

Correct, just as the PC ( P iece a C rap ), libs on here do!


It seems to me that Majo... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

It seems to me that Major Hasan was unfairly singling out 89% of the people on the planet.

So by denigrating the other 21% by virtue of sharing the same faith as Hasan (loosely speaking), you're no better than a xenophobic eliminationist Islamist. How does that sit with you? What would Jesus think about that?

914: 1.5 billion innocent Muslims vs. several thousand that could be classified as terrorists. If the automobile insurance industry was run by people as tone deaf to statistics as you obviously are, it would cost a million dollars to get collision insurance for a Volvo.

mag/Madalyn/WiddleWanker/914/JL: life is too short to hyperventilate over tragedies such as this one. Drunk driving kills waaaaaaay more people than Muslim terrorists (or all terrorists combined!) in the United States. Cancer is a much bigger problem than religiously-motivated violence. You obviously don't care as much about anyone's personal safety as you do about justifying your own bigoted, back-asswards worldview. (JL, I expect better from you than from those other bed-wetting want-wits.)

Hyperbole, hyperbolist.... (Below threshold)
bobdog:

Hyperbole, hyperbolist.

If you're going to find fault, complain about my math, which on review ain't real good.

"It seems to me that Major ... (Below threshold)
914:

"It seems to me that Major Hasan was unfairly singling out 89% of the people on the planet.

So by denigrating the other 21% by virtue of sharing the same"

So? You must be among the 10% from outer space?

Or the 0.01% that were graded on an affirmative Hussein curve.

"Drunk driving kills waaaaaaay more people than Muslim terrorists (or all terrorists combined"

So by Your logic. " A terrorist act a day helps the medicine go down, medicine go down, Koran flush down.

"How does that sit with you? What would Jesus think about that"

Why dont You ask Him? He's God not Me.

Hyper:"Cancer i... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Hyper:

"Cancer is a much bigger problem than religiously-motivated violence. You obviously don't care as much about anyone's personal safety as you do about justifying your own bigoted, back-asswards worldview."

Ever looked up the definition of projection, Hyper? Are you so totally, completely convinced that YOUR worldview's the only possible correct one, that you can freely insult and denigrate everyone else's when they don't coincide with yours?

You know, I wish I could be that certain of my own worldview. I'm constantly testing and modifying it as needed - but a lot of the things that you seem to find so reprehensible, I'm not finding to be much of a problem.

So perhaps too much 'certainty' in a worldview is a problem. Obviously Hasan was so certain of his worldview that he had no problems in planning out the deaths of his fellow soldiers. That was seen as a good thing, his actions apparently being the most virtuious he could possibly imagine. His calling as a doctor, to save lives, to help others - was completely pushed aside in his fervor to follow his highest calling.

Equally obviously the 9/11 jihadis had no problems in killing everyone in the planes, and the buildings they hit - I'd say they were pretty certain of their worldview too. It does rather boil down to 'Kill them all, Allah will know his own."

And we don't need that. There's enough on the plate already, thank you kindly...

Now, you're arguing that terrorism isn't a threat, and it's only usable to foment hate and discontent against Muslims at large. Yet reading through this board, what I'm seeing is people blaming the PERPETRATORS of the terrorism almost exclusively - and making fun of those who would excuse the terrorists, which I think is completely appropriate.

Now, I for one am tired of being told I'm the bad guy because I'm thinking we should actually discriminate. When one out of 50 or so of a particular laptop model has a certain problem, and that problem is readily found across the entire population of that laptop, it's not an absurd stretch of the imagination to think that the problem is a systemic one.

It may or may not exist in the others as well - but the conditions haven't been right to activate it. Maybe a particular driver update is the problem, or an upgrade that was applied incorrectly. The thing to do is look for causes, and eliminate them. It's done in epidemology, and oncology, and pretty much every discipline that's covered by an 'ology' of one sort or another.

But ignoring a problem never solved it. You're advocating we just 'live with it', from what I see. Maybe I'm wrong on that - but I don't see there's any reason at all to just 'Live With It'.

"Going Postal?".....no. "Go... (Below threshold)
grizzlybare:

"Going Postal?".....no. "Going Pistol"...yes.
And the liberal newsers are scrambling to
have you come to the conclusion that it was
ANYTHING but terrorism....anything that shows
Obama policy weakness...anything that taints
Obama. Geez, I'm ready to puke. And all of the
reports that the MILITARY will try this case
are subject to the whims of ERIC HOLDER.
These bastards are going to change the rules
midgame. Just watch.

Also, Hyper - ran across th... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Also, Hyper - ran across this...

Instapundit » Blog Archive » VICTOR DAVIS HANSON on how things are going. And playing what if? --- UPDATE: Michael Nehring writes¦

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON on how things are going. And playing what if?

UPDATE: Michael Nehring writes on Facebook: What says more about America - that we always, ALWAYS manage to refrain from an anti-Muslim backlash, or that progressives are always, ALWAYS, convinced that one is on the way?
Good question, isn't it?

Oh, I'm sure that all of th... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

Oh, I'm sure that all of the shit-talking rednecks on the internet who are using the case of Major Hasan to support their bigoted worldview lack the testicular fortitude to actually do something about the Muslim menace in their midst (which just happens to be an infinitesimally smaller threat to their safety than alcohol and motor vehicles--but hey, keep ignoring that fact! A lot harder to demonize a case of Bud Light and an F-150 than a brown guy who speaks a language with too many dang consonant sounds in it). I know very well that apart from perhaps a few isolated incidents--maybe a shop getting a window smashed in, a student getting harassed, or a cab driver getting assaulted--the only harm that will be inflicted by the bedwetting anti-Muslim cowards is on their own psychological well-being.

As if WiddleWanker or mag would ever do something about the onslaught of the Great Islamic Horde apart from bitching about it on the internet! Intellectually lazy buffoons consumed with hatred for a visibly distinguishable 'other'. Seriously, JL, you're smarter than this. Quit jumping at shadows. Terrorism is way, waaaay down the list of things that Westerners should be worried about. Don't be a bed-wetting want-wit.

"Oh, I'm sure that all of t... (Below threshold)
914:

"Oh, I'm sure that all of the shit-talking rednecks on the internet who are using the case of Major Hasan to support their bigoted worldview lack the testicular fortitude to actually do something about the Muslim menace in their midst (which just happens to be an infinitesimally smaller threat to their safety than alcohol and motor vehicles"

Ok Im hooked... Whats the punch line?

"but hey, keep ignoring that fact! A lot harder to demonize a case of Bud Light and an F-150 than a brown guy who speaks a language with too many dang consonant sounds in it"

You Racist!!

As if WiddleWanker... (Below threshold)
Brett:
As if WiddleWanker or mag would ever do something about the onslaught of the Great Islamic Horde apart from bitching about it on the internet! Intellectually lazy buffoons consumed with hatred for a visibly distinguishable 'other'. Seriously, JL, you're smarter than this. Quit jumping at shadows. Terrorism is way, waaaay down the list of things that Westerners should be worried about.

Spoken like a twit hiding behind a keyboard. But, actually, you are right on one score - since Nov 2, 2008, Westerners have had an even bigger problem than declared jihadi terrorists. And in this case, we really can't blame anyone but ourselves.



Hyper -Man, I don'... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Hyper -

Man, I don't know what the hell's happened to you in the last month or so, but the constant insults didn't use to be your style. You used to be at least SOMEWHAT thoughtful, now you just seem to be randomly shitting insults on the board to get a reaction.

"Don't be a bed-wetting want-wit."

Good advice - how about you ceasing to be an insulting asshole with a rather odd fixation on soggy mattresses? If you want a dialog, stop slamming the door and then crowing proudly about how 'inclusive' you are.

Brett, you're more likely t... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

Brett, you're more likely to be killed by a drunk driver than a terrorist, regardless of how many wet dreams you have about starring in the real-life sequel to Red Dawn.

The 101st Fighting Keyboard Kommandos--so brave! So rugged! So funny.

JL: acknowledge that terrorism poses a small fraction of the threat that drunk driving or cancer do to your society, and then I'll start being polite. As it stands, though, you're scoffing in the face of concrete statistics, and making a mountain out of a molehill in such a way that is indistinguishable from the idiots that slither around these threads. My suggestion to you: stand tall, square-shouldered, and say "I'm not afraid of any ignorant, fascist terrorists, and I'm not going to let them win by changing the way I live my life." That's being a man about it.

Cancer only kills a small p... (Below threshold)
bobdog:

Cancer only kills a small percentage of people, everything else considered.

And you're worried about a piddling few random drunk driving deaths?

Pshaw, macho man. Show a little perspective.


Hyper -I've tried ... (Below threshold)
jLawson:

Hyper -

I've tried talking to you in other threads - which you seem to be ignoring - now you're demanding affirmation of your beliefs before you'll continue a conversation politely.

Sorry - I'll be glad to disagree and dialog with you, but you're not returning the courtesy. If I take the time to reply to you with my reasons, I expect something more than ridicule and cut&paste talking points and you telling me to 'man up'.

I'm done. Enjoy your wet mattress fetish.

bobdog, I'm honestly not su... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

bobdog, I'm honestly not sure if you're being sarcastic and agreeing with me. If so, well done. There were 13,000 fatalities due to DUI in 2007. That's more than the number of Americans killed by terrorists in the history of the United States, whether on American soil or abroad, including the military. And as for cancer, 'killing a small percentage of the population' is absolutely correct. Only about a half million Americans die per year from cancer, which is less than one-half of one percentage. As for the percentage of people killed by terrorists, that percentage can be rounded to zero.

JL, it's not my belief</... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

JL, it's not my belief that cancer and drunk driving are a lot more dangerous to the general population than terrorists. It's a fact that I'm expressing.

Do you dispute these facts?

If not, why should anyone be concerned about terrorists--Muslim or otherwise--when there are much more deadly phenomena currently plaguing your society? You could make an argument that drinking and driving fatalities are part of the American way of life, but you haven't made that argument. In fact, I don't know what argument you're trying to make--is it just "Statistics be damned!"?

Hyper -I addressed... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Hyper -

I addressed your arguement elsewhere. Maybe you can backtrack and find it, if you're not too busy coming up with other bogus reasons why we shouldn't do anything about folks who go off killing others while shouting Alluh Ackbar.

Okay JLawson, you go on and... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

Okay JLawson, you go on and worry yourself sick over the possibility of being murdered by a terrorist. Spend the few finite years you have on this planet consumed with ill-founded and irrational fear of a group of people who are much, much less likely than a drunk driver to kill you.

You are ignoring my point and pretending that you have one of your own. Sometimes fear is justified, and other times it's hysterical irrationality. If you're this worried about Islamic terrorists killing people on American soil, then the thought of cancer should leave you curled up in the fetal position under your bed gibbering like a baby.

Better living through armchair actuarial statistics, JL. Get on board with it. The world is a hell of a lot less scary when you appreciate all of its risks in proper perspective.

Hyper... your argument boil... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Hyper... your argument boils down to a matter of results.
The terrorists have not managed to kill as well as cancer... does that mean we should wait until they get better at killing to care about them?

Odds are you'll never be hit by lightning. Care to hold a steel rod in a parking lot during the next storm?

SCSI: I think that most wou... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

SCSI: I think that most would-be terrorists are really stupid and probably of greater danger to themselves than to anyone else; and I think that even if they were able to somehow carry off another attack on the scale of 9/11, then that would be really, really awful--and about four times as many people would die that same year because of drunk drivers.

I recognize that evil people wanting to kill you is not something to be ignored by people whose job it is to protect you, but for the vast majority of people in the Western world, what the hell is the point in worrying about it? The military is still fighting the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan; the FBI and other agencies continue to do pretty good work foiling their murderous plans... what more do you want? Fuck man, I'd say that law enforcement has been doing a pretty great job since 9/11 at limiting the number of people murdered by psychotic zealots. Going through life being scared of crazy people is a total waste of time because there has always been and will always be crazy people. Now, you can acknowledge that fact and either enjoy your life and not dwell on something that is well beyond your individual control, or you can blog wistfully about internment camps for Muslims and hole up in a bunker when a doctor from Pakistan moves into your neighbourhood.

Hyper -I've addres... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Hyper -

I've addressed your point elsewhere, as I said. Feel free to insult and belittle everyone you don't agree with - I'm sure it makes you feel very, um, something - not quite sure what, but it's obviously vital that you do so to maintain your self-image.

You simply aren't worth the time any more.

Hyper - you are not facing ... (Below threshold)
Madalyn:

Hyper - you are not facing facts. I stated facts. You can disagree with me all you want, but you also need to do some research. I am referring to the workplace murders, and just about EVERY ONE of them was planned in advance. So don't give me any crap. As I used to tell my ex-husband, if I wanted any crap out of you I would unscrew the top of your head and dip it out. So, hows that for an old broad standing up for herself?
Madalyn

Madalyn--touche!No... (Below threshold)
hyperbolist:

Madalyn--touche!

Now I assume that you were demanding the same thing of Ronald Reagan and either of the Georges Bush whenever a premeditated murder took place whilst they held the office of President?

No, of course you didn't do that! Why? Because you like to play politics with tragic acts of violence. What kind of person would do that, Madalyn? Would a Christian do that? Would a Christian use the murder of innocent people to try and make a political point? No, they wouldn't! Uh oh... you got some 'splaining to do!

Apart from your partisan perspective on premeditated murder--which suggests some serious issue on your part--the very notion that a President could somehow prevent singular acts of violence such as the Ft. Hood shooting is asinine. It's. Not. His. Job. He doesn't work in law enforcement. Do you have any understanding of your own government whatsoever?




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